Danny McBride finally speaks out about HALLOWEEN ENDS - and it's not what you think! 

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I really only had two issues with this movie, and Corey wasn’t one of them. 1. As you stated, the marketing. It set us up to expect this epic final showdown between Laurie and Michael. But their final showdown ended up being short and pretty anticlimactic. I felt it was false advertising, kind of like being lied to. 2. At the end of Kills, Michael has just obliterated everyone. He was an unstoppable killing machine. I can find zero logic to dictate why he skulked off to sewers to hide from the world after that. It just didn’t fit with what they’d shown him to be. It took me right out of the movie and I couldn’t get back in.

My main problem is the story they built up to it Halloween kills is completely gone. The dynamic they built between Hawkins and Laurie strode should’ve been explored more but instead they acted like the two characters hadn’t seen each other in four years. It was ridiculous.

Corey should have just been Cameron, could have been interesting cuz his dad was killed in Kills and it would have been an interesting arc and felt more natural. Still don't like the idea though

Danny is writing the new Exorcist movie, now I know it's gonna suck

Yeah I would have loved to see Corey introduced in the 2018 film as a minor character, then building him up as a lead in Ends. I would also love to see a continuation with Corey as he fully embodies being the "Boogeyman" of Haddonfield, and becoming a new legend in his own right. A new series of Halloween films with Corey as a new Slasher that becomes seemingly unstoppable would have been cool, but of course movies aren't made that way anymore.

Danny McBride is just as guilty as DGR in ruining Halloween 🎃 and now they are trying to ruin the exorcist… 😔

Two things we should be grateful for with this trilogy is the number one the mask is the actual mask and number to James Jude. Courtney actually moves like Michael Myers.

I think Corey had no business donning the Shatner mask and suddenly possessing Michaels next level skill set when killing people, but I would have actually been okay if he kept the scarecrow mask and we had a buddy slasher film. It wouldn't have fit with the third part of a trilogy but I personally might have enjoyed it more.

I understand that they felt the need to do a time jump, but the fact that they cut from Myers slaughtering Karen in Kills to becoming a reclusive hermit does not make sense at all. We’ve seen before that he doesn’t care who he kills, so why have him stop before he gets Laurie (or attempts to) for good? Plus, if you watch Kills’s alternate ending, after Laurie senses that Karen has been murdered, she walks out of the hospital clutching a rusted knife, walking to hunt down Myers. Now we’re supposed to believe that ending wasn’t canon, because she’s deciding to live happily away from all the drama and bloodshed, writing her own book? Plus, wouldn’t her reflexes and skills have eradicated drastically in that 4-year time, if she wasn’t looking for him? Then, when they have their encounter at the end of the film, she wouldn’t have the upper hand so easily. These were my main problems with the film. At the same time, I agree there were elements that were good (but not great), but a lot that weren’t. Great analysis. I personally rank the trilogy as Kills, 2018, then Ends.

This isn't directed at you, solely. This is directed at everyone collectively who seem to have gripes with the film. And you're civil about this topic, so I appreciate that. The non-sensical complaints of Halloween Ends: "Michael was weak in Ends" - Uh, yeah. That's literally the point. Throughout most of Kills, he was probably pumped up on adrenaline. The mob beating absolutely wrecked him. He was dying from years of untreated, infected wounds. And he's 65. He is quite literally an old man. He's still a human, afterall. "The more he kills, the more he transcends into something impossible to defeat: Fear. People are afraid. THAT is the true curse of Michael." How people cannot understand this is beyond me. People thought she was talking about Michael himself becoming unstoppable, which is why they are pissed off with how he is utilized in Ends. She was literally talking about the fear he creates. The more people are afraid, the more Michael's evil taints the town of Haddonfield. For 4 years after the events of 2018 and Kills, his presence was felt throughout the entirety of Haddonfield. Haddonfield was just a cesspool of dread and fear. And when watching Ends, you can feel it yourself. Not one point did I not think that Michael wasn't there. He was there the whole time. His evil presence was seeping through every crack and crevis of Haddonfield. SYMBOLISM people. It's not that hard to fucking grasp. "Michael got beat up by a nerd who got beat up by band bullies" - This one is my favourite. First of all, at this point in the story, Corey was infected with Michael's evil. THAT'S WHY he was able to go toe to toe with him. With this, it also made him stronger. Also, he never "beat up" Michael. He used Michael's own momentum against him, tripping him up causing Michael's head to smack into the ground. Secondly, those "band bullies" (I love how people have to shoehorn the word "band" in there) were literally the same size as Corey. Anyone can get their ass kicked by a group of teenagers. You're lying if you can't. What's more, Paul Brad Logan, the screenwriter of Ends and author of the Ends novelization, said in a recent interview, that he himself was once bullied by members of a marching band. The fact that they are in a band is irrelevant. "It's just an Allyson and Corey love story" - No, it's not that. It's a story about one person's descent into darkness and it showed that his attraction to Allyson turned into obsession because the evil was taking over. THAT is the point of that relationship. "Michael is hardly even in it" - Okay... But he was there the whole time. You could literally feel his presence seeping through every crack and crevis of Haddonfield. He tainted the town with his evil. And you know, he actually had less screentime in the original. Hell, Freddy Krueger only had about 7/8 minutes of screentime in the original Elm Street. But did that matter? No. Because you could still feel his presence. It's all about quality over quantity. Using him sparingly. "It's not a Halloween film" - Except, it quite literally is: a) It continues the story of the OG, 2018 and Kills. b) Michael Myers is in it. c) It takes place on Halloween. How is it NOT a Halloween film? Oh, I get it. Because it's not 2 hours of Michael going house to house, stalking and slaughtering people... Is that what you all wanted? Just a repeat of 2018 and Kills? Then you would all complain that Ends was just the same as the others. Now you complain that it's too different. These filmmakers just cannot win with this fanbase. They made the right choice. They branched out. Gave us something fresh. Something unique. And you know what? I would have them do it again.

it was a bait and switch. they promoted it as the final clash between two iconic characters. they gave us a c w haddonfield high pilot. they could have had THE horror movie of the year; they settled for not even having the horror movie of the halloween season.

I don’t think they ever imagined that Halloween 2018 would do as well as it did, and I don’t think they really had a grasp on what they were doing when it went so well and they were left kind of throwing things together for the fans and this is the result

My gripe with Ends is there is no continuity, whereas with 2018 > Kills they literally pick up in the same exact scene with the house burning up in flames. The reason Ends feels so disconnected is because this last film doesn’t do the same, it doesn’t feel like it’s the same universe even. The story goes rogue, where in the first 2, it was all building up to what we fans thought was going to be this major, violent, bloodbath of a showdown fight between Michael and Laurie. And it’s not. It’s about this stupid kid that has NOTHING to do with the first two films. At all. No one gave a crap who this kid was. We were there for one reason: to see Michael and Laurie battle to the death. They made him weak a f, which was weird also because in Kills, at the very very end Laurie even says and I quote “The more he kills, the more he transcends into this unstoppable force.” And here he is, completely pulverizing an entire crowd of people from the neighborhood slaughtering them all, so by this logic he should have been stronger than ever before at the very end of Kills. There’s also no answers to anything - at the end of Kills, what happened when Laurie left the hospital? Was Michael still at the house? What happened when Laurie found her dead daughter? There’s so many holes in the story that go unanswered, it was like this huge climax building us up to this epic level ending performance of a film to finish off the trilogy and instead we got this weak, old, tired version of Michael. I don’t understand it, probably never will, and I’ll just continue watching the real trilogy of 1978, then 2018, then Kills. I’m just gonna pretend like Ends doesn’t exist with all the other weird sequels they came out with.

As I stated before in my review of this movie and on live streams, I knew that David and Danny wanted to tried something different than rehashing the same old 'slasher' film we seen before in this series. I had no problem with Corey and I no problems with Michael's screen time in the film. I do agree with you about the marketing as the people in charge and Universal fooled a lot of fans in thinking that this was going to a 'war' between Michael and Laurie.

This is one of the things that Jason Voorhees has above Freddy and Michael. Back-story is already complete, now to just find a cool way to bring him back to life and kill him in the end. Hard to disappoint the fans unless you tell them he's going to Manhatten, but then you put him on a boat going to Canada or have an EMT driver put on the mask to avenge his son's death over a candy bar.

DGG showed disdain for the fans with Ends. He didn't care. He had already cleaned up at the box office with the first two, so he just did whatever the hell he wanted. He really isn't a great director at all and it's too bad we got stuck with him for these films. He didn't "get it" like Carpenter seemed to think.

I honestly feel like the sequels were never planned and were rushed out.

Cory should of had a scene in kills and escaped… would of made the first scene in ends more impactful…. The kid wasn’t just playing a prank on him but was playing on his personal nightmare

I think this movie brings up a lot of ambiguous questions about the nature of evil. I appreciate it for that at least.

Kyle Richards had less screen time than a regular guest appearance of her nurse character on ER. That was disappointing. Why bring her back if she’s not going to have a purpose? At least on ER she’s helping the medical team in a trauma room save a life in the limited screen time. I actually liked her as Nurse Dori. 😁

Michael's screen time wasn't the issue. Remember, he wasn't on screen very much in the 1978 original, but even though he wasn't on screen much, *his presence* was felt throughout. He felt like a threat who was constantly lurking just out of view. You don't get that feeling in Halloween Ends because we don't even catch up with him until 40 minutes into the movie, and then it still spends its time focused on Corey. Michael isn't a main character or main antagonist at all. He doesn't feel like a looming threat to fear or be concerned about.

To be, all three movies didn't feel too different. Still in Haddonfield with a similar plot just different characters. I wish the franchise would do what Scream did, and throw Michael into the city or something. I just get tired with the same old story. I did love Allyson from that trilogy though, she was my favorite part and I did like Corey.

Yeah.., biggest Halloween fan ever and hated I mean hated Halloween Ends!!!!

Agreed. Season of the Witch has aged like fine wine. It's a lot better now than on it's original release.

There’s just nothing redeeming about Halloween Ends. How often in motion picture history are you able to get, not one, but TWO of the original actresses from a film from over 40 years ago? They have them but then make the friggin movie about Cory.🤦‍♀️🤦🤦‍♂️ This was it. This was the end of Michael Myers and Laurie Strode and they gave us Cory.🤦‍♀️🤦🤦‍♂️ My dream ending for this film would have been Michael wanting to finish off Laurie, Lindsay and Allison BUT instead, after brutal fights and chase scenes throughout Laurie’s house and that boarded up house right next to hers and then they finish off Michael. No. Not these writers. As much as I love Jamie Lee Curtis, I can’t bring myself to even buy this to complete my collection. Can you imagine what they’re going to do to The Exorcist?🤦‍♀️🤦🤦‍♂️

Did you read the Ends novelization? I recommend it! I read it after I saw the movie and it supplements it very well.

People are always gonna hate lol, like you said about halloween 3. People hated it when it first came out, and i was also a person that didn't enjoy it the first time i watched it. But as i got older i got more into it, and i do enjoy it alot more now. And i can see what they were trying to do with ends. They didn't want to do the same thing over and over, i get that. But why not make an epic ending where both main characters die at the end after all these years of him chasing after her and wanting to kill her. It would have been an epic closing to an epic franchise, idk the ending they did was weird lol.

The issue with sequels is the many continuity the flaws David Gordon Green did exactly what no one other John Carpenter attempt to do. Story wise you can only do so much with Micheal Myers then after awhile it becomes redundant in terms of being a standard slasher. Removing what makes Michael Myers scary gone are days of suspense and well crafted story of Good vs Evil he was never supernatural was I upset that Micheal Myers was less on screen the answer is no. Had Corey not try to kill Laurie and survived the bodies at the junkyard would've been blamed on Michael Myers the surveillance footage would showed Micheal and not Corey.

Corey I'm sure wasn't thought of till they wrote the script. Was Corey evil cause he killed out of revenge. He was traumatized so he snapped. Now Myers may be in ends longer than 78, but in 78 you felt Myers presence the whole movie and his scenes counted. When you watch ends you're like wtf who the hell is this guy. It felt like Myers lost his evil in ends. What a crap movie

If they didnt want to "repeat the same beats"...then they shouldn't have put their hands on the Halloween franchise. People who want to watch Halloween, want Michael Myers. The fact they knew before hand that it was gonna be controversial and divisive among fans, tells us what we already knew.

I would have loved to see the open that was in the Novel for this movie. It would have helped explain a lot more and set the rest of the movie up. Cory should have been in Halloween 2018 in some compasity. I love that they did something new. The execution could have been better for sure! Love the video man!!

So many "what ifs" and "should have beens" with this trilogy and especially Ends but I absolutely love how they all turned out and it's still some of my favorite horror films of recent years. "I'm the Pycho, your the Freakshow"

Corey should have been introduced in halloween 2018 and had a build up throughout the trilogy either that or they shouldn't have marketed the movie as Laurie vs Michael and then barely had michael in it

great video night enjoyed it and danny mcbride looks mad from the photo 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I just honestly don't understand what DGG was thinking coming off of H kills to Ends? It didn't feel like a sequel from how kills was to the way Ends was. Completely different feeling and style and story flow.

Great video, very well articulated. I enjoyed the movie when i first saw it, the more time goes by, the more I enjoy it.

I like Halloween Ends but it's not what it should've been in my eyes 👀 😊🐾 💜

Halloween Ends = The Corey Cunningham show.

One character I was hoping for Michael to kill off was Barker, he was useless in the entire trilogy. He only appeared in Ends for a minute

I tried so hard to like this movie. I've re-watched it probably 5x. The story they'd built up in the first 2 did not correlate to the 3rd. It was advertised as one thing and we got something completely different with a 5 minute struggle at the end. I've heard people bring up Michael's screen time in the original was less than Ends but the difference is in the original you knew he was there even when he was off screen. That was definitely not the case here. Overall was a huge disappointment for me.

It is a stupid sequel to a halloween movie. Does not even feel like Halloween at all.

Look, I get what they were trying to do, but the whole Corey thing just didnt make sense, Michaels evil is never explained, while Coreys is explained and the guy is literally just introduced to the audience while we've been trying to figure out why Michael's past is never explored or explained when the last two movies could've been about that but nope, "Michael's old and not moving to good anymore, and some kid makes friends with him, there's halloween ends"

Curiously, I've never seen Halloween III because it follows a different narrative. That being said, John Carpenter has specifically stated that Halloween (1978) is about "evil" and the fact that it never goes way. Viewed from that perspective, Halloween Ends is aligned with that trajectory. I also like watching movies that I haven't seen before (from a plot perspective), so kudos to the filmmakers for trying something unique as opposed to remaking Halloween (2018). Nice old school Bucs cap. I miss my Oilers. Cheers, mate...☀

Honestly we should've got two versions of the film considering they actually cut out a huge chunk of the movie which we never got to see it's only in the book version

We won't get though this in an afternoon. But the simplified answer in my opinion is this. Focusing on H ENDS, this how I see it. Evil can not just die. And even when it's time in nearing its end, it can only "leave" when a battered and vulnerable (preferably someone who was kind and had the potential for a lot of good), cries and pleads to the dying evil: "Get up! Show me how to do it!" 🤔

I just find it funny how Laurie assumed Michael was after her when she’s the one who threw herself in his path. He didn’t give a crap about Laurie. He wasn’t on Google trying get her home address or anything.

having corey in an earlier film would have just turned this into a Scream film, though, with a trusted friend turn berserk

As the months have gone by, I've become less and less okay with Ends 😂 man what a disappointment. I'm not sure why it had to go down like this when the original plan was 3 films taking place in one night

I think they should never had a Corey Cunningham character

I feel like a good ending would have been to pay tribute to Season of the Witch by showing Silver shamrock making Michael's mask. As if they could pass on the evil somehow.

Ends is about a half hour longer than the original Halloween so percentagewise Myers had more screen time in the og

Hes not calling them out. Hes just saying he gets the criticism.

I loved 2018 and kills but ends didn’t feel like the same universe I just don’t see why you make such a big change in the last film of the trilogy and I was hoping that ends would be back to basics like in the original where most screan time is just him in the shadows and see how everyone is falling apart due to fear which ends did kinda do but the focus should have been on Laurie and Allyson not some random guy. That we never saw before. I think ends presented good ideas but was executed poorly and it would have been something better to do after Michael died and it be like when one evil dies another’s rises. It’d make more sense and easier to follow end’s made things too complicated and it just wasn’t good so to sum my pov I think they should have done this film a lot like the original but also focus more on Michaels effects on everyone and play on that Michael is always watching and can strike at any time. And then you could have done something similar to ends as a mini series or something but I’m glad there’s people who were able to enjoy the film but I couldn’t enjoy the film even as a hardcore fan and watching it a number of times I just can’t come to terms with it it’s just not that good and I get a headache every time I watch it because for me it was just not good but I’m glad other people were able to enjoy it

After 2018 and Kills, Ends was a total let down straight up. Ends looked like a last second change up imo.

We almost had a season of the witch plot twist ending. After michaels death and Laurie has a happy ending before end credits it there was a scene that took place at the silver shamrock factory it said as the conveyor belts are spitting out the witch skeleton and pumpkin masks then it started spitting out Michael Myers masks. It was stated by david gordon green but it was never filmed because he felt it was fan service to those who only knew was season of the witch was. I wish we did have that ending if not at least an alternate ending or something.

I wanted Halloween Ends to be a revenge movie Night maybe Laurie Strode and a group of survivors would go after Michael inn an all out war I was disappointed in Ends to some extent as well as the last 2 Halloween movies. You can call me Jeff Night that's the name I go by if that's easier for you to remember I like to change up my name at times

SOLUTE you for having the main TOP CLASSIC horror masters in the background the absolute TOP MAIN thank you!!!!!! MICHAEL-JASON-FREDDY

The entire trilogy is a total mess of ideas that never came together! Michael might have less screen time in the original but you feel his presence throughout the movie, you don't get that in Ends! They didn't try something different, it was already suggested at the end of Halloween 4 that Michael's evil could be transferred into someone else and the Producer's cut of Halloween 6 suggested the same thing, they just spent 90% of Ends run time focusing on that and it was a complete failure! The marketing was very deceptive and I do think Universal should answer for it!

The issue with movies like this is the writer's make it about themselves, not the established fanbase. Keep it simple. By changing so much of what makes it Halloween, you lose your established audience. Look at Halloween 3, look at Jason Goes To Hell etc.

Halloween Ended No Reboots No Remakes R I P

This movie felt like a stand alone entry, not the third film in a trilogy

Problem with ends is it is not better than kills I too am a fan of Halloween 3 season of the witch

Reading Novel before watching the movie or watching the movie then reading the novel makes HW ENDS a better movie, to me, if they would've added in SOME of the parts that was in the novel would've have made ENDS a more enjoyable movie....BUT I LIKE ENDS for the different direction that was taken

Nightwatch, your vid is so comprehensive and informative, I just subscribed to your channel! 👏 Bravo!!

One of the things I didn’t like about the movie was how blasé Laurie was about Michael. She knew he wasn’t dead, just missing. He was “still out there.” She should have still had that sense of fear and paranoia. She acted like everything was fine and life went on.

This is the only movie I've ever seen where everyone walking out of the theater unanimously hated it

I like Halloween Ends 🤷

It would’ve been an ideal story arc if Corey was Alison’s boyfriend Cameron from the first movie, and survives Kills. If the writers and director had known what direction they’d take the story in advance, they would’ve just cast Rohan Campbell for that part from the beginning.

I think Corey’s story was fine, I think it would’ve been better if he was his own killer pretending to be Michael while the real Michael comes out of hiding to take down the fake Michael, so you have two killers running around. Michael doesn’t work as a side character lol he’s best as his own character, doing what he wants to do.

I think the whole movie should have been in Laurie's head and that's what she was writing at the end. That way we can have a do over.

Maybe i missed it, but i really wish David GG would speak out about the negative reception and maybe if he has any regrets or if he wishes they'd have stuck to the original plan. Probably never gonna happen, but it'd be the closure alot of us would appreciate 😂

As a lifelong Myers fan, I was so upset with that trilogy. It was a disgrace to the franchise

The only thing I didn’t like about Halloween kills was evil dies tonight over and over and over and the Tommy Doyle character wasn’t right

I've always said that if this was the plan the whole time, Ends should've been the first entry and the epic battle in Halloween should've been last. I don't hate Ends the way most people do, I just think it's out of place.

They were on a 255 million dollar high and couldn’t finish the story!

For me also Lynsey Wallace was fan favourite in kills to have her survive and not use her in ends was so frustrating. I would have loved to see a showdown between Lauri Lynsey and allison vs Michael . To bring in a new character for the end felt messy to me .

I'd like to know why the book is completely different from the version of Halloween Ends we got

Nothing about the story was cool or clever, he’s a demon level threat and he got killed by a granny who was on her last leg, I don’t see how that’s possible, she didn’t have any of his blood or any powers we knew of, just bizarre, he’s way too powerful to be put down like that, I think it was disrespectful to the character

I enjoyed Halloween Ends, but I wasn't the biggest fan of the Corey character. I agree that it would have been better had Corey been introduced in an earlier film, but I honestly would have made more sense if Allyson would have been the one to go psycho. It would have been a good call back to her clutching the knife at the end of Halloween 2018, and it would have been a great homage to Jamie going nuts at the end of Halloween 4.

"THE fans were right!" about what exactly? Those of us who dont have these issues with the film aren't fans? As DGG said in 2017, no matter what they do, a section of the fans wont like it, Ends was approached no different than the other two. Im fine with people not liking the movies but all this "THE fans dont like it" rhetoric is disingenuous and turning the fandom into what the Star Wars fandom has become. DGG already explained this before Danny said this: "There was a discussion and even through the editing process. Because you could take certain scenes from earlier and move them around. It just felt right. Maybe I'll watch it in two years and think that's too long a gap, but it was important to me to develop characters and understand them in their own way and then introduce how Michael relates to that situation. Because he's so exciting when you see him. Myers just gets people shaking. I was worried that was going to distract from the substance of the Corey/Allyson story as it was developing. " Far as the Ends marketing, they releases the synopsis with the trailer and SOME fans watched it a million times and never read the synopsis attached.

It wasn’t that Corey’s character was bad or even his story was bad. Putting him in the third part of a trilogy was odd placement. I did like the idea of Michael’s evil almost being like a virus that brings out the worst in troubled characters. But it felt like the creators were trying to do something different much in the way Halloween 3 did.

Good point about the marketing of the movie. There were two things that spoiled the movie a bit (and why I only watch a trailer once or twice and avoid any interviews/behind the scenes videos). First was that in the original trailer that was released, you see a whole left hand opening the door, even though Michael's left hand was missing two fingers after the events in 2018. Also, you had Jamie Lee Curtis in an interview saying that the movie opens with every parent's worst nightmare. So, before the movie was even released, we know that there is somebody else other than Michael, and we know that something was going to happen to that little brat at the beginning.

I've found my new horror movie channel. Love this video and your thoughts on it. I'm just waiting on someone to make a movie where Jamie takes up the shape mask.

I don't get why fans are criticizing the David Gordon Green and Danny because I appreciate they took a risk and thried something new with this new trilogy. All of the movies have a different meaning and I get this movie has issues but I came out satisfied.

Had a major issue with Michael Myers getting beat up and then killed in a one on one fight with a Grandma.

for what was built up, in '78, h 18, & kills, they didn't come close in anyway to sticking the landing, on the lori & michael saga. if the corey story was a stand alone film, like season of the witch, no problems with that. dgg, didn't do the legacy charaters, lori & michael justice. just my opinion, i could be wrong.....

I liked the approach of Halloween Ends, I just think it was done poorly. I enjoy the idea of Michael passing the torch/using Corey to reinvigorate himself and to get close to Laurie again. At it's core, it's a great idea. I just feel like it was done in a way that was really neglectful of the premise they had already set up as far as Michael being The Shape who is an evil thing that infects people with fear and that that is what strengthens him and makes him larger than life. At the end of Kills, he murders an entire mob after they beat him senseless, and then he just vanished and he's suddenly weak and needs a conduit for his evil to do his work and strengthen him. That wasn't set up well. You'd think that the fear he invoked that night would have kept him strong if what Laurie said in the end of that movie was true. He's so weak throughout Ends until the conclusion, and it made no sense. Also Corey's inclusion, his descent into evil, and his role in bringing Michael back felt rushed and confusing. It was an amazing concept but executed so incredibly poorly in my opinion.

Great video brother!

The Franchise Dies Tonight

this trilogy was a mess from one jarring movie to the next. story comes first not your message which was way overdone in every movie from pstd to mob mentality to being canceled. it’s obvious that 2 & 3 were slapped together after the success of 1. season of the witch is better than any of these movies and time isnt going to change that. what a terrible way to end an iconic character.

And Michael is technically in Halloween 3...

Personally, Corey as a character isn’t the problem for me. The problem was him being the copycat killer when in reality there was already a character that could’ve worked really well as the new killer in this movie: Allyson. Allyson in this movie treats Laurie like shit and blames her for Michael tyranny and her friends and mom’s deaths but what if it went beyond that? What if after the events of Kills, she continued her hunt for Michael with a few surviving people affected by the events of ‘18 and Kills where they find and succeed in killing Michael? Allyson could take his mask but soon begins to have visions of Michael as the evil takes over her, but instead she tries to control it and use it against and attack other “evil” people, leading to her also being overprotective of her friends, mainly Corey, and soon gets Laurie’s attention whom Allyson has a grudge against. This would honestly not only make Haddonfield blaming Laurie feel more believable, because it indirectly turned her own family into her monster, but it also allows the film to put another unique spin on the final trope.

Should of just done two films or just Halloween ends and I wouldnt been mad

I really didn’t mind the movie and was entertained BUT this movie isn’t the 3rd movie in this trilogy. It feels way out of place, had the Corey story played out over the course of the trilogy it could have been very interesting.

Wait a minute… Are you telling me Danny McBride wrote the screenplay for these new Halloween movies?!…. OHH NOO…

I think ends is the best entry of the trilogy. It will be discussed and revisited more as time goes on with the mythology and overall lore.

You got me thinking...and I'm on board with what you are saying about "Ends" and Cory, and after listening to you point it out very astutely, each movie in the final trilogy did do something different each time-for better or worse. But thinking back on Halloween 78 (after of course the retcon ditching Michael as Lori's brother) and what you are saying about how evil begins represented by Cory's character in Ends, it seems one could talk about the randomness of evil and how it affects the innocent. Lori is innocent teen that has a terrorizing experience and what it did to her over her life, in contrast with Cory as the innocent experiencing Michael and what we might assume is his pathway after his experience. Something akin to evil and its influences on humankind for better and worse. Lori moved forward and tried her best to get by even though we know she had many issues (with good cause), but she fought the evil. Cory is on the opposite side and gave in to the evil and he paid the price for that. Maybe ultimately it's a cautionary tale in the sense of the overarching battle of good against evil. You can fight it but with much suffering and pain over a lifetime that is difficult but you can come out the other side and move forward (I believe Michael's death offers that to Lori and we get that tidbit at movie's end), or you can choose to succumb to the evil but always it seems with the direst of consequences--and you don't have to wait and struggle a lifetime.

People hate on everything though that's what he has to understand. Even if something is good, people are gonna hate. Was the same way with Halloween 3. They tried to do something a little different and people hated on it even though it was a solid film. People just love to hate on stuff it's the "Cool" thing. No one can like things for themselves. Everyone has to be a clone and go along with what everyone else thinks instead of having an opinion of their own and liking what they like.

Not the best Halloween movie...but far from the worst. And easily the best Christine remake, so I'll take it 😉