Cycling Truth Carbon VS Steel THE FACTS! 

steel can be fixed EASY and permanently!

At one point you're right. It makes a lot more sense to lose excess body weight before investing in lighter frames. It's much cheaper and healthier. And you'll be faster.

Harley I totally agree that average riders would have a hard time justifying carbon on the weight and cost factor alone. There are definitely some benefits in the transfer of power on a carbon frame due to the stiffness that can be achieved over steel or alloy. I'm 90Kg and in a sprint there's no comparison in power transfer with a steel or alloy bike. Also, as you eloquently pointed out, carbon has some cons due to the potential for crushing or cracking. However, having had some fun beating up several retired carbon frames, I can tell you that carbon is not as fragile as one might think. Taking a hammer to the frame shows they can be very resilient and somewhat stubborn when trying to break a frame in half. Be careful with your carbon but don't be so afraid as to miss out on some of the benefits of carbon.

I used to have steel frames, and I loved them but then I rode on AL frames for almost a decade, but somehow I did not liked it. It was way too harsh and bumpy for me. Now I ride on steel again : cromo gravel frame with carbon fork and I have to admit I would never ever go back to aluminum. If you are not want to use the bike for competitions I recommend the steel! An aluminum frame will never absorb the shocks even with a 700x45 tires likes my modern steel frame does with a 35mm wide tire.

I have a Reynolds steel bike, I know some people use 4130 cromoly, but Reynolds is the best, if you can afford it. 853 or 953

The flaw in Durian’s comments on steel frames is that it’s not like steel tubing manufacturers have sat around and done nothing since the 80’s. Everything he said by comparison would be just as true if he was comparing Columbus SL to Reynolds 953 steel. This doesn’t include the top HSS and AHSS steels developed for the auto industry. Pilot level production of hydroformed AHSS bike frames weighing 900g have been made. People get to hung up on frame materials and bike weight. There is so much more that goes into making a top quality road bike than the materials the frame is made from.

I'll spend my money on steel bikes any day. I never felt safe on carbon, maybe because I've had to many parts break. I went for the Controltech Timania Bars, Stem and Seatpost which was about $900 US total but I feel safe.

Carbon has the edge because it can be manipulated in a million ways to construct a master piece but Construction, material quality and fit matters most and steel, aluminum as well as carbon make great performance machines; each one outside it’s inherent weaknesses!

I can appreciate your point about body weight

I have a steel drop bar bike for 2 tracks and heavy gravel riding but I think a nice well made carbon bike is the best for a touring , endurance, light gravel ... anything where comfort and long time on saddle is where they shine ... other than racing of course

LOVE MY 17kg STEELY bianchi FOREVER. i can MANHANDLE it without worry and great for cruisin. GIT ON IT!

Take your time , bikes will come thru your life like this

I have a carbon bike, trek domane 2013 model

Miss your heart man. You are the manifestation of freedom. Much love back to you.

Great video! Love carbon. There is difference between carbon bicycles. Some are fragile but very light. Other are durable, and more versatile, ex. touring, every day riding, for Cross, but little havier (same weight aluminium bicycles). Go Trek Emonda ALR if you want lightweight aluminium bicycle.

Gonna build my 1st roadbike and it will be a steel frame.

Train with steel race with carbon. Is that a good idea?

That Serotta is GORGEOUS!

Supersix Evo 2016.£500. Buy second-hand. So many bargains!

520 retro race bikes all day long on Alibaba for under 800 bucks, and better than the originals. Just search retro road bike.

26 bikes? Jesus.. I thought my 8 or so was too much

The TRUTH is titanium is the best. Buy once and you are done.

Rambling

I’m over 90 kilos but 6’4”... I ride a steel with a carbon fork as well as a carbon road bike. Me under 200 lbs (I’m 205) is pretty unhealthy.. I think your videos are entertaining but I think that part was a bit stretched? Per usual though haha

Stupid video is almost all sponsor, this guy just rambles on and on... The video could have been a minute long, starts at 0:45 end at 2:08.

*is John Rose on steroids*

Raleigh all the way.

You were talking about going vegan years back and people would laugh at you and mock you Harley. Today you see big celebrities and world class athletes going vegan because of the health benefits who is laughing now mate.

I'm a 90 kilo carbamboo rider.

I love my masi carbon bike its light as a feather and fast af.

Hey looking to replace the rings on my Dura-ace9000 cranks, how do those rings on the Giant perform compared to OE chainrings? Thanks

The advertisement before your video was the stupidest shit i have ever seen. The lady was saying that bread and pasta is the cause of arthritis 😂😂😂

the bikes by themselves? A well designed bike is a well designed bike. Material? Who cares, if it is well designed. BUT the rider who is in better shape and is well trained, and we have well designed machines for both? UNLESS there is a glaring design difference, your fit rider is going to have a ball

I will always choose steel.

Where are you in Laos?. I am just in Vietnam thinking to meet up

What is wrong with you? I’m freaking out over the spider! 😝

Is that water running below the rail to the left that I can hear, but it doesnt look as if it is moving.

Ok the spider was super creepy kool.....nice video

Is that Morialta falls park？

Harley have you ever tried titanium? I've always been curious about it

what about Aluminum?, I have a caad12 and happy with the bike!

Is that spider real??????

Very good video

durianrider = vegan goose nirvana.

cool vid n funny at end

We are here for her, lets be honest.

carbon is a bolox

Is the girl for sale too mate?