Dain was close to King Bard's family. He is even close friends with King Bain and King Brand. I'm glad Dain is kind enough to defend Brand's body from so many enemies. He was such a good friend as he stood his ground and fought to the bitter end, refusing to back down. A true dwarf, brave, strong, everlasting might still excisting in his old age for a dwarf to long a good long life, making something grand and noble of himself in the end.
Same I would so watch that as cool as the Lord of the rings is I love that in the hobbit, you got to see men, elves and dwarves fight together, and with their own special kind of fighting styles in a truly defensive way that I just I could not get enough of it was so amazing to see a fortress city that is Erebor being besieged, and dale defending itself at a new peak of power it would just be so cool to see, and the elves will be defending their woodland realm that would be amazing as well. I hope they do make more movies set in J.R.R. Tolkien‘s world as cool as the power of the rings the series is it just can’t compare to the giant movies in my mind but I mean just think about it they could make a few movies on the reclaiming of Maurya, take a create three movies based on defeating moregoth so many movie possibilities and they’re always so well received I think they should totally do it but at the same time I don’t think Peter Jackson will do it again I don’t know if I want someone else touching it but they got to do it sooner than later, because who knows some of the actors might not want to do it, or some of them might even die I mean guy that plays Lord Elrond he’s going into his 60s I’m worried for Ian Malcolm the guy who plays Gandolf though I don’t know if he’d be in a lot of movies as the character wasn’t at any of those battles but yeah
I find it so sweet that Dale's toy shop is one of its wonders - it always reminds me that the Hobbit was written as a children's story and yet it somehow fits perfectly into the type of story that is Lord of the Rings. Tolkien at his best.
Woot, been waiting for this one ever since the Rohan vids to complete the "big three" as I see the major realms of Men during the 3rd Age. For such an important place in the Hobbit, always felt that they were left out or forgotten compared to Gondor and Rohan, so it was neat that Tolkien included the story bit on how Dale and Erebor fielded their own major battle during ROTK.
That's because they were "on the side" because it weren't close to Mordor. Gondor and Rohan are right on Mordor's doorstep, and Sauron and Saruman's attempts to conquer them were a big part of the story.
Literally, when you read the book for the first time, he comes out of absolutely NOWHERE and solves the biggest problem. One of Tolkien’s boldest choices, IMO.
I found your channel in 2021 and at that point i had only been into tolkiens works for 1 year and i have to say without a doubt your one of the reasons i love this universe so much
Stellar work, friend. I hate to admit that one of my favorite locations within the Hobbit trilogy was Lake-town as it showed another location of non-Numenorean Men. I won't lie that I often think of the parallels of Lake-town with the crannogs of the British Isles, though the crannogs were Neolithic rather than medieval.
From the middle 1800s (our time😊😊) villages built on stilts on the shores of lakes were first discovered in Switzerland, and then all across central Europe. They dated back to perhistoric times, and excited great interest. I would think Tolkien would have them in mind when conceiving of Laketown.
I've been a fan of the animated version of "The Hobbit" since childhood. I know every single song, verse and riddle by heart. I remember the animated version better than the book "The Hobbit". Granted I received the 33 1/3 record and illustrated version between the two record jackets as a birthday present in 1978 as well as the book, I will never forget the music, sound effects or character idiosyncrasies that brought them to life for me. When Peter, Phillipa and Fran brought The Lord of The Rings to life on the big screen, I was overjoyed and not a bit bothered by what was left out. When it came time to release The Hobbit in theaters, I loved his choices in actors, except Thorin. I expected him to be older because of the animated version. None the less, I love all three movies. Seeing the battle against Smaug inside the Lonely Mountain was wonderful to behold. Thank you for bringing me back to my childhood again. ALL of these memories are PRECIOUS to ME!
Whereas I believe I knew all of the parts detailed in the video, having it put together in a single story was great. It helps one appreciate the long history and derivation of the peoples of these areas more and even cheer for their successes.
Love all the videos you do about the history and lore behind Tolkiens works, absolutely love it. Its so interesting to hear about all the ages of Middle Earth. Keep doing what you do, you are a true gem my friend!
Dwarves are my 3rd favorite race under elves and men. Though there my favorite in one way!! How they build there massive kingdoms inside mountains!! Seeing Moria when it still had dwarfs living there was amazing!!
The day TomDaBombadil falls off, is the day I no longer know when I reach the end of your videos. Sometimes I get distracted at work and when I hear that, I know the video is over lol
Yesssss :) Thank you for this one! I hope your New Zealand trip was amazing. You deserve it. Much obliged for all the content! #NerdOfTheRings #MenOfTheWest #Tolkien -JRoot
My favorite tale of lasting and unbreakable friendships is the story of King Dain defending the dead body of his dear friend, and fellow king, King Brand. Until he too his killed!!
So you're telling me, if the enterprises that own LOTR wanted to do a film or Two-part film about the events after the end of Battle of Five Armies focusing on Dale and Dain during the events of War of the ring and what happens to them after the ring is destroyed... They could do it? Of course the bonus would be to give references of Smaug, Return of the King/Destroying the ring. P.S That thrush telling Bard about Smaug's mark of the black arrow might've been nice if it was included in the film.
You're probably the only Tolkien YT channel I watch nowadays. Every other one is just RoP bashing and treating the Silmarillion like it's a bible or something, very tiresome in my opinion. Keep up the good work, man!
In Peter Jackson's The Hobbit film trilogy, the clear Eastern design and culture of Lake-town and its inhabitants (including, the military and political leaders) are primarily derived from medieval Russian influences - i.e., the early Rus' states of Kievan Rus' and its successors. Indeed, Lake-town is reminiscent of the old northern Rus' trading city of Novgorod - itself, like Lake-town, also situated on a lake. Further, as presented in the movies, per the complex nature of Russian ethno-cultural history, Lake-town itself and its people are thereby infused with East Slavic, Finnic, Baltic, Scandinavian and Turkic influences. In the movies, Peter Jackson clearly defines the culture of Lake-town and Dale as a part of the East.
A particularly sad change from books to film was that Bilbo's age catches up to him before he can cross the Misty Mountains and see Dale and Erebor again. I get why, the needs of the plot means events need to keep pace but still.
Whoever enjoyed jacksons the hobbit series must also get really excited sitting in front of a wall watching paint dry for hours on end. The greatest tolkien adaptation ive seen to date is amazons rings of power. Cant wait for the next series. And i challenge anyone who disagrees to explain why.
I would so watch a movie on the war in the north as cool as the Lord of the rings is I love that in the hobbit, you got to see men, elves and dwarves fight together, and with their own special kind of fighting styles in a truly defensive way that I just I could not get enough of it was so amazing to see a fortress city that is Erebor being besieged, and dale defending itself at a new peak of power it would just be so cool to see, and the elves will be defending their woodland realm that would be amazing as well. I hope they do make more movies set in J.R.R. Tolkien‘s world as cool as the power of the rings the series is it just can’t compare to the giant movies in my mind but I mean just think about it they could make a few movies on the reclaiming of Maurya, take a create three movies based on defeating moregoth so many movie possibilities and they’re always so well received I think they should totally do it but at the same time I don’t think Peter Jackson will do it again I don’t know if I want someone else touching it but they got to do it sooner than later, because who knows some of the actors might not want to do it, or some of them might even die I mean guy that plays Lord Elrond he’s going into his 60s I’m worried for Ian Malcolm the guy who plays Gandolf though I don’t know if he’d be in a lot of movies as the character wasn’t at any of those battles but yeah
Howdy, I really enjoyed the six movies Peter Jackson made, they were action packed, and stories well told, it's just, he changed so many facts, and some " in my opinion " drastically, Thank you for pointing these out, it is appreciated, and makes much more sense to me, Stay safe, God Bless, Peace
question, who do you think Dale was trading with, aside from Mirkwood and Dorwinion, if there were anyone to trade with? are there any friendly lands to the east like the Iron Hills? did they trade with easterlings? did Dale have trade routes to Rohan or Gondor? to Eriador?
Very interesting question! But If I may guess and some parts in the appendices, they traded with the lake folks who traded with the woodland realm. The men of dale were also familiar with the eotheod (rohan) in the earlier days of their foundings so perhaps they were in great terms with them. The easterlings (depending on the tribes) however, often make wars with them near the river. And since the easterlings would mostly target laketown, the men of dale would've definitely intervene in some cases. In the outbreak of the war of the ring, the easterlings crossed the river halfway across the anduin and pushed back the dalemen of brand by the first week of march. Suggesting they were going to target laketown first.
Hopefully one of the upcoming movies WB has announced covers the events that happen in Erebor, Dale, Woodland Realm etc during the War of the Ring. Peter Jackson said he wanted to cover those events in the trilogy but they couldn’t fit them in, so I say let’s get Peter back at the helm and make a War in the North movie
For the next video even if it's a short one I'd like to know the fate/whatever became of the Seven Dwarf Rings. Ps: As always I enjoy this material you give us.
Here's a question I have. Both Elros and Elrond had the gift of choice of which children they wanted to be a part of, as being part elven, human, and maia. It seems Elrond's children also had the choice with Arwen's decision to become mortal to marry Aragorn. So did Elros' children have the same choice?
3:58 Why do people get ANCESTORS and DESCENDANTS mixed up!? Ancestors are our parents and their parents and their parents and upward. Descendants and our children's children and downward. Seriously?!
"Up with the Bowman, and down with Moneybags." Hearing that, I just thought of Spyro the Dragon and that god damn posh bear. I wonder if this is where Insomniac got the name from? Hunter also uses a bow.
So the dwarves abandoned Erebor to go to the Blue Mountains, then the dragons drove them to Erebor, then a dragon drove them from Erebor back to the Blue Mountains. Then they came from the Blue Mountains and drove the dragon from Erebor. 😅
It makes sense to me that Lake-town was founded before Smaug's attack. If the Lake-men had had any intention of deterring the dragon, why would they build the whole town out of wood?
@@colinbaldwin313 I think he meant the reason Lake town wass built was because of the river and the trade it would bring. I do agree that Lake town was probably built on the earlier days of Dale before smaugs attack