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CW Rig. Part 4 - Initial Class E Amplifier Experiments 

Charlie Morris ZL2CTM
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Video looking at the initial experiments with a Class E amplifier using an IRF510.
In addition to the video:
I tried increasing the drive voltage beyond 5V - no change.
I replaced the output transformer with a 6.4ohm load - 4.82Vrms = 3.6W (better)
Please note this is not a tutorial; just a video log of my experiments. I am no expert in this, so please bear that in mind.
All schematics and data are at: zl2ctm.blogspo...

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12 сен 2024

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@L2.Lagrange
@L2.Lagrange 7 месяцев назад
Only saw this as its pretty late at night. Definitely gonna take a look at this video later
@MIKROWAVE1
@MIKROWAVE1 Год назад
Charlie - Great work! I am in the same mode here with papers in hand. I decided to just use the Sokal formulas and an old 2 dollar 2SC2078 Bipolar CB transistor. Wow is all I can say. I designed for 10W out at 15 VDC. My circuit is just as drawn in the paper with a 10 Ohm R target. I used a 1:4 UNUN that got me up towards 50 Ohms then a filtered as you did on the tail end. 91% efficiency with zero optimization, and right on the nose at 10W out. Increasing VCC to 20V gave me 18W out with only a slight impact on efficiency.
@drewf64
@drewf64 4 года назад
Some of the most interesting content is from people who don't present themselves as experts. I really appreciate the way you talk through your idea, theory, design, implementation and results. Most importantly, even when the results are imperfect.
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM 4 года назад
Thank you very much for that, I appreciate it a lot. I'm glad the videos are useful.
@Chris-ZL
@Chris-ZL 4 года назад
a man who knows how little he knows, knows a great deal more than one who thinks he knows how much he knows Another great video Charlie!
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM 4 года назад
Thanks Chris. I'll keep working at it as it would be nice to get it to work like the theory.
@Tommybotham
@Tommybotham 3 года назад
I appreciate the tutorial (even though you don't think it is) and demo. I'm designing a 2nd iteration of a Class E Amplifier but with 13.56 MHz. I already have a buck converter made up to boost the sine wave signal using Vcc 1V - 24V.
@alimaiee1647
@alimaiee1647 2 года назад
Have u done it?
@Tommybotham
@Tommybotham 2 года назад
@@alimaiee1647 yeah, I was able to sweep from sub 1 V all the way up to 18.5 V.. but couldn't get up to 24 V. I kept losing a lot of heat on the MOSFET (n-type) and I just couldn't figure out why.
@andrewandrosow4797
@andrewandrosow4797 4 года назад
Hello!Nice work! But your gate driver ciruit works well until 1MHz.Some weeks ago I had made simple shortwave transmitter. Output stage was push-pull.There was two IRLML0040. This transistor has a low gate charge - 3nC. IRF520 has a gate chage 16nC. Gain of BJT has been follen at high frequency.For example - 2N3904 has Beta=100 at DC.But when we have frequency 5MHz - this parameter will be goughly 10..15. We can have a fast swtching of output mosfet - to prevent heat losses (the mosfet will be work in linear mode with long rise and fall time). The best way to improve your device - using low stage gate driver IC.
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM 4 года назад
Thanks Andrew. In the end I went with a totam pole driver which worked well. The MC34151P for whatever reason did not work well for me.
@Spookieham
@Spookieham 4 года назад
Thanks a lot Charlie. Appreciate the comment as to why you shoot in 720 as well - understood.
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM 4 года назад
Cheers Graeme. We have fibre going in soon so that alleviate the bandwidth issue.
@elwood.downey
@elwood.downey 4 года назад
Excellent description and demo, thank you. But if I heard you correctly, DC input power is about 4 W and RF output is 2 W so not as efficient as expected. More like class C.
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM 4 года назад
Correct. It's definitely not working correctly Elwood. I'm going to try a totem pole drive this morning, then look to try another amp using three parallel BS170s. It would be nice to get a Class E amp working close in line with the design and the LTSpice simulation (noting that it's only a simulation).
@chaoranchang8560
@chaoranchang8560 2 года назад
I am new to Class E, why you use sine wave as input for simulation, but the square wave as input in experiment? what is the difference between them?
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM 2 года назад
Probably my mistake. It believe it should be a square wave. I will be going another Class E amp at some stage, so will look at it again then.
@maxli8322
@maxli8322 3 года назад
Hi Charlie,I see the filter inductors with cors in this PCB, how do you select them under 3.525MHz operating frequency with less loss
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM 3 года назад
Hi Max. I use type 43 material which is suitable for what I use them for. Check out toroids.info/FT37-43.php
@peterwebb2224
@peterwebb2224 4 года назад
Hi Charlie, I noticed a new sig-gen in your video, looks like a feel tech, if so what are your thoughts on quality/performance of this unit compared to the siglent ? Thanks......Peter GW4ZUA
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM 4 года назад
Hi Peter. I've had the FeelElec FY6900 (they are all the same) for some time and it is a good sig gen. It actually does 99% of what the Siglent does. I decided in the end the Siglent output levels were displaying more accurately than the FeelElec. If you are on a budget then I'd certainly recommend the FeelElec. But, you do get what you pay for. I had a common problem where the sinewave output waveform was corrupted. I had to install the PC software and run the specially added 'fix sinewave' function. I hope that helps Peter.
@peterwebb2224
@peterwebb2224 4 года назад
Hi Charlie , Thanks for the feedback, here in the UK the Feel tech / elec version is about a third of the price of the Siglent (£278) , there is supposed to be a price rise coming up ! H'mm but as its close to my birthday............... :-) . Thank you for doing the videos a great source of knowledge and inspiration, between you and Pete N6QW I have learnt so much ............Thanks Peter
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM 4 года назад
@@peterwebb2224 Thanks Peter. I really appreciate the feedback.
@JT-py9lv
@JT-py9lv 4 года назад
Thumbs Up Charlie
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM 4 года назад
We'll get there. I just need to crack the secret...
@MegaCadr
@MegaCadr 4 года назад
I’m really surprised you are able to drive the irf510 with your signal generator. Too bad you weren’t getting better results. Did you try driving it with a higher gate voltage?
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM 4 года назад
I'm a little surprised too, but it looked to work. No I didn't try a higher gate voltage, but I will though. My plan is to also have the gate sitting at-say-1.2 to 2V, then have the RF drive on top of that.
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM 4 года назад
I just increased the gate drive voltage up to 6.5V. There was no increase in output power. 5V provides the max output. I must be doing something wrong.
@MegaCadr
@MegaCadr 4 года назад
Charlie Morris does it actually look like 6.5v on the gate when you are applying it?
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM 4 года назад
@@MegaCadr When I scope the gate, 5Vp-p on the sig gen = 8.1Vp-p on the scope. The gate does not look like 50ohm, so the sig gen display will be inaccurate. Either Way, I believe I'm getting 8Vp-p on the gate. I wonder if I should try the MC34151 again.
@MegaCadr
@MegaCadr 4 года назад
Charlie Morris according to this presentation, the irf510 needs quite a bit of drive power www.norcalqrp.org/files/Class_E_Amplifiers.pdf
@raafatalheety826
@raafatalheety826 4 года назад
Nice video de Yi1hxh rafat 73 from baghdad
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM
@CharlieMorrisZL2CTM 4 года назад
Thanks Rafat. I'm going to try BS170s today.
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