I think it was the ending joke that kind of killed a bit of the energy. It turned it from Napom favored to a fairly even battle which comes down to preference.
I truly love river and think he’s an incredible artist, but for me I felt like Napom won this battle no question. Totally agree that he captured the winner’s energy. He was the only one to actually make river seem nervous, and for me he brought energy that was unparalleled by any other competitor.
But then again out of the two he’s the one who repeats his beatboxing, granted it’s their styles but yeah out of the two napom repeats his lip roll but other than that it’s pretty even
@@frostbites9317 why shouldn't he use liprolls in the final? If Inertia was in the final should he then not use inward bass, or should Dilip not do zippers, colaps not do his glitch sounds? In the quarter and semi final napom used parts of his old tracks, earthquake, roll like this which he has used in previous GBBs, but in the final he did not reuse anything he has done in previous GBBs so giving him minus points for being true to his style and using liprolls is just dumb. He lost because of the last 15 seconds, he could have made a drop like he did against wing, but decided to just make some jokes and mediocre beatboxing to finish it off. That's it.
@@ZZM. Yeah of course he repeats sounds wtf are you on about, River brought many new routines and combos more than Napom did, River as well was more technical and musical than napom for me
Both of Napoms rounds were pieced together from showcase material I heard before the competion. Granted the arpeggaic technique and some of the other techniques from River i have heard similar stuff but for me it was new rounds. Napom constantly re uses material albeit in clever ways. So not sure I agree with you. Also after the competition Napoms behaviour on his live was miserable and bitter.
@@quentin-beretto-laurent6353 yes thats why he's in the final right? such a dumb overused argument, might as well use it for everyone thats been battling for 5+ years then.
W D-low always loving battle energy over musicality, he's 100% right napom should've won and how this competition is battle not a music showcase. Hella respect eitherway.
River still had battle energy second round tbf his first round was slow but the second round he was in Napoms face and doing fast complex beats and kept it the whole way through, Napom was trolling abit towards the end and killed the battle energy which is why i felt River won. Its extremely close tho. Napom is such a beast when it comes to countering its a joke.
Everything about Nape at 4:53 reminds me of the old days. The gestures, the hat, the MASSIVE liproll drop, and most of all, the energy. River's 2nd round was really impressive, but I feel like Nape deserved this one overall, so it's nice to see a lot of people agreeing with that. Plus, if he had won, it could've been an insane capstone to his career. Still a legend regardless
@HenriqueMontebello-yi4rl Good to know. That's B.S the largest source of beatboxing content with the most views and so many years of experience treats their performers/employees like this. Obviously I know it's more complex and actually has a source of the problem, but the whole idea of Swiss succumbs to that one person in the lead.
I'm glad D-Low explained about the difficulty of some of the combos here. This battle was underwhelming for me but with D-Low's explanation I can appreciate it more.
Napom is the GOAT. If anyone has followed his journey from 2013 until now, you will understand why I say that. He creates magical sounds, super difficult techniques and crazy energy. It can be said that he is a genius. He never stops fighting, maybe that's why many people find him boring. But if you listen and analyze carefully, you will see that Napom is an unlimited creator. In addition to his huge titles, he left behind many works that are imprinted in our minds, such as musical hits. To win a major tournament is difficult, but to maintain top form for a decade is many times more difficult. Napom lost many matches that he should have won, but that didn't stop him from giving up. Even though he had a moment when he got drunk and said bad things. But he still leaves us with respect, an eternal motive.
O.M.G. watching Napom call out River in the first round by with a choice style counter was amazing. And then watching River coming into the second round swinging hard with his own style choice counter of Napoms counter was nutts. And then holy crap then the counter to the counter of the counter. I really really really wish these matches had more rounds to them. This was a crazy battle and I am sure that if we let those two monsters keep going it would have only gotten more competitive and better.
Ohhh... Napom you have had my heart back from the old days you have contributed soo much of your energy and time for the community i really hoped that you won atleast one battle bfor retiring...YOU ARE THE CHAMPION FOR ME❤
For napom to be beatboxing in competitions for so long and still is making routines that are extremely effective is very impressive big ups to him and I hope he continues to be great
There’s been a lot of people bashing River for some reason, not in these comments but mainly on shorts or Instagram and it’s kinda sad. They both deserved a win at the end of the day and they’re both super talented, they put their heart and soul into these rounds for us to listen to.
Anything I could say about who should have won this is all a matter of preference. Both have remarkable skills that I couldn't even imagine trying to perform, and in their own ways, they're both absolute champions. I do have preference to River's style of beatbox, but D Low makes some great points that NaPoM had the energy and experience of performance that got the crowd going. I can't imagine what it would have been like hearing it live in studio, or where I would have honestly put my vote if I was there. I can't wait to see what the next GBB will be like. Observing the current wildcards along with noticing that none of the top 3 beatboxers of this championship have backed out...GBB 23 was on another level, but I have a feeling that GBB 24 will desTROY it.
These videos were absolutely marvellous, bro. ❤ I've always wanted to know the judges' opinions and watch their POV, which is not always displayed while the battle is happening for obvious reasons. To me (a non-beatboxer who absolutely loves beatbox), this content is really helpful because it helps me understand when a beat is really complex or when there's something happening that I cannot comprehend yet. I'd love to watch each judge's POV and know their opinions, so I hope that next GBB will be better at showing you all, gorgeous monsters
Big fan. Been watching beatboxing vids for years at this point. Wandering why you all have decided to honor us with the judges scoring, but then chose to leave us wondering for the finals? Thanks from US. Love your vids sir. Cheers!
Honestly Napom not winning this battle really confused me. I think there was no question he should have won this, and the fact that he didn't makes it difficult for me to understand what the other judges were looking for in a BATTLE setting.
how about not telling bad jokes and then leading into a bad drop in the last 30 seconds of your final round in the final battle? That'd probably be something I'd see as a reason to deduct major points as a judge.
@AJE1111 I'm sure that's the judges reasoning, and I do agree with you. However I think Napom wins round 1 and then clearly beats River with the first 60 seconds of his second round, while River did nothing to match Napoms battle energy or confidence and was overall not very pleasing to listen to (of course just my own opinion). I think Napom did the joke because he felt the win was already in the bag, and I honestly agree with him that it was. He had nothing left to prove in this battle at that point. All respect and congrats to River, though. He is an incredible beatboxer. However, I will say I preferred his material in GBB21 much more to this year and felt he deserved to win that year over Colaps.
Glad to hear your take and not surprised to hear you voted napom. Napom was really spot on when he said "you don't look like your having much fun." River is not very good at the showman aspect where napom is one of the best and it really showed in this battle. River was more uncomfortable here than when he battled ice and napom was straight up clowning around. I think Napom was the 2023 gbb champ in many peoples minds. We gotta get his MONEY BACK
napom really stepped up this year. it seemed previous years he would always pull out his standards, which he did this time too, but differently. really switched things up, seemed like he was having way more fun.
So much people are saying that NaPoM's joke at the end justifies River winning, and I think thats just stupid. NaPoM clearly should've won in my view, he brought more energy, flow, confidence and had more battle in him than River. Also, even though NaPoM is pretty repetitive, he's also very innovative, meanwhile River's final round's sounded extremely similar and worse than his previous rounds in 2023
napom's round 1 is for sure one of, if not THE, highlight of the solo category for me this year. for the whole battle i can see how river won it. his 2nd round was pretty hardcore, meanwhile napom fell a bit off. all 4 rounds are worth for a final though.
@@iHyper77bruh stop defending your idol that's why you're not the judges....after he threw that joke the drop after that is really bad and he really waste his time and he really repeating his sound and his structure is not even good compare to river so it's clearly river deserved to win
i couldn't make a decision on both Napom semifinal nor this one. I was split. River had sweet harmony and musicality. Napom had the battle energy and the best counters. Wing and River were both tight, technical and versatile. Where Wing made a mistake was trying to out Napom, Napom. In the end that was a huge mistake that cost him the round despite everything. But River brought so much heat. I couldn't imagine how hard this choice was. I watched it before coming here and I could not imagine how many little sounds you could hear live from both. Those tiny complexities from River in the end would have won my vote as well as his confidence in staying to his own style. A smart decision to try and not be a better Napom but to be a better River. Wing lost because of that little nuance on a split decision. And I believe this is what allowed River to succeed. He did the best River he could do.
I would vote for River in this battle, as River really shows lots of new never seen technique and great composition in both rounds, while Napom's round didn't show much evolve in his style (very powerful and effective in battle, still), and the structure's kinda off. So it's close but I'll give it to River overall.
i dont do beatbox but i follow it closely. this feels a lot like when you battle in the final vs toma. toma captured the stage. at that point i always felt like he could have won but i occasionally watch it back from time to time then i realize you are way more technical and always willing to try something new and then also realize toma just reuse some of the stuff he did in other competition. you very well deserved to be a the winner.
I mean river didn’t bring in new stuff either. River had used the same stuff at vokal total (i mean he used the the same rounds) and his first round was just a showcase. Its not repetition by both of them, its their styles. None the less, both of them killed it though my vote went for napom. First round - napom Second round - tie for me
Yeah His second round did have some stuff from the last gbb but your stuff is still old if you’ve used it in your battles before. But I guess to each their own opinions.
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Complete napom victory for me BUT i don't know the grading and stuff like Dlow. I appreciate you explaining this battle because i was so confused and annoyed. I love napom and i want to see another big W under his belt, the mans a BEAST
As someone who doesnt know much nor how it is scored, from an outsider view i feel their round 1's were on a much lower level but NapoM's round 1 was slightly better. However round 2's were amazing and extremely close, i feel River's was the tiniest bit better hence how he got the win, i feel all Napom needed to do was do a slightly better unique new energetic bassy drop after his gene line instead and that would of been enough for him to win imo.
Because River became 2nd last gbb he had to win this one no matter what lol. This pattern has repeated itself many times. Judges just don't want to make artist get 2 second places in a row :c
bro whyyy! napom deserved the championship. Napom deserved the championship. The beat that River made at 8:54 was made at 5:57 in his duel with Colaps King Inertia. There were also techniques that Gene used. Napom had his own unique kicks and was very powerful. Energy, power, technique, impressing the audience and making them laugh. Napom has all of these. People enjoy listening to it. I don't understand the judges, I don't know if it was a problem that they were both French. He reached the final 3 times. His opponent in all 3 campaigns was France. Alem, Pacmax, River. Yes, the Alem deserved it. Yes, Pacmax deserved it, but this time it was Napom's deserved, my friend. Napom was definitely very strong and it showed. He deserved the championship. I'm so sorry about my Napom. In the napom vs river duel, they were both very good, I think napom was a little superior. I think it's unfair. In the Napom vs river duel, they were both very good, I think it's unfair. Napom reached finals many times ans lost int the finals. The last duels I lost my mind make me very sad. Napom deserves wone. A stronger beatboxer. River is still very young and has the potential to become a champion. I would love to see Napom win a world title before he gets old. I hope napom will be world champion next year. I'm realy sorry about this situation, bro.
@@MainIsMain River's first round was a mess. Loads of unique sounds ,but it was borring. It was of pitch and was very chaotic. First round goes to Napom and he messed up maybr 30sec of the 2nd round🤷🏽♂️
At the winners ceremony when people were shouting dlowwww I realised how much of a meme that chant is and how difficult it must've been to not break character as the hand raiser 😂
napom 100% shouldve won, river was actually better the year before and also from the judge's alone you could see a slight bias for river throughout the entire tournament
Thank you for saying this. I love river but gbb21 he was way better. Honestly if colaps wasn’t also competing river would’ve swept and i would’ve been perfectly ok with that. But something about his performance this year was off
In my view river improved like crazy in the past 2 years! He is now on an actual champion level. And for me, the fact that he was so clean throughout the whole tournament makes me feel like river 100% deserved it. Napom was kinda chilled sometimes and doing various stuff without big structure behind it all the time. Napom could ve won it, but I think for him, as he already has a champion titel, he was more at the stage just for fun and not to grab the title.
Napom is deserved absolutely... thats injustice for him ..i dont know why this boy every time in final GBB injustice him ...unfortunately for judged 💔 but your vote is for napom.... thats everything for me thanks so much D LOW ❤️❤️❤️❤️
(Not certain that OP was claiming there was bias) But it's worth noting that historically, NaPoM's theoretically always been favored by Beatbox House members on the judging panel, if that's how everybody thinks it works.
