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Dalai Lama speaks on Nyingma Dzogchen (Nature of the Mind) 2009 

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Brief excerpt from a public talk given on April 2009 at the University of California Santa Barbara,USA.
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@peacepeeps
@peacepeeps Год назад
That dude is the GOAT of translators, for sure!! He is off the charts man!!
@dalailamawisdom
@dalailamawisdom 11 лет назад
The translator is Geshe Thupten Jinpa. A very well-loved and well known translator of HH Dalai Lama. He's also author to several books.
@vajkosd
@vajkosd 3 года назад
Wow dude that was sooo clear, the translator did an amazing job and the dalai lama has such a clear understanding of it that he could lay it out that simply and clearly for everyone to follow easily. Such a great kind being :)
@dctrex
@dctrex 2 месяца назад
Much gratitude to H.H. Dalai Lama and Geshe Thupten Jinpa! Very powerful talk! 🙏📿
@buddhaexhumed9922
@buddhaexhumed9922 17 дней назад
Perfect. For the last five days I have been meditating near the spot where Buddha's foster mother attained Parinirvana. What better place. Imagine it. All the greats sat around where I sat looking on and helping Prajapati Gautami attaining Parinirvana. The spot is lovely and serene on the banks of the Ganges. Wow. The Buddha watched on, Sariputra and Mogallana watched on, Kassapa, Bhaddaji and the other disciples watched on, Visakha and Amrapali watched on, Theri Uppalavana watched on and helped Prajapati Gautami to have her last bath. The five hundred nuns were sitting around meditating. It took time. I was on that spot imagining that scene through my monkey mind as I tried to meditate. Namo Buddhay. Namaste. I hope to one day take you to Maha Prajapati Gautamies Parinirvana stupa so that you can meditate there where the Buddha sat meditating while his foster mother slowly passed away.
@patrickleahey4574
@patrickleahey4574 10 лет назад
I am grateful for this teaching and will return t it now and again.
@nevillejacobs6687
@nevillejacobs6687 10 лет назад
This is a very succinct and precise teaching on the path to enlightenment, comprehensive, and one only needs to find the references, the texts referred to study, and one would have a good method to pursue, hopefully with an exemplary teacher to guide them. Congratulations to the outstanding translator. NJ
@greeneyestetonmtns
@greeneyestetonmtns 10 лет назад
Thank you HH Dalai Lama.
@iamBANGMARTIN
@iamBANGMARTIN 3 года назад
Webster's definition of the word translator is just a picture of Geshe Thupten Jinpa ;)
@jerombird1614
@jerombird1614 3 месяца назад
Very great thanks too, to the wonderful translater. 🙏
@sttopme
@sttopme 10 лет назад
One of my teachers explained how Dzogchen can be translated as both great perfection or as great encompassment. I resonate with great encompassment as it suggests that it both embraces and subsumes other teachings.
@QED_
@QED_ 6 лет назад
@sttopme: "Perfection", "encompassment", and "completion" can be experienced as inter-related: a state which cannot be improved ("perfection") . . . in which, therefore, nothing is missing ("completion") . . . and in which, therefore, everything is included ("encompassment").
@hellboundtruck123
@hellboundtruck123 6 месяцев назад
@@QED_nice.
@QED_
@QED_ 6 месяцев назад
@@hellboundtruck123 In the Diamond Approach teaching . . . this experiential state is called "Brilliancy".
@GustavoMunoz
@GustavoMunoz 4 месяца назад
Alan Wallace says so very often.
@The1chihira
@The1chihira 10 лет назад
thanks for this teaching
@jerombird1614
@jerombird1614 3 месяца назад
Thank you Your Holiness.🙏
@sethreid3821
@sethreid3821 Год назад
Hello Seth Reid here.thanks for your insights on the Dzogen.i had an experience of a Dharma protector spirit in the wilderness,quit profound and transformative!i do moving meditation chi gong and metta prayer and then this happened and i was confused becuase i dont think of myself as a bhuddist,i just wanted to invoke the peacefull qualities in myself for myself and others.then this dharma protector thing met me in the wilderness!so now im trying to learn everything as much as i can to understand what happened!?it was blue and white energy like a star,it had the presence of a wise women and man,it was a deer that trotted in front of my van on the way then an owl in the tree across from me when stopped to medtate moving and pray then when i finished it knocked quit intelligably on the base of the tree!it was early 3am .when i looked where the sound there was a circle on the ground that went in 3d it was there with rows of arms pointed at the ends like ribbons flowing like centipede arms in some fluid state then all at once it went into my forehead through a long hourglass shape in the air!im changed forever after that experience.is there any other information about this experience you can help me understand i dont have any guru but i would like to understand everything more about what happened?could you please do a piece on these kinds of dieties and what that might mean to a western practitioner/aspirant without much frame of reference please
@lebiendetous
@lebiendetous 10 лет назад
HIS HOLINESS THE 14TH DALAI LAMA GIVES PRECIOUS TEACHINGS BUT MANY PERSONS DON’T SPEAK ENGLISH. A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HIS HOLINESS SAYS AND PUT IT INTO PRACTICE. THANK YOU SO MUCH TO TRANSLATE IN OTHER LANGUAGES HIS HOLINESS TEACHINGS.
@naachubhutan1048
@naachubhutan1048 11 лет назад
Dzogchen was what i find a special approach for taming our real dimension of mind, which is ultimately a tool for liberation.........................
@ensom
@ensom 11 лет назад
wonderful explication of the gradual path culminating in dzogchen teachings of realizing our buddha nature. metta! may all beings be at ease & may all beings awaken! ^__^
@jerry-mind-sky
@jerry-mind-sky 2 года назад
9 years gone. Metta for you and everyone.
@bobaldo2339
@bobaldo2339 3 года назад
Excellent, clear presentation.
@TheBhannah
@TheBhannah 10 месяцев назад
Yes we love you sir !
@206007889
@206007889 4 года назад
"There could be individual circumstances where individual practitioners have residual karmic forces being brought from previous lives. Then in a sense they are connecting with what is moving on from an already certain stage. In which case, a very specific instruction from an experienced guru or master may be an appropriate approach. But, generally, for most practitioners, it is better to approach from a basis of having an overall understanding of the structure of the Buddhist path and then engaging in specific practices on that basis." His Holiness Dalai Lama
@guyshenpendawa
@guyshenpendawa 10 лет назад
Long live his holiness dalai lama.
@airbornepizza
@airbornepizza 4 года назад
Beautiful. I'm so happy we have the Great Treatise on the Stages of the Path to Enlightenment as an outline for how to accomplish this. As you understand more and more it seems so simple, but it's so hard to communicate!
@GustavoMunoz
@GustavoMunoz 4 месяца назад
Dzogchen is not a lam rim, it is not a gradual path. That treatise from Tsongkhapa is not about the Dzogchen path. Such lam rim works with sems not with rigpa.
@JL-ke2vm
@JL-ke2vm 3 года назад
Long live Gyalwa Yeshi Norbu 🙏
@daquietwunn7987
@daquietwunn7987 6 лет назад
Ngagyur Drupwang Gyalwa Dzogpa Chenpo 🙏🙏🙏
@brettunger2578
@brettunger2578 4 года назад
Much Love.....🙂
@joyaditta01
@joyaditta01 11 лет назад
spot on
@BigRon092
@BigRon092 11 лет назад
Great presentation! Who is the translator? He is excellent.
@skyerlog5487
@skyerlog5487 Год назад
Geshe Thubten Jinpa, He was HH's translator for so long.
@timbolicous
@timbolicous 5 лет назад
Clear as ever.
@matufeliciano8273
@matufeliciano8273 7 лет назад
Overall understanding
@ManofWater
@ManofWater 9 лет назад
the truth! very enlightening thank you for sharing your wisdom with us!
@lexnuss791
@lexnuss791 5 лет назад
We are all one as the energy that cannot be created or destroyed. Let's work this out! Thank you everyone!
@crankk1985
@crankk1985 29 дней назад
The translator has a subtle mind indeed
@goodo23
@goodo23 12 лет назад
Brilliant
@eckhardmann1409
@eckhardmann1409 6 лет назад
“Im Bereich des Geistes ist das wahr, oder wird wahr, was als wahr erachtet wird.“ (J.C.L.) 1972
@viaesta
@viaesta 2 года назад
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@user-dn8hw8zv8c
@user-dn8hw8zv8c 2 месяца назад
May you live long lama la☀️🫀
@paljor4u
@paljor4u 2 года назад
🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@RikthDcruze
@RikthDcruze 4 года назад
I realized that it's very technical.
@mikezubia8161
@mikezubia8161 3 года назад
🙏
@deskitangmo5297
@deskitangmo5297 2 года назад
🙏🙏🙏💐💐💐
@Nora-et6et
@Nora-et6et 3 года назад
Thank you very much, can someone please tell me the name of the books recommended ?
@timbolicous
@timbolicous 5 лет назад
Lol Dalai Lama: access all areas ! He knows all of it.
@contrarian8877
@contrarian8877 4 года назад
How?
@dhondupgyatso7603
@dhondupgyatso7603 5 месяцев назад
❤️❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@Songtsen-Gampo
@Songtsen-Gampo 7 лет назад
Dzogchen is the most sacred teaching of Buddhism..
@wildfeuer
@wildfeuer 5 лет назад
No!
@Master_Blackthorne
@Master_Blackthorne 4 года назад
@@wildfeuer Care to elaborate on that?
@wildfeuer
@wildfeuer 4 года назад
@@Master_Blackthorne Of course! Buddha gave different teachings to different people! Dzochen is good for people whose Klesha is anger, while Mahamudra, for example, is aimed at people with a strong desire! Saying one way is better than the other is only good for your own ego to make yourself important!
@user-Void-Star
@user-Void-Star 4 года назад
@@wildfeuer Dzogchen is the faster vehicle in Buddhism you can achieve a rainbow body in just three months if your mind is very very Sharp. That's why Dzogchen is called the highest teaching of the Buddhism.
@elsoil3387
@elsoil3387 3 года назад
@@user-Void-Star Really? Where did you read this?
@loripassarelli7547
@loripassarelli7547 9 лет назад
Dzogchen can be mistakenly complicated. We are all Buddhas by nature. Rest your mind in the present and recognize your primordial essence. Try not to complicate the natural great perfection apparent in all of us.
@DTTaTa
@DTTaTa 9 лет назад
I understand where you are going but i think this kind of talk, specially when made by people who are not realized qualifed master can lead to people resting in simple shamata without sing and think they are resting in rigpa...
@sosodope587
@sosodope587 9 лет назад
Lori Passarelli It's only intellectual idea you speaking off, not realization. It's just following dogma as christianity "just follow the Jesus" - your experience do not change because realization or rigpa is absorption into different state of consciousness.
@futerko108
@futerko108 8 лет назад
+SoSoDope "realization or rigpa is absorption into different state of consciousness" - that is your intellectual idea - the fantasy that one can experience, grasp, and become attached to some transcendent mental state which transforms experience - it seems to be quite common among new-agers who mistake Vedic scripture for Buddhism. The nature of mind is unchanging and eternally present, accompanying every experience and mind-state. The reason for working with and "purifying basic mind" is to facilitate the recognition of this. If you believe you can assimilate it as "absorption into different state of consciousness" then you've got it completely backwards!
@sosodope587
@sosodope587 8 лет назад
peter robinson not yet, you trying to find explanations for your misunderstanding or mis-experiencing rigpa trying to point it as only itellectual stand. When you realize ripga u are free of death and suffering in one moment. I can clearly see that you not even enter stream entry and make such claims after reading some stuff. What you doing is just lip service dzogchen which means nothing.
@sosodope587
@sosodope587 8 лет назад
peter robinson also you trying to fit other to your understanding to yours by comparison which means u dwell in dual state of ignorance and speaking of rigpa. just do not talk about rigpa unless u are totally enlightenment and realized by rigpa direct experience.
@ShaneNull
@ShaneNull 3 года назад
Can I get links to these books I'm ready!
@taidelek9994
@taidelek9994 3 года назад
Om Ah Hu 🙏
@monkm3739
@monkm3739 2 года назад
amazing translator!!
@MladyStarlite
@MladyStarlite 2 года назад
🦋🌹🦋
@uv5455
@uv5455 3 года назад
subtitles please
@Mindfulnessin
@Mindfulnessin 6 лет назад
Seven treasury of longchen pa must be study if you want a pure realization
@Mindfulnessin
@Mindfulnessin 3 года назад
Yes if you are dumb 😂
@Mindfulnessin
@Mindfulnessin 3 года назад
@Buddhist Beast haha ok its not a mere book even without a teacher. You don’t know that coz you don’t know it’s language. So hard to say you are right. Did you read how patrul rinpoche praises longchen pa’s seven treasuries?
@Mindfulnessin
@Mindfulnessin 3 года назад
@Buddhist Beast actually I didn’t said you don’t need a teacher when you study Dzongchen but among many books , like longchen pa’s treasuries is very hard to find . Even single word from the text can transform us into the path . Dzongchen is a highest level , so it’s practitioner also must be most intelligent , hence some books are not just books to them, they don’t need study all again. They read books for upadeshas not for learn new things. Anyway I really like how you keeps sacred to way of Dzongchen teachings but you missed some points. Good morning from India.
@neoele11
@neoele11 10 лет назад
If I am attached to the Buddha (mind)... And I am attached to the sangha and if I am attached to the dharma... How then am i wise?
@h92o
@h92o 9 лет назад
You are wise by this realization of being these ideas of the mind, now, let them go.. and free yourself from the mind as the mind is more illusion then the illusions themselves....
@ngawanglungtok3217
@ngawanglungtok3217 6 лет назад
I am commpassionate towards the sangha, inspired by the buddha and motivated by the Dharma that leads me towards the perfect bliss. I would not use attached.
@deanmiller4806
@deanmiller4806 6 лет назад
ngawang lungtok, I would say that "attachment" is sort of natural and really not a negative problem unless we cant let it go lol... Seriously though, *allowing* all forms of mental afflictions to simply come and go is a very good Buddhist practice. If we judge "good or bad" we are stuck chasing our own tail. I asked my lama guru once if I should "allow/accept" even ignorance within my mahamudra practice.. "yes of coarse" he said.
@ngawanglungtok3217
@ngawanglungtok3217 6 лет назад
that is why we use the term attachment instead because attachment is used for things we cannot let go of
@SandhillCrane42
@SandhillCrane42 5 лет назад
You aren't wise, that's why Naropa had to cut off his fingers to grasp the meaning. I'm just messing with you, of course, I'm not Buddhist, but free Tibet! (And "grasping: may be better than "attachment", "upadana" in the twelve links, but maybe it is you who are messing with me!)
@jimmurdoch7346
@jimmurdoch7346 18 часов назад
The Lotus Sutra: Mañjuśrī inquired, “How then, Bhagavat, did the Tathāgata obtain awakening?” The Bhagavat answered, “Mañjuśrī, the Tathāgata obtained an awakening that has no root and no ground to stand upon.” Mañjuśrī asked, “Bhagavat, what root would that be, and what ground to stand upon?” The Bhagavat replied, “Mañjuśrī, that root would be the transitory collection, and that ground to stand upon the imagination of what is not there.
@tengen2585
@tengen2585 10 лет назад
Buddhism spread before Christianity and Islam that gives some common sense
@albertmiller3082
@albertmiller3082 Год назад
On Ah Hum
@AdaptandEvolve
@AdaptandEvolve 11 лет назад
i agree with blurring the lines between traditions EmptyMindFull, i was replying to ChinaThruJesusChrist's comment about jesus being the ONLY way to heaven, and the wicked going to hell.
@lobsangtharchin3235
@lobsangtharchin3235 3 года назад
Curiosity... If clear light is seed of mind.. It should grow clear light thoughts only why and how it grow negative thoughts.?
@5piles
@5piles 3 года назад
when you do not ascertain clear light you are forced to superimpose faulty knowledge and mind. this doesnt mean fault is your nature, but it will feel like it is
@jusroc6353
@jusroc6353 2 года назад
Tomorrow Never Knows (cause when you live in the moment there is no tomorrow)...It is shinning.... it is shinning.... it is being... it is being...
@HY-vz3ks
@HY-vz3ks 4 года назад
What? He translates without looking at his notes.
@atmajazone
@atmajazone 3 года назад
I think he took notes so that he can see the text when he forget about something.
@garypuckettmuse
@garypuckettmuse 11 месяцев назад
well he's extremely well educated in these things. He writes books about them. And the Dalai Lama's only giving the very briefest of a sketch so he already knows the three this and the two that. Not to take anything away from him he's brilliant and a wonderful buddhist as well.
@tomfitzsimmons6535
@tomfitzsimmons6535 10 лет назад
No sound.
@haiter347
@haiter347 3 года назад
You will never find happiness or peace thru other people
@morpety
@morpety 3 года назад
Dzogchen is not a gradual path.
@sid5714
@sid5714 8 месяцев назад
We are all Buddha by nature.. how did we become unBudddha or not enlightened
@vajraloka1
@vajraloka1 11 лет назад
Advaita, Dzogchen,zen
@QED_
@QED_ 6 лет назад
@freedom77: Rinzai (koan) Zen . . . more so. Soto Zen (shikantaza) . . . less so.
@chaminikabandara1063
@chaminikabandara1063 5 лет назад
Who samanthabraddha
@user-Void-Star
@user-Void-Star 5 лет назад
The first Buddha.
@ugyen1955
@ugyen1955 4 года назад
星白 閑 no no . Samantrabrahdra is not the first Buddha . Google him .
@TenzinDorjee
@TenzinDorjee 4 года назад
You can understand Samanthabhadra(Kundu Sangpo) as the Primordial Buddha
@kbchaffin53
@kbchaffin53 7 лет назад
thanks to all the commenters for proving all Westerners are egomaniacs in love with their own opinions.
@johnmorrell
@johnmorrell 5 лет назад
you forgot to include judgemental
@muresandani
@muresandani 4 года назад
The irony of this comment is staggering.
@airbornepizza
@airbornepizza 4 года назад
All of them huh?
@josef2012
@josef2012 3 года назад
Not sure how that helps...
@TheGuiltsOfUs
@TheGuiltsOfUs 2 года назад
Dzogchen is the way to Krishna consciousness!
@tsenam3247
@tsenam3247 10 месяцев назад
Dzogchen s never suppose to b explain..n can’t b explained..it’s bout experiences..Dalai Lama s an abundant learner n filled with informations..n a philosopher..but never a practitioner of dharma..
@tsenam3247
@tsenam3247 10 месяцев назад
A sign of practitioners s that it never speak in public..
@wanchentopgyal6133
@wanchentopgyal6133 6 лет назад
སྐད་སྒྱུར་ལ་མི་འདུག་།
@longde
@longde 10 лет назад
Dzogchen teachings are supposed to be secret... Otherwise they get misunderstood.
@evhwolfgang2003
@evhwolfgang2003 8 лет назад
This isn't a teaching. Its a brief description of something that couldn't be taught on youtube. Nobody will watch this video and be able to even begin to practice Dzogchen
@TheGuiltsOfUs
@TheGuiltsOfUs 2 года назад
Dzogchen is the way to Krishna consciousness!
@laurentl714
@laurentl714 6 лет назад
Why do the Buddhists need to make everything so complicated and mysterious ?? Can’t they explained their meditation practice with simple words, down to hearth and accessible. Why so many weird names it’s confusing.
@QED_
@QED_ 6 лет назад
@Laurent L: It's not the explanation that is complicated. It's our minds that are complicated (and complicating). Since, by your comment, you suggest that a "simple" explanation would be all you need . . . here's the simplest explanation of all (from Advaita Vedanta): "Not this, not that " ("neti, neti"). Presumably, it's all completely clear to you now . . .
@thehiddenyogi8557
@thehiddenyogi8557 5 лет назад
They have words for states of mind that we don't have words for. So they have to use english to paint a picture for us which you know is worth a thousand words. A thousand words for us they have one word for. And it is a very lofty teaching, so it is confusing for the conceptual mind, although in essence it is completely simple. Too simple for us to grasp.
@loribenvenuto4679
@loribenvenuto4679 5 лет назад
I think the concept, justblike buddhism itself, is not complicated. I think its is that over centuries people have written commentaries, and expanded on things as humans are want to do. Its beautiful in its simplicity and amazing in its complexity.
@ugyen1955
@ugyen1955 4 года назад
This is not mediation explaination . For mediation check out Yongye Mingyur Rinpoche
@andreanicolas9363
@andreanicolas9363 4 года назад
Laurent L, i understand your request but your very funny..if it just could be that easy always!! People would be flooding Nirvana or or mastering every profession very easily and simply I guess!😅😊😁🤚🙏💫👌🌺
@EmptyMindFull
@EmptyMindFull 11 лет назад
I am sorry that you are sad about this. Without blurring the line between traditions, how do you come to the conclusion that the message is not essentially realization of love itself and direct compassion as per Christ's essential teachings? If the Kingdom of Heaven is actually within us and God is in Heaven, then, to me, it brings the true nature full circle as a direct comprehension that the words can only suggest. Good Fortune to you!
@sadikinjeryon9082
@sadikinjeryon9082 3 года назад
its focus is not on "loving oneself". it is emphasis on "knowing oneself", who i am. what is this body? what is these mind & emotions? deeper and deeper. then you know there is something else. not body, not mind, not emotion. that is Dzongchen, primordial mind, pristine awareness, Rigpa, Buddhahood (Buddha Nature) within you. after that, you may develop love for oneself and other beings (or may not?). But that is a "by products" of Rigpa. it is a consequences of Dzogchen experience. if you study Eastern Orthodox Christianity, they also emphasis very similiar concept. Human was created in Divine Image and Likeness. human have Divine Spark within. the goal is to reconnect oneself to this Spark. this is called "Partaking of Divine Nature", or Theosis. This teaching is still practiced in Hesychasm, and Dessert Fathers Mothers tradition.
@joanmarietsultrimparkin1821
@joanmarietsultrimparkin1821 10 месяцев назад
Whatpassesfor Dzogchen today is overblown ..dealt out with no thought for ignorant minds and also western time limits in useless activities. As usual tulkus are rotten. Many of them. Given empowerments that never come to fruition for lifetimes..
@joanmarietsultrimparkin1821
@joanmarietsultrimparkin1821 10 месяцев назад
Thank you Hhdl. ..this gradual path us what young people need today. Not wild Dzogchen teachinflgs that confuse and create passion and more ignorance.
@joanmarietsultrimparkin1821
@joanmarietsultrimparkin1821 10 месяцев назад
Greed is in the organized teachings. Member Tibet.lost their country due to abuse of ati yoga anf fighting. Among the schools . yulkus are perpertrating sectar again in the west ..in scramble for money anf dusciples. Old masters are dying..how dad to see this flaw..rising in strength .pitiful.
@joanmarietsultrimparkin1821
@joanmarietsultrimparkin1821 10 месяцев назад
Keith Dowman makes me very sad..his rhetoric is way .off the mark.stick to.poetic translations. Sur. Not a fiatrube if gsutama buddha and the preminary paths of Tibetan schools..emaho.
@ushirogeri8085
@ushirogeri8085 5 лет назад
He should decide he's marxist monk or buddist monk. One can't be both.
@existingasnature.0112
@existingasnature.0112 4 года назад
who the fuck are you?
@zyxmyk
@zyxmyk 7 лет назад
hopelessly long, involved and foreign. good path for a fourteen year old monk to start with.
@wrpelton
@wrpelton 11 лет назад
If it's in the Bible, then it must be true. It says so...in the Bible.
@czaczacza6534
@czaczacza6534 4 года назад
Rimpoche said he is a marxist monk. Marxism is source of communism. There are milions wictims murdered by communists. I thought he is buddhist monk, but he said he is marxist monk.
@andreanicolas9363
@andreanicolas9363 4 года назад
Where when!!!!!?? Proof
@tenzinthutop1228
@tenzinthutop1228 4 года назад
H h the Dalai lama is true Marxist,rest corrupted
@DanielMByron
@DanielMByron 3 года назад
Haha, which Rinpoche said that HHDL is a Marxist monk? You might need to go and study a bit more political philosophy before just saying what’s Marxist or Communist first. Sure, HHDL wrote a text called ‘A Call for Revolution’ which carries certain critiques of contemporary political systems, as well as suggestions for the future. None of what he is suggesting involves the kinda of devolved Communism we saw in the 20th century. Unfortunately anyone claiming to support the Commons, and the rights of the people is usually framed as a Marxist: which carries such a negative association due to the fear campaigns run against it by the U.S.
@davidt5770
@davidt5770 Год назад
You should study your Rinpoche carefully. Be sure you understood him. And decide for your self.
@wildfeuer
@wildfeuer 5 лет назад
Demon
@kampagang9236
@kampagang9236 3 года назад
Demon lives in your own thoughts
@AdaptandEvolve
@AdaptandEvolve 11 лет назад
it makes me sad that you bend the will of "God" and ignore the message of christ, which was LOVE, in order to affirm your own worthiness of getting to "heaven".
@muttlee9195
@muttlee9195 2 года назад
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