Daemon Prince of Tzeentch 

Bathalzar Gelt: NO, you can't have low cost spammable spell like I do!

"Creative" Assembly xD

my personal Nemesis is the Vampire Ascension. I've been playing as Cathay and I got 8 (EIGHT) fullstacks coming into my regions. Fought them off, had 2-3 turns to relax and got 5 stacks again. Fully confederated and leveled Helman Ghorst, Mannfred von Carstein, Vlad von Carstein.

I got the dwarves as my end game crisis, and while they're pretty tough, I haven't found them to be *that* strong. I'm playing as N'kari on normal difficulty, in case that matters. So far I've taken out a lot of them with just disciple armies, and at one point I took out 2 full armies that attacked my force-marching army consisting of just a Daemon Prince of Slaanesh, an alluress, a cultist, 2 units of hellstriders (the most basic cavalry), and 15 units of marauders (the most basic infantry). I had already taken out most of the first army by the time the second army joined the battle.

I found them tough cause they keep digging holes to the other side of the mountain after I utterly obliterated their fucking armies by punting them as Skarbrand. Oh how I wish I can just get an "Underway" stance where I can just tell Skarbrand to punch through the mountains.

I hate dwarf armies even outside of endgame crisis. I can't count how often I've lost cavalery units or monsters to slayers, just because I only payed attention to the "axe" icon on the banner and not realized that these were slayers with unbreakable and bonus vs. large. Also all the artillery is really annoying, especially if you don't have many fast or flying units. (PS: I don't like to cheese as much as LegendofTotalWar, so I don't do the "waste all their ammo" stuff)

Which is kinda good as the dwarfs in general get wiped out super fast and are pretty terrible a the moment. Skarsnik is the ruler of the mountains in my latest campaign and as the AI even confed the mutinous gits * eye roll * all the dwarfs just got rolled. I'm playing Franz when this happened. lol

But it wasn't necessary

This is your prince? Did you start as metal magic lord for free spells?

@@Ax_Dj0 Yeah, it is my little boy, absolute beast, better than Archaon in many ways actually. I honestly don't remember which lore of magic he was. However that is the first time I hear about free spells! How can you do that? Я по русски говорю если чо

@@Ax_Dj0 Oh bro, saw your comment below, thank you!

@@Mormegilius да, там он ещё на стриме сегодня попробует сделать демонпринца с бесплатными собаками. Потому и спросил, поскольку интересно, работают ли в 2.1 и в 2.1.1 бесплатные спеллы

@@Ax_Dj0 you start him as a lore of metal, then dedicate him to tzeech, then have him ascend to demonhood

I thought Chaos couldn't pick up the Sword of Khaine?

@@dmtaboo_truth7052 only elves can pick it up from the shrine but any faction can pick it up by killing any enemy lord who has the sword of khaine. So it’s definitely harder to get it as a non elf faction but anybody can get it

@@jonathanbradford3155 Nah as Skarbrand I killed a High Elf Archmage who had the sword and didn't get the option to claim it. Although I think I had it on a WoC campaign. So maybe it's only Daemons of Chaos who can't.. Not sure.

@@dmtaboo_truth7052 might have been a glitch but I also haven’t had a daemons save where I got that far in immortal empires yet so I could be wrong, but you can definitely get it as warriors of chaos at the very least

> with the sword of khaine How original

Especially seeing as Chaos has a undivided gift that adds missile resistance letting it get pretty ridiculously high

Its considered a small entity, the AI generally wont shoot at him.

@@justinvlaun Ah beans.

Makes it better for casting spells then. Though, does this mean that AI won't shoot at Azazel? he's actually a small entity

@@fish7598 Yeah they won't shoot at Azazel/Valk unless they are on the ground in combat

Overall a healthy change, but at the same time im never casting purple sun again, its drifted into my own ranks almost every time i cast it

I kinda prefer a weaker spell over a useless one. But I play on small while on my laptop so that might skew things.

@@PinHeadSupliciumwtf makes any vortex super easy to dodge, even for the ai. However if the vortex does land it's guaranteed to kill a unit, just because there's so little HP on the unit as a whole, killing like 3-4 models will break them.

I fucking hate vortex spells. They have never worked well for me. No matter what, they always move in exactly the wrong direction, either doing basically nothing or doing more damage to me than it does to the enemy

I agree I find why has some really awesome battlefields

I think it might be bugged. I played a taurox campaign last week and only got the first rampage tier once despite fighting multiple battles with taurox per turn. Plus my rampage was being reset directly after winning battles on my turn.

Yeah I haven't been able to rampage at all. I think part of it is that the spread out nature of the Immortal Empires map makes it too hard to fight enough battles consecutively. 1 or 2 turns without a battle will reset you entirely, and that's hard to do when most settlements are so far away from each other and enemy armies are prone to fleeing from you and parking in a settlement. You used to be able to get multiple field battles out of an enemy army on the way to a settlement attack, but now the AI is super cowardly and wont engage you in a field battle unless they completely overwhelm you. So they run away and garrison a settlement, and when you beat them in the settlement they are wiped out. So you only get 1 battle out of a situation where you used to get like 3.

That's not Daniel

They are regrouping all the time

My problem with Doom Knights is that they suck at hit and run tactics (which should be their THING) because as small infantry units with little mass they are even more prone to getting stuck inside an enemy unit than cavalry are. Too many times i've lost half a doom knight unit because like 6 entities got stuck in trash and wouldnt fly away. I've used them to excellent effect in large siege maps, flying around in a group and picking off individual units that are isolated. But even then I had to start panick clicking to get away if reinforcements were getting anywhere near, because it takes a ridiculous amount of time to disengage and a single unit of Jade Warriors can tie down models from like 3 doom knight units at the same time. It's super dumb. It's super frustrating the way the game handles individual models within a unit. Watching a unit of Doom Knights ignore your orders for a solid minuts because ONE of them is stuck colliding with a SkavenSlave and won't freaking fly away is SUPER annoying. Also, ordering your units to run down a valuable enemy unit that is nearing the edge of the map, just to watch your guys turn and run in the OPPOSITE DIRECTION to chase after literally 2 or 3 random models that somehow got separated from the unit and are retreating in the other direction.... and theres literally no way to get your retarded units to attack the bulk of the enemy unit until those stragglers are killed... god that happens way too much

You actually don't even need to start him as a metal wizard. As long as he's a Tzeentch metal sorcerer, he'll get the -10 WoM trait when you make him a daemon prince. So I recommend starting him out as Death for the life leeching passive. If you start him out as metal, he just gets a further -10% cost to Metal spells, which is mostly useless since they're all free unless you're overcasting anyways

@@LordGame2222 if i'm not mistaken, death casters could be only nurgle dedicated characters. But I'll try to do it

@@Ax_Dj0 hmm, maybe it's a faction specific thing. I can definitely dedicate them to Tzeentch as Vilitch, but then he's the Tzeentch guy so that might be why.

@@LordGame2222 A specific boon for Tzeentch sorcerers provides Death Passive and Fire Passive. I have no idea whether it must be a hero or a lord or if the boons they recieve are random.

@@legndery1909 the boons are random, you can savescum to get the ones you want. lords can definitely get the extra lore passives, i want to say heroes can as well but i'm not 100% sure

you should check his Aspiring Champs Doomstack Vid, as I remember it got 10/10

Archaon can research all their buffs like 120 turns in. Also, he grants them a ton of damage with ranks. They are murder machines.

Archaon's techs give them a lot of bonuses from every chaos gods. You have regenerating frendzied poisoning monsters with barriers.

Are they good with other LL’s of warriors of chaos? Such as Viltch who is my current play through right now.

@@cpolonium1121 Maybe good but far less great than undivided. No Frenzy, Regeneration etc for them.

it was always limited in WH3

It's still pretty good if you have Barrier to tank the damage

They messed up and gave them a skill that reduces lore of metal casting cost by 10, rather than by 10%

thats not a bug thats a Boon from Chaos its a bound spell you got from doing what the boon asked you to rarely spell casters can spawn with boons that give them access to a free bound spell

The problem is they despawn very quickly. They don't get many volleys off.

I think that would work better against a non missile based faction, but those Irondrakes were nasty as hell.

Level up a chaos lord, you'll get an event to change them into a Daemon Prince once they're high enough. Doesn't need to be that high, I think it was like level 16 or something.

Level the specific Chaos Lords of the Warriors of Chaos to level 15 and you'll get a dilemma in which to decide whether to upgrade or not. So a Sorcerer Lord of Tzeentch can upgrade to a Demon Prince of Tzeentch, a Chaos Lord of Khorne to the Khorne DP, an Undivided Lord can go the Undivided Demon Prince path, etc.

Lvl 30 for Unidivided Lords of Chaos and lvl 20 for marked ones.

It gets the Lore of Tzeentch spells which make it pretty darn good. It also makes for great buffs to the tzeentch units so it encourages thematic armies.

By far

It also regens barrier around him. Sorcerer on a dragon is better in melee though, and is a better lord for undivided units overall. All dedicated lords are better casters though, IMO, and as daemon princes can be strong melee fighters on their own. In my archaon campaign I tried to have at least one or two of each and my favourite armies ended up being the full chosen/skullcrusher stack of knorne (lord on juggernaut), the full memestack of aspiring champions with a daemon prince of tzeench AND a dragon ogre stack led by an undivided sorcerer on a chaos dragon.

@@bagofsunshine3916 I would use an undivided sorc lord on a dragon+a tzeench sorcerer hero with the lore of tzeench

From what I understand you need a really good blob to use it and get value. Thing is I don't think it does great against armor and to add insult to injury the dwarves have spell resistance, so they just brush it off

Funnily enough I think it's the second best spell in lore of metal (there's only two good ones)