love my Concept 2 - I row 12-15k a day on it with interval training. Started off using Training Tall and Dark Horse Rowing but the best by far is the Rowalong RU-vid Channel.
I'll second that. I've been rowing my Concept2 to Rowalong since just after the first lockdown and though Shane and Austin are good I find Rowalong's training routines based around the rower's 2k time suit me much better.
I'm about to start my rowing journey as I await my C2 to be delivered and I happen upon this video. I was like dam I have an old monitor that I can use for just this setup. Thanks for the idea. All I need to do is basically buy a floor stand for my monitor.
The thing I like most about this setup, is that it’s not a rent for life product. If you travel, have an injury, or focus on a different area of fitness you aren’t being charged for it.
Thanks for making this video. I just purchased a Concept 2, which is my 1st rower. I’m super excited but was feeling a bit worried I would regret not having the engagement of the Hydro or future Peleton rower. I will certainly adopt your concept and just watch Apple Fitness & RU-vid with my noise canceling headphones. Feels good to save a ton of money while still having a high quality rower although it looks like you eventually gave in & got your Hydro! 😂
I just got my Concept 2 rower - I like it. I will row again today in a circuit weight training workout - boot camp style. I needed a day off from my first workout Friday - it kicked my sorry butt. That's a good thing.
Great video, I watched it to determine your TV screen size, thank you. I did the Hydrow app for a while and it’s fun and wonderful scenery, but i did not find the workouts as challenging as various free content out there. So your set up is perfect as a do it all option
"Where's your main tv"...time for some new friends, lol. Nice informative video. I do see a value in group training classes from home, but brother - $139 a month....that's a TON of cash over time. I see the value, but it's not worth that to me. I've got my main tv in front of my C2 rower in the garage. I can follow along with Dark Horse, Training Tall, etc, if I choose, or I can just listen to my own music with my headphones. And, aside from the Roku (a gift from before I was rowing) the tv - which I found in the trash, literally on a morning run, and the rower - I pay nothing. Motivation can be a factor for many of us - because it's fleeting! Glad you found what works for you - but you sure are paying for it! I tell myself when things get tough in the pain cave, "I don't have to do this, I get to do this!". Seems to work.
The C2 is absolutely the gold standard and the PM5 can’t be beat, however the noise would be a big issue for me in an apartment. I opted for the same water rower as shown in the Apple Fitness+ videos, it looks and sounds gorgeous. The on-device monitor isn’t as important to me as I casually row alongside AF+, so the Apple Watch provides the metrics I need.
"The PM5 can't be beat"? It's a heavily outdated crap screen included in a 1K rower. It's a joke to me tbh and many others have complained about it as well.
Really liked this video- some really good (impartial) information here, nicely presented. For me, the biggest thing is the total cost of ownership issue with subscription-based rowers. With my Concept 2 rower- granted with a very small screen (that I think really should be updated with a larger screen)- the cost of ownership is the cost of the rower itself. It’s very cost effective, and that definitely works for me and I’m sure many others. In addition, some of these high-cost subscription based rowers are fairly useless in terms of some of their features if you decide not to enable the subscription service on them. That is a huge deal for me- with manufactures basically crippling the functionality of the rower to some extent unless customers buy into their subscription model. To each his (or her) own of course… I’m just sharing a few key points on why the Concept 2 rower is the rower for me.
I have the tonal, peloton bike and just upgraded to tread plus from the tread. I was thinking of getting the peloton row however I am considering to do this setup. Have you used the new row since they released it? And if so how would you compare your peloton hack to the actual row? Seems like this is a smart financial route considering not much time is spent on the row anyway.
Interesting. Looking to set up something where I can just watch some youtube 4k wilderness type content as I row. Glad I found this video as direction.
It should be noted the the concept 2 has that Bluetooth connection so it will work will all the apps etc that are designed to accept it. This is why one should buy it.
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Another great video! I keep getting Hydrow pop Up but already have a concept 2 so ended up getting an iPad mount as an alternative. I’d recommend trying out a few apps that pull data from the pm5 Asensei - free trial EXR - in beta but has has games I use these on a iPad Pro mounted which I drop on (not as big as a 32inch screen but closer as on the mount arm)
Having rowed at university and club the concept 2 is the gold standard. It is what all records are set with and all standards set on. The issue for home fitness is you do not get that team training feel whereas training with 8 people together you do. I think as the concept 2 is so used by athletes and "serious" rowers that they will struggle to move away from just the PM monitors as the stats is all that are needed. My concern is the hydro and the peloton rower will never be taken as seriously by the rowing world (which they are not designed for anyway). So there will remain a divide. My question is can you broadcast your stats from the PM5 via bluetooth to the apple TV? I cannot imagine working out on an erg without seeing split, stroke rate etc... If so this would great in establishing middle ground and brining the Concept 2 into the connected fitness world while it still being go to for athletes.
Great points! (I’ll pin this) You’re 100% right about the differences. When I talk to my road riding friend, who uses Zwift in the winter, about my Peloton bike we only have a mild interest in each other’s set up. (No interest if we're both honest, haha!) It’s not in the video but I bought a new PM5 arm for £5 that I was able to adjust so that the PM5 sits lower (So under the TV and not in front of it) There’s also an ERG app I could also use my phone to display the data on the folded back PM5 app.
@@SteveJulien Yeah that is defiantly the case. It is why I was so hesitant about getting the Peloton at first. As I had been all about that sweet Garmin data on my road bike & from the concept 2 for rowing. I think its why im drawn to the power zone rides as well on the peloton. Also now i want to enjoy the 'doing' of my exercise rather than the 'training' element and loving the completion and racing. Peloton Rower will be in my sights if it can best the concept 2 with a tv. They will have to do something special
Sincerely asking: Why would anyone care whether their in-home rower was "taken as seriously" by the "rowing world" as the C2? If someone enjoys their Hydrow or Pelaton rower, why would it matter if "serious rowers" didn't like it? Am I missing something here?
Hi Steve, thanks for another fabulous video. Can I just ask, and it’s probably a stupid question, presumably with your set-up, you won’t get any split, speed, leaderboard details via the mobile app/Apple TV? Where do you get your TV stand from? It looks like a great set-up, especially for one that is ‘hostage’ to Peloton - me too, hence looking at this route rather than Hydrow, despite how ‘sexy’ that beast looks! :-)
Hi Toria! You won’t get the splits and speed, but I’ve improved the set up so you can, and am now using the Hydrow app (which I didn’t know existed!) Have a look at this set up as I’ve moved the TV forward and am using the Concept 2’s data for stroke rate, 500m split, speed etc. It works really well and as far as I can tell, gives you everything except the leaderboard. (mid height TV stand from Amazon) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OZ2a2NUTlMA.html
@@SteveJulien Thanks so much. I had already seen this video but thanks for pointing me in its direction again. I think I will go down the concept 2 route even though it's longer than the Hydrow I just need to find a big enough home for it - unlike yourself, I don't have a garage gym so it would have to go, I suspect, in my sitting room!
Correction please, they are not using WaterRowers, they are using FluidRower which have patented twin tank adjustable resistance. The Coach is World Champion rower Josh Crosby. Apart from that a good video ;-)
Correction please, they are not using WaterRowers, they are using Life Fitness FluidRower which have patented twin tank adjustable resistance. Apart from that a good video ;-) NB The Coach is the best out there- World Champions Gold and Silver Medalist rower Josh Crosby.
@@SteveJulien thanks for this idea. I really was thinking to buy a Hydrow wave but I was stalling because of the monthly fees. Apple fitness+ for $9.99 to cover rowing, cycling and other things is a way better deal for me for sure since I’m not a hardcore athlete. I just need to start moving to get my heart rate up and lose some weight since I sit at a desk most of my day and love to eat so you know the result of that 😂
Steve, curious what your thoughts are on this lower cost option vs the hydrow that you did end up buying. Knowing what you know now, having used the hydrow, which setup do you prefer? Does the value prop still hold up. Thanks
@@SteveJulien sorry you had to give up your tred. I have a sunny one I use with the peloton app. I would be heart broken if mine was recalled. Can you do a video on why you sent yours back and your thoughts on the recall? I had been ninja stalking your channel waiting for your thoughts.
"Make it sound like water" *throws on headphones with a water track* 🤣🤣 Mate I thought you were going to actually make it sound like water by doing some type of modification not just throwing headphones on!!! I can make it sound like Rihanna if that's the case! 🤣🤣 All in all good video mate!
I bought the Hydrow in the end but, having used it, as fabulous as it feels, it is making me feel rather seasick. I don’t know any workaround other than sending it back and going down the concept 2 route! Does anyone else on here get seasickness when rowing and if so, do you have any suggestions for remedies? I think that it is caused because the monitor is too close to my face - i’m not sure if it’s that I am watching water that’s making me sick but ………
