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Cyr Wheel - 4K (Sony FS5 & Atomos Ninja Assassin test) 

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"Crystallize" by Lindsey Stirling
Cyr Wheel - Zoré Espana
D.P. - Michael Tushaus
Shot on the Sony PXW-FS5
18-105mm Sony lens
S-Log 3 Gamut Cine
All shots recorded to the Atomos Ninja Assassin
Apple ProRes 422HQ, 23.98, 59.94, 120, 240fps
Color graded in FilmConvert
This was a test shoot at my local park shooting my girlfriend's niece, Zoré, on her Cyr Wheel practicing her upcoming act. I just bought the Atomos Ninja Assassin and wanted to see how it would play with my Sony FS5 and it's HDMI output with S-Log 3.
I was overall pleased. The 8bit 4:2:2 signal, especially for 4K had a noticeable difference in post. It had a bit more depth in the resolution and color. I recorded to ProRes 422HQ for all frame rates. I set it up so that it would record both internally as well as triggering the Atomos externally to record. I had to set up the FS5 so that the External Ouput was selected in the Rec Out menu so that it would send the 4K signal to the Atomos.
A few things I learned. 1) Even when you send the video signal externally, though you do lose the picture on the Sony LCD monitor, it does maintain displaying your info such as histogram, batt level, f-stop, etc. All the data is still displayed, just no video while recording 4K internally and sending externally.
2) The Atomos will record your 1080p 120 & 240fps footage! Well, in a certain way. It was an interesting discovery. When recording internally, the camera creates a buffer and then internally records the buffer. However, when you are also triggering an external recorder such as the Atomos, the FS5 will trigger your Atomos to record the buffer playback as well. So, what you get is 120 or 240fps recorded externally at timebase 59.94fps. But this still allows you to then go into post and slow these shots to 120 or 240 by taking the 59.94fps clip and slowing it to 50% if it was natively in a timebase of 29.97 or 40% if at 23.98. It's a little weird because it is recording a 120 or 240fps playback at that rate from the camera, but is recorded at a timebase of 59.94fps, thus the needing to slow down the footage in post. So, technically, you get the same clean feed to your Atomos as you would get recorded internally to the SD's.
By recording the buffer externally to ProRes 422HQ, the recording of that buffer footage, I thought originally was noticeably better. Upon further & more detailed review, the differences were so slight that I don't think they are noticeable to the eye unless you zoom in 400% You maybe notice a bit more detail in the ProRes footage, but you will also notice a slight bit more noise in that detail. This is likely because the XAVC-L internal codec applies noise reduction to the footage, where the external signal does not. It's a slight difference at best. Something to note if you are considering an Atomos, and wondering if you can get those higher frame rates, and if it's worth it. After seeing the differences, I think it's worth it overall to get it so you gain more out of your 4K footage, but it's pretty much a wash for high frame rates. However, the other advantage is having ProRes, which is typically much easier to edit natively in your NLE. The biggest advantage will be yet to come when Sony releases the Raw update and you will be able to record 10bit ProRes coming out of the SDI port--which means a Shogun, Shogun Flame, or Shogun Inferno will be the best fit for this camera for the budget. You can go the extra mile and be able to record full Raw in addition to ProRes onto the Convergent Design's Odyssey 7Q+, but it will cost an additional $1000 just for the Raw license in addition to the $1700 price tag for the monitor.
With that said, the camera still has its flaws especially in 240fps. You'll see more grain and moiré in the chain link fence in the back. The grain can be denoised, but the moiré is pretty noticeable. Slog 3 might be too much for 8bit, though. That is just a fact with this camera at these frame rates. Also, I have noticed in multiple shoots that when shooting in 120 or 240fps, and have the ND engaged, there are some weird edge artifacts that happen. This is with the 1.11 firmware as well. I think this is a different problem altogether and may have something to do with high contrast areas, like daylight sky vs. your subject when in high frame rates and possibly because the ND is on as well.
Overall, having this combo of the FS5 with the Atomos Ninja Assassin is a slight noticeable improvement. And even if I am only needing to record internally, I would still have the Atomos as an on-camera monitor. It has some very useful tools that make your life easier. In addition to the 7" 1920 x 1200 touchscreen, the waveform monitor, loadable Luts, peaking and false color make it completely worth having even besides it as an external recorder. It's a full-on pro monitor.

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@kdlflyballer8977
@kdlflyballer8977 6 лет назад
Just don't understand why this video has not hit well over 1 million views yet. Great video, very artistic. Performance is mesmerizing, very talented young lady! Lover the music as well. Great job by everyone. Thank you for sharing all your information.
@ironleader3169
@ironleader3169 4 года назад
Simply perfect! WOW!
@gingerfilm_latin
@gingerfilm_latin 8 лет назад
I love it! The footage and especially Zoré`s performance
@Pete_R63
@Pete_R63 4 года назад
Beautiful, my Cyr wheel arrived yesterday. I am trying to find a good surface to train on.
@melosel6793
@melosel6793 2 года назад
Ben in our our pachama our
@VIDEOARTofficial
@VIDEOARTofficial 8 лет назад
perfect,brawo
@alanlecompte5716
@alanlecompte5716 8 лет назад
awesome i hope to be as good as you one day.thanks for the video ;)
@melosel6793
@melosel6793 2 года назад
Our rour our
@wijdanbgr2471
@wijdanbgr2471 6 лет назад
Wooow 😍😍
@morenaschnack2461
@morenaschnack2461 8 лет назад
hello , what is the name of this girl? has made other videos cyr wheel?
@heno7960
@heno7960 5 лет назад
i want learn like this
@dylans8595
@dylans8595 5 лет назад
Hey! I am going to get a wheel but cannot decide if i should get it 3 or 5 inches bigger than my height! I am 5'11" or 180 cm! Should i get a 74 (188cm) or a 76 (193cm)? Or somewhere in between? what are the perks of both? Thanks!
@Xuelauj
@Xuelauj Год назад
Name of song?
@baqdrop
@baqdrop 8 лет назад
Hey Michael, nice footage. Just wondering, can the Assassin record HD @ 10 bit from the fs5?.. if yes, then up to what frame rates? Cheers
@DigisphereProductions
@DigisphereProductions 8 лет назад
The Assassin is capable of 10bit ProRes 422. However, the HDMI signal from the FS5 is only 8bit. Not sure that will change with any updates either, even though there are some reports that it should be 10 bit capable. The focus will be in the SDI output in the new FSRAW update, so it would be better to go with a Shogun, Shogun Flame or Shogun Inferno. The Inferno will be able to go 10bit ProRes 4K 60p, and 1080p 240fps continuous, and can record a 4 second buffer burst of 4K at 120fps. Currently the Assassin can only record from the FS5 8 bit 422 4K at 30p and 1080 at 60p, however can also record the hfr burst buffers of 120 and 240fps in timebase of 60p as well.
@kipling1957
@kipling1957 8 лет назад
What is the advantage of the ninja with the FS5? Thanks.
@DigisphereProductions
@DigisphereProductions 8 лет назад
+kipling1957 Ninja Assassin allows you to record 4K at 8bit 4:2:2 via ProResHQ, a better Intra-frame codec, vs. internally at 8bit 4:2:0 in XAVC-L which is a more compressed long-gop codec.
@kipling1957
@kipling1957 8 лет назад
+Michael Tushaus Cheers, Michael. I so wish that would be 10-bit 4K out. Love the movie by the way. And what a talented performer she is!
@DigisphereProductions
@DigisphereProductions 8 лет назад
+kipling1957 I very much agree. I've echoed that sentiment of yours and many others out there and sent my feedback to Sony. Hopefully they'll get the message and include it in a firmware update. Even the Panasonic GH4 does 10bit 4:2:2 in 4K via HDMI. I can't believe they wouldn't be able to accommodate such a request for us. Let's hope they get it squared away.
@CgroomMedia
@CgroomMedia 8 лет назад
Hey man, you have an email I can contact you at? I have an fs5, and have a few questions regarding the assassin with the fs5
@DigisphereProductions
@DigisphereProductions 8 лет назад
digisphere@mac.com. I'm on a shoot tomorrow but I'll answer as soon as I'm available. 👍
@JOBLESSGENTLEMANSJOURNEY
@JOBLESSGENTLEMANSJOURNEY 8 лет назад
hey i have a few questions..i just recieved my fs5 and the atomos inferno..i'm running the newest firmware 2.0 and i also have the raw upgrade..upon the release of the inferno i understand that there are some high frame rate features that will be added in an update roughly a month from now..so my question is..what high frame rates are availiable as of right now because i have tried the 1080p 2k and 4k s&q slow motion and either the atomos becomes pink and grainy fuzz or when i trigger from the camera footage only records when i have a memory card installed "also it seems i can only trigger s&q slow motion from the fs5 only" regular 1080p recording triggers from the atomos no problem"..or do i record 4k 59.94p to the atomos and apply slow motion in post to achieve the slow motion result?..also do i have to mount the fs5 lcd to my ronin m to see all of the menus when going out to the external..because i see a limited menu displayed on the atomos when i hit the thumbnail button on the fs5. again i am new to both systems so i am still learning any advice would really help. I'm outputting to the inferno via sdi also.
@kalemiti333
@kalemiti333 5 лет назад
why did everyone exaggerates talents of the performer? i think because everyone is impressed b the talent and soul of the video maker. cause, performer is beginner level. and she didn't even show any attention and respect to herself and the video maker with her overall look, hygiene and mimics.
@lauraschurr1412
@lauraschurr1412 6 лет назад
she is incredible - and i like your footage -,i feel 100 men would like to impregnate her - hope she gets a good long chance at being independant and doing her art - a wonderful artist - peace
@indieflare
@indieflare 8 лет назад
Great video man! We just got our Fs5 looking to shoot a music video this upcoming weekend with it.
@psocretes8183
@psocretes8183 6 лет назад
This is the best I've seen so far. You even have some unique moves that I haven't seen anyone else do yet. Thank you.
@Pete_R63
@Pete_R63 4 года назад
I noticed some moves I haven't seen either.
@charliebeck84
@charliebeck84 8 лет назад
so good!
@shrutibagde573
@shrutibagde573 2 года назад
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