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D&D Story: Too many betrayals! 

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I got another Dungeons and Dragons Story from my campaign. The players added a new party member to the group-Claire, who was a bit too innocent and naive, as well as a few startling revelations the players had towards the end of the campaign.
End music is: "Et Viola" by Chris Haugen from the RU-vid Audio Library.

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@swiss6754
@swiss6754 4 года назад
The players: *Gets betrayed for the 8th time* Somewhere in the distance: *"I waaarned yoou!"*
@jonathanstroupe2706
@jonathanstroupe2706 4 года назад
100% just said that out loud.
@mr.eeggbert1340
@mr.eeggbert1340 4 года назад
I love the sword
@dynamicworlds1
@dynamicworlds1 4 года назад
I'm confused. The players decided to trust an NPC because they had been betrayed by 8 NPCs in the last 2 sessions? Am I understanding that correctly?
@aguyhere7945
@aguyhere7945 4 года назад
@@dynamicworlds1 In this case that's actually just basic espionage. Once you've IDed a spy it's actually pretty profitable to let them keep spying so you can use them to send false info back to whomever they're spying for. Just knowing what info they're after can be a huge advantage because then you can make sure they only get the info you want them to have. Like false plans and the like.
@dynamicworlds1
@dynamicworlds1 4 года назад
@@aguyhere7945 sure, if what they are after is simply info. I distinctly remember a game I played in where my party let someone out of a cell and they charmed 2 of the party and pitted us against each other (almost resulting in a 3rd party member's death).
@ewr7291
@ewr7291 4 года назад
Modrons being confused about how something was stolen when the rules clearly state that can’t happen is a fantastic idea!
@schwarzerritter5724
@schwarzerritter5724 4 года назад
The round ones are not exactly build for thinking.
@bestaround3323
@bestaround3323 4 года назад
I want to use that at some point
@SMunro
@SMunro 4 года назад
Reasons something is not stolen: 1. Document is being borrowed. 2. Damaged and taken for repair. 3. Dirty and in need of cleaning. 4. In need of document verification. 5. Moved to new pedestal. 6. Undergoing Duplication. 7. Owner came by to collect it. 8. Writer is adding addendums. 9. Taken to document shredder. 10. Roll again twice ignoring results of 10.
@DuskyPredator
@DuskyPredator 4 года назад
I could see the lower ones being fooled in those humorous ways, because they are pretty simple, which is why they need to take things up the chain of command. My understanding is that Modrons are like machines (computers) in working on a very yes or no basis, with the higher they are being the more complex amounts of logic they can process. The lowest I guess thinking there is no problem, because there being a problem should be impossible.
@ILikePi31415926535
@ILikePi31415926535 4 года назад
@@SMunro Rolls 10 Proceeds to roll 2 and 9 "Yes, of course. The document is missing because it is currently undergoing repairs. After which it will promptly be shredded." It's due for shredding, but one cannot simply ignore a damaged item. One must always follow proper procedure.
@MrDevin1125
@MrDevin1125 4 года назад
I always forget about the flying whale until I see it flapping it's little fins lol
@tomfranck8821
@tomfranck8821 4 года назад
Did we ever learn where he came from? Because i'm pretty sure we didn't
@TheDalaiLigma
@TheDalaiLigma 4 года назад
IIRC it's their pet aboleth
@pitui1987
@pitui1987 4 года назад
I believe that Ben said on one of the animator collab videos that it had a very boring backstory. His brother had a magic sack he could pull animals out of, and wanted a whale. Not sure which of them decided the whale could fly but it had something to do with his brother always saying the whale had been with them on an adventure the whole time, and he just never mentioned it.
@fafikommander1903
@fafikommander1903 3 года назад
It's soo cute
@arcticturtlegaming
@arcticturtlegaming 3 года назад
Same
@chadnorris8257
@chadnorris8257 4 года назад
"Oogway betrayed us!" Maybe because you kept calling him Oogway, instead of Tortle Gandalf.
@absolutepineapple4115
@absolutepineapple4115 4 года назад
Tortalf the Green. Emperor Darth Tortal. Dark lord Tortamort.
@samzillabuddy3250
@samzillabuddy3250 4 года назад
What was oogway real name
@jellynamedsamiiripi2928
@jellynamedsamiiripi2928 4 года назад
Or the whole turtle “friend” thing
@panther2906
@panther2906 3 года назад
@@jellynamedsamiiripi2928 they did that to themselves
@progamer_-il9jx
@progamer_-il9jx 3 года назад
You do know that oogway is from kung fu panda right?
@emc246
@emc246 4 года назад
>Angel offers to help players >sends Tiefling NPC to join party Seems legit.
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 4 года назад
Why it wouldn't?
@emc246
@emc246 4 года назад
@@TheRezro Because Tieflings are generally seen as demonic and untrustworthy, especially by powerful creatures like angels. So an angel sending a demon child to help the party is suspicious.
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 4 года назад
@@emc246 And why literally everything in the medieval fantasy wouldn't be that?
@SpectralKnight
@SpectralKnight 4 года назад
Well they are human with a smidge of fiend in them. That said he could just not be an asshole to someone because they were born different. Or maybe her great-grandma was tricked by incubus or something
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 4 года назад
SpectralKnight but he hates hell
@NuclearSavety
@NuclearSavety 4 года назад
Turtle "friends"? .. werent it the turtle fu....
@princeofddr
@princeofddr 4 года назад
Turtle FRIENDS!
@danielcharland1374
@danielcharland1374 4 года назад
The turtle molesters actually. He clarified it in one of those PAX videos a while back.
@patriousthefallenknight3185
@patriousthefallenknight3185 4 года назад
Ah yes the Turtle fu- FRIENDS who dosnt know about Friends of turtles
@Medaumplay3
@Medaumplay3 4 года назад
Are they turtle friends or turtle f***ers? Ben: Yes.
@gran9773
@gran9773 4 года назад
@@princeofddr Ah yes. Who hasnt heard of the Turtle F-*coff* *coff* sorry my throat. Anyways- oh look at that! The video is over, good bye!
@zigzaghyena
@zigzaghyena 4 года назад
"I hate my players as much as the next DM..." - Ben, 2019.
@xdevantx5870
@xdevantx5870 4 года назад
Every DM who heard those words, nodded in understanding.
@W1Z25
@W1Z25 4 года назад
@@xdevantx5870 can confirm i did nod
@penguin8677
@penguin8677 4 года назад
^
@budgroeng5115
@budgroeng5115 4 года назад
I mean he isn't wrong
@davidtucker9498
@davidtucker9498 3 года назад
I hate them so much I'm running Curse of Strahd!
@lilith1544
@lilith1544 4 года назад
That moment when you're about to be killed by Tiamaat so you send your mysterious fey girlfriend one last call on your sending stone... ...Then Tiamaat's sending stone rings...
@ragglerock2682
@ragglerock2682 4 года назад
and i oop.
@MrX-pi5hv
@MrX-pi5hv 4 года назад
Lol
@SmartCatDad
@SmartCatDad 4 года назад
Strawberri Windyfoot? You didn't have to pretend with me? I'm not species-ist.
@wellwoven2457
@wellwoven2457 4 года назад
oof
@bloodstoneore4630
@bloodstoneore4630 4 года назад
It's only a bad thing if you're a coward or not a bard
@schwarzerritter5724
@schwarzerritter5724 4 года назад
That explains why your party was so suspicious of Ottie Otterton.
@MrMcMusicfeeling
@MrMcMusicfeeling 4 года назад
XD That would also explain why they now take him everywhere its the only npc the party knows is legit not evil XD At the rate they save the world and Ottie does his things he will rule the rule from his boat he already owns all the trade routes at the end of one o his campains
@skyblade7438
@skyblade7438 4 года назад
"D&D: Too Many Betrayals" That's a weird way to spell Vampire: The Masquerade.
@barrybend7189
@barrybend7189 4 года назад
Or Battletech when playing all Clanner parties or have a Kuritan, or Comstar, or Steiner.
@seantaylor6339
@seantaylor6339 4 года назад
Or Shadowrun just Shadowrun.
@nutjob9062
@nutjob9062 4 года назад
​@@seantaylor6339 this deserves more attention.
@Nyghtking
@Nyghtking 4 года назад
I'm familiar with that, ever campaign I played in of that ended with a player killing everyone else.
@MasterZebulin
@MasterZebulin 4 года назад
@@seantaylor6339 Fucking dragons.
@isapo6694
@isapo6694 4 года назад
“Every one of Ben’s NPCs are evil!” Ben: “What do you mean every NPC is evil?” “Wallace....”
@Pablo360able
@Pablo360able 4 года назад
that wasn't even his npc, that was from a module
@TheInsider15
@TheInsider15 4 года назад
@@Pablo360able I disagree...it was Ben's own version of Wallace, since not all DMs run the same kind of character the same in modules
@amyliaclenny1866
@amyliaclenny1866 4 года назад
I thought Wallace was just incompetent.
@agsilverradio2225
@agsilverradio2225 4 года назад
Walice isn't evil. Incompitent, and willing to steal credit, but not evil.
@TheInsider15
@TheInsider15 4 года назад
@@agsilverradio2225 That's Ben's version though
@axolotlentertainment9155
@axolotlentertainment9155 4 года назад
"Hes The Bad Guy Isnt He?" How To Ruin A Perfectly Good Story 101 W/ The Turtle Friends
@williamvalorious4403
@williamvalorious4403 4 года назад
I mean puffin set him self up for that
@lolface_9363
@lolface_9363 4 года назад
“Friends”
@gran9773
@gran9773 4 года назад
@@williamvalorious4403 yes. Yes he did. But never you underestimate the turtle f- HOLY $H!T IS THAT THE YELLOW 'NO MONEY FOR YOU' DUCK?!
@swiss6754
@swiss6754 4 года назад
You mean the turtle fu-
@KasaiBuru
@KasaiBuru 4 года назад
I mean his name is Gavriel which is kinda like Gabriel who is Satan who was cast down from heaven to hell
@TheDefectiveAI
@TheDefectiveAI 4 года назад
"Every single one of Ben's NPC's is evil" The moment when none of the party trusts any NPC you create is the moment when you should dial it back.
@SairinEarthsea
@SairinEarthsea 4 года назад
Or make one that actually helps but they don't trust them which leads to them getting in even worse situations.
@TheDefectiveAI
@TheDefectiveAI 4 года назад
@@SairinEarthsea Now here's where I made a mistake, I tried doing that but because I screwed up, my players one time believed it was an enemy trying to ambush them and so they killed them right off the bat (which wasn't hard because they were a commoner so a stiff breeze could've KO'd them) That was with a short term npc with no actual plot relevance outside of a momentary incident. With npc's that have some plot relevance (they'll be in the game longer than one session if the party doesn't axe them), the party then plots their demise believing them to be scheming up the parties downfall.
@Thetalkingblanket
@Thetalkingblanket 4 года назад
Everyone having evil NPCs and all the NPCs I'm always dealing with in games I'm in are just assholes or trying to sell me something
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 4 года назад
@@TheDefectiveAI I though it is what is known as proper script and rational player behavior. So I'm not sure what you problem is?
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 4 года назад
@@Thetalkingblanket Yes, that is what we call realism.
@00blaat00
@00blaat00 4 года назад
* Listing off 8 betrayals * "They were back to back in two sessions!" I died laughing.
@pickyphysicsstudent201
@pickyphysicsstudent201 4 года назад
I've noticed that a lot of your betrayals have a common issue of your PCs figuring out who the obligatory turncoat betrayer is going to be just from them saying hello in a way which seems just conspicuously nice enough for it to make for an interesting twist later on.
@garr_inc
@garr_inc 4 года назад
Why does Physics Student have a psychology expert as his avatar picture?
@pickyphysicsstudent201
@pickyphysicsstudent201 4 года назад
@@garr_inc It's a long story.
@garr_inc
@garr_inc 4 года назад
By the way... Why is Athena the Phantom?
@robweb2928
@robweb2928 4 года назад
Because he probably gives what he thinks is a little "hint" but it's glaringly obvious. That or he only has traitors be nice to the party right off the bat.
@samuelsilbory6672
@samuelsilbory6672 4 года назад
The was at one point with my ld group for years. Any time an NPC said "Greetings Gentlemen" or was otherwise polite to they were convinced he was a bad. Ironically if an NPC was just mildly an asshole or trying to lowball them on reward they weren't too paranoid.
@shadyaura4437
@shadyaura4437 4 года назад
“IVE GOT A STICK UP MEH ASS” I can’t believe how accurate he is representing Gabriel. It’s like he has the Actor feat!
@EzekiesAcheron
@EzekiesAcheron 4 года назад
heheheeheheheehhh
@bluefrog5056
@bluefrog5056 4 года назад
It’s gonna take, like, three weeks to get it out
@shadyaura4437
@shadyaura4437 4 года назад
We have that problem sometimes.
@Accrovideogames
@Accrovideogames 4 года назад
It's Gavriel, not Gabriel.
@shadyaura4437
@shadyaura4437 4 года назад
Accrovideogames never noticed.
@dmonicplays8374
@dmonicplays8374 3 года назад
Players impersonating the bad guy: "I'm going to be busy for a while. I've got a TREMENDOUS stick up my ass, and it's gonna take me two, maybe three weeks to get it out!" I literally busted a gut
@samualwatkins
@samualwatkins 4 года назад
Here is Claire We immediately love her and adopt this adorable fan girl Tiefling.
@Anaris10
@Anaris10 4 года назад
Our Druid got permanently whacked two weeks ago and has been replaced by a Cleric named Claire as we're about to enter the DemonWeb!...hmmm.
@GCWeber
@GCWeber 4 года назад
"Roll deception" "6" "She believes you!"
@bobbobson110
@bobbobson110 4 года назад
She's probably really gullible.
@GCWeber
@GCWeber 4 года назад
@@bobbobson110 I get that, it's just really funny
@fdimension
@fdimension 4 года назад
@@bobbobson110 Maybe, but she also probably idolizes them.
@clericofchaos1
@clericofchaos1 4 года назад
You left out Otty Otterton, who has been the real evil mastermind of your entire world from day one!
@danielf.7151
@danielf.7151 4 года назад
Weel, that part didn't happen yet.
@clericofchaos1
@clericofchaos1 4 года назад
@@danielf.7151 or has it been happening since the dawn of creation? What if every evil act committed by everyone in the multiverse, from the tiniest stubbing of someone's toe to the most heinous of mass murders, was all a part of Otty Otterton's secret machinations?
@catfoodbob1
@catfoodbob1 4 года назад
theres a reason they made a non dm npc a good ally, cause it was not an npc the dm made to be important.
@joshuazane3210
@joshuazane3210 4 года назад
Every time a character's eyes point in different directions, I crack up. It never stops being funny to me. 😄
@TheGuardDuck
@TheGuardDuck 4 года назад
Classic Derpface!
@Medaumplay3
@Medaumplay3 4 года назад
same. gets me every time. Then again, about 75% of all acting on these videos is eye game.
@kendrickrochelanzot2053
@kendrickrochelanzot2053 4 года назад
Good ol' Wallace, the hero of parnast
@SairinEarthsea
@SairinEarthsea 4 года назад
Wallace needs the sword of warning.
@albertschoise8091
@albertschoise8091 4 года назад
Players: *have an aneurysm *
@nathanjora7627
@nathanjora7627 4 года назад
Sarin Earthsea and to tram up with abserd. Together, they can rule the land as annoying PC and NPC !
@jacobfreeman5444
@jacobfreeman5444 4 года назад
Now, you see, they wait too long to outright murder him. They should have grown a pair and killed him and *then* blamed it on whatever random thing happened. Instead they left it to the whims of fate(the dm). That was their mistake.
@spiffygonzales5899
@spiffygonzales5899 4 года назад
OAh noOoO!!! cARful for wAALlace is in gREAt dAAAnger!!!!
@the_rose_garden01
@the_rose_garden01 4 года назад
"I've got everything under control, I'm a complete tool, I know what I'm doing" -"Gavriel"
@thedocblock6421
@thedocblock6421 4 года назад
"The DEVIL!?" "In my defense, it is *The Devil.* It kinda comes with the territory."
@Nopenguin4875
@Nopenguin4875 3 года назад
That's racist add one sin CinemaSins counter sound
@aminulhussain2277
@aminulhussain2277 2 года назад
@@Nopenguin4875 The Devil, not a devil.
@oz_jones
@oz_jones 2 года назад
@@Nopenguin4875 i dont give a cinemashit
@vincentbacolor6788
@vincentbacolor6788 4 года назад
D&D can never have enough betrayals
@princeofddr
@princeofddr 4 года назад
True. *Tosses Gun away*
@generalbacon7476
@generalbacon7476 4 года назад
Tosses the Holy Hand Grenade... yep not betraying here no, none, nope.
@Mazaroth
@Mazaroth 4 года назад
"Do not trust anyone, not even yourself" google it.
@CreeperDude-cm1wv
@CreeperDude-cm1wv 4 года назад
Two betrayals
@gran9773
@gran9773 4 года назад
Hmmm.... I will betray the DM then. Once i finally find one thats willing to let me play in theire games, ofcourse.
@Team_BaM
@Team_BaM 3 года назад
DM: "Roll deception!" Elf: "Six..." DM: "She believes you." Me: Holy crap that is the sweetest, most trusting woman ever.
@SmartCatDad
@SmartCatDad 4 года назад
One of the BBEGs in the Adventure I'm running is Graz'zt. The party is now level 12 and I have probably been giving them too many encounters with Graz'zt's cultists. They have become paranoid and suspicious of any NPC described as sexy or any synonym thereof.
@albertschoise8091
@albertschoise8091 4 года назад
Why do you describe all the cultist as sexy?
@eveescastle5866
@eveescastle5866 4 года назад
@@albertschoise8091 it's a sex cult it comes with the territory
@bestaround3323
@bestaround3323 4 года назад
@@eveescastle5866 There can be nonsexy cultists.I mean wouldn't an ugly manchild or awful looking women want to join a sex cult as they couldn't get it somewhere else? I feel like you are limiting the possibilities greatly.
@mrmcawesome9746
@mrmcawesome9746 4 года назад
@@bestaround3323 They will WANT to, sure, but Graz'zt is picky af. Any ugly person that joins his cult gets sacrificed as soon as their soul is damned in a "hope you become a succubus or similarly-sexy demon" fashion. At least that's how I see it
@jacksonayres6326
@jacksonayres6326 4 года назад
My party hasn't learned that lesson yet. They're currently being "assisted" by a half-succubus that isn't making any attempt to hide the 26 cha
@emdm2220
@emdm2220 4 года назад
When you're watching critical role but you click away because PUFFIN
@CommissarMitch
@CommissarMitch 4 года назад
Litrally me. I am binging the first campaign
@SgRambo
@SgRambo 4 года назад
@@CommissarMitch Doing the same with the second!
@frankficcle7081
@frankficcle7081 4 года назад
@@SgRambo Dido, I'm about ten episodes behind.
@morlunknight884
@morlunknight884 4 года назад
@@frankficcle7081 You're in for really good time, it's gets really good in the last 4 or 5 episodes
@SgRambo
@SgRambo 4 года назад
@@frankficcle7081 I stopped watching at around episode 45 or so because school needed my time. So now I started over, I'm on episode 29 now! XD
@sebeng861
@sebeng861 4 года назад
The turtle "friends" return again!
@gran9773
@gran9773 4 года назад
It is turtle f- ANYWAYS! They soon found themselves....
@jesterssketchbook
@jesterssketchbook 4 года назад
its not "freinds"? :D
@gran9773
@gran9773 4 года назад
@@jesterssketchbook no. That is almost german. Really, 'ei' is used suprisingly often in the german lenguage. But anyways, it is turtle f- MY KNEES! WHY?! .... ....! ...... ... .... a-anyways, change the t-the 'i' i-into a 'u' and r-remove the s- 's' t-then you translated the t-team name partially into g-german.. yes.... t-thats all i wanted to s-say in the c-comment... (hospital! Now!)
@kentlindal5422
@kentlindal5422 4 года назад
When your party name lives on in infamy, even with people who don't know you
@taylorhancock5834
@taylorhancock5834 4 года назад
I just love the “Never Trust Ben’s NPC’s” rant, as that is simultaneously very much a thing I’ve noticed, and a thing that I don’t tend to get in my sessions with any of the DMs I’ve had...this is magical...great video as always PF, and I can’t wait to see more!
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 4 года назад
You mean questioning the obvious, or that you like hammy scripts?
@TriangleChloros
@TriangleChloros 4 года назад
Those modrons are the most adorable things I've ever seen. I have nothing else to add, just awwwww.
@ItsGemystic
@ItsGemystic 4 года назад
If I ever become an DM, I wish to one day make an NPC that’s overly nice and raises high suspicion of betrayal, only to find out he was just a good guy all along
@bluemew22
@bluemew22 4 года назад
"Claire was like a Wallace that everyone liked." I don't understand. That sentence is gibberish. Those words in that order make no sense together.
@sour4292
@sour4292 4 года назад
Claire is immediately my favorite NPC
@TheLiveSimmer
@TheLiveSimmer 4 года назад
Sour you’ve never met Periwinkle
@toko099o
@toko099o 4 года назад
My goal as a DM is to cause the "I betrayed you" "No, but I betrayed you" "but did you see how I undermined your plan" "I did, so I did THIS" and so on.
@matthewprince6157
@matthewprince6157 4 года назад
"I hate my players as much as the next DM" I connected with that on an emotional level.
@travisshallenberger9486
@travisshallenberger9486 4 года назад
Ha! Yeah, my players don't trust ANY NPC that travels with them. That's when I decided to pull the ULTIMATE betrayal! The creature the BBEG was trying to unleash... turned out to be A GOOD GUY!!!
@Strategistmaster
@Strategistmaster 4 года назад
*rolls a 6* ...she believes you~ Me: chokes
@Remoniq
@Remoniq 4 года назад
And from the distant you hear one voice: *I warned you!*
@Nionivek
@Nionivek 4 года назад
This is honestly one of my favorite interpretations of the Plane of Law. A place where the word of law is more important than the intent, and where a strict legalism has to be followed. So in the plane of law a sign that says "Keep off the grass" would physically prevent you from stepping on the grass, but it wouldn't stop you from casting fireball on it.
@majesticsideburns6682
@majesticsideburns6682 4 года назад
This is hilarious because angels can hear a lie when it's told
@dqflynn
@dqflynn 3 года назад
I don't laugh out loud easily, but that "I have a tremendous stick up my ass" line followed by the deadpan reaction made me laugh pretty damn hard.
@Medaumplay3
@Medaumplay3 4 года назад
turtle friends: *discovers the real villain within 5 seconds of dialogue* DM: alright, 8 betrayals it is.
@Team_Orchid
@Team_Orchid 4 года назад
Ah yes, betrayals. Or as I like to call them the seeds of murderhoboism.
@HORRIOR1
@HORRIOR1 4 года назад
Should have instead said that he had cracked his sending stone and his voice sounded weird because of it.
@deathclaws1v741
@deathclaws1v741 4 года назад
I understand when the players don’t trust you I am a dm and now all of the players are poking everything with a stick after 4 days of me as dm they made me realize that I used at least 50 mimics a day I was shocked that they kept count
@deathclaws1v741
@deathclaws1v741 4 года назад
One day I sent them to a dungeon that had 25000 mimics they ended up burning down the dungeon and blew up the ruble
@Rjciralli
@Rjciralli 4 года назад
With Mimic populations that high, i’m surprised you haven’t had the Mimics go legit-friendly just to really throw your players off.
@deathclaws1v741
@deathclaws1v741 4 года назад
Rj Ciralli they where supposed to be friendly and lead them to an adventure
@Ceece20
@Ceece20 3 года назад
Have you been teaching my DM tricks? Literally the first night in an inn of the very first session: bed is a mimic.
@Threadnaught
@Threadnaught 4 года назад
"I hate my players as much as the next DM." I keep having villains lie to the players, this leads to the players discovering that they were tricked, sent into a trap and then trying to fight their way through the trap. No matter how many characters they lose to an overwhelming encounter.
@runic3338
@runic3338 3 года назад
"I hate my players as much as the next DM" this had me going crazy
@kannonball5789
@kannonball5789 4 года назад
6:20 To the Dungeon Masters of the world, don't do this to your party. This is how Murderhoboes are created. You don't want Murderhoboes, do you?
@Charon85Onozuka
@Charon85Onozuka 4 года назад
"I hate my players just as much as the next DM." This... is more quotable than it should be.
@Audiotrocious
@Audiotrocious 4 года назад
Charon85Onozuka YUUUP!
@Shatterverse
@Shatterverse 4 года назад
Best Ben quote of 2019: "I hate my players as much as the next GM..."
@spagetclips7134
@spagetclips7134 4 года назад
Nope, it’s “I’ve got a tremendous stick up ma ass and it’s going to take a while to get it out”
@obeliskfine2254
@obeliskfine2254 4 года назад
"I hate my players as much as the next DM..." This spoke to my soul.
@alphonyt7250
@alphonyt7250 4 года назад
Ben's D&D sessions have more betrayal then a heist movie
@zakuraRabbit
@zakuraRabbit 4 года назад
Suddenly it makes so much more sense why they don't like Otterton....
@danielcharland1374
@danielcharland1374 4 года назад
Holy cow you're right! These are the same players and they're used to being constantly betrayed by everyone. No wonder they think that the most innocent-looking character is the most devious.
@aschtheconjurer
@aschtheconjurer 4 года назад
Three of my flatmates have been playing together (two players with two characters each, and DM), and the DM uses NPC betrayal as a complete crutch for *all story beats*: Apparently to the extent that every single NPC they've ever talked to has tried to kill them or steal plot items. The party's response? Warn the DM that if there's one more betrayal, they're going full on murderhobo on all NPCs and destroying the campaign. They haven't played since then, to my knowledge.
@joypomeroy1452
@joypomeroy1452 4 года назад
If they used it right, they could pretend like they had a reason for it the whole time. Like there's something that's making everyone crazy and they can sense the PCs aren't affected.
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 4 года назад
@@joypomeroy1452 You mean crazy by not having survival instinct? After all who in health mind would trust bunch of swashbucklers (including at least one warlock), who are known from living piles of corpses behind. You should immediately question everyone attempting to make business with them. D'oh!
@Halthior
@Halthior 4 года назад
That "I got a tremendous stick up my ass" line broke me. Laughing way to hard in the middle of work lol
@wonderfurret8223
@wonderfurret8223 4 года назад
Next time: The "Split Personality Aboleth" makes a return to befriend and then betray the party.
@Audiotrocious
@Audiotrocious 4 года назад
WonderFurret WHIMSY!
@wonderfurret8223
@wonderfurret8223 4 года назад
@@Audiotrocious INSIGHT CHECK!!!
@thatlycantomboy
@thatlycantomboy 4 года назад
“The players pretty quickly reasoned out that Gavriel was up to no good...” Me, quietly: did he start making trouble in the neighborhood?
@benjaminoechsli1941
@benjaminoechsli1941 6 месяцев назад
Guess we'd better call Master Chief.
@mrmacju1530
@mrmacju1530 4 года назад
I can't imagine how many Deception rolls they had to succeed to make that Sending Stone interaction possible.
@abserd1034
@abserd1034 4 года назад
OoooooOoOoOoOOOooh hello there!! I'm ready to fight the evil!!! (Thank you for your subscriptions, you are totally absurd)
@spiffygonzales5899
@spiffygonzales5899 4 года назад
oOooOH nOoo! WAtch OOUt yoU aRe in gREAt dAAanger!!!
@lampymoth6719
@lampymoth6719 4 года назад
I saw a comment that was annoyed that you commented on every video. My first though: wait, he's got more comments?! So now I'm here again.
@stormyperson44
@stormyperson44 4 года назад
"Too Many Betrayals!" Intrigue Plot DMs: HERESY!
@emberfist8347
@emberfist8347 4 года назад
*Blam*
@charleslathrop9743
@charleslathrop9743 4 года назад
"I hate my players as much as the next DM." Truer words were never spoken.
@cadonstrain6217
@cadonstrain6217 4 года назад
In DnD, all NPC should be slightly evil. In Puffin Forest's words "It comes with the territory."
@BahamutEx
@BahamutEx 4 года назад
Not really.
@Alyenbird
@Alyenbird 4 года назад
Me running a game and describing a local animal: "It's cute" My player, who is used to her *other* DM: "AGGHHH! Kill it before it kills us!" Yeah... that DM gave us trust issues. Fear not, the cute animal is okay.
@chunta957
@chunta957 3 года назад
.. except when it's not
@moonriverbaby4108
@moonriverbaby4108 4 года назад
"Whose betrayal is this?" - Southpark: Black Friday trilogy.
@noahhastings6145
@noahhastings6145 4 года назад
"Uguay: Betrayed us" I can't, I just CAN'T, imagine why he would betray the Turtle Fuc- *Censored Noises*
@lilliana1605
@lilliana1605 4 года назад
I honestly know nothing about DnD but I love this channel and the story telling, it's hilarious.😂
@schnauzebauze
@schnauzebauze 4 года назад
You are one of the few RU-vidr where i actually go back to watch all the old videos :-D You are amazing!
@eristef
@eristef 4 года назад
Oh hey wow, 8 betrayals in 2 sessions? Meanwhilst over at the jolly ol' temple my char's in, I HAVE 2 SESSIONS THAT EXTEND 2 DAYS OF WHERE NOTHING HAPPENS!8!!
@OrionTaltos
@OrionTaltos 4 года назад
It was 4 betrayals in 2 sessions. 8 in the campaign.
@moonriverbaby4108
@moonriverbaby4108 4 года назад
That's what happened in my game because two of my players were gone for a session and the other character had an exam.
@Jaxom35x
@Jaxom35x 4 года назад
"I hate my players as much as any DM.." cracked me up big time.
@christopherg2347
@christopherg2347 4 года назад
An idea to throw the players for a spin: You could make a character that is shady, but where you have not yet decided if he is good or evil. If the players asume he is evil, make him be the good guy. And their distrust causing them to fail. You know, a good ritual that has to be done in time (like a bad ritual would be). Maybe give it some ingredients that are hard to come by and spoil quickly, once aquired? Stuff like Deva Tears that varporize in the mortal realm.
@frankg2790
@frankg2790 4 года назад
So long as your plots are unpredictable enough, the players will let their guard down until the trap is sprung.
@christopherg2347
@christopherg2347 4 года назад
@Hamza Ali If they always know who is bad and who is good, it grows boring for them too. And htem always figuring them out is not exactly a motivator to spend more time writing Characters. It might even go into Metagaming, because you *only* spend such detail on the Villans wich is the real giveaway. In RPG's, it is easy to get into Feedback loops of boringness.
@princeofddr
@princeofddr 4 года назад
I’m a simple man. I see the word ‘Betrayal’ in the title for a Puffin Forest vid, I click.
@devilbowser253
@devilbowser253 4 года назад
I am simpler i see a puffin video i click
@Darkmage1293
@Darkmage1293 4 года назад
"No stealing from here on out." ...*Borrows it*
@DoABarrelRol1l
@DoABarrelRol1l 4 года назад
Well then they'd need permission to borrow so I think it checks out. But if 'borrow' doesn't imply consent in a creature's language then yes we have a problem.
@braddalrymple8615
@braddalrymple8615 4 года назад
Some days there's just nothing that can put a smile on my face quite like listening to your voice. Thank you very much
@richmcgee434
@richmcgee434 4 года назад
It's not a betrayal if they knew it was coming. We call that "Tuesday" in these parts.
@catboygremlin
@catboygremlin 4 года назад
As my party's fighter says, "Just another Tuesday in Barovia."
@phylion6067
@phylion6067 4 года назад
"They decided to do a plan." -Dungeons and Dragons in a nutshell
@kulovicz3152
@kulovicz3152 4 года назад
Alrighty, let us talk about how they discovered that the Oogway was dopplerganger.
@nestormentoso8707
@nestormentoso8707 4 года назад
I just wanted to thank you for bring me back to D&D dude, without your videos i wouldn't be DMing for my friends and they would never know about D&D
@ZinZen13
@ZinZen13 4 года назад
Uguay was a doppelganger? This is something that needs an animation. STAT!
@SoullessDCLXVI
@SoullessDCLXVI 4 года назад
2:41 Oh, man, the delivery of that line had me laughing for like ten minutes straight. Probably 'cause I kept replaying it. Shit's gold.
@honestkyn718
@honestkyn718 4 года назад
I never really was on your side...
@EzekiesAcheron
@EzekiesAcheron 4 года назад
**laughs in baguette**
@timothywhitney6307
@timothywhitney6307 4 года назад
Keep making this great content for us!!!! I love the d&d story telling of past adventures. So funny!
@ShadyDoorags
@ShadyDoorags 4 года назад
The first game I put my player through had their escort NPC betray them. From that point onward, they never trusted any NPC ever again. One of the players tried to beat up a delivery man because he was "suspicious" aka he answered a question with "i don't know."
@weevil_1457
@weevil_1457 4 года назад
No one talking about how strangely adorable this is 4:30
@Ken.Kaleidoscope
@Ken.Kaleidoscope 4 года назад
I’m surprised you guys didn’t torture Claire or use her as bait
@starkiller1289
@starkiller1289 4 года назад
Probably because she wasn't an escort mission and had some use besides "alternate target".
@GamerTowerDX
@GamerTowerDX 4 года назад
He is implying that she was actually useful
@kylepessell1350
@kylepessell1350 4 года назад
@@GamerTowerDX And innocent, while some parties might not care there are still some that do.
@troodon1096
@troodon1096 4 года назад
It's useful to keep a known spy alive because then you don't have to look for unknown spies.
@jamesblanchard8053
@jamesblanchard8053 4 месяца назад
That Sending Stone conversation must've taken over a month to complete. They have a lot of patience.
@elizabethales9350
@elizabethales9350 4 года назад
>DM Puffin admits 8 betrayals might be a little much. >Players immediately prepare for no less than 12 betrayals in next session.
@TheDrexxus
@TheDrexxus 4 года назад
"I hate my players as much as the next DM..."
@robertdowniesyndrome4577
@robertdowniesyndrome4577 4 года назад
I'm getting a team together
@clausberg8395
@clausberg8395 4 года назад
"You Son of a B****, I'm In
@robertdowniesyndrome4577
@robertdowniesyndrome4577 4 года назад
Why the fucki*g hell is this my most liked comment
@GuberShep
@GuberShep 4 года назад
Your videos haven't been in my recommended lately, despite my efforts. I love your d&d stories!
@MrGoulio
@MrGoulio 4 года назад
I missed these videos. When I first discovered this channel, I binged all the old videos and loved them all. Then I came to realize that Ben has a life and videos take time, and I was sad. But now I'm happy, because a new video has come out to ease my pain. Unless it was a betrayal all along...
@supercool1312
@supercool1312 4 года назад
angel gavriel
@OrangeyChocolate
@OrangeyChocolate 4 года назад
"Every. NPC. Is. EVIL!" So this was a Ravenloft game, right?
@emberfist8347
@emberfist8347 4 года назад
Or Shadowrun.
@JustaGuy_Gaming
@JustaGuy_Gaming 3 года назад
You know it's a bad day when your Pet Rock Betrays you.
@DetectorCliche
@DetectorCliche 4 года назад
Happy holidays Ben, and heres to even more ludicrous tales of your DMing misadventures in 2020.
@the_cone_man1465
@the_cone_man1465 4 года назад
There’s never enough tho
@robmorgan1214
@robmorgan1214 4 года назад
"I hate my players as much as the next DM." I waaaaaarned yooooou! Edit: not as original as I....umm...originally... thought...
@IAmAlgolei
@IAmAlgolei 4 года назад
I don't hate my players. I just hate their characters. So much.
@robmorgan1214
@robmorgan1214 4 года назад
@@IAmAlgolei no judgment here. It's either them or Wallace...I like Wallace he doesn't wreck my carefully designed death traps or annoy the aboleth... he blunders into them like you're supposed to and uses them as intended.
@rubenlamboo
@rubenlamboo 4 года назад
whooooo! new vid, thanx puffin for al the good content this year, kisses from the Nederlands
@bmoney2011
@bmoney2011 4 года назад
Gavriel is the multiverse's most gullible angel.
@benhenley4656
@benhenley4656 4 года назад
How could they ever have anticipated the angel was the bad guy unless they too watched Constantine, read classic literature, read every other plot suggestion on r/DMAcademy or played Diablo justtonameafew o noooo.
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