Dana wants to promote Stipe Vs Jones as heavyweight GOAT Vs P4P number one. To do that on Islams night when it's not even true is the height of disrespect.
He is a fucking hypocrite, I remember when Francis was the heavyweightchamp and Jon Jones hadn't made his return, he said Jon Jones is scared to fight Francis Ngannou
@@DecodingWithJordancouple things. the question was about Islams abilities at lightweight, who also happens to be the P4P # 1 fighter in the world and also just fought on the card for this press conference, then Dana randomly deflected to make it about Jon Jones for no apparent reason. It was completely off topic
I agree. And he underestimate the Volk wins, underestimating that defending the belt vs Volkanovski is like underestimating winning vs a moving up Jon Jones or Daniel Cormier at Heavyweight. Volk is arguably the Featherweight Goat and he bulked up for 155 division before the fight. Volk himself said he is even heavier than Lightweight Dan during the fight day. Look what another Featherweight Goat Max Holloway did vs Justin Gaethje at 155 division. Also Makhachev fought Volk 1st fight on Australia Perth where Volk had both less rehydration time advantage (less rehydration time = advantage for the smaller guy) and also had home field advantage.
@@timurjack8773 the first fight volk whooped his ass, and the second fight you are telling me it was the same volk lol? Yes it was good performances, but you cannot say with a straight face that volk was the same fighter the second fight. Islam won the first fight because he cuts a ton of weight and can just hold volk down in a body triangle and stay on top of him and wrestle. Other than that, he didn't land anything the entire first fight other than a punch in the 2nd round.
@@timurjack8773 The second fight shouldn't of happened the way it did hey? what was it? like 2 weeks notice? the fact Volk looked so good in the first fight and loss if he actually had time to prepare, i reckon the second fight would have gone Volks way! my opinion
@@Sordemithyeh I’m sure that’s what he meant. I disagree on Santos. Jones won that but the fact it was super close and Santos tore his MCL and ACL in the 1st round just shows how Jones was nowhere near dominant without the sauce. Hell he couldn’t even finish Anthony Smith. Anthony Smith for Christs sake.
3 years of takin PEDs. Even changed manager to Richard Schaefer to make sure USADA dont touch him. Shaefer is from boxing and worked with promoter Al Haymon. Haymon (using mayweather) introduced USADA to boxing. Steroids guru Victor Conte said Jones taking testosteron. Thats one of the reasons his gay and injured. When juicing his testo is extremely high, lifting to much weight. When hes of peds he experience huge testo drop and wants penis
To be fair jones' wins against vets were vets past their primes and he arguably lost a few fights on points. Was also in trouble with a top tier wrestler until ref stand up. Jones sandbaged his whole career.
Why even make a gawd damn interim belt if he was gonna do jones vs stipe anyways? Like what was going through his mind why not just make tom vs palvovich a simple non title co main event or why not have made palvovich vs stipe when jones pulled out? I get their legends but wtf bruh its just stupid but idk
Jon Jones's UFC record is extremely, EXTREMELY OVERRATED! 1.) He got fed a titlefight on a silver platter, after 2 fights in the UFC. (that's why he's the first person to ever bring up title defenses as a sign of greatness) 2.) All his opponents had one foot in the retirement home and were at least a head shorter than Jones. It's like Paddy Pimblet beating Tony fergusson and considering it a huge win. That's Jon Jones for at least 10 UFC fights. 3.) Pre USADA and Post USADA Jones are completely different (like many other UFC fighters) 4.) The moment he started fighting people his size, EVEN OSP in 2016, the wins were lackluster if not disappointing 5.) He at least LOST to Gustafson 1 and Reyes. Some say Santos too but I couldn't see that one. If Anthony Smith stayed down after the illegal knee, Jones would have lost that fight too! Shortly after Jones dipped as he felt his decline. 6.) Only moved to heavyweight YEARS LATER after Ngannou left and Ciryl was the perfectly tailor-made fight for Jones as he had ZERO wrestling.
You can even make an argument that OSP beat him which statistically is a factual statement, even looking back at all the interviews and clips talking about that OSP fight many people had said jones had a bad night.
Did he literally bring up the Reyes fight in this rant?? Please tell me he didn't? The Reyes fight is the reason that Jon isn't the GOAT, because it showed how biased the judges are in a Jon Jones fight. They give Jon the win by default, as it was shown in the first Gustafasson, and the Reyes fight.
@@starseeddeluxe that fight was in TX. They have the worst commission in all of MMA. Legit judges don't like to work with them. Had that been anywhere else, Jones would not have gotten the decision. He was basically asking Reyes for a rematch right before they announced the winner. He knows he lost.
Damn Guru, I used to hate your approach/style but you know what, for 99% of the times, you're spitting nothing but facts AND you're consistent. I respect that. Jon Jones's UFC record is extremely, EXTREMELY OVERRATED! 1.) He got fed a titlefight on a silver platter, after 2 fights in the UFC. (that's why he's the first person to ever bring up title defenses as a sign of greatness) 2.) All his opponents had one foot in the retirement home and were at least a head shorter than Jones. It's like Paddy Pimblet beating Tony fergusson and considering it a huge win. That's Jon Jones for at least 10 UFC fights. 3.) Pre USADA and Post USADA Jones are completely different (like many other UFC fighters) 4.) The moment he started fighting people his size, EVEN OSP in 2016, the wins were lackluster if not disappointing 5.) He at least LOST to Gustafson 1 and Reyes. Some say Santos too but I couldn't see that one. If Anthony Smith stayed down after the illegal knee, Jones would have lost that fight too! Shortly after Jones dipped as he felt his decline. 6.) Only moved to heavyweight YEARS LATER after Ngannou left and Ciryl was the perfectly tailor-made fight for Jones as he had ZERO wrestling. And last but not least, he popped 10's of times and hid from USADA and eye pokes were his trademark move.
This is some serious cope. I'm a JJ hater for a lot of reasons but he literally killed everyone in the top 10 of his division. You probably didn't watch MMA until Conor came around.
@@Sordemith Wow, he beat toddlers, what a legacy. Ok, those were the guys that were around at the time, sure. But look at it realistically. You have a guy that came from a privileged family in the suburbs, with every single advantage he can possibly have physically and training-wise. He could focus on the sport. Not only was he taller and more athletic than those old Pride guys, he has the longest reach out there. Which he used mostly to poke people. So his ''genius'' gameplan was to kick people and use his arms to poke them when they get close. Or wrap his long ass arms around them and use the fact that they are smaller to take them down. While having a huge advantage in every possible way. Now, in addition to the enormous advantage physically, he gets another enormous advantage with performance enhancing drugs.Which also influences you mentally. Because this guy that calls himself some ''bad dude'' is actually insecure, immature, and also admitted to anxiety issues. Put two guys in a room, Jones walks out...crying. while the more mature guys console him. So, how was he supposed to not win those fights? He also religiously studies film to prepare a gameplan. So, you have a guy with every advantage out there, that takes drugs to prepare himself to execute a gameplan that's impossible to stop if you are smaller and less athletic. And the first time he encounters someone that has any size and skill, he falls. Loses to Reyes, who also had a reach disadvantage, still won. Barely beats an injured middleweight in Santos. These were the real tests, and he would get obliterated by not just the modern heavyweights, but also probably by average modern lightheavyweights like Rakić. Imagine a couple of strong leg kicks from Rakić to Joneses legs? And Pereira and Prochazka probably destroy him too. Aspinall and Pavlovich and Prime Stipe kill him. Jones was simply there at a time when the division was small and not well rounded, and the gameplans were not there, calf kicks were not there, big lightheavyweights were not there. Guy was lucky...and drugged up. People need to know the truth about him and he needs to get humbled by actual real competition. His legacy needs to be destroyed because its a legacy of cheating.
@@AltruisticMystic All fair points and I do agree but... Most failed drug tests+Suspensions says it all really. I mean, how the fuck do people overlook this fact when they so confidently bring him up as the GOAT. The guy got the most protected, preferential treatment possible not just in the UFC, but in fucking courtrooms aswell.Hitting a pregnant lady, multiple DUIs, being coked out of his fucking mind, and this twat is supposed to represent the greatness in an athlete, when we have guys like GSP, Khabib, Islam, Pereira, Prochazka and so many more. It is a complete joke that in 2024 we're still talking about him, he doesn't deserve shit, least of all sitting on a title until he feels ready to fight old men while he ducks the actual competition, but here we are.
@@ezradaiquiri11311 Your profile pic is of birds, and you talking about legends in the game 😂 Hilarious..why do the losers always want to be big mouths online? Because they hate their lives and want to vent. We understand, keep that weak little chin up.
9:23 Flashback to the ufc 247 press conference Dana white - “I had reyes up 3-1 going into the 5th” Crazy how he switches up just when he needs to credit someone
He does it so often. He will say whatever fits his narrative at the time. All he cares about is money. Remember after Nnganou knocked out Stipe he said that Jones was scared of Nnganou? Then after Nnganou left the ufc he said Nnganou was scared of Jones. He said Islam would never fight in the ufc after the Khabib vs Conor fight. He said he was done with Podcasts and walked out of Howie Mandels podcast then did 10 more podcasts after that. Dana’s word means nothing.
Lemme guess you started watching in 2020? 🤡 Aspinal and Alex meat riders are the worst. Colby bootlickington 0 wins against current ranked welterweights. Ran from all of the top contenders.... shavkat, Gilbert, Belal the racist, khamzat (when he was there) and he couldn't even finish a washed up masvidal. Calls 911 like a woman does. And as boring as Belal, guess what? He has more finishes than colby bootlickington, AND amazingly has a few ranked wins lmfao 🤣 Colby is the most overrated fighter in the welterweight class and this is why
@@440-fishermandrock8 lol Belal the racist that guy is a fucking goof crying about racism being why fans don't like him but I think Aspinall would beat Jones bro why you think he's ducking him if it's such an easy fight.
*Makes no sense that Dana is building up Jones the Duck. Aspinall is the future of the HW division and Jon/ Dana are refusing to give him the chance to unify the belts*
@@nickscarla-tl9xp Jones hasn't hinted once that he'll unify the belts, he's only tried to make out that fighting the HW-champ Tom (who is favourite to beat him) 'does nothing for his legacy'. Meanwhile he makes worthless call-outs of the guys who are 4-1+ underdogs, Stipe/Pereira. He'll take the easy fight against a 42yo retiree who hasn't won a fight in 4+ years (also coming of a dominant KO loss 3.5 years ago), and at very best he'll then fight Pereira (who got easily outwrestled by Izzy the 185lb pure-striker), or he'll retire, and his fans can say 'he'd beat Aspinall easy' (while also ensuring the fight never happens)
heavyweight is already in shambles....he's got a vendetta against Ngannou and wants to destroy any possible narrative that the best HW fighter left the UFC to go to boxing for pay. Also can claim to have a Michael Jordan type athlete in MMA once Jones retires and they probably also wanna protect his image. All this talk about ducking this and that will fade eventually and his record will be what people remember.
If you talking about rankings then sure. But if you talking about money, then Jones is a far better choice. Everyone will tune in to watch Jones fight...Aspinall is boring as f and no one really cares. Has anyone every gone "Holy shit Aspinall is fighting we need to stop everything that we doing and watch it" ... not one person ever.
It is wild people are claiming he's overrated. Yes, some of the opponents were getting on a bit, yes he lost to Reyes and looked poor against Santos, OSP, Smith; yes he is a cheater, yes he ducked Ngannou, yes he's ducking Aspinall and fighting a has been Stipe....oh wait, nevermind.
Reyes has t rex arms. Imagine what ngannou would have done to jones matching his reach, touch of death, and much better wrestling than Gane. Jon knew better.
@@LoylaDemiseemFrancis and Tom would’ve both given Jones huge problems, which is why he is ducking both. It’s a shame we’re missing these competitive matches, as I believe Jones could beat those two mid to high diff as long as he trained accordingly.
Tom Aspinall, Jailton Almeida, and Ngannou, probably Blaydes, and possibly Pavlovich all would beat Jones. But we’re not going to let that happen because he’s fighting f’in Stipe 🤣
Jailton Almeida? Nah, I think Jones beats him. Just isn't a complete enough of a fighter. But I wouldn't be surprised if Aspinall, Blaydes or Ngannou flatlines Jones.
Guru my dude you have grown on me I appreciate your videos buddy keep up the good work. I was on the fence with you like many but you won me over bro you are funny as fuck.
Dana backing a woman beating cheater is wild.. like none of that counts.. hes just trying to keep his only hype train $$$$ fighter alive in everyones mind.. its odd
I think Dana is trying to downplay Islam as to not have another ‘Khabib’ case where Islam retires early… play down his achievements, keeps Islam feeling like he needs to continue achieving more in the sport before he can retire (aka… fighting for longer) Btw, I’m not an Islam fan, but this seems clear to me
Good point, But Islam already told in an interview he will only retire if he thinks he's not improving (Basically if he starts losing big time) but for now he feels like he's improving in different games apart from wrestling which we can clearly see.
I've been telling this to my casual friends for over a decade. He was always too big for lightweight heavyweight at the time. Dude has been avoiding heavyweight contenders his entire career.
"Not even Ali was the same after 3 years." He wasn't training with the best facilities for those three years, he wasnt training at all for at least a year, he was in and out of legal stuff
Can you even tell its been held up? Francis defended once in his entire run of over a year, heaavyweight has been dead for years. Title has been contested maybe twice since stipe held it, what, 3 years ago now?
Nothing out of the ordinary. Remember that old clip, when Dana was told that Demetrious Johnson is the best PfP, and he immediately replied "I think Conor McGregor is the best PfP", and no one brought up Conor in that conversation prior
Mighty Mouse has to be in the running for the UFC Pound for Pound 🐐 with St-Pierre - Khabib - Anderson Silva Demetrius was never boring & is a complete Striker & Grappler He's proven his Greatness @ One FC 👍
@@alexdiaz3311 recent DJ documentary reminded me of this. Although I'm sure It's pretty much in Dana's character as a promoter and there were many of such things over the years from him.
Look at his eyes and his face. It’s locked in his eyes are black and beedy dude looks like he got some fuck news or like guru said blackmail on Dana. Shits weird. He fr looks different here. Could be a recent Botox run. Idk.
@@alexbuzzanca2943 haha francis cant wrestle to save his life that fight would of been a joke just like the gane fight jones wouldnt stand with him he would sweep him and choke his ass out when he posts to get back to his feet francis was the most over rated fighter literally ever he had power thats it his footwork is garbage he loops all his punches he has no jab he cant wrestle cant sub anyone he was an anomoly because of his power if hes was in any other weight calss he would be an absolute nobody he got away with being one dimensinal because hes in a division that allows it
@@zacryan2095 francis with one knee outwrestled gane. Not saying that francis has better wrestling than jon but jones beating gane means nothing. Francis probably can survive jones grappling and is stronger. Francis stand up is not perfect by any means but he has the power and reach to give jones problems. Jones is not a good striker and gets hit a lot more than people think. Jones lost to fucking reyes and he has been busted for PED multiple times. You sir are a casual glazing a cheat and a wife beater.
“No ones ever gone on a 3 year layoff and came back looking the same” bro, GSP came back after 4 and looked BETTER when he also went up a weight class and fought an actually legitimate champion with defenses
there is really no argument for jones even you are his biggest dick rider, makhachev has more finishes in the last 3 years than jones has fights in the last 8 years
Here's my take -- at some pointt last year Khabib and Dana had a falling out and Dana is taking it out on Makhachev. Notice how you see footage of Khabib talking to Trump at 302 but none of him talking to Dana. Islam asked to fight in Summer of 2023 and Dana told him to sit out until Abu Dhabi. Islam also asked to fight in March of this year but Dana told him there was no opponent available. In this interview, Dana claims Islam hasn't mentioned wanting to fight for the 170 lb belt, yet the UFC offered Islam to fight Leon during Ramadan (knowing he wouldn't take it). Dana can only screw Islam over so much though since he has Saudi and Emirati business partners.
Because Dana knows that Islam is gonna retire prematurely like Khabib did. Islam will probably fight another 3 times before he hangs it up and it pisses Dana off because he can’t invest in a guy who’s got one foot out the door like Islam does.
Dana's stand towards Jon really turn 180 right after Ngannou decides to leave the UFC, to think that all of this could just be caused by Dana's pettiness towards Ngannou 💀
Jon hasn't been p4p since he moved up to heavyweight and won only 1 fight. Islam is 100% the p4p champ, not scared and fat Jon, and I'm happy people are starting to realize why Jon Juice doesnt deserve the respect he gets
What they should have said was Jon jones should have bin stripped of his belt, the fact that they have the interim champion defending the interim belt should be immediate grounds for the jones to be stripped and aspinal be made the undisputed champion this is some #1 bullshit the amount of leeway their giving jones is insane the interim champ…defending the interim belt fucking pathetic
I wish these press events weren’t cherry picked on who can come, I’d love someone to call Dana on his bs without getting banned from future press events.
Dana does this to fighters all the time. Once they hit a certain level of success and fame. He turns on them. Because he doesn't want them getting bigger than the sport. Look at how they treated Ngannou as a prime example. Before Stipe Ngannou 1 they promoted Ngannou like he was some kind of biblical event. Then look at the difference once Ngannou got a taste of freedom and wanting to be out.
@@richarddixon1450Well said. I’d like to add that he gets away with it cause all of the journalists know their access will be revoked if they push back on anything.
Bro i was literally the biggest makhachev hater for beating two of my favorite fighters but ffs you gotta give the man his credit, hes literally a once in a generation fighter
66% of his title defends are against featherweight. And ALL of his title wins are against either featherweight or FORMER featherweight. OnCe iN gEnErAtIoN bRo
@@imma5761bro just give it a break You're obviously just a hater if you're really gonna sit here and act Islam isn't one of the best lightweights of all time well on his way to becoming THE best lightweight if he keeps his streak going then you're just being obtuse
@@imma5761 you're acting like he just cherry picked some scrub featherweight when he fought fucking volk literally another once in a generation fighter, beat Charles another once in a generation fighter just beat Dustin his resume is beyond impressive you can hate the guy all you want but just know it'll never take away from the greatness he's achieved
You have just gone up in my book addressing Jones PED use - perfectly - DC got screwed - Have a look how Jones looked in the second DC fight - juiced to the gills
At this point, Dana might be getting spit roasted by Jon Jones & Conor McGregor at his mansion...makes you wonder why he was glazing Jon Jones, and cancelling all Dublin pressers.
Bruh I've literally been saying this exact shit SINCE HIS BEGINNING!!!! Everyone tried to call me a casual and say height doesn't win fights lmao. They never wanted to acknowledge that it has a MASSIVE impact especially if your skill is grappling. Then you just use the length to keep them away while striking, and if you ever struggle standing with them you got the option to just take them down. That's why it didn't work on the only guys he fought his size minus Gane who had -20 grappling skill.
I was just looking it up and Jon's knockout of Cormier was overturned, and it was listed as a "No Contest" on his record. He failed the test that he took just before the fight. Meaning, he did not win that fight against Cormier. You cannot win by taking Turinabol, an anabolic steroid, before a fight.
It’s all simply to add to the whole mythology surrounding Jones. So that Dana can say: “we had the baddest dude in history in the UFC”. When in actual fact he spent his entire career beating middleweights and lost to Reyes. We all know Aspinall would destroy him.
I did the same video yesterday and there a clip of Dana in the time jones was on the sidelines and he legit said “you have 1 year to defend your belt…it’s a very long time” Bro chooses his words on any given day to fit what he feels at that time
I had a horrible first impression of you but I still couldn't help but watch your videos lol, you're extremely entertaining and speak facts, now I'm a fan, keep it up
Absolutely travesty what they’ve done to Tom here, literally to cater to the needs and wants of someone who’s been a total fuck up in the company greatest or not. Aspinall has to fight at 5am while they’ll literally do anything for Jones it’s abysmal
