That's a fallacy, two things that work well independently does not mean it will work well together. It's called a false equivalence . That's like mixing bleach and vinegar together because they both work successfully independently, so they must work perfectly together.
So if cymatics is leeching off us with bad intentions can’t we leech off him with good intentions (to help the producer community) for example using his content strategy and business moves to come up and actually give back to the community
Help me Devon and Pensados Place is were you really elevate your game at. Only watch Producergrind when a good producer is on like Toomp but I do like TB and the other host are cool too.
After doing sales for years you can tell 90% of us producers can’t separate the business from moral ethics. Sometimes they contradict and you gotta do shit to make the sale it’s just the game frfr
Idk what all is going on but I'm glad you're covering this, This is not a good look for the culture, no matter which way you put it! All money ain't good money. Way to many legends have been on that show. 10 years from now the views will have 10x on so many of those videos it's crazy to think about.
Man tb I started taking the backseat to busy work videos. Tutorial is pure art!!! 🖼️ and I went to Eng school and certified. What I mean is I need to pay busy!! 🤑
What’s interesting to me is, the very clear line between Music & Business. More importantly the lack of interest in the opposite side. Nevertheless Sustainability always levels the playing field and highlights the necessity of Self Empowerment. At least to those with weak stomachs. 🌪️🤢
I do not know if Cymatics and ProducerGrind will work well together. Best case scenario, they merge or they work well together. Worst case scenario, it becomes a problem for the music producer community.
Aye the videos definitely help sell the kits lol it all works together. Almost had a heart attack thinking the Cymatics buying PG was a bad thing lol. As long as things don’t change. Keep the interviews and all the 100% royalty free kits for the producer community. Then I don’t have a reason to worry.
I mean, what is there to talk about? Cymatics is successful at what they do, to be successful in this space you have to be able to provide quality. Producergrind is successful at what they do, to be successful in this space you have to be able to provide quality. So what does that equal? Exactly.
I can't entirely agree because this is also speculative 3rd hand information the bigger picture is the business side and how Cymatics handles in-house stuff TB never dealt with the day-to-day business operations he's going off what he personally experienced not what the CEO or C-suite had going on I think this doesn't really hurt his claim (Busyworks) to think the way Steven took over producergrind was bs and why the vibe around it is leaving a lot of us with a bad taste the overall consensus here is this can hurt more because of the lack of real community and outreach for the Hip-Hop, Trap, Rap, and RnB producers out there sometimes money over community is why business really fail
@@JRKEYS busy was quick to tell us how he feels, instead of hitting up TB and ask things like , why did you guys stop having top prod interviews after Steven Cymatics, or how does the sell help producer grind reach it's goals as a Pilar for the "culture" or industry. He went straight shooting blunks at Steven. And TB responded and told him to put the beef he has with Steven and Barry it at the ocean in "bikini bottom"
@@Mark_Ravem TB was an employee, not an executive Steven is a srud businessman who knows what he's doing genius mind you however that shit can burn bridges, and Busy peeped game which I also see and I would agree 90% with Busy... Busy can also express himself about Steven business owner to the business owner They had a close relationship until Busy saw him for what he was yes some of Busy's speculations were somewhat wrong I mean we really don't know to tell the former CEO from PG comes forward with his thoughts but TB is also speculating himself because he's a 3rd party in all of this
@@JRKEYSany member of PG has a bigger can come and clear the air about what busy was saying. Anyways, TB mentioned something about what the deal with steve will bring to Producer Grind. From the sounds of it, the move is a plus to the PG team.
@@Mark_Ravem Really time is going to be the truth-teller here I hope that they don't fuck this stuff up Steven has always rubbed me the wrong way like a Jeff Bezos lol but like I said time will only tell
32:17 bruh aint nothin wrong with buying a masterclass, that’s a form of investment towards yourself, me personally I’ve never purchased a music masterclass but if I was to get into something such as investing or real estate, best believe I’m gettin a masterclass, you either spend the years and money learning yourself or talk to a PROFESSIONAL about how u should go about it. So nothing wrong with masterclasses for anyone who be hatin on that
Cymatics deleted the video coz you where expressing hate and jealousy towards Steven. I knew that you are jealousy and that you hate Steve coz you made a comment saying that their "stupid sample packs". The producer community loves Cymatics you saying that their packs are stupid , the packs that we love, is an insult to all of us. After watching the previous live stream I noticed that you make conclusions and assumptions of what you think will happen based on how you want it to happen and based on your hate for Steve. It's sad
Of course lol you can’t copyright drums. The loops can be copywritten though. Thats why you only use royalty free loops. Check out Looperman, And Splice
Drum one shots are generally royalty free. Drum breaks have trigger copyright claims on RU-vid before, but drums are different than melody loops. Unless it's a famous drum break
Ngl cymatics isn’t all that good I remember buying a sound kit from them and I could hear clicks on the playback so I had to fade out some of the sounds.
