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U.S. Cybersecurity experts are moving away from programming languages that require manual memory management like C and C++.
Citing a major reason for exploits, they are now recommending that organizations put together a plan to move towards languages that are "memory-safe."
In this video, we'll discuss the issue with C and C++, why big players like Microsoft are in agreement, and exactly what programming languages these experts are recommending.
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00:00 Intro
00:13 The official statement
01:24 What is memory safety?
02:52 Issues with C and C++
03:29 Language 1
03:33 Microsoft all in
04:58 Language 2
05:32 Language 3
05:49 Language 4
06:11 Language 5
06:27 Language 6
06:54 More languages
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@ByThisShallAllMenKnow 5 месяцев назад

Started with Assembly then C++, haven't done either in decades, and re-started in the last 8 months with Python and C.

@synen 5 месяцев назад

I absolutely love Go, my favorite language right now.

@GoWithAndy-cp8tz 2 месяца назад

I can't say it better! Cheers!

@shubh16.96 5 месяцев назад

Interesting content, but the issue is, the use of C and CPP is so vast particularly in Embedded Systems and device drivers that it will take a lot of effort before the full transition can actually happen. It will be interesting to C how much adoption these languages get. Another thing is that today in most of the university curriculum C is the primarily used language and even in most interviews too candidates are asked C. So if things really have to change those need to be done right from the grass root level, i.e., the universities and schools so that the GenZ can really appreciate why it is needed.

@aipujols 5 месяцев назад

Primarily code in Python, but Go has really caught my attention. ( market need is strong)

@Serene1618-ef1kx 5 месяцев назад

Folks who were using C/C++ were doing so because they needed the performance. That pretty much instantly eliminates GC languages. All you are left with is Rust, maybe Zig, and possibly Mojo from modular. The only other option is Carbon (presuming google adds some memory safety features. For now, I can only recommend Rust.

@connorskudlarek8598 5 месяцев назад

I mean, Go and Java are incredibly performant languages as well. And it's GC'd. Lots of dev teams use C/C++ simply because the team already knows the language, not because of performance itself. So when going from something slow and starting to re-write for more performance, C/C++ becomes a good option. You don't need to train 20 people in a new language nor hire Rust developers. Learning Rust is daunting and takes a long time to become competent and even longer to become good. So making the entire team switch to it from C/C++ doesn't make a lot of sense unless performance is truly the biggest reason they were using it in the first place. Go is a great middle ground for teams that don't need absolutely top-tier speed, they just need something better than like Node, Python, or whatever else they're using. If they're considering Java, but don't have Java developers on hand-they could consider Go instead. It takes less time to learn Go, is memory-safe, and the speed of development is top-tier (for the performance gains).

@connorskudlarek8598 5 месяцев назад

Because of the craziness of the Rust Foundation, I'm not sure I would recommend Rust for devs. At least, if you go into it, just know it's a wild ride at the top.

@edensheiko 5 месяцев назад

for low level like stm32 (with Freetos) I don't have choice its ONLY C

@connorskudlarek8598 5 месяцев назад

@@edensheiko from a bit of searching, you could possibly use Rust and RTIC. It's supposedly the equivalent for microcontrollers.

@cezarywieczorkowski5642 Месяц назад

@@edensheiko I think there is a rust HAL for some stm32 devices. Unfortunately I dont think that any rtos supports rust yet so only baremetal with rust

@anon3118 5 месяцев назад

is node.js or something about the v8 engine not memory safe? I'm also surprised kotlin wasn't mentioned during Java, but swift was?

@dominikskeries 29 дней назад

i wanna learn rust and go one day but i decided to go all in on ada it’s safe it’s mature and used for military and mission critical software

@haliszekeriyaozkok4851 5 месяцев назад

I'm currently using rust in my projects and i'm pretty much happy with it. I'dont need any other language except android or ios.

@dmitriidemenev5258 Месяц назад

Tauri also has a beta support for iOS and Android development. Also, you can create Java and Swift bindings for Rust libraries.

@jebotipasmater 5 месяцев назад

My dude has the best logo for Swift! 🤣

@vectoralphaAI 5 месяцев назад

I started learning programming with C++ as my first introductory language. But as of now i havent programmed in C++ for 3 years. I moved primarily to Python, Zig, and Flutter with plans to learn Mojo soon next month.

@dimadeloseros1 5 месяцев назад

So based on your statement I can assume that you're programming for living?

@flogginga_dead_horse4022 5 месяцев назад

@@dimadeloseros1 sounds more like they are playing around with languages and doing nothing lol Can't master them all

@paulsander5433 2 месяца назад

I'm surprised LISP isn't on the list. It's about as memory safe as you can get. And it was built around the functional programming paradigm, which is all the rage right now.

@christ.4977 5 месяцев назад

I think compiling to Web Assembly will be the future. Write once run everywhere.

@scarlatum 5 месяцев назад

Java 2.0

@computernerd8157 5 месяцев назад

No, unless every program becomes a web program.

@oboy_64 5 месяцев назад

There are so many programs that do not belong in a browser. This can only be true for web programs, and even then, web assembly might be a bit overkill for some websites.

@victor38542 5 месяцев назад

@@oboy_64 One day, the browser will run a browser, which will then run internet itself. By then, you won't use a browser on some OS to access internet, you'll use THE browser to run an OS that runs internet-complete with gov certs. You'll browse nothing but you'll be happy!

@serene_618-fb3ns 4 месяца назад

I disagree. Learning curve is a big part of how accessible a technology will be. There are some JavaScript devs who wouldnt even touch typescript, or any stongly typed language… so it is doubtful that people switch over to Wrbassembly with Rust or another strongly typed language.

@ranwinsu8351 5 месяцев назад

What about assembly language?

@GoWithAndy-cp8tz 2 месяца назад

I know C and I like it, but since I know how to program in GO it's so hard to push myself to do anything in C. I like C++ but I don't know ++11,14,17,20,23, Just C++98. I hate templates and auto pointers and all that new stuff because I don't use it very frequent and didn't memorize it yet. Modern C++ seems to me so strange. But Rust looks even worse to me than modern C++:) Cheers! How about Zig?

@khalshal8439 2 месяца назад

same here bro, the new c++ stuffs are very strange

@dmitriidemenev5258 Месяц назад

It probably looks strange to you because it exposes complexity and idiomatic code usually implies the use of standard set of abstractions. I've noticed that Go developers hate dependencies and love to reimplement abstractions.

@GoWithAndy-cp8tz Месяц назад

@@dmitriidemenev5258I couldn't agree more. Maybe it's because you don't have to remember all these abstractions and it's easy to recall after some time what have you done by yourself?

@traezeeofor 5 месяцев назад

Rust GoLang C Sharp Python Java Swift

@Codotaku 5 месяцев назад

All you need: Rust, Zig and C#

@rajendranramachandran2839 5 месяцев назад

Cybersecurity experts recommend prioritizing memory safe languages for software development. Click to expand 00:01 ✦ CISA recommends moving away from C and C++ due to memory safety vulnerabilities. 00:59 ✦ Memory safety languages automatically manage memory to prevent security vulnerabilities. 01:59 ✦ US cybersecurity experts recommend transitioning from C and C++ to memory safe languages like Rust. 02:57 ✦ Cybersecurity experts recommend using Rust for its memory safety and reliability. 03:55 ✦ Recommended programming languages for cybersecurity 04:52 ✦ Python is a popular and versatile language. 05:50 ✦ Switching to memory-safe languages for security reasons

@rinzler9775 4 месяца назад

I am yet to meet an actual "Cybersecurity expert" who is actually an expert.

@liquidmobius 3 месяца назад

Or knows how to program

@johncarlson3968 2 месяца назад

Anyone writing a compiler backend to produce Rust? Can one compile C++ in LLVM to Rust?

@dmitriidemenev5258 Месяц назад

You can generally transpile C++ into Rust with unsafe uses because the problem with C++ is precisely its semantics. However, there's a tool sponsored by DARPA for assisted rewriting C++ to Rust.

@kal.asther 2 месяца назад

Okaayy... That's why Google is making Carbon.

@m4rt_ 5 месяцев назад

0:03 ... at this point if I decide to learn a new language it would probably be my 30th or something.

@BuddaFett 5 месяцев назад

I know python but want to get my hands on mojo

@alexkatsanos8475 5 месяцев назад

MS will change it into Rust++

@alexkatsanos8475 5 месяцев назад

@@misterheath even better!

@michaelzomsuv3631 5 месяцев назад

Give me Rust-- (minus minus), the language is already full of garbage and bloated like no tomorrow.

@boy_deploy 2 месяца назад

Then MS Visual Rust++ history repeats itself 😂

@catalinagalan 5 месяцев назад

Ok I have to ask, why the doubtful look when mentioning Ruby? 🤔 I am genuinely curious!

@sergeiromanoff 2 месяца назад

$10M doesn't really make it 'all in' for microsoft

@eddisonlewis8099 5 месяцев назад

Interesting

@tylerIsAPerson 2 месяца назад

Poor Ruby... so much shade 😂

@_-6912 Месяц назад

What about Java?

@haroldguzman1285 5 месяцев назад

What should I learn first Java or Python?

@soupso 2 месяца назад

Of course Python. It's significantly more versatile than Java. In addition, Python is open-source, whereas the Java ecosystem is sort of controlled by Oracle.

@0311Coder Месяц назад

Trust me! Java is the right way!!!

@Cawnnak Месяц назад

Rust is the game changer from GC to non-GC. Don't learn a language because is your favorite. Learn a programming language because it save time and solve your problem with better system.

@johncarlson3968 2 месяца назад

What are those languages written in? How many have bootstrapped entirely?

@dmitriidemenev5258 Месяц назад

Rust was originally written in OCaml. Now it's bootstrapped. I believe there's still a C++ compiler for a subset of Rust.

@Phantom-lr6cs Месяц назад

all compilers cannot work and they depend on c/c++ gcc/llvm all of them are written in c/c++ so rust doesn't exists without c/c++ ;

@dmitriidemenev5258 Месяц назад

@@Phantom-lr6cs You're right that rustc currently depends on LLVM, which is written in C++. However, it's possible to use Cranelift as a compiler backend instead. Cranelift is written in Rust. It was pragmatic to use LLVM, so Rust uses that. Rust *can* exist without C++. However, what's the point to avoid using what's available? LLVM is quite slow, so it's a good reason but for now it's good enough.

@liquidmobius 3 месяца назад

The functional paradigm promotes much better safety than imperative. Scala, OCaml and Scheme (Lisp) would be much better than Rust, as they're also memory safe and garbage collected. Sounds like these "experts" just want to promote Rust because it has such a loud community.

@dmitriidemenev5258 Месяц назад

Rust supports functional programming with zero-cost abstractions. You do have .map, .filter, .reduce and everything is immutable by default. You can keep it this way, if you want to but Rust's idiomatic code combines features of procedural and functional programming.

@vinaykumarva8538 5 месяцев назад

India Startup love Go❤❤❤

@lonewolf9874 10 дней назад

just wait until you find the vulnerabilities in Rust just use a fast easy to understand memory safe language like c#

@MarioCheong-lu5hb 5 месяцев назад

Should i go all out for kotlin?

@dmitriidemenev5258 Месяц назад

Kotlin Multiplatform looks promising and it's widely used in Android.

@deathlife2414 5 месяцев назад

C/C++ isn't going anywhere b/c the performance and energy cost is good. Rust,zig and the other languages have problems to. For example zig is not production ready, Rust cargo have the same feeling as node for simple crud project the entire thing become 300mb. C# doesn't have good support on linux which most the of developers and server run on. Java is the only on that comes near C/C++ but lackes in perefomance. The only language that should have replaced but failed is dlang B/c it couldn't attract people it got small community and the packages arr out of data.

@SyakibZidane 4 месяца назад

I dont know about node, but i know rust very well. 300mb is not true.

@deathlife2414 4 месяца назад

@@SyakibZidane oh. What did you use ?

@SyakibZidane 4 месяца назад

@@deathlife2414 Actix Web

@dmitriidemenev5258 Месяц назад

Target dir is big because it contains incremental compilation cache, which makes consequent builds faster. The binaries themselves are reasonably small. The debug symbols aren't stripped by default but you can do this if you want. According to the study of energy efficiency of programming languages, Rust lands between C and C++ in terms of performance and energy efficiency.

@nixoncode 5 месяцев назад

going all in with Go

@sandeepvk 4 месяца назад

Ruby ?

@dmitriidemenev5258 Месяц назад

I've heard that Ruby is notorious for monkey patching. I never used Ruby though and I'll be glad to learn more.

@kaihusravnajmiddinov5413 2 месяца назад

Do you know ?

@swapCode 5 месяцев назад

Going for Go

@agranero6 Месяц назад

This misguided call, even from White House instills the wrong concept that programs made in Rust are incapable of being attacked by buffer overflow attacks. First this is not true there is a lot of ways of following Rust ways and still have huge exploits available. And yet lets remember that many attacks those days use design flaws on the chips (remember Spectre?) and the payload installs on the BIOS of the computer intercepting calls to disk. You can move away from C++ and C but don't let this make you have a false sensation of safety. As always those that don't really are the interface between the chair and the keyboard come with a simple, cheap, fake, a size fits all rationalization that will not change safety of of systems and will create a false aura of safety. Use Rust it has advantages and disadvantages, but keep your feet in the ground, because reality always intrude in your cognitive biases.

@gurudaki 5 месяцев назад

C# all the way for the future!

@vectoralphaAI 5 месяцев назад

If youre specifically in the Microsoft ecosystem sure, but not otherwise.

@GiantsOnTheHorizon 5 месяцев назад

@@vectoralphaAIwhy not otherwise?

@vitalyl1327 5 месяцев назад

GC, therefore useless. Same for golang.

@devon9374 5 месяцев назад

The irony of this is that much of the core “infrastructure” of the tech world come from open source. Right now, much work is being done in AI by individual developers that will be core infrastructure of the future. Such as GGML and llama.cpp which is written in what? C++!!! The core of the most important libraries in Python are already what? C++!!! C++ isn’t going anywhere for the next 69 years hahaha

@ranwinsu8351 5 месяцев назад

Is JavaScript a memory safe language?

@vectoralphaAI 5 месяцев назад

No. Its the same as C++ in memory safety, so not good.

@adityamedhe 5 месяцев назад

@@vectoralphaAI You couldn't be more wrong

@ranwinsu8351 5 месяцев назад

What about PHP?

@doweensbwambale 5 месяцев назад

JS is not on the list?

@vectoralphaAI 5 месяцев назад

No. There are better languages for the future than JavaScript.

@hieu8276 5 месяцев назад

In short, except for Rust, just use languages that have garbage collector!

@codechapin 5 месяцев назад

Swift?

@steveoc64 4 месяца назад

Rust with its ownership model is a GC language. It’s model is directly taken from Simula I, it’s nothing new or unique GC doesn’t mean “mark and sweep” only Ownership, raii, ref counting are all GC strategies. Rust is just another GC language, and corporate sales speak (like from Mark Russinovich) doesn’t make facts disappear Problem with rust (in terms of safety), is that is borrow checker is too opinionated, and returns false positives too easily. It will reject valid code that it can’t apply simple parsing rules to, requiring the user to then mangle and over complicate how the program sees its own data Good luck to anyone who has to maintain the mess that this is going to cause

@dmitriidemenev5258 Месяц назад

The "GC" is ran at compile-time. More appropriately it's called scope-based resource management. There's a similar concept in C++ but it's refined in C++ because in Rust the lifetimes are reified and there's a borrow checker. Indeed, Rust just improved on existing ideas. However, the result is astounding. Borrow checker is not "too opinionated". The foundational ownership and borrowing rules are grounded in the limitations of the real hardware and resource management. And the rare cases where it is indeed too strict are going to be addressed by the next generation of borrow checker, Polonius. Rust's type system just reflects what things are. In C++ and C people also speak in terms of lifetimes. However, they have no language entities to reflect or represent that.

@steveoc64 Месяц назад

@@dmitriidemenev5258 it’s not run at compile time .. automatic reallocation is calculated at compile time, and injected into the object code to run at runtime. So you still end up with GC at runtime Rust is a GC language And yes, you can optionally build C++ or D (or even Zig) to use GC if that suits the task. Rust only lets you break out if GC by using unsafe and jumping through hoops (Same as go - you can jump into unsafe mode to do manual memory management) Like Go though, if you need to jump in and out of unsafe mode, you are probs forcing the wrong tool on the problem

@rinzler9775 4 месяца назад

Next year "cyber security experts find huge vulnerability issues in Rust" - make no mistake, Rust is new but vulnerabilities will become apparent.

@Kodlak15 4 месяца назад

You can write vulnerable code in any programming language. The reason people are excited about Rust is it specifically makes it much harder to write code with memory vulnerabilities, and does so while still offering performance comparable to languges like C/C++. Of course there will be vulnerabilities associated with Rust projects. However, there will almost surely be fewer memory vulnerabilities associated with Rust projects than older C/C++ projects due to the way the Rust compiler forces you to write code.

@pixtweaks393 5 месяцев назад

I go fo GO!

@flogginga_dead_horse4022 5 месяцев назад

C# for 20 years Rust for about 2... Tried everything else.

@spross216 5 месяцев назад

I ❤ Go

@empoweringourlife 5 месяцев назад

please make a video in this topic "top 10 course take in 2024" 🥰🤩

@haibaidzokwomandre1468 5 месяцев назад

Team GO.

@CrIMeFiBeR 2 месяца назад

11 million from microsoft is all in? no that is doing whatever you please but trying to have a good publicity article for the least amount of dollars. better put in some support

@computernerd8157 5 месяцев назад

The Gov can do what they want, Lazy people will make Garbage Rust code. I am going to focus on code for my purposes. Chasing tech fades does not help me accomplish my objectives. I the only way they can benfit from making the switch is to rewrite all that legacy C code in Rust. Some high ranking Linux devs would love to switch to Rust probably just the spite C++ devs but these are the same people who stuck with C--. In the end, all are fine tools but I am supecious about using a languange that locked down to a companies walles Garden. Swift , Carbon, C# and even Kotlin. I can use them but I am not going to use them for personal projects. Kotlin the exception to the rule but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Its like Googled designed simple things in Kotlin just to be annoying for Java devs. I wonder if Rust is different.

@jcbritobr 5 месяцев назад

Is cool to see this c++ devs crying seeing theyr languages deprecated 😂😂😂

@greekapostle4548 5 месяцев назад

Zig is the best choice right now

@ashak2825 5 месяцев назад

Only zag

@flogginga_dead_horse4022 5 месяцев назад

Zig is not even ready for prime time

@dmitriidemenev5258 Месяц назад

Zig has great compile-time execution but it struggles financially.

@tazanteflight8670 5 месяцев назад

About 40 years of development on c/c++ compilers, so no new language could ever beat it. If you want power, you want C/C++

@Codotaku 5 месяцев назад

40 years of tech debt and backward compatibility, if you want a mess, you want C++. Seriously Rust and Zig have the same performance and it will only get better, at the end of the day it's all compiled down to assembly. It's not like we're not gonna use the knowledge we learnt from developing C and C++ in this new languages.

@tazanteflight8670 5 месяцев назад

@@CodotakuIt Hey, bicycles are great. And the new ones have cool LED lights!

@vitalyl1327 5 месяцев назад

And Rust runs on the same compiler backend anyway.

@Codotaku 5 месяцев назад

indeed@@vitalyl1327

@SaHaRaSquad 5 месяцев назад

You sound weirdly confident for someone who apparently never heard of LLVM. Also you don't need to repeat 40 years of work to gain the same level today because now people know the lessons learned in that time.

@thereals_updates8456 5 месяцев назад

first to comment please wish me well lol

@flogginga_dead_horse4022 5 месяцев назад

you're the best

@muneefaltamimi8677 5 месяцев назад

Don’t sneak the slow Python with them

@NamNguyen-ct1fy 5 месяцев назад

Where is React ????

@pixtweaks393 5 месяцев назад

how often you use react on the back end?

@LokeshKumar-tk7ri 5 месяцев назад

😂😂

@tanakamichael-dp1nb 5 месяцев назад

🤣

@vectoralphaAI 5 месяцев назад

React is not a language its a JavaScript framework. And JavaScript isnt even in the list anyway.

@haibaidzokwomandre1468 5 месяцев назад

@@vectoralphaAI I thought it is a library. I mean a JavaScript library

@computernerd8157 5 месяцев назад

I am not claiming to know everything but guess what, a Destructer can be used to delete these pointers. All problems can be solved by being a good programmer. Lazy people make garbage code.

@JohnDoe-vb3ks 5 месяцев назад

So no real alternative was offered, nice recommendation.

@nopair5688 5 месяцев назад

Safety is a enduser problem. It's not my problem lol

@OsalenDavidson Месяц назад

The LORD JESUS CHRIST is our SAVIOUR

@1____-____1 Месяц назад

If you say so...

@tazanteflight8670 5 месяцев назад

English is out, and pig latin is in!!!!! Nope. C/C++ isnt going anywhere. C/C++ is for power users. Scripting languages are for kids.

@JanJozefo 5 месяцев назад

Neither Rust nor Go are scripting languages. Also, thinking "scripting languages are for kids" is for kids. The world runs on Excel VBA, batch, perl, and python scripts

@tazanteflight8670 5 месяцев назад

@@JanJozefo C/C++ is a Mercedes. Fully realized, and refined. Any new language will start as a bicycle. Why waste your time. Like I said no new language can compete with C/C++ compilers which are decades refined, documented, perfected, and optimized. The rust, python, C# etc languages are bicycles. Have fun.

@michaelzomsuv3631 5 месяцев назад

@@tazanteflight8670 So why is C++ still getting tons of features and changes with every new release if it's "fully realized and refined" ? The way you talk about it makes you sound like you never used either.

@JanJozefo 5 месяцев назад

@@tazanteflight8670 sure, we agree on that 100%. It's not that there's no reason to use C/C++. It's not an either/or situation. Some projects are just better suited to some languages due to time-constraints and other factors that make it such that manual memory management is a much greater liability than the performance hit from using Rust or Go

@flogginga_dead_horse4022 5 месяцев назад

boomer? lol I am so I can say it ;)

@romangeneral23 5 месяцев назад

Rust sucks. Zig is better

@TravisMedia 5 месяцев назад

Yeah? I’m not very familiar with Zig

@flogginga_dead_horse4022 5 месяцев назад

It's not even considered Production ready but sure... and how many libraries are available? Maybe in a few years it will be

@steveoc64 4 месяца назад

@@flogginga_dead_horse4022 every existing C library is also a Zig library

@dmitriidemenev5258 Месяц назад

Do you have any arguments for your claim?

@theintjengineer 5 месяцев назад

Any C++ Professional SWE will laugh at this. But hey, people also believed Covid, so, whatever these "big names" say, people will believe and follow like sheep. Anyways. All the Engineers here are Professional C++ Engineers, but we all know our fair share of Rust, and still, we just use it for small stuff. Some parsing, Networking, Unit Testing, etc. Our big Projects are all C++ Projects and that will remain so, especially now that we have everything in C++20+. Rust would simply not make it. We have tried. But when it comes to enterprise-level applications, it's just a hell. Also, those problems mentioned in the video? That's so easy to avoid. But sure, everyone will have a particular opinion. I don't listen to those 'experts'. Expert Scientists at University also told me that Consciousness was a function of the brain. They also told me that men came from apes. So, what do they know?!!

@flogginga_dead_horse4022 5 месяцев назад

You had me at Covid, you a flat earther and climate denier too? COVID happened and C++ is still buggy. Oh and also you are just barely smarter than an ape it seems. Wow, dark ages brain.

@devon9374 5 месяцев назад

😂😂😂