Adhesion problems suck - I've been there!! I don't know what type of vinyl you were using for your masking but you can get low tack vinyls that will help. Also any time you're painting plastic you want to make sure you degrease it well as there's often release agents on the surface, and you can use plastic primer / adhesion promoter to help your paint stick. Just in case you have another bash in future!
Thanks! I just used a generic vinyl - definitely not promoter as a low tack vinyl. I sanded the plastic down lightly and used a basic cleaner but it wasn’t a specific degreaser. The paint has held up great since I painted this. It’s been hit and banged a couple times and holding well. But definitely will need to be more aware of the supplies and procedure if I get to do multiple colors where I need to use a vinyl for masking areas
Another awesome project vid. Oh and congratulations on 4k subscribers. Soon be 10ik lol. As I said I would drop a message about the meeting. I was there but had to leave after an allergic reaction. But one of the Sorba guys kept me in the loop. The downhill park is still working its way through the couple of issues but in the meantime the NCCC who is also involved in the downhill park is working with another developer to secure the flatter ground bellow where the downhill park will be. They have plans to put in several different things, Frisbee golf etc. But one thing they mentioned was a Mountain Bike Skills park would be added to a section of the land. So fingers crossed on that.
Gamedestroyers - nice! Thanks for the update! I was actually thinking about our conversation yesterday and wanted to track you down and see what happen. Hopefully the allergic reaction wasn’t too bad!! I’m happy to hear the downhill park is making progress and cool to hear about a potential skills park. They probably didn’t mention any timeline around the project did they?
@@MTBTrailRider Unfortunately they didn't give a time frame on the project. My hope is its a full on skills park that they build. Pump track, jump lines, north shore training. Would love to see something like that here.
Some questions - or - considerations. After sanding did you clean the surface? I find iso alcohol removes all grease from fingers and wiping with a cloth removes the residue from sanding. This will help with paint adhesion. Another thought, perhaps the initial base layer didn’t have time to dry or cure resulting in it binding to the next layer. Leave in the sun or a warm place for a few hours. Lastly, I’ve had better results from spraying the same brand paint when layering. I know some vinyls have different adhesives but if the initial coat layer isn’t dry or surface not clean then the paint was always descended to pull away. Just re painted my 2007 Enduro frame in a labour of love project. Great fun to personalise something and give it a new lease of life! Final helmet looked great 👍🏼
Nice. Yes i did clean with alcohol after sanding. And I definitely rushed the additional layers the first time. Thinking it was cured and it was not. Once I sanded down my mistake I reapplied and let the layers fully dry this time. The paint has remained the same since I painted it. No chips or fading or anything since...
ive never done the stencil thing..but it seems that would happen all the time. Spraying paint over the stickers and then trying to peel them off..just seems like its gonna all peel off..BUT i know it works as ive seen it done before.."scratches head" go figure..Still turned out ok..It will scratch up easily though but it will have that "worn out' look which is ok too..Nice project man..
Yea, if I let the base color cure longer and used a different sticker that wasn’t so sticky it would have been fine I think. Oh well... also, I did apply many coats of the clear coat which dries harder and will work as a protection to scratches and such. Obviously big hits or crashes will still cut it open. I like how it turned out.
@@MTBTrailRider hi great info, im thinking about doing this to my helmet in this quarantine. I only have one question, how much time did you let the paint rest between applying the different layers? Is it shorter or longer when you have to remove the stencils?
daniele teodorosi - so if you want to use stencils you’ll need to remove them before the paint fully dries or else the paint could pull up. It won’t be clean lines. Also, my mistake was not using stencil vinyl. My sticker vinyl was super sticky and pulled up paint underneath. So what I ended up doing was creating the color I liked then added stickers to the top.
I waited multiple days to let the color heal and dry fully before applying a different color. When I applied the clear coat I started with very light coats and waited almost 3 days to make sure the paint was dry underneath.
@@MTBTrailRider understood, thanks a lot! ETOE said that not using a polystyrene specific primer will make the paint not to stick well to the plastic and as a result the paintjob will peel off after a few months. Are you having his problem?
How has it held up? Can you clean mud off without scratching the paint? Are you being extra careful where you lay it down or are you treating it normally?
With the clear coat, its much more durable and i am less careful with it then if I just had the paint layer. Just do a lot of very light dustings when you apply the paint layers. The clear coat, I would add an extra coat or two over what I did. I am treating the helmet normally as if it wasnt painted though. I have one chip in the in paint on the forehead of the helmet but that was from an actual crash. It has not chipped more or gotten worse since the crash. No problem wiping off dirt or mud. Just take your time masking the helmet and priming the helmet. Making sure the paint heals/cures between coats and especially before applying the clear coat. I would wait a day or two before adding the clear coat.
Do you know what spray paint is safe to use for the shell? I'm also painting a proframe and i was wondering if just any spray paint will work or if you need a specific kind that won't damaged the shell
I used just basic spray paint from Home Depot. The plastic shell should be fine with any spray paint - however, it’s the foam that you need to be careful with. The aerosol is what eats at the foam and you will ruin your helmet and the integrity of it. That’s why I have the helmet masked. Again, the shell covering the foam is just a type of plastic and will be fine. I would get as high quality spray paint as you can / are willing to spend.
It's a vinyl sticker. I have someone local who can custom make me single color stickers. But there are multiple sites you can customize sticker orders. StickerMule.com I think might be one of those places you can check out/
I had a local friend of mine make the stickers for me. She has a website you can reach out to her through to make something for you. Prices are good and she can ship them too. www.katelyndennisdesigns.com/services/
Hamzza_K - clear coat spray paint. But if you watched the video, make sure you hold the can far away making your light initial coats. If you use spray paint too close to the helmet, the aerosol could eat the foam.
MTB Trail Rider yeah I know but my plans were to colour the helmet in fully without the use of any spray paint because I’m not good with stuff lien that
Message Katelyn about having one made for you. She’ll make it according the size and color you want and will ship directly to you. www.katelyndennisdesigns.com
The clear coat is used to protect the paint. If you bang it up, it scuffs you the clear coat vs the color. Depending on the brand of clear coat, sometimes they dry “harder” - again, to protect the color from scratching/peeling.
😂 because that is the name of my RU-vid channel. But I realized later, unless someone already knows that it might be weird. Haha probably should have put the RU-vid logo next to it or something.
Hahaha!! No worries... I realize how that can create some confusion. You made me realize I might need to get a RU-vid logo and maybe incorporate it into it next time or if I change up the colors. 😂
yea, it's a good option. Still need to be careful with the aerosol on the foam. Using an automotive paint is also a good option as it is usually a harder paint to help prevent chips.
