Cutting the Fat: X-Men Teaches Us That Jokes Are Evil! (Dialogue Writing for Beginners) 

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" In writing my own comic I’ve learned, that 1) dialogue (All dialogue) needs to be stripped to the bare minimum and flow with the page" I've never written a comic and I learned that by looking at the failure that was CTRL+ALT+DEL by Tim "wordswordswords" B^Uckley.

"As a rule, don't listen to people who say things like 'the betterment of mankind'. They're, on average, huge assholes." ~Dr. Giuseppe Malocchio

@@Saavryn Mass graves are the lynchpin of "greater goods". Every one of them was the result of someone else's greater good.

Exactly im certain that the same writer that wrote that shit was up until recently supporting how "unvaccinated conspiracy theorists shouldn't be allowed in public spaces for the greater good"

@@OK-yy6qz Most of them said put the jab free into camps as I recall.

@@OK-yy6qz Nothing wrong with that lol you pose a health risk to the community at large if you’re not vaccinated and refuse to wear a mask, sorry bro, but everyone of us was vaccinated for polio and mumps as children as a requirement to go to school so why shouldn’t people be required to receive vaccines for an ongoing pandemic if they want to go into restaurants and shops

Hilarious how these people keep denouncing the past, but comedy was never as prosecuted in nearly the whole past century as it is nowadays.

Well, most SJW types would fall on the side of the dictators, so it is no surprise that they hate humor as well.

@@The_Real_Fomsie imagine extinction rebellion’s reaction finding out the game Destroy All Humans was not a environmentalist game.

Literally 1984

@@nelisezpasce A lot of them really do seem to be striving for that as an ideal, and not a warning.

Yep. The writer put in an entire floor routine, uneven bars, and balance beam all on one page.

It's one hundred percent projection. They want to ascribe this resolute end of thought crime to anyone who takes the piss out of them. It's to protect themselves before hand knowing full well that those they look up to, a.k.a. communists, have actually committed those crimes while suppressing thought crimes themselves, and they know damn well that they would do it to ideological opponents themselves if they had the power. They're just trying to cash in to the bank early so they can do the prep work for future accusations. Their claims are more and more ridiculous every day.

The unintentional visual metaphor of such an unhinged minutes-long rant literally meandering like a twisty river just to fit on the page is pure gold.

They aren’t jokes, cause jokes have meaning.

@@LegacyComics100 The joke is that they think they have meaning when they don't.

They don't talk with other human beings. When they're forced to interact with others they opt for their Disney tween sitcom persona which is a combination of snarky, self absorption, and condensation all played out on a script they wrote in their heads. Holding a dialogue is impossible when all they do is talk "to" or "at" people let alone their habit of talking down to people.

@@bakedturkeys2132 Did you mean "condensation", or "condescension"? Fits these writers either way, merely curious.

Didn’t know Hayao Miyazaki was on RU-vid

@@insulttothehumanrace3807 didn't catch the typo, thanks. Also I didn't think of that but yes condensation also works to describe their performative monologue aptly.

@@bakedturkeys2132 Exactly what I was about to say, what those people do with other people, cannot be called an 'interaction' or 'conversation', because both require some level of paying attention to the other party, and they're incapable of that, they always want to talk, to spread their own essence Always OUTPUT OUTPUT OUTPUT, ME ME ME And never any input

"Jokes are necessary. Comedy is crucial to society. When the Jester is killed, *the* *world* *knows* *the* *King* *to* *be* *a* *tyrant.* " Are you sure you know what your wrote?

I wonder if it's necessary. I know it's not crucial to basic society, since animals work perfectly without it. Maybe it is to ours, but I doubt it. And no, I'm not defending the cancer that is woke culture, just wondering about the validity of what you said.

@@LyaksandraB you must be incredibly naive, or incredibly dense to think comedy isn't necessary to society. all social animals engage in some degree of playfulness and rely on it to form bonds with their peers and learn how they are supposed to act. jokes go a step further by elegantly expressing an underlining truth of something in a way that can be appreciated and digested by others, including those who might be considered the butt of the joke, if it is delivered well. the effects comedy has on communication, philosophy, and child development, nevermind entertainment and mental stability, make it very clear that comedy is necessary for a society as complex as ours to function at all. it is a very negative image when someone tries to criminalize comedy, which is why anyone who does is considered a petty tyrant.

That is a beautiful line.

@@LyaksandraB I would argue that, while comedy is not crucial to society, it is an inherent part of human nature. We use laughter to forget our problems, process those problems, or in the very least, as a shield to prevent emotional damage. Jokes are the white blood cells of the mind. Without them, there would be many illnesses.

It's the perfect microcosm of everything wrong with modern Western writing: the mainstream isn't interested in making a good story, they're obsessed with spewing lectures and treating the audience like they're stupid.

The *North American* comic is a corporate zombie. Look at the french bande dessinées and even latin american comics.

@@davidfrancisco3502 North American _AAA_ comics are putrid shells of what they once were, yes, but our indie scene is still going strong, as LD himself has demonstrated with his own published works

@@davidfrancisco3502 What Latin American Comics?

Not entirely a bad thing for a first or second draft. Proofreading or having someone as an editor to help you identify and remove unnecessary lines is part of writing a good story.

The difference is that you are aiming to get better in writing, while those writers think they are hot sh*t and inspirational, because they believe they are on the "good" side

Hey, we're in the same boat my guy; so long as we keep trying to get better we won't be like these professionals

Yeah making simple sentences is hard without first going on a bigass ramble for me. Words are hard, guys.

Well, to be fair, just because something can be summed up easily doesn't mean that it should be summed up so. Hell, you could summarize many great works of writing in a few sentences, but I think we can all agree that such a summary would lose all value said work held. What really matters is what you're doing with that lengthy piece; You could have a single character monologuing (maybe even to themselves) to show the reader their way of thinking and give that character some depth. You could have a lengthy dialogue between two characters to stress that their disagreement isn't hostile in nature but it's also deep-seated and they are unlikely to ever agree. Again, to stress, having lengthy blocks of text is perfectly fine, so long as you're using them for a goal. This, much like many other pieces of advice from LD has caveats. To summarize - I disagree, and for valid reasons.

They gain the ability to feel improved over their ancestors.

Destroy the past to remake the future.

@@Idazmi7 Ah, right. Can't have people thinking their ancestors were people now, can we?

@@benjaminrogers8875 I suppose so.

Traditional fatherhood is caregiving. One look at the common fatherless adult would tell you that dads are a lot more important in child development than you'd think. They're not just wagecucks that put money into the household.

The boredom transcended the boundaries of reality and he saw everyone in- and out-of-universe just zone out to him. Even the Watcher has only a vague memory that anything in this moment of time ever existed.

Eh, that site's jokes boil down to, "isn't it crazy that gay people get upset at being demonized" and "woke leftists are mad at cop for not seeing color, only crime". Honestly it feels more mean spirited then simple satire at times. I get it "isn't for me", but it still feels hateful sometimes.

@@bestaround3323 This was before the fiasco with the "man of the year" post on twitter (which was I think was retalitory or out of desperation for some form of satire). Before that, it was all satire about politics... things that we would have thought to be crazy in 2019.

@@genxrants Fair, I still prefer the onion.

@@bestaround3323 oh like the onion is any better.

@@charlesraccoonington9280 The answer is clearly yes.

A X-lecture by a X-Man to an X-Audience

X-people you bigot 😝

“We should change the name to X-Women, since we do more around here than the boys.” -Cringe someone wrote.

And, of course, the parody of this in One Punch Man, where Saitama gets noticeably bored and irritated until he just yells for Genos to get to the point. I know that's more of a parody of lengthy and unnecessary backstories than speeches like this, but the sentiment still fits.

I've seen SAT short stories that are more engaging than this comic. My senior high thesis partner can make a less amateurish prose.

Well it would defeat the purpose of the speech. If it ended in a joke.

Well it's a non-indie publisher comic... So it probably is a politics obsessed weirdo.

Wall of text! Wall of text!

wall of text that can be summarized into "joke lead to nazism" yeah, it checks out

Definitely, the best animators use less keyframes and in-betweens to convey movement, it's all about efficiency.

They should emphasize the *STUPID* part. I can't find a publisher but these morons get hired?! The worst part is nobody said anything.

Listen, I like dead baby jokes as much as the next guy, but that doesn't mean I want to paint my garage with them.

I mean the whole point of satire is to make a point without drawing blood. Jokes can serve as criticism, and criticism doesn’t really work if it’s not true.

@@howzittoyah I'd argue there's quite a big difference between a genuine satirical performance vs tweeting something like "kill all white men" then claiming it's a joke when people rightfully point out you sound unhinged.

They don't even know they have arrogance and hatred. And hypocrisy and double standards and bullying and evil and douchebagery and abuse and... you get the idea. "A doctrine insulates the devout not only against the realities around them but also against their own selves. The fanatical believer is not conscious of his envy, malice, pettiness and dishonesty. There is a wall of words between his consciousness and his real self." Eric Hoffer

"It's different when we do it." Is the caveat they invoke.

I'm starting to these these writers are more like villains that want to justify committing atrocities against innocent people.

Just one gripe, the formative years, when you create your "personality" and become "yourself", actually end at about 8 years old. The rest of changes and adjustments only happen on top of that foundation you built as a child. The words in quotations are merely written like that because those things aren't what most people assume.

@@LyaksandraB you know what, fair. I was meaning to say something along the lines of "The years when I started to figure myself out and how I handled myself around other people." but hey.

If there are two sides, whichever gets more offended by jokes is the more authoritarian, remember that

Jokes usually contain an element of truth, which is why they’re funny. Life isn’t about being comfortable but about facing truths-even if they’re difficult truths. Difficulties in life really aren’t the end of the world. Bad times come and bad times go. I think for many people, they don’t understand emotionally that no matter what hard times will occur in everyone’s life. But, those really dark times don’t last forever. And in many cases you can actively work to make it better. I think that might be why as you get older you start to realize that jokes aren’t evil. Because telling the truth-even if the truth is difficult-is not evil. Actually, the opposite-lying-is generally a corrupt thing to do.

And I say this as someone who was born with a disability. If that helps you understand. I’ve known ever since I was born that there’s struggles in life. But, even someone like me has realized that having struggles isn’t the end of the world. Eventually you get to a point where you realize this. Where you go, you know what, I’m never going to be able to do this or that-but it’s okay. I’m content with what I have. Plus you also realize that most people don’t really care-basically as long as you’re nice, most people are nice back. Essentially most people don’t mind as much as we think they do. I have hand tremors and I used to try to hide my hands. I’d put my hands in my pockets, wear long sleeves, etc. But, eventually you realize too that others don’t really pay that much attention or mind. Basically you get to a point where you meet someone who has a different condition and if you think about how you thought about that person then you realize you didn’t pay much attention. And then you realize most people too think the same way. Anyways, eventually you accept life and you are at peace. And when you get to that point-where you face the truth and are at peace with it, then when someone points out this truth you just acknowledge it and it doesn’t bother you.

You just ended an entire race of people by making that joke, actually.

Explains why they hate comedians.

Bring back mustache man from the dead

Well last I checked in DC there was a killing joke apparently

@@ulaznar I still see him, he change his profile pic

I think the problem the writer runs into is any discussion into this monologue would make it clear this is a massive slippery slope fallacy and the correlation between a joke at the expense of terrible parents is not a call for eugenics nor is it likely to lead to eugenics.

@@jaystrickland4151 That's right.

Look at the french bande dessinées and latin american comic books.

Without any actual merit to offer, their most valuable asset is conforming to the narrative they manufacture, so by enforcing ideals that preclude excellence in writing they're just protecting their jobs.

Was that before or after his art phase? Either way I am sure listening to it would be my struggle.

@@bestaround3323 he claimed to have millions of fans, but I don't think there was more 250k

They also have racially segregated heaven and they could bring back any mutant from any time, such as Apocalypse who Xavier shakes his hand. Also, that Hela looking nature girl who killed a random employee cause a plastic bag killed a turtle.

Because these people are such lowlifes, that despite despising something, they're very willing to use it if it will be in any way conducive to their shit. In other words, why make an effort or have patience if you can try to ride on someone else's shoulders, even if you hate their guts.