Cutting Smash Ultimate's Roster in Half...ish 

Everyone else on the internet: (simply cutting the roster by half) Delzethin: “And this… IS… TO GO… EVEN FURTHER *BEYOND!!!”*

Nintendo makes way too much money from Mii Fighter costumes to even consider cutting them

I was so convinced this was going to be an early April Fools video with the roster getting cut down to just Mario.

I was kinda expecting one more part where you cut everyone. Saying stuff like “not even being Nintendo’s mascot is safe from the cuts, we have to remove Mario”

I feel like if this was real, Captain Falcon would be cut instead of Peach. I think Nintendo would keep her because of Princess Peach Showtime

So, interesting little factoid: Sora's *NOT* actually an SE character! He's a Disney character, which makes him both more and less likely than other third parties to return in the next game.

This is an interesting experiment, and in a way end up working as a Tier List of how likely the characters are to return (says a lot about their franchises that Villager and Inkling managed to beat other iconic characters)

Thoughts, typed as I watch 1. I can see Ice Climber’s getting cut, but I don’t think they’re among the most likely cuts 2. I have a hard time seeing Falco get cut. He’s been a mainstay of the series since his introduction 3. I feel like Konami demonstrably does more with metal gear than it does with Castlevania 4. It’s weird to cite Incineroar’s wrestling moveset as the reason why he’d get cut when that was a large reason why he was chosen in the first place 5. Heretical as it it to say, I feel Sora being the winner of the Smash Ballot gives him a leg up over Cloud in an only one can stay scenario. 6. Cutting Megaman is fairly shocking 7. Cutting Bowser Jr. Over Rosalina is definitely not the choice I’d Make. Honestly I’d have Cut rosalina during the “Trimming major first parties” phase 8. Well ,at least Ike’s popularity is acknolwedged 9. I can’t see the Miis ever getting cut. They’re not only an entire feature ontop themselves, they’re a revenue stream too 10. I do appreciate that Later Gens of Pokemon are given a priority here 11. Keeping Yoshi in over Peach and Luigi doesn’t seem right. I feel like a realistic “Return to twelve” roster would cut Yoshi and Falcon to keep a Pikmin and Xenoblade rep

Ok, cuting Wolf and Falco were painful, but axing the whole Star Fox cast, tho expected, was still the biggest stab in the dark

After Round 1: Pichu Mains: “Stop, he’s already dead!”

This was a ride and I genuinely didnt expect the video to go the way that it did. Given you cut luigi, the spacies, the princesses, and practically every third party i was kinda expecting you to completely wipe out the roster and say that nobody was staying

“Ahh shit…here we go again…”

I stand by the idea that cutting Transform removed any reason for Sheik to exist in Smash. You'd be better off adding Impa as a more distinct and less generic Zelda ninja. Honestly, realizing how absurd this was going to be took a lot of the sting out of the cuts after the halfway point. I do think Yoshi was worth cutting to save someone else, though.

I think keeping Pikmin and Xenoblade in the game is more important than having Mario take up 1/3 of the final roster

I could see Snake surviving over Simon tbh, Konami are perfectly happy to profit on Metal Gear even now

I can understand Luigi being cut in favor of Bowser, I mean Luigi did kinda sort of evolve into his own character but if I had to choose between the two I gotta go with Bowser, Smash 64 didn’t even have a single playable villain.

2:47 Every time that people are STILL thinking Sora is a SE rep. While he is created by Nomura, he is 100% OWNED by Disney. You do realized that the Sora amiibo have the copyright of Disney on the bottom of the amiibo for example as well as Disney being credited in smash ultimate.

You stressing over every choice here is why I don’t really hold people accountable over these roster-cutting videos. Every character holds some weight as an inclusion, making their removal a difficult choice for some, and the easiest decision ever for others. It’s all about how you perceive the roster and value the characters, in the end. For example, Xenoblade as a franchise just seemed to get more and more mainstream with each new game, to the point where 3’s publicity arguably rivals the legacy of 1 and even 2. Since the story of that third game is based around the aftermath of merging both worlds of the preceding games, I thought it be appropriate if the next Smash game axed BOTH Shulk and Pyra/Mythra to make room for the main protagonists of 3, Noah and Mio, who each hail from those worlds. Yet, nearly every roster-cutting video I’ve seen makes a priority of keeping either Shulk or both him and the Aegis, because they value keeping 1 and 2’s main protagonists more than me. There’s never going to be a perfect agreement here, because no one sees the worth of every character in this roster in the exact same way.

Well, at least you didn't cut Yoshi.

I was half expecting by the end the fox only meme

Sora is 100% owned by Disney. They choose to let Tetsuya Nomura have his say on the design and direction of the character, though legally he doesn't own Sora. The only thing Square Enix owns in all of Kingdom Hearts is the Final Fantasy/The world ends with you characters.

Personally I’m fine with seeing characters cut, but I don’t believe that they would actually cut the roster in half. I could see them realistically cutting 1/4 to 3/8 of the roster (trimming the excess and severely dormant while also honoring legacy and recent popularity). Overall I enjoyed the experiment as it shows just how difficult it is to predict the roster (unless you’re a Nintendo employee).

R.O.B over G&W is silly. He's Nintendo's oldest character (In the roster at least) cutting him over a toy is silly.

There were only like 3 fighters that I completely disagree with being cut in their rounds which is impressive, considering the absolute insanity of this video lol. All three Mii's being cut probably wouldn't happen period (Mii Costumes are basically free money), but brawler should've lasted a bit longer regardless.

I would personally say Mr. Game and Watch has more staying potential that R.O.B. Mr. Game & Watch is representing a whole console, while R.O.B is just representing 2 games and a toy. A pretty influential, company saving toy, but come on: They still make Game & Watches. Mii Fighters aren't going anywhere. They make money with the costumes. Ivysaur, Squirtle and Toon Link would be gone in earlier phases in a realistic scenario. I mean, in the case of the former two, that's exactly what happened in Smash 4. You might say "It's 3 characters in 1 slot, so it doesn't count", but at the same time... you're developing 3 totally different characters just for one slot, and the most popular of them is Charizard anyway, so why would we need a weak water turtle and a lizard with a flower? They should go even before Incineroar, which is as popular, if not more, especially in competitive, than Greninja. K.Rool haven't gotten a game appearance since Mario Super Sluggers in 2008. Big villain and a fan favorite, but Diddy is the quintessential second player of the saga. It would also go away before Ridley does. Before F-Zero 99, i would have put Captain Falcon in the same league as Ness in terms of cuts, but technically he has a more recent game than the Star Fox Series. I'm Happy for him. Shulk would stay on the final roster, and Ganondorf went out too soon. Overall, this was an entertaining video, and also a painful watch for my feelings. But it's always hard to cut characters knowing we had everyone, and it's hard knowing that it has to be done.

Okay so am I the only one questioning why Isabelle took so long to cut? She's so close to Villager's moveset, and cutting so many other unique, popular, and iconic characters before axing Isabelle just seems completely ridiculous. Even if she's fairly beloved and the games are very popular, she really should've been cut in the same section as Falco, especially when Villager is the better representative for Animal Crossing.

I can’t believe he prioritized Captain Falcon over Fox, Olimar, or Shulk 😭

Love seeing fans lose their minds over his choices

I think this would not be the best way to go with the next smash, I think what we should have as the next "Everyone is HERE!" is "Everyone is NEW!" A smash where all the characters are new, or are changed with completely remade moveset (TOTK link, actual DK and not just a gorilla, actual Ness&Lucas and not just random spells, and all the characters you remade in Remake It) This way, we keep the most important characters, and people can't complain that they don't see their favorite characters, and realise that they just had nothing left to bring, they were stuck in a state without being able to evolve, and that they had to be cut in favor of a newer fighter Since Switch 2 will be retrocompatible, we could still play Ultimate and have access to two radically different experiences, but equally as good as the other

To be frank, I’m don’t think they’ll cut the roster in half given Smash’s history of asset reuse. At worst, I’m expecting 50 characters (counting newcomers) in the next Smash game’s base roster. But I’d imagine that it’ll be somewhere in the 60s on Day 1. Likewise, I’m not entirely sure we should count Sora as Square Enix when he’s wholly Disney-owned. And I feel like you could swap Captain Falcon for Shulk in the New 12.

Half way through the video im very convinced this is an elaborate April Fool's bit. Good show.

In my mind, no way Smash 6 launches with a roster slightly smaller than Sm4sh's or lower unless they come up with a _massive_ new gimmick, else I'm not sure how they'd be able to get people excited for it

… do people still think Sora is a Square-Enix character? 2:47

I'm more biased towards Byleth but I would honestly think he'd get cut first over Robin.

This felt like Yoda sensing Order 66.

Hero might stick around if Smash 6 is timed well to promote Dragon Quest 12. Also to honour Toriyama in a sense.

As long as i have R.O.B. in the next game, i will be happy

I like how this was an experiment with different phases. Given that and the points made, it makes it easier to envision what a trimmed down roster would look like for certain ideas of a reboot. Easier for me than it used to be at least =P

I think cutting yoshi to keep peach and falcon to keep fox would have been better plays tbh

I love Pyra and Mythra, but there's a good chance they're going to make room for Noah or Mio.

4:07 Technically, the second game did officially release after Zero, so it’s at least not the last new game. But again, it’s hard to keep characters from a barely used franchise. Especially if there’s multiple.

I stuck it out until 17:39 before audibly screaming "ENOUGH!!!" Delzethin, this experiment has gone too far! Cutting the roster back down to 12 fighters!? THIS IS MADNESS!!!

I didn’t critique much beyond the 36 point, as that’s the size of my reboot roster at the moment. Only thing up until then I would swap personally would be Game and Watch and ROB, as I think the former both stands out wildly from the rest of the cast and is the best “retro” pick in my opinion, being among Nintendo”s oldest. Otherwise I agreed with everything across the board (aside from the 3rd party purge, but after a point it would certainly become necessary with a small enough roster.) As for the final 12, I think it’s definitely solid. Though I’d easily take Isabelle over Villager as she is the face of the franchise and represents it better in my opinion. Also, I think Yoshi would get the axe - the greater Mario universe already has Mario, Bowser, and DK, and Yoshi just isn’t a very interesting inclusion in Smash as is (I think the series could be represented just fine through a stage in this case). Instead I’d probably go with Shulk, Fox, or G&W depending on what they’d want to focus on, leaning towards Shulk. But yeah a really fun and well made video overall, most of your takes and rationale were pretty spot on. I think the topic of roster cuts upsets a lot of people, but it’s something everyone will have to come to deal with sooner or later, and you did a good job at digging into the logic behind these potential cuts.

I actually think Hero would be the easiest SE related character to bring back. DQ's relationship with Nintendo is stronger than that of Final Fantasy or Kingdom Hearts (which is actually owned by Disney, I believe). Nintendo straight up publishes a lot of DQ games themselves, and are solely responsible for some of them even making it to the west, so they definitely seem to like the franchise. On top of that, You really only need one guy to agree to their inclusion (Yuji Horii), and the rest will fall into place. SE doesn't actually even own the Dragon Quest IP, Yuji Horii (Armor Project) does. He seemed to be very happy with how the Heroes turned out in Smash, and would very likely agree to their return without much hassle. On top of that, DQ's inclusion in Smash only helps the series in terms of exposure in the west, which gives them an actual incentive to want them in. The way I see it, the only way Hero doesn't return is if Nintendo doesn't ask for it. I feel like they would though, and I don't see Yuji Horii saying no to their request.

Dropping the Ballot winners is so unrealistic given how much ultimate was built based on the ballot

I think game and watch has enough smash legacy, uniqueness, and importance to gaming and Nintendo to easily stay all the way to the end, especially over rob.

I was here at the beginning of relax Alex channel and I'm here at the beginning of this one. Phenomenal job as always!

Your videos are always really polished and aesthetically pleasing, good job with that

My only changes to the final roster would be cut Falcon and Yoshi, keep Olimar and Greninja.

You have a lot of guts to make this. I wouldn't dare do so much cutting for the roster due to bias.

This video was...an interesting ride from start to finish. Luigi getting the boot over Bowser and Captain Falcon sticking around completely were the biggest eyebrow raisers. Not sure if Delzethin will find and respond to this comment but when is the next Smash design tier list featuring the Brawl newcomers?

At some point, I was thinking you would just eliminate everyone and say, "Smash is canceled. April Fools everyone." And I'm actually surprised Yoshi made it all the way through to the final 12. In a few Ultimate roster cuts I've seen (my own included), Yoshi is one of the most frequent of the original 12 to get the axe.

I dare you to make a Part 2 where you experiment with how many newcomers would be added and who they would be. After most of the big name first-party cuts you made, I think it would be a hilarious sequel.

For an extremely tiny and minimalistic roster, this is solid. I’d cut Captain Falcon to make room for a more relevant franchise, though.

Honestly, K Rool should've been out before Diddy. Fan support is literally all K Rool has unlike Diddy, who has now been in 3 Smash games, is basically the Luigi of the DKC Universe, and even had a grand return in Mario Kart 8's recent DLC, along with having been in many others. Too many people pick K Rool over Diddy simply because of "fan demand" or "being cooler" but that really shouldn't matter when looking at was is most iconic abroad to a much more generalized audience.

Yeah, the Mii Fighters are here to stay. Having Nintendo's most iconic avatar creator leaving just isn't happening

What’s with people wanting to cut Diddy from their theoretical roster cuts if it just means hurting DK from ever getting any newcomers since there’s a rule on the DK characters and it means no Dixie & Funky if Diddy isn’t brought back

I don’t think ZSS/Sheik would be cut because of “lack of relevance”. Virtually everyone has a unique moveset/play style, but ZSS/Sheik actually get used a lot, compared to say Duck Hunt or Ice Climbers.

Personally, I want them to cut a LOT of characters for the next Smash. Create a game with a huge number of newcomers, as a game that can stand alongside Ultimate, instead of replacing it. That, and overhauling the system in some way. That's should make it stand out even more.

Its like the infinity war snap all over again.

One idea I've had on the topic of Smash roster cuts is taking 2 or 3 characters and putting them into one moveset, either by series or thematic elements. My favorite I've come up with is putting ROB, Duck Hunt, and Game & Watch into one character; a "Re-trio" if you will. ROB would be the main body and character you control, the dog (and maybe duck) would ride on his base or head depending on what's happening, and G&W would pop out from behind ROB to perform certain actions when needed in a hammer space-like way reflective of his 2D nature.

How the heck did Yoshi survived?! The last game he got was Crafted World which was far from being the best in the series and the last time we saw Yoshi in full flesh for a game of his own was in 2014 with Yoshi’s New Island.

While I saw this coming down to 12 I have to say I can't see Captain falcon making it over olimar

Honestly, really well-thought out, I think you did a pretty good job, taking everything into consideration! Up to the point where you actually had 50% of the roster (after round 7), the only one I'd disagree with is Mega Man (if only because I feel like Capcom could get away with having 2 characters more than any other third-party companies could), where I'd probably choose either Villager or Isabelle instead (since they're semi-clones). Mii Fighters might also be a hard call... perhaps they could swap with either Pokemon Trainer, or Pyra/Mythra plus Rosalina? Going past round 8-9 is an absolutely wild ride, though.

He removed Olimar saying that the newest Pikmin game isn't enough for it to stay relevant BUT he decided to keep Captain Falcon for the 12, just because of the new online game which will clearly be taken down in due time...

Other than Cap being swapped with Shulk, I can totally see the final roster being the start of a new age.

I'd say keeping Bowser over Luigi is the right call because that way this overly reduced roster at least gets to keep 2 super heavies, and so we still have at least one villain in the roster And if they gotta keep one AC character, they probably would keep Isabelle over Villager, because she's very much the face of Animal Crossing now

I'm hoping Daisy is reworked for the next Smash game. Give her abilities akin to abilities from Mario Bros. Wonder.

If you ever want to make a part 2, I think taking inspiration from Thorgi's Arcade and replacing half the roster would be neat

I was surprised to see Isabelle and Falcon last so long, Animal crossing may have been huge but for what I remember its playerbase wasn't really that hyped about Isabelle in smash and her moveset always feels like a semiclone on villager

I think my only issue (biased as it may be) is cutting Ridley before K.Rool. I’d argue the fan demand for Ridley was a little bigger, he’s more important to his home series than K.Rool, and Metroid in general is just more active than the DK series right now (at least in terms of releasing games, DK does admittedly have the theme park and Mario movie stuff) Aside from that I have no issues! Really appreciate the harsh decision making, and not allowing Smash seniority cloud your judgment. Too many people hold that in too high of regard imo.

I see Steve as an easier cut, obviously not because of popularity or because nobody plays him, but because of the pain that is including his presence in terms of coding and game design, I don't think any Smash devs wants to reprogram and bug these every single stage just because of a single character, even if he has the best selling game ever.

I really like this approach of you following the trend of slimming down Special's roster to around half-ish! And I like how at the end the remaining roster ended up being the same as the original Smash 64's roster with 12! 😆 Hell, ALL of X's veteran's were cut! It's also pretty damn funny that both Villager, and Inkling ended up being the first newcomers from both of their debut Smash titles! What a coincidence! I do love however that you actually made the roster lineup more closely to how they made their actual debut appearances in Smash, including the Dash Fighters! (although, I still don't get why the Mii Fighters weren't in between Gekkouga, and Palutena)! Honestly, I think it'd be downright hilarious if there was a Round 12 where you would be like "You know what, just for the hell of it.", and removed the last dozen characters (Inkling, Villager, Marth, Bowser, Captain Falcon, Pikachu, Kirby, Yoshi, Donkey Kong, Samus Aran, Link, Mario, and Kirby), the title would literally be called either "Everyone is not Here!", or "No One Is Here!", just to be even more of a tease! 🤣 In all seriousness though, I think overall, your cut Special roster is pretty realistic! Now, here's my half-ish roster, and like with every cut Smash roster attempt on the Internet, please take this one with a HEAVY grain of salt: Mario, Donkey Kong, Link, Samus Aran, Yoshi, Kirby, Pikachu (Male & Female), Luigi, Captain Falcon, Peach, Bowser, Zelda, Marth, Ganondorf, Mewtwo, Mr. Game & Watch, Meta Knight, Wario, Ike, Pokemon Trainer (Male & Female, along with maybe 3 new Mon from each generation, and not just Gen 1), Diddy Kong, Great King Dedede, Pikmin & Olimar (maybe cut off Alph for the silent Pikmin 4 avatar protagonist as Olimar's character swap instead, or just have Olimar by himself again so he gets more variants for his own), Lucario, Villager (Male & Female), Rosetta & Chiko, Gekkouga, Mii Fighters (Brawler, Fencer, and Gunner), Reflet (Male & Female), Shulk, Bowser Jr. (not sure whether, or not the Koopalings would stick around again as characters swaps like Alph), Kamui (Male & Female), Inkling (Girl & Boy), Daisy, Ridley, King K.Rool, Shizue, Byleth (Male & Female), and Homura/Hikari. I'm sure keeping a few third-party reps wouldn't be impossible, but I only cut out all 18 just to make it easier for Sakurai, and his team to make the next Smash installment--whenever it's ready--so they don't feel too pressured, and I would like to keep the rest of the Fire Emblem cast, but, we gotta some sacrifices somewhere, and maybe they could return as a free update, or something! (Still do not get why Pichu never ended up as a Dash Fighter, yet Daisy somehow did.) Hopefully, Special can get a second chance whether a port on Switch 2, or otherwise to fix many of its issues, and beyond so it can truly be special, and not just the roster before truly moving on to Smash 6/7! Hopefully, the next Smash Design Tier List video which will focus on all the X newcomers is coming soon as it's been nearly a year since the Deluxe Tier List video! Another solid video, Delzethin! 👍 Congrats on reaching 29000 Subscribers too! 👏 Almost there to 30000 as well, keep it up! 👌

Thank you for shouting out Hyrule Warriors Sheik.

I have no idea where people even got the "half" idea. We don't need to go crazy with this. I think cutting anywhere between a quarter and half the roster and replacing that with a few popular picks (Bandana Dee, Waluigi, a new Sonic character, Geno, Shantae, Rayman, Crash, etc.) is more than enough. And I don't think Echos should count as full slots. That doesn't make any sense, development-wise. At most they should could as a fifth of a slot, or five Echo Fighters equating to one slot in terms of dev time.

Joker is not getting cut, since the launch of Persona on all platforms and Persona 3 Reload it has become unimaginablely popular.

Nah even as an April fools joke you can’t justify Captain falcon with F-zero 99 after cutting olimar despite having Pikmin 4

Would it be alright to see you react to a google doc idea for a character for smash concept?

at the 50% point I feel... mixed my main R.O.B. stayed (seriously, check out his history, there is a reason he's in Smash) but the Mii Fighters are gone, and with their costumes, they are some of the most fun characters

Characters with consistent releases of full fledge game entries, No. Character of a long dormant franchise with a spin-off game exclusively for an online service, Yes.

And I thought I was ready for the inevitable roster cuts...

i think people underestimate Snake's odds to be honest. he could end up going, but i feel like there's points in his favor that are often overlooked. for starters, the ballot was brought up on segments like Sora, Banjo-Kazooie, & Bayonetta, and it's definitely a valid reason for those characters to stick around. however, it seems like a lot of people also forget Snake did very well on the ballot. he was singled out when Sakurai brought up the fact veterans did very well on the ballot (apparently some managed to outplace Bayonetta, the character they claimed was the winner, Snake most definitely being one of them considering he was specifically mentioned.) also, we don't know for sure if usage data is something they consider when deciding the roster, but I think it's something to think about. feels like a lot of people forget these rosters are for video games that people play and not pretty images for you to stare at, so they only look at characters for what they represent. IF usage ends up a factor in how they decide to trim the roster, as much as i love Simon Belmont, appreciate the fact he made it past the halfway mark, and was playing Richter in an online bracket as I saw this video drop, Snake is one of the most commonly played characters in tournament while finding a dedicated Belmont player these days is very rare. we'll never know for sure what the exact online usage data looks like (thanks for keeping Cloud over halfway) and how skewed it is by including people merely playing casually online, BUT i wouldn't be too surprised if the Belmonts were still the least played guest character period. i don't know, maybe we will see a timeline where Castlevania beats out Metal Gear? it is also a cited ballot winner, has stronger Nintendo association, and some people definitely underestimate how lenient Konami is with Castlevania considering it's snuck into some quite random indie games recently. And there for sure isn't space for both in a slashed-in-half roster, one of them had to go in this scenario and I'm happy the other one survived, but I see Metal Gear axed so easily in so many other cut discussions just because it's such an out there third party and I don't think enough people realize just how popular Snake is.

Nice, I'm still thinking the next game is gonna be an equivalent to Mario Kart-8 Deluxe for Smash Ultimate. Either a new port (or even an update since the Switch-2 is heavily speculated to be backwards compatibility) so I dont think there will be cuts just yet

Good video as always but why are all your videos in max 720p ?

I do think Xenoblade has become enough of a big deal for Nintendo (it’s their big headliner JRPG) that even in a “only 12 can stay” scenario it’s a mandatory include, whether that’s Shulk or the XC3 protag(s). They’re definitely not keeping Falcon over a Xenoblade rep.

Imagine a Mii Fighter but with a Wii Sports Moveset😂😂😂

Honestly I definitely get a lot of the arguments made, the one thing sticking out to me is prioritising Captain Falcon over the likes of Shulk or Olimar and Alph lmao.

While watching, I wanted to give my own try at this. I ignored the 3rd Party removal personally, and had to get a bit creative for some picks with the assumption that there'd be potential newcomers to replace some cut picks as my main focus was trying to keep certain unique movesets in with maybe a dash of my own bias (entirely different from this video, I know, but I still wanted to see what I could think of lol) You'll notice weird picks for replacements (Like Dedede is mentioned there), but that's because I started this list just before we began shaving it down to 12 left as I had assumed that's where we were going lol. __________________________________________ Mario > Ideally with a rework that updates him DK > Again, hopefully with a rework to update him Link > In my best case scenario, Link get's an updated moveset and toon or young link keep his old one. either way, Link stays Samus > Nothing really to add here Yoshi > Cut & Replace with Cloud (Going down a list here of the last fighters in the vid and how my picks change them) Kirby > Good boi Pika > A new Pkmn Trainer so that Pika, Greninja, & Mewtwo all stay as one fighter now. That, or just straight up Pkmn Trainer but I'd rather not cut Pikachu since they're kinda the mascot. Luigi > Good boi C. Falcon > Cut & replaced with Sonic (This one hurt to pick lol) Bowser Dedede > Cut & replaced with Monster Hunter (It's Byleth, but shh) Villager > Swap with Isabelle __________________________________________ 12 more I'd personally additionally like to keep in if we didn't limit ourselves to 12. This where my heavy bias starts kicking in Doc Mario > Has old Mario moveset Toon/Young Link > Hove them be alternating outfits with the old Link Moveset C. Falcon > Is a good boi Shulk > I like Xenoblade Pyra/Mythra > I really like Xenoblade ok? lol Pit > I like Pit, plus Dark Pit could be an alternate costume at least Hero > Gambling man is my main. Plus I'd want to honor Akira Toriyama's legacy some sort of way if I were doing the roster. Ridley > Solid villain pick K. Rool > Another solid villain pick Ganondorf > The last good villain pick. But please for the love of all things unholy and evil for this man, give this dark king a unique moveset Game & Watch > I like his side special Marth > I mean, it's Smash, How else we gonna complain about Fire Emblem? lol But really, an FE Rep can't hurt here. Maybe have some of the others be outfits for him like Roy __________________________________________ All in all, I'd really just rather not cut anyone, but if I were to make such a decision, I think this is how it'd go for me. (It's pretty crappy I know lol but it's my picks at the end of the day)

11:18. Game & Watch as a series is Nintendo's 9th best selling..... It's larger than Splatoon, Metroid, Fire Emblem, and Pikmin. Ain't no way ROB is making it farther than Game & Watch.

Convincing myself this was just uploaded two days early

I feel a good diversity in movesets and ips could be good for a new reboot. Like 2 from different games at max plus dlc.

Not only my main Greninja got cut but my secondary main Corrin as well? That was rough buddy. But somewhere in me I believe this is an early April Fools Video.

Del, why the heck did you Thanos the roster 10 times in a row? One was enough! D: In all seriousness, the video got crazier as Round 7 concluded.

I went through the video kinda getting it. Sure, getting rid of big names hurt, but they make sense when getting down to it. Then came keeping Yoshi, Inkling, and Villager over Luigi or Dedede. You wound me Delzethin, you wound me so

Mario hasn’t been relevant since Odyssey all the way back in 2017, 7 years ago… he’s getting cut!

Up until you presented the "final roster" (and even a bit afterwards) I was half expecting the upload date on my screen to have been a few days off and the whole thing to be an April Fool's video that just cuts every single fighter one by one.

Big oof. If this was all the cuts for the next smash game I would be extremely disappointed. Those newcomers better be amazing to make up for what the roster was before in smash ultimate. Edit: Actually who am I kidding their probably ain’t many newcomers that could make up for so many lost characters.

Wow, a truly brutal but thought experiment. Whatever the future for Smash holds, cuts are likely inevitable. So up until about the halfway point, I find those choices very unsurprising.

When making these roster cut vids, people tend to focus on franchise "slots" or recency and completely overlook playstyle (Sakurai's 1st priority) or market appeal to Smash newcomers/non-Nintendo fans (Nintendo's prevailing priority). While safe choices, this roster leaves something to be desired on both fronts; I bet they'll be at least 1 or 2 third party picks. Miis are a revenue generator through costumes and other little add-ons. So unless there's a replacement business model, i don't see Nintendo cutting them for now. Also, each entry's final roster size seems arbitrary: 12, 26, 39, 58, 89. Sidenote: while I personally dislike build-your-avatar characters in games, I like how SF6 handled it in their single player mode: World Tour. A similar mode where your Mii is a stand-in for whatever new mechanics or tutorials taught by the allstar cast--- seems fitting for a series reboot.

As a Young link main for life....I feel threatened 😅