Dallas Austin: Boyz II Men Became "A-Holes" After 1st Album, Dissed Babyface in the Studio (Part 5) 

You are really beautiful 😍😍😍😍

Agreed. Always been an icon

@@traw245 you are really thirsty

Ernest Ahweza bro I’ve said that all my life

Patience Gone you’re wrong money only enhances your personality if you’re a jerk money makes you a bigger jerk

Facts

facts!

FACTS

Before you pass judgment. Just remember this is just his interpretation of how thing went. Im sure boyz to men would tell a different version. And the truth probably is somewhere in between.

I believe Dallas.

@Trending Clipz hiphop I was thinking the same thing.

@@BijinMCMXC me too. But it is still good to hear the other side, because chances are that they will further validate Dallas' claim

BijinXOXO you shouldn’t. He lies all the time

Still to this day one of the best of all time.

Fax I remember back in the day me my homeboys always talked about nas ryhming over that beat still surprised nobody freaked it and spit something to it I think Kanye would do a good job of tweaking it and do a couple bars on it drake might sound good on it too or j Cole

Part of the sound track of my life.

Yep. And he and Chilli have a son together

And T-Boz vocals are crazy dope on there

hahaha im here too, i believe Kandi

@@wezekanyathela5502Lol me toooo !! listen when she said the nice one Mike came and apologized..I started singing that talking part where he came in with that smooth deep " Baby, I'm sorry please forgive me" part on bended knee I knew instantly that he had to be Mike lol

Bass has MS! He was literally sitting due to his health.

The former bass singer’s name is Michael McCary.

@@chrisw.5823 narcissists don’t care

Babyface is the king.

They were trying to prove to their fans that they didn't want to rely on LA Reid and Babyface to write and produce their songs and you are right they needed him

That usually what happens when people let their egos get in the way and their heads get filled with pride.

Maybe, but Boys to Men are all still richer than Dallas Austin. So I guess they didn't need him or Babyface after all! Just check their celeb networth!

@@skywalker6648 😂that shit isn't always accurate

Rey Hugo The group as a whole kind of admitted to have this egotistical behavior in their Behind The Music special, said they went broke real fast due to over spending and requesting shit like gold encrusted microphones while performing lol. Dumb asses ruined their own career

Yes, I saw them a few years back and they said the same thing. They sang “Amazed” which they passed up. I think Brian Adams sang it and it became a mega hit.

@@KittyInkel it was the country band called Lonestar.

@@KittyInkel def went to Lonestar. Hey, many big artists turn down songs that become number 1’s. They can’t know for sure or take everything offered to them. Plus, the song sounded better wi Lonestar than it did with Boyz II Men. I don’t blame them for turning it down. Or night bot have been as big of a hit with them, just like End of the Road might be as big of a hit with Lonestar. Actors turn down roles that become hit movies all the time as well. Maybe the actor that does take it makes the movie bigger than it would be with the artist that turns it down

@@KennyBucketz they turned down more than their fair share so it seems and they admitted they were jerks. Yes, it happens all the time. Like TLC turned down Baby One More Time...and no one can even imagine anyone but Britney signing that song. But aftet their second album...their career tanked...and it wasn't for a lack of talent...

More talented than New Edition!? They broke off and did solo projects and were very successful. Boys to Men has tried to do that and failed.

Name some R&B groups from the 90s that did anything after the 90s. You can’t, because they don’t exist. The industry changed. R&B groups pretty much don’t exist anymore - because there’s no money in it. Boyz II Men’s Full Circle album from 2002 had some phenomenal songs on it. They sounded great. It didn’t sell though. NO music that sounded like that was selling.

Archer Leocap Eh, different era. Boyz II Men tried when it was already too late. N.E. did it right at their peak and at a time when R&B was popping in the mainstream. People remember that N.E.’s 2004 album bricked hard too right? R&B groups were over by then.

Richard Williams they do very well touring

You lost your mind BoyzIIMen are very damn successful to this day! Lord get your facts straight!

Besides Motownphilly, what other songs Dallas Austin produced?

@@d-staxworldwidestax7112 too many to count.are you implying something

@@d-staxworldwidestax7112 you gotta definitely do your homework. Dallas Austin has great songs from the 90s

Even the some who grow with it act the same way. Seen it a million times over.

RIH Shock G

@@jwalka534 🎯💯 RIP!!!!

lowkey_fla i can believe Wanya is an asshole. He seems cocky when he sings.

anmaxwell79 On god nigga be riffing to damn much. Sounding like a record player having a stroke 😬😬

lowkey_fla you ain’t heard shot. Their reputation professionally is flawless

Racentour I love his voice but he smiles when he sings like “yeah, I’m killing this shit”. 🤣 He be killing it though. There is not another voice like that one.

I never liked them like that... too much simpin' in their music. I preferred Jodeci, who were more thuggish, hip hop and on that player shit.

i would like to meet him...

Florence Morale they never fell off they are still relevant.

Yeah, except they never fell off. Still sucks to hear they are this way.

They definitely fell off after II. The third album was nowhere near their first two. They’ve done some nice projects here and there after the third album, but they still haven’t been in the mix as before.

@@TheTiffany2710 They definitely fell off. Their album sales are not really that good these days.

@@cherryb853 They came to Albany New York a few years back for the 'Alive At Five' summer fest. It was a sellout. Boyz 2 Men are still Relevant.

He didn't go off on Kandi , he was asked a question and answered

@@Sethlimel he threw a whole tantrum stop it

Well you know he don't respect women.

@@shannonangel3980 Apparently he doesn't respect anyone. People forget, the same people you meet on your way up, are the same ones you meet on your way down.

Only Nathan responded to this video.

Imagine

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Lol

I agree especially after seeing what they did to TLC. Those women had a diamond-selling album and were only making around $50,000 a year each.

In addition, Pebbles was in on it too. LaFace had some shady business goin on back in the day with TLC and Toni Braxton especially. Not to mention Damian Dame tragically didn't live long enough for their talent to flourish.

milliondollar styles thank God!

vincent conway Yea same here. Come to find out, Tim and Bob also did Jon B’s song They Dont Know, and many other hits. Them and Dallas all went on to become great producers, that’s crazy.

Yea, they were dope producers in the 90s, sort of like a younger jimmy jam and terry lewis. Dallas Austin groomed a lot of younger producers in the 90s.

enzigenes Yea that’s spot on

Tory wanya, shawn and Nate are jerks. They treated mike like crap for being sick. And every chance they get they talk bad about him and tell everybody they don’t need him because they were “ the voice of boy’s to men”. So no I’m not shocked that they told baby face or Dallas they didn’t need them. To this day those three dudes are arrogant

Yeah I'm shocked to hear this too..

Miss Spirituality not true

cbell3408 that makes him a jerk? Gtfoh

amcra1 That doesn’t make someone a jerk. It makes someone a peice of human trash. Fucking stay home if you can’t afford to tip. Oh, he’s famous so everyone should have to work for him basically for free? Fuck outta here you stan.

Ummmmm....ok.

Well them niggas is back in Philly on the corner next to a burning trash barrel wit Eddie Cane Jr singing old hits 😂😂😂 that Philly attitude ain't good

Talking bout... “Nights... like THIS... I wish...”

@@theoriginalsamueljohnson Eddie Cane was the fkn homie. That was my movie bro 😂

@nauticadon when you gotta go to Vegas you done fucked up was Prince, Michael Jackson, Jamie Fox, the Beatles ever having to go to Vegas? They wouldn't be caught DEAD in Vegas they fucked up like Brittney 😂

Hard to believe Mike McCary had an ego

they do...

They DEFINITELY need a biopic

Nope even worse

Mr Motown313 maturity did not change them...humility did

Morgan Holliman like their name says. Boys to Men

"Long Head Man" 😄😄

Ain't that his name though?😏

@@LaCheleWallace Lol naw Shawn.

Stop it

Lmfao!!!

Every r&b artists has problems kc haikey from Jodeci use to beat mary j blige

Roshay Erving stfu. Dallas has a horrible reputation. He’s actually an asshole. Shut your dumb ass up.

@@amcra1 You sound uneducated !I said I never heard anything bad&plus everyone know him as a well known producer!Grow up Dummy Bitch Dude!

Do you have a link?

Jae West no. I heard them talk about it during their concert. I was just at their show a couple of weeks ago and I’ve seen them live twice and they mentioned it both times.

Honestly I'm not surprise they like they from North Philly

did he respond. didnt see anything on his twitter or instagram

@@brucebanner3935 IG live. Still there

@@Angel-810 ok will check it out. Dallas Austin must have been telling the truth

I saw that too. I believed Shawn Dallas Austin is pathological liar. BoyzIIMen is an amazing group with the best vocals I know.

I dont know yall. I'm a BIIM buff and seeing as how Shawn deleted his response, making him and the Boyz seem more guilty.

I totally I agree with you Marc Nelson saw through this guy's long ago and I still wanna read his book I wanna know other reasons why he left them

Exactly! That's the first thing I noticed.

Dallas has always worn sunglasses indoors I honestly don’t think it’s a ego thing.

Maybe he's high....

They wear the glasses to hide their eyes. Many entertainers are into occult arts.

Such an ignorant comment omg kids these days just dont know anything...smh

Evolution went 2x platinum but I understand what you're saying. It wasn't as big as the previous..

@@tymartin2293 Yup fell off in sales and it was nowhere near as good as the first two artistically. I love "Doin Just Fine" though.

@@tymartin2293 2x platinum would be great for just about any artist on its own merits, but when you put it in context that II did 12x platinum, that's a sharp fall. I was a huge Boyz II Men fan back in the day.

Even pop with Madonna and like Eric Clapton. Dude's a genius.

Facts on facts!!! If this is all true I'm so disappointed with their behavior back in the day cuz Babyface was THE seminal R&B songwriter/producer of the 90's and literally gave them 2 of their 5 #1's...

FACTS

@@norybevol Very true--all respect to Face. But I'll make love to you was trash. Never liked it.

@@itbepoetry you never liked it.... that's cool that's your opinion. But to call it trash??? That's just hating. You can not like something and still respect it. It was one of the biggest R&B songs OF ALL TIME!!! but it's trash??? Meaning never should have been made... like thrown in the trash.... smh man please

i believe her

@@wezekanyathela5502 Absolutely! What Kandi had said about them recently was the first thing that came to my mind when I came across this and was the reason I clicked.

This just validates, everything Kandi said and more.

Right i was like kandi said the same shit an she produced some hits an dallas to..

Same. And Wanya had the nerve to name drop Babyface after they disrespected him when he shaded Kandi.. 🤦🏾‍♀️

Unpopular Opinion Yes!!! Sounds JUST like him. Kinda looks like a polished DR too. Wow.

@@TheRayvolution Maybe they kin.

Now that you said that, I see it too!

I was trying to figure who he reminded me of, you're right

I don't see any similarities between the 2 of them physically or in mannerisms and the way they talk

We dont actually know if everything is true what he's saying. He could just be mad cause they didnt want to work with him anymore. Artist and producers have arguments and disagreements all the time when they are working on a project. Thats nothing new.

@@gdc615 Naw, there's been industry talk about Boys II Men for years about their egos. You see they are never part of any of these singing shows.

@Trending Clipz hiphop hey clown read my comment again and tell me when you get to the part when i said artist and producers disagree all the time on songs. just because it was babyface doesnt mean they couldn't have an opinion. it happens. and its their fucking album. that doesnt make them bad people like hes trying to make it seem.

@@noncustody so now because they not in the 90's throw back shows it must be true. dude boyz to men at their peak was bigger then all those groups combined. they crossed over and had people of all ages and races buying their music. my mother even knew they songs. they still have a loyal fan base. they dont have to do shows with 112 jagged edge and 5 other acts to sell out venues. they just did a stint in vegas that ran for like 2 years or something. yall just taking a few things dallas said about these guys which really wasnt that bad and running with it smh.

@@gdc615 nah....they actually admitted to it. Believe it or not there was a point when no one wanted to work with them because of it.

Forever Gooner 💯

@Khary Armah dude do u know the hits face wrote? Name 1 better

@Khary Armah he's co-GAT 😂

Forever Gooner he has but Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis could also be in the mix to stake that claim of GOATness

No. He wrote a lot of methodical R&B songs that all sound similar but that's only one limited genre. He is many levels below the "greatest songs ever" and "GOAT". You should expand your horizons.

Laptops been around forever

@@ShawnMega laptops were rare in the 90s

@@ddavis8988 no they weren't, they was selling it in stores, they were just a hassle to most people because the battery life was horrible,bulky and no wifi. But you could walk in any store that sold computers and buy one

@@ShawnMega I didn't say you couldn't buy them. I said they were rare. Meaning, unlike today, every other person didn't have one.

Man pagers was still the ish back then.

EbonyMan 2K I believe him but don’t get it twisted, lying niggas can lie like it’s NOTHING so you can’t judge based off how “casually” they speak.

@@BijinMCMXC You know what ....You right I dated a recreational liar.

Mind you I wasn't there so I don't know the truth. Just say... when you have had ALL these years to create a lie, you will be able to tell the lie in a way everyone could believe.

@@angelahandley9343 I would say after 25 years, why would he have a reason to lie?

@@angelahandley9343 That nigga said after ONE album Boyz 2 Men was flossing diamonds and dissing Babyface and he said it casually like he was talking about how he went grocery shopping. If he can lie like that, he might be the devil.

Tanya Barboza sure did

I knew, they have some messy lives. I think one of them has multiple wives.

Domini478 I agree they are legendary and I never said they were broke

@Domini478 I agree with everything but, Mariah Carey sold the most records in the 90s 😌

Shiquila S Shiquila S Boyz II Men continues to tour and sell out shows. They have a steady residency in Las Vegas since 2013. They have toured with New Kids on the Block, BbD, En Vogue. A lot of their shows are solo. Majority of their shows are sold out. Just cause you are not checking for them doesn’t mean they fell off. A lot of artists do things outside of music. Shawn has a foundation and business with his wife. He also release an EP and is working on his solo album. Nate flips houses and Wanya is working on his music. They are still very much Boyz II Men and very much in demand. They are legendary. I have met them several times and they have been nothing but nice. Sure ppl have bad days and they don’t feel 100% like themselves but assholes are not them. Not after the 1st album. They have admitted their faults and owned up to wrong doings. Nate tells the story of turning down I’ll Make Love to You as well as Amazed which earned another group a Grammy. Don’t go based off what you think you know but based off facts. I have met them, the band, managers, staff and all of them are nice. One experience doesn’t define a person. Ppl think my ass is mean but that’s their perspective of an interaction and not necessarily me. The last album they release was 2014. They recorded a song with Snoop last Xmas and currently working Country and Bluegrass artists.

And yet no one came for him, not even Wanya cry baby a** but yet he had the audacity to come for Kandi; knowing damn well the girl was telling the truth about the group

Right and this interview was way before Kandi's

Wanya's response to what Kandi said alone was enough to prove her point.

@@moneycashlexus The same thing I said. He showed his character with that response.

Your attitude should change it's best to remain humble 💯

Yep especially Wanya he use to hit Brandy and talk to her like she wasnt shit

@@tjustnice1 oh wow

Agreed. I believe the real issue is us fans put these entertainers/celebrities on a pedestal and they feed off it and become cocky or just show their true colors. We need to learn how to separate the celebrity from the actual person. They are no better than us just famous.

Facts!!! Mary J. Blige use to be a serious bit** when she came out, but didn't act like in front of the camera.

True because ironically, Lisa Lopes from TLC described Dallas as hard to deal with, greedy, and how he became hard to work with as well. Guess he can't admit that success changed him, too.

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They might have been feelin' themselves a bit too much, and they probably could have used more tact in stating their opinions about the song, but it "is" Babyface-formulaic and I wouldn't blame any artist who said "No disrespect Babyface, but I'm tired of this! This the same shit you made 8 years ago with Whip Appeal." 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Thats an understatement.

Name one artist that work with babyface that didn't file bankruptcy....

@@brynn_luv_gaza39 does outkast count?

I'm from Philly and I don't like them shawm spoke of why they don't root for the Eagle's because they weren't invited to the owners box😑really???

Yup 😳

88ntil like who? Only group that probably rivals them is New Edition

88ntil jodeci had one good album..out of three... and only two could sing... Try again

koleon06 these young guys who toured with Boyz 2 men sound great but R&B is dead now smh ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-q6qoqacxRUw.html

@88ntil I think End of the Road was their biggest song ever

Jodeci had one good album? Are you on crack? Diary of A Mad Band went double platinum without promotion. And Show after party hotel went double platinum need i mind you. Devante was the in house producer and in the group wrote, produced,arranged,and played the instruments. Also with the help of swing mob. Jodeci doesn’t get the credit they deserve. Kci and Jojo were the vocalist and And Devante and dalvin did the instruments, arrangements,writing.