With xenosaga and xenogears I want a remaster as a remake would likely do away with the turn based combat especially with xenogears and what square is like
Remakes of first .hack games? You mean that PS2 version? Yeah, I'll agree with you because I haven't played first .hack games for PS2 yet. But, I hope they will make remakes of first .hack for PS4 for sure.🤔
Frankly, i don't think there is any way of fixing this that doesn't involve changing copyright and IP laws. Just consider how many of those games were created by companies that simply no longer exist, with rights not being traceable in any meaningful manner. In some cases emulation may well be the only way to actually do it. There's also a study commissioned by the EU that showed that software piracy has negligible or even negative losses for companies (i.e. they actually make more money). Personally i don't think copyright is even a good idea in the first place. It mainly protects publishers and does far more harm than good.
@@Llortnerof My idea would be when Subjecting the games to A ratings board they need to also supply a copy of the game to the rating board to archive for preservation and if ip isnt used for so long it becomes opensource
@@LeoSiegfried I don't think the ratings boards are the right place for that, and the latter is technically already the case... the problem is usually that the code is just straight up not available anymore.
It’s possible, all they have to do is figure out who owns the current copyright and do it, I think one day they will because they did gu and even made a part 4
I have Infection, Mutation, and Quarantine. Like an idiot, I rented Outbreak instead of just buying it. Which stings even more when you remember that these games were only $20 each when they released.
Unfortunately Bamco keeps shutting down every .hack project because they don't think it'll sell - fans just need to keep sending tickets to Bandai Namco and requesting more remakes, anime series, and movies for the franchise!
Bamco in general is really, really bad at making older titles available outside of 80s arcade games, but that finally seems like it's starting to change. We got Vesperia Definitive Edition, Symphonia moved over to modern platforms, Last Recode and the upcoming Baten Kaitos remasters. I think part of this is that we need to keep supporting their remastered games on modern platforms, and keep pushing for Dot Hack on social media. I don't think it's a lost cause at all. And as for SAO, I don't think it needs to be competition! Both are published by the same company, have Kite and Black Rose or Haseo appear as cameos in an SAO game or a mobile title! It can be "Hey, if you like *this* series about a fictional MMO, try *that* one, too!
.hack has always interested me since I've always heard about it in the back of RPG discussions, but never actually looked into it myself. And the fact that it is so foundational, such an important series in so many regards, but I know so little about it just... interests me. So it was interesting to hear discussion about them. Thanks for the video!
@@buttertoast1146 the GU games refined the gameplay for sure, but the orginal had great story and easter eggs from the anime and light novel, the dot hack universe in general is just a juicy piece of convoluted fiction that is fun to get into. It's a bit dated now that technology has evolved (those "VR" headsets in liminality, bruh) but on the whole it's just a fun series with lots of side and end game content and carry over to the sequels.
In my opinion the first IMOQ games are a actually really solid draconian rpg system, while .hack// g u is a more tight narrative while the game system is a lot more loose with the rules
With the 20th anniversary of Infection being almost two years ago now, I think we're way past due! I still remember borrowing Infection and Mutation from my older brother's friend way back in 2003 and I became absolutely obsessed. It was an escape for me as a teen when escape was nothing short of life-saving for me. Unfortunately I couldn't get Outbreak when it came out and over time I grew distant from the series, but I never forgot about it! Currently replaying it actually.
.hack reminds me of Digimon. It's pretty niche, but the fans are really devoted. I know my friend who otherwise spend his days off work reading manga and playing Kenshi or Football Manager then suddenly playing the new Digimon game because he just love the series so much. He was similarly happy when I sent him the .hack game on Steam. I'm not really familiar with the games outside of Kite and Haseo being cool, and I think I watched half of the prequel anime on Animax, but people really liked this series. We really need better game archival, availability, and title accessibility. It's insane that pirates are the only real access point for these old games.
Before Last Recode came out i actually used to tweet Bamco’s twitter accounts on a regular basis to release dot hack GU on modern consoles for about 2 years until it finally happened. Idk if they actually saw my tweets but i felt great when they finally made the announcement. God knows what it would take for them to bring the OG 4 cuz i did my part and bought Last Recode. Idk what else it would take from me.
I'd be very much open to a remaster of .hack IMOQ. I loved them back in the day. My cat is even named Mia from this series. And I still own my copies that I pre-ordered back in the day. They are never leaving my collection, so I would love for there to be a remaster so that others can get the same chance to play them that I have.
I hope the company goes through with remaking the .hack// games. Imagine the company using Unreal Engine 5 to create the games with more updated modern gameplay mechanics. I'd love to see Hulle Granz Cathedral in Unreal Engine 5. Hopefully they make the games M rated too especially to add more grit to the modern adaptation of these games.
.hack back around the time of Mutation's release is what drew me into anime and videogames and computers. It is the most influential piece of media to me. I remember seeing the opening theme to Liminality part 2 on file sharing networks and loving it and wanting to look more into it and since then it's been games like .hack, Xeno, Trails, Ys, and Atelier that are the bulk of my games I play. I think though that for the original quadrology the best been at the moment would be a ps2 classics release on ps4/5 since that is emulation but I do think they should update gameplay as a remake eventually though if that is done I would say the original should be kept with it to show where it came from. It won't happen though, so it's all a dream.
Listen, I will gladly join a cult/sacrifice whatever I need to/sell my kidney and liver/do whatever if that means I get a .Hack remake. That was 1 of the most important video games in my childhood that made me get into Jrpgs in the first place.
Hopefully they release those .hack remasters for the 25th anniversary. But that's like 4 years from now. They did Last Recode for the 20th. Also I sent Xseed an email telling them my friend and I want to play their Trails games on the Switch.
Wasn't Last Recode for the 15th anniversary? I know it came out on Switch last year, but the 20th anniversary was largely a flop as far as I can remember. A lot of merchandise and the 'bait' of last recollection, not much else.
@@TheKisekiNut Oh, yeah, the PS4 one was for the 15th. I was thinking about the Switch edition which I just bought on Sunday after watching your video. lol
The remaster for IMOQ would be one I'd very exciting for but totally unexpected, nobody really talks about dot hack. I was a massive fan for dot hack, got all of the novel books and the games, including the IMOQ on PS2, all four of them. It took me my entire childhood to find and buy all 4 parts of Dot Hack IMOQ in gameshops (Because I didn't have internet and online shopping wasn't really a thing back then, also living in the UK doesn't help.) Still, best treasure hunt ever. Also I agree with your point on SAO, awful that it is, it presented an interesting idea but they were simply weren't the first ones to do it, and it was dogshit.
I heard nothing but greatness about .hack since it first release on the ps2. I hope they make a hd/4K remaster/make. If not I have ps2 I don’t mind spending a little to play the original 4 games.
I really enjoyed the .hack characters when I was playing through the Project x Zone games (they appeared among the Bandai Namco cast). Would love to try the original games at some point.
I have the original PS2 games of the original 4 and GU in storage, but even then, I would love a remaster of the original 4. I bought Last Recode when it came out and would happily buy the original 4. We need more awareness of the .Hack series!
Those games could do with a remake which consolidates and streamlines the first quadrilogy into one title that tells an excellent story altogether. In today's world, the concept of a game which takes user data to create an AI would hit a lot harder.
i hope we can all play a remake of the first .hack games in the future. i only played GU (and its HD collection) and link, but i also wanted to play the first 4 that started it all.
I remember picking up the mini advert poster from GAME in 2000? about this game coming out and I picked them up one by one. I'll never part with my IMOQ copies, but I like many others feel it deserves an HD remaster.
.hack//sign was probably the first anime I ever watched, and I loved it. My brother and I were taken to Hollywood video by our parents(back when game rental companies still existed) we rented infection thinking that it was based on the show(which it kinda was) it wasn’t what we expected but so much better. I got stuck on skeith on infection, he beat him. He got stuck on magus on mutation, I beat her. It literally brought the kids in our family together!
If we want a remake/remaster of .hack IMOQ we need to prove to Bandai Namco it's worth the investment. Buy the Baten Kaitos Remasters so they see their niche RPG remasters can sell well. and Buy CC2's new original IP Fuga Melodies of Steel to show that CC2's original games can sell well. The problem with CC2's games in general is that their licensed games sell millions while their original IP games sell barely over 100,000. .hack is in between these two being a pretty well known original IP so the G.U. remaster sold about 500,000 last I heard which is pretty good for a remaster from a series that lots it's popularity. CC2 usually says they're pretty happy with the sales of their original games, but I think after the poor sales of Solatorobo and Asura's Wrath over a decade ago they basically were unable to pitch their original IP to publishers anymore. I'm glad they are self publishing their original games now, but I definitely would like to see them do better. Fuga is an amazing game so check it out.
I've played 3 of the 4 games I did come across quarantine but regretfully didn't pick it up at the time if I knew it was gonna become rare I would have snatched it immediately
I absolutely love the .hack series. I have all 4 of the IMOQ games still at my place, purchased them in my teens as they released. These are certainly not the best games especially from gameplay perspective. But the whole cross-media story is quite good but you need to invest a lot of time into it to enjoy the complete story. I think one of the main reasons they remastered the G.U. trilogy first was because it was never released in Europe, only Asia and NA and it is not as easy to play american PS2 games on an european console and TV. So the Remaster was the first real chance for players in europe to enjoy the G.U. games. And while I also really like SAO, unfortunately the SAO video games are just plain bad games imo. I rly enoyed Hollow Fragment and spend hundreds of hours in there, but all games following just did not get me hooked.
In my opinion they should just port them, remastering this games might not give the return they expect also seems pretty challenging base on the gameplay, simply will not give them justice. But it would be great if they work on revival of some sorts. A new game would be cool, the original games felt great at the time also the series especially Sign
.hack GU is one of my favorite series of all time, the story and gameplay makes it a masterpiece of a series. The OG series on the other hand is very tedious and repetitive, the story is good but I can’t imagine replaying the OG series unless they make some serious changes to the gameplay
Man, I can't even remember which point in .Hack/Infection I got stuck. Think it was the level grind vs super hard enemies or a boss. But I still have great memories from years ago and can't think of many other games right now that need a remake more.
IMOQ is a nightmare of licensing to remaster mostly because of Liminality. I'm pretty sure this is the real reason there's been no attempt to do so yet.
I've got the compete quadrilogy, but my ps2 is dying sadly (it's been with me for nearly 2 decades I can't fault it's hard work), so I'll either need to get a new console or rely on running it via an emulator. It's doable, but it's outside the amount of work people who aren't invested would consider worth it. I recommend playing .hack to a lot of people, but I always tell them to emulate as a rule.
I would like to see a remaster/remake of .hack, I watch my dad playing it when i was a kid, I love the world design and character. I did try the recode remaster but didn't complete it as i got bored playing it. My 2 main problem of it is the game are just too easy, even on the hard difficult and I can get OP and OL so quickly. The other is the arena, i feel like they just copy and paste in first 3 game (I stop on 3rd game). They are nothing exciting.
I hate to put it like this, but I actually want a new game that wraps everything up. Obviously I want more .hack but if it's fate is to get something every decade or longer, I'd rather them go all out with one final game, make it as good as they can, so I can experience the end of the franchise I love so dearly in my lifetime.
they sort of did with //link literally going thru all the history of the franchise but it got locked on the PSP and only recently has a 100% full english fantranslation. Still suffers from a lot of the same problems of previous games
@@WillTheGreatest I understand it was advertised as that but they even had a teaser for the movie and adjacently to that Versus since they were bundled. If Link was it and bundled it up in a neat bow then that would've been fine. But they kept releasing things teasing more and more. What I would like is a definitive end. With no teasing and the majority, doesn't need to be all, questions solved. As much as it would sort of be in bad taste, doing another .hack//Link style story telling but with a create a character we can make and choose a class for the msq would personally be my ideal send off scenario. We, the player, get to save "The World" in it's send off.
Love the vid man. Its been about almost 6 years since i first played last recode on ps4 and the games were an amazing time. I want the tetralogy to play them and i recently bought the pc and switch versions of last recode because what else would convince Namco to do tetralogy. I hope we get those remasters one day it would be nice and also be supported on steam deck too.
At this point, the way things are standing, .Hack// has not received any new games, anime, manga or anything besides merchandise for their 20th anniversary. This almost feels like this poor game series is getting benched at all possible angles just for something like SAO to get all the spotlight. The problem is that the last mainline series game from .Hack// was Link, on the psp and after that was Last Recode which is a remaster of the 3 G.U. games with a bonus 4th volume. I love Last Recode and even consider it to be my top 3 RPGs I've ever played. But ever since then, IMOQ has been requested immensely from fans and when the 20th anniversary would’ve came along, I would’ve assumed that there would be some news regarding a series revivial or a new game to continue the .Hack// lore. The only thing that I can really hope for is that enough fan demand can come for Bandai to shift their attention towards this series in hopes for a remaster or remake of the original IMOQ games, another .Hack// game to remaster or a whole new .Hack// game. In this day and age, most popular games are being either remastered or remade, it just feels like a matter of time and demand for IMOQ to eventually come to modern consoles as the game has aged in gameplay as well as how to find a legitimate way to get all 4 without having to spend an arm and leg to play them which in themselves can be improved upon greatly. I would feel really bad if this is where the game series ended as the lore and story is unique to everything that was out back then and even now. I'm willing to give time because I don’t want people to give up on the potential of this series.
I think we'll get it eventually but maybe not right away. However, if they did do this I'd be insanely happy as I always wanted to experience these games as one of my best friends has talked the games up so much and he actually owns the PS2 originals. however, I'm leaning very hard into going through the emulation route just to play them.
The .hack games were great for it's time but sadly they didnt age well. They need to remake those games if anything or just clean up the battle system.
for its time VR was not a thing that exist yet. i wonder how well the world building/story fare against our current (as of 2023) backdrop of technology and advancement.
I'd love a .hack remaster or remake hell can we get xenosaga and some other timeless games I'd personally love if we can get lost odyssey and infinite undiscovery on anything other than xbox 360 and there back compatible
I only ever heard of .hack through the Crossover title ProjectXZone. I thought the characters were pretty cool from that game and they even brought in Haseo in the sequel. That I still haven't finished. I'm on it, but it may take a while. I am pretty sure my friend would love it if they remade the OG games. Or just brought them back in some capacity. It just sucks that so many great games from the olden days kind of have to be played through other means, because you can not buy them legally from the creator anymore. It sucks and I wish companies would do more to preserve older titles. If they don't want people to turn to emulation, then they need to let us buy the games from them instead. But hey, some of the stuff is getting done these days and we only need to show them it will print money. Maybe then we can get what we want from bamco. Like older Tales of titles. I so want to play Destiny, Eternia and Rebirth but Bamco never really gave us these games even though many of us want to play them. I will pay them cash money if they port the older 2D Tales of titles to modern platforms. Even if it's just the PC, take my money Bamco, just take it!
Is the relationship between SAO and .hack really that antagonistic? I would've thought that an anime series with that premise would naturally end up bringing more attention and interest to video games featuring a similar setting. People watching the anime and then looking for more similar experiences. I would've guessed they'd be more mutually beneficial for each other.
Not really. It's just hard not to be salty because Bandai is known for being tightfisted on remasters. Just look at Tales. The issue here is that .hack and SAO are a kind of a generation apart. Most old folks like me know .hack from fansubs of the anime, and SAO from its official anime release in the West. SAO has benefitted from the exposure it legally recieves on Sony's platforms from the getgo. SAO is getting resources because it's still an ongoing multimedia franchise with a currently paying audience. The spinoffs still sell, and those blurays still sell in the west despite the prices rivalling JP releases. It only makes sense to fund a tie-in if the games do decent runs. In order to get a remaster for .hack, you would most likely need strong momentum leading into a franchise revival or Bandai funding a cheap port just to have it and call it a day. The first one is difficult considering the pains Digimon had to go through while the second one is undesirable.
It's more that Bandai Namco have inherent trust in SAO that they don't have in .Hack. If they had limited resources and had to choose between a new SAO game or .Hack game, they're pretty much always going with SAO since it's proven itself for many years.
Hey man what game you playing in the intro? It's got my attention I wanna check it out. XD also been playing .Hack//Infection before I play .Hack//Roots. :) Bros been letting my borrow his PS2 Slim and he got me a mem card so I'm happy I never got to finish the games as a kid. "32" now. So hoping to get to finish all 4-5 games. :) ^^ Loving the first one so far. Trying to remember how everything works. It's all dejavu because I'm used to games with auto save lmao. So trying to get used to the old consoles again. :) Currently don't have a PC otherwise I'd play this game on PCsx2. Lol. :P Btw sorry if I didn't read the game title my vision is bad. XD
A remaster of .Hack doesn't mean much to me. What makes this series attract me is his story. As for the gameplay, I think it can only be regarded as reaching the passing line, and it is easy to get bored. If it is the same as FF7 remake, remade from the graphics, gameplay, and cutscenes, I will definitely support it
I think I'd actually prefer a .hack spiritual remake. I actually went back and replayed the first couple of .hack games a couple of year ago and, oof, they haven't aged well.
Emulate or pirate. I honestly would do either if certain games are too much and it's not I wouldn't care either. I want remasters of xenogears xenosaga and trails in the sky on switch at least but I'd prefer on PS4/ps5. I have Pokémon black 2 white 2 soulsilver in box with pokewalker and fire emblem radiant dawn and I would sell as the extra cash would be great but I wouldn't want to support eBay or cex
It would be cool to try going into like a Reboot Or maybe they can go the Persona 3 Reload route I'd literally start a Funding petition for Bandai and CC2 being able to create some new .Hack
omfg ,please let this be true, .hack finally needs to return onto actual console as PS5 remakes of the whole 4 games and once that is done, make finally a new .hack game series for ps5, once the fanbase has been revived :3
They games have so much potential for improvements with the PS5, not just looking much bett,er having no reload times ect., but also the combat system woudl profit alot
When speaking of the multimedia set of the original games, he forgot one: the evil corporation behind the games IN the Games Storyline is CCcorp... the company that made the games IRL is CyberConnect2... C, FRICKIN, C... they're the villains of their own games, and i loved that. But with all these ps2 era games being remade lately, i sincerly hope we get either a Full Remake, Final Fantasy Zodiac Age style, or a completely new game... sadly, its in the Hands BandaiNamco, so... still, it would definitely sell... Honestly though, the best option would be a New Anime(or manga) series... if THAT takes off, which it likely will, That would be proof of Popularity. Honestly. S.A.O. Sucks, they keep making money off of what is essentially a knockoff OF .hack, But less interesting, because instead of Kite/Kaito and Tsukasa, interesting characters, you have Captain Emo and his merry Men Kirito... which is sad, because a NON-ANIME TIE-IN S.A.O. Rpg WOULD be interesting... but that wont happen either...
PAL gamer with the original 4 games on ps2 (have ova dvds too) I've played the games and love them. I think its aged badly but a cool series none the less. Id love to sell mine at a good rate, but I'm scared that if I sell cheap a scalper will re sell for a killing, I. Just recommend emulation
I have similar views on pirating. If the games aren't made available new, then I don't feel bad about it. Frankly it's their fault for not making the product available. The console industry is plagued by a lack of backwards compatibility, which makes remastering a necessity, but hopefully this is changing. I played these games on my hacked PS2 a few years ago, which is the best way to play PS2 games. They weren't particularly good games, but they had a very unique vibe and interesting enough story. Very short games, around 20 hours each. I recommend the main anime series .hack//sign over the games though. It takes place before the games chronologically and covers the perspective of several characters, so it's a better intro to the world. Just be prepared for a lot of talking and not much fighting, which is actually a very realistic portrayal of MMORPG addicts.
In my experience, the younger audience might feel a bit of cringe towards the .hack premise thanks to SAO and so many other not-so-great examples. If .hack// had something that SAO and others didn't (imo), it was its depth, serenity, and a sense of mystery mixed with gloomy vibes. It was the complex psychological journey from "down bad" towards "average". However, in videogame terms, it is true that even G.U. is pretty outdated (most dot hack games are), so a remaster of the original 4 won't be enough. To fully rekindle the IP's flame I believe they'd have to try with a different genre, not just the same with better graphics and lots of quality of life. Maybe a Soulslike, or even a CRPG (would be closer to the usual .hack gameplay). The IP has great story and soundtrack, but the gameplay is always so bland, which can make finishing the titles seem quite a chore.
To be honest, I'm against the idea of at least remastering the infection, mutation...etc. games. I can't imagine just polishing them up will satisfy anyone, except when it comes to the pricetag. Just thinking about the "3 screens for one skill" mentality makes me curl up again. But I love to see a remake at some point combining the 4, although first...hell has to freeze up for that to happen.
Sometimes i just dont want to bye remake. It mostly concerns western games. Like Dead space and Mass effect. Because i knew who developed this games, and i knew what publisher do to developers. So they will not get even a cent from me.