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talkSPORT's Danny Murphy explains why he is happy that the referee did not give Bayern Munich a penalty after handball from Arsenal's Gabriel.
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@nhlanhladlamini6892
@nhlanhladlamini6892 Месяц назад
Innocent Mistake? He is 25 years of age and is a professional Please stop making these excuses 😂
@87Michael
@87Michael Месяц назад
He’s 22 actually.
@Yewchewb
@Yewchewb Месяц назад
@@87Michaelhe’s 26 what you on about
@rishbademha
@rishbademha Месяц назад
Age has nothing to do with it. He didn’t hear the whistle.
@MrKeefy1967
@MrKeefy1967 Месяц назад
I believe the ref got it spot on. Yes, technically it's a penalty offence. But had it given it, there would have been a furore. No advantage was being sought or gained by what Gabriel did, which is the point of the handball rule. It was a genuine mistake and in the spirit of the game, should not have been punished. It's very similar to a goal Arsenal scored in an FA Cup match against a Steve Bruce team (Sheffield Utd?). An Arsenal player took a quick throw-in, when the other team had deliberately put the ball out, from which Arsenal scored. On realizing the genuine mistake, where a goal was given following the letter of the law, Arsenal FC offered the other team a replay, realizing the letter of the law had been followed rather than the spirit of the game.
@isaacjacobs3785
@isaacjacobs3785 Месяц назад
25? fella do a lot better !!
@tonydhillon4486
@tonydhillon4486 Месяц назад
So if the ball hits a players hand before he has time to react in the box it's a pen but if someone picks the ball up by mistake it's not ? World's gone mad
@MrKeefy1967
@MrKeefy1967 Месяц назад
No, you don't understand because what you said is NOT how the handball law works. I believe the ref got it spot on. Yes, technically it's a penalty offence. But had it given it, there would have been a furore. No advantage was being sought or gained by what Gabriel did, which is the point of the handball rule. It was a genuine mistake and in the spirit of the game, should not have been punished. It's very similar to a goal Arsenal scored in an FA Cup match against a Steve Bruce team (Sheffield Utd?). An Arsenal player took a quick throw-in, when the other team had deliberately put the ball out, from which Arsenal scored. On realizing the genuine mistake, where a goal was given following the letter of the law, Arsenal FC offered the other team a replay, realizing the letter of the law had been followed rather than the spirit of the game.
@jphillip7308
@jphillip7308 Месяц назад
Yes you are 100% correct
@Larry4life
@Larry4life Месяц назад
"a kids mistake" should be the reason for it being a penalty.
@finfog4590
@finfog4590 Месяц назад
Lacking professional integrity
@michaelwallden7261
@michaelwallden7261 Месяц назад
listen...common sense is what we talking about.....
@commanderneyo55
@commanderneyo55 Месяц назад
What are you a United fan? You just come here to cry about arsenal
@troysills425
@troysills425 Месяц назад
Tuchel said that's what the ref said to the players. He didn't even say it to tuchel 😂
@zefe3886
@zefe3886 Месяц назад
​@@commanderneyo55what does it have to do with United ? 🤦
@Krymbo
@Krymbo Месяц назад
It's a penalty in the eyes of everyone with rational thought.
@wavogardylo5780
@wavogardylo5780 Месяц назад
Rational sense? Or just because it's the law....What did Gabriel do that was disadvantageous to bayern?...Almost every other rules deals with circumstances where one team was disadvantaged whether directly or indirectly....How was Bayern disadvantaged by what Gabriel did from a goal kick situation?...
@Krymbo
@Krymbo Месяц назад
@@wavogardylo5780 disadvantaged by not having a legitimate pen 🤷
@wavogardylo5780
@wavogardylo5780 Месяц назад
@@Krymbo How did Gabriel's Action disadvantage bayern?
@mr-ov5gt
@mr-ov5gt Месяц назад
​@@wavogardylo5780by breaking the rules end of
@mikem9309
@mikem9309 Месяц назад
… who wanted Bayern to win
@hicks3749
@hicks3749 Месяц назад
Imagine losing a UCL final by two kids mistakes (Karius)
@KittySofttpaws
@KittySofttpaws Месяц назад
I don't remember him giving away penalties by passing to his team mate, only for them to pick up the ball and give penalties away.
@hicks3749
@hicks3749 Месяц назад
@@KittySofttpaws neither do I but I was clearly referring to the kids mistakes comment so what's your point? I don't remember him doing cartwheels with his shorts down. Lots of things I could add to this.
@40yearoldvirgil15
@40yearoldvirgil15 Месяц назад
I don't understand ur point?
@andrewharrison7767
@andrewharrison7767 Месяц назад
@@hicks3749 you forgetting, or just ignoring Karius had concussion in that game?
@mecan2
@mecan2 Месяц назад
Incomparable
@edniembro1309
@edniembro1309 Месяц назад
Absolutely English bias!! If it was in Bayern and this happened, arsenal fans would be screaming hell and leather!!
@batman1980
@batman1980 Месяц назад
Absolutely! Arsenal fans are even moaning that the Saka dive was a penalty. Arsenal fans are becoming so annoying
@TheEmanram
@TheEmanram Месяц назад
Completely agreed
@kehzito
@kehzito Месяц назад
Then scream on behalf of Bayern if that will make you feel better. Or maybe they should recall the game and give the penalty so that people like you can sleep better at night
@TheEmanram
@TheEmanram Месяц назад
He’s Just calling it as it is. No reason to get you panties in a bunch
@MaticulousGamer
@MaticulousGamer Месяц назад
@@batman1980 they've ALWAYS been annoying. the most deluded lot in the league
@breach5257
@breach5257 Месяц назад
Danny would be irate if the decision was against Liverpool, what Gabriel did was 100% a penalty. plus saka initiated the contact and should have been booked
@user-tz2yp5jl2w
@user-tz2yp5jl2w Месяц назад
Doesn’t makes sense to say if it was against Liverpool because then he’d be biased. He’s a neutral in this and that’s the better position to take
@dannylad1600
@dannylad1600 Месяц назад
I dont think he would tbh.
@MrKeefy1967
@MrKeefy1967 Месяц назад
I believe the ref got it spot on. Yes, technically it's a penalty offence. But had it given it, there would have been a furore. No advantage was being sought or gained by what Gabriel did, which is the point of the handball rule. It was a genuine mistake and in the spirit of the game, should not have been punished. It's very similar to a goal Arsenal scored in an FA Cup match against a Steve Bruce team (Sheffield Utd?). An Arsenal player took a quick throw-in, when the other team had deliberately put the ball out, from which Arsenal scored. On realizing the genuine mistake, where a goal was given following the letter of the law, Arsenal FC offered the other team a replay, realizing the letter of the law had been followed rather than the spirit of the game.
@zwelethumahlalela8685
@zwelethumahlalela8685 Месяц назад
​@@MrKeefy1967we must follow the rules or stop playing, are u insane do we cancel goals based on players faking contact where the is none. Tmeither we follow the rules or the arent any rules.
@MrKeefy1967
@MrKeefy1967 Месяц назад
@@zwelethumahlalela8685 Why? Why must we follow the rules blindly like sheep without engaging our brains or our human instincts? I'm not insane, I'm a human. Are you a machine? An automaton? A computer which blindly follows the logic of its programming and questions nothing, applies zero common sense? I'll leave you with this: Referees are trained to interpret the laws not apply them to the letter.
@whoisthis5476
@whoisthis5476 Месяц назад
This is not a game for children at this level, that HAS to be a penalty. Danny is completely insane for arguing otherwise.
@KevinSheedy10
@KevinSheedy10 Месяц назад
No he's not. Anyone with any sense of sporting integrity wouldn't want to be given a penalty in those circumstances.
@zwelethumahlalela8685
@zwelethumahlalela8685 Месяц назад
We have rules fo a reason, the moment we break them because we feel like it then we are lost. If u go to court for doing something u had no idea was even against the law and the judge k ows for sure u didnt know he still punishes u anyway because ignorance is not a defnce for breaking the rules, Gabriel picked up a ball after a pass from the goalie and that is aganst the rules so it is without a doubt a pen.
@eiler1987
@eiler1987 Месяц назад
@@zwelethumahlalela8685 and a red for deliberate handle in the box. And Raya can’t pick it up cause he just played the ball.
@TheFudbalKlub
@TheFudbalKlub Месяц назад
What? So the ref didn't give the correct call by the letter of the law and it's refreshing? What
@motr1912
@motr1912 Месяц назад
The ref should never be allowed to ref a game again. Totally hopeless.
@pennywise1682
@pennywise1682 Месяц назад
For the love of the game i agree, but you cant tell the players its a kids mistake, lol. Its the quaterfinals of the CL, so much money and prestige on the line and the rules are there for a reason
@dannylad1600
@dannylad1600 Месяц назад
Nah the ref was right. I don't want to see such big games decided by such petty things.
@MrKeefy1967
@MrKeefy1967 Месяц назад
I believe the ref got it spot on. Yes, technically it's a penalty offence. But had it given it, there would have been a furore. No advantage was being sought or gained by what Gabriel did, which is the point of the handball rule. It was a genuine mistake and in the spirit of the game, should not have been punished. It's very similar to a goal Arsenal scored in an FA Cup match against a Steve Bruce team (Sheffield Utd?). An Arsenal player took a quick throw-in, when the other team had deliberately put the ball out, from which Arsenal scored. On realizing the genuine mistake, where a goal was given following the letter of the law, Arsenal FC offered the other team a replay, realizing the letter of the law had been followed rather than the spirit of the game.
@dannylad1600
@dannylad1600 Месяц назад
@@MrKeefy1967, I remember that, and that's a great example. Thomas Tuchal is behaving embarrassingly by trying to claim a penalty over such a petty thing.
@Ghost-tx4ft
@Ghost-tx4ft Месяц назад
so if a keeper plays a poor pass to the striker and he scores, does that count as a school boy error and should be reversed?
@docholiday-lm4vf
@docholiday-lm4vf Месяц назад
No cause that not against the rules
@user-hq7he4xl1w
@user-hq7he4xl1w Месяц назад
@@docholiday-lm4vf I think you missed his point.
@MrKeefy1967
@MrKeefy1967 Месяц назад
I believe the ref got it spot on. Yes, technically it's a penalty offence. But had it given it, there would have been a furore. No advantage was being sought or gained by what Gabriel did, which is the point of the handball rule. It was a genuine mistake and in the spirit of the game, should not have been punished. It's very similar to a goal Arsenal scored in an FA Cup match against a Steve Bruce team (Sheffield Utd?). An Arsenal player took a quick throw-in, when the other team had deliberately put the ball out, from which Arsenal scored. On realizing the genuine mistake, where a goal was given following the letter of the law, Arsenal FC offered the other team a replay, realizing the letter of the law had been followed rather than the spirit of the game.
@richardmcgoldrick78
@richardmcgoldrick78 Месяц назад
Obviously not. Asinine comparison.
@MancityRecap
@MancityRecap Месяц назад
It's called a penalty for a reason 😂😂😂😂
@keithvandermotten9715
@keithvandermotten9715 Месяц назад
It was also a great decision not to give Sakas dive at the end. Well done the ref
@nightowl7459
@nightowl7459 Месяц назад
A dive is a dive, it's not a handball.
@Kurt-mk7kc
@Kurt-mk7kc Месяц назад
Its a clear handball and it’s clear dive
@strollic5162
@strollic5162 Месяц назад
@@Kurt-mk7kc I'll tell you what's a dive. Harvey Elliot against Man United.
@rolandroczei6711
@rolandroczei6711 Месяц назад
You touch the ball, it's a handball, therefore it's a penalty regardless.
@owenthackeray4195
@owenthackeray4195 Месяц назад
Yes all defenders will be picking the ball up.Stonewall penalty
@MrKeefy1967
@MrKeefy1967 Месяц назад
I believe the ref got it spot on. Yes, technically it's a penalty offence. But had it given it, there would have been a furore. No advantage was being sought or gained by what Gabriel did, which is the point of the handball rule. It was a genuine mistake and in the spirit of the game, should not have been punished. It's very similar to a goal Arsenal scored in an FA Cup match against a Steve Bruce team (Sheffield Utd?). An Arsenal player took a quick throw-in, when the other team had deliberately put the ball out, from which Arsenal scored. On realizing the genuine mistake, where a goal was given following the letter of the law, Arsenal FC offered the other team a replay, realizing the letter of the law had been followed rather than the spirit of the game.
@eiler1987
@eiler1987 Месяц назад
@@owenthackeray4195 of how about the keeper doesn’t spot the ball, ref blows whistle to play. Then keeper squares the ball to the cb. And the cb not pick it up and move it back into the 6 to pass it right back to the keeper. Either a red for deliberate handle in the box or a yellow for time wasting.
@vidiveniviciDCLXVI
@vidiveniviciDCLXVI Месяц назад
Professional = Pen, it's not a kids game.
@GamerFrisco
@GamerFrisco Месяц назад
Yes. This.
@vidiveniviciDCLXVI
@vidiveniviciDCLXVI Месяц назад
@@GamerFrisco It's also a Red card, which would have been massive.
@MrKeefy1967
@MrKeefy1967 Месяц назад
I believe the ref got it spot on. Yes, technically it's a penalty offence. But had it given it, there would have been a furore. No advantage was being sought or gained by what Gabriel did, which is the point of the handball rule. It was a genuine mistake and in the spirit of the game, should not have been punished. It's very similar to a goal Arsenal scored in an FA Cup match against a Steve Bruce team (Sheffield Utd?). An Arsenal player took a quick throw-in, when the other team had deliberately put the ball out, from which Arsenal scored. On realizing the genuine mistake, where a goal was given following the letter of the law, Arsenal FC offered the other team a replay, realizing the letter of the law had been followed rather than the spirit of the game.
@vernonharris1184
@vernonharris1184 Месяц назад
@@MrKeefy1967you sound bias…badly
@deightongraham6282
@deightongraham6282 Месяц назад
@@vernonharris1184very , for the fact that he said it was a kid’s mistake, and the argument that saka was denied a pen, that was not a pen saka initiated the contact he kicked out, so it’s dumb to compare both.
@RoadsideGee
@RoadsideGee Месяц назад
Whenever Danny says ‘the reality is…’ He actually means ‘in my opinion…’ 🤣🤣
@olusojimarsh8539
@olusojimarsh8539 Месяц назад
Probably the dumbest thing I have ever heard Murphy say.
@dannylad1600
@dannylad1600 Месяц назад
Na he's 💯 right. I don't want to see big games like that decided by such petty things.
@MrKeefy1967
@MrKeefy1967 Месяц назад
I believe the ref got it spot on. Yes, technically it's a penalty offence. But had it given it, there would have been a furore. No advantage was being sought or gained by what Gabriel did, which is the point of the handball rule. It was a genuine mistake and in the spirit of the game, should not have been punished. It's very similar to a goal Arsenal scored in an FA Cup match against a Steve Bruce team (Sheffield Utd?). An Arsenal player took a quick throw-in, when the other team had deliberately put the ball out, from which Arsenal scored. On realizing the genuine mistake, where a goal was given following the letter of the law, Arsenal FC offered the other team a replay, realizing the letter of the law had been followed rather than the spirit of the game.
@dannymac1793
@dannymac1793 Месяц назад
And that's saying something
@Cafez27
@Cafez27 Месяц назад
I rarely agree with Danny, but on this he is spot on. Common sense prevailed well done referee
@MrKeefy1967
@MrKeefy1967 Месяц назад
@@Cafez27 Well said Sir. I was beginning to think I was the only sane one on here!
@Triple_X_X
@Triple_X_X Месяц назад
"You don't wanna win games like that"?? Who cares!! 😂 If i deserve to get a pen, give me my damn penalty..Who cares if it's beautiful or it'll destroy the status of the match 😂 Are these guys football pundits or just English dudes in a studio? 😂
@Pantifaximile
@Pantifaximile Месяц назад
Don't know about the others, but Danny Murphy is a sportsman and he's doing sportsmanship. You know, like when a team kicks the ball out for an injured player.
@sdm_za
@sdm_za Месяц назад
​@@Pantifaximile handling the ball in the penalty box has nothing to do with sportsmanship
@MrKeefy1967
@MrKeefy1967 Месяц назад
I believe the ref got it spot on. Yes, technically it's a penalty offence. But had it given it, there would have been a furore. No advantage was being sought or gained by what Gabriel did, which is the point of the handball rule. It was a genuine mistake and in the spirit of the game, should not have been punished. It's very similar to a goal Arsenal scored in an FA Cup match against a Steve Bruce team (Sheffield Utd?). An Arsenal player took a quick throw-in, when the other team had deliberately put the ball out, from which Arsenal scored. On realizing the genuine mistake, where a goal was given following the letter of the law, Arsenal FC offered the other team a replay, realizing the letter of the law had been followed rather than the spirit of the game.
@dannylad1600
@dannylad1600 Месяц назад
​@@sdm_za, it kinda has. It's about trying to win a big game on merit, and not some petty technicality.
@Marais-cu3vo
@Marais-cu3vo Месяц назад
Yeah I don’t remember Danny Murphy condemning Jota for diving against Newcastle in the 1 January game.
@simbrit7970
@simbrit7970 Месяц назад
This is the champions league not a u10 development league...shocking decision
@willc6434
@willc6434 Месяц назад
It's no different to players chucking the ball to someone else who is on the pitch for them to take the throw in.. it's a foul throw followed by a handball
@SouthJerzVillains
@SouthJerzVillains Месяц назад
Except that wouldn’t warrant a penalty not the same thing
@westhamjimbo
@westhamjimbo Месяц назад
@@SouthJerzVillainsexcept it is. It would be a free kick. The exactly what a penalty is.
@MCFCTheMadHatter
@MCFCTheMadHatter Месяц назад
So do footballers make silly childish mistakes during games? Yes. Are they penalized for those childish errors? Yes. How so? With penalties, Red cards, yellow cards, free kicks, fouls etc. So why should this be any different for Gabriel??
@jamiecook4288
@jamiecook4288 Месяц назад
It's a penalty, simple. Nevermind the narrative, situation or "story".
@Ghost-tx4ft
@Ghost-tx4ft Месяц назад
doesnt matter what the players told Tuchel, it was a clear clear pen, this has been the clearest pen in the last 100 years.
@MrKeefy1967
@MrKeefy1967 Месяц назад
I believe the ref got it spot on. Yes, technically it's a penalty offence. But had it given it, there would have been a furore. No advantage was being sought or gained by what Gabriel did, which is the point of the handball rule. It was a genuine mistake and in the spirit of the game, should not have been punished. It's very similar to a goal Arsenal scored in an FA Cup match against a Steve Bruce team (Sheffield Utd?). An Arsenal player took a quick throw-in, when the other team had deliberately put the ball out, from which Arsenal scored. On realizing the genuine mistake, where a goal was given following the letter of the law, Arsenal FC offered the other team a replay, realizing the letter of the law had been followed rather than the spirit of the game.
@parryoyakhire6568
@parryoyakhire6568 Месяц назад
​@MrKeefy1967 you're spot, the reason for penalty punishment for an offence for trying to gain undue advantage in the box 18, so if that is not established just like a handball that is not not meant to gain advantage because they are not dangling in the air or trying to block a shot or cross, alot of fans need to understand that there are occasions referees will have to use their discretion in interpreting these decisions
@tomclarke5237
@tomclarke5237 Месяц назад
Kane should have been sent off he’s done it before!
@atikurrahman9304
@atikurrahman9304 Месяц назад
He's a professional footballer.... Pen
@superkopite
@superkopite Месяц назад
When Quansah innocently passed the ball back to Fernándes the ref should have called play back because it was a silly mistake
@user-qh1lp7bi2y
@user-qh1lp7bi2y Месяц назад
Great analogy
@shafiqnasim1655
@shafiqnasim1655 Месяц назад
😂 nailed it
@KevinSheedy10
@KevinSheedy10 Месяц назад
That's completely different.
@shanem19761
@shanem19761 Месяц назад
exactly...schoolboy error! 😂😂
@henkkoonstra4014
@henkkoonstra4014 Месяц назад
​@@KevinSheedy10 it was just a littke error. he wasnt ready yet!
@anthonywade5200
@anthonywade5200 Месяц назад
Saka kicked the keeper...........
@Dave-nq6uy
@Dave-nq6uy Месяц назад
And went complaining about his dive to the ref. Saka is world class in diving
@tonyburton5706
@tonyburton5706 Месяц назад
Is Murphy back on the white stuff.
@tm8844
@tm8844 Месяц назад
He's always on it
@GamerFrisco
@GamerFrisco Месяц назад
Yes
@thekid8100
@thekid8100 Месяц назад
He has some shocking opinions
@famousmortimer7933
@famousmortimer7933 Месяц назад
Semen? Yes, he can’t get enough.
@philipmoore9906
@philipmoore9906 Месяц назад
Lol
@Jim90117
@Jim90117 Месяц назад
It didn't look natural, Saka was definitely looking for it
@deanyvoys2181
@deanyvoys2181 Месяц назад
Arsenal fan. I agree. Saw Elliot do it and win a pen at the weekend.
@fqq4137
@fqq4137 Месяц назад
@@deanyvoys2181well that’s liverpool, let their fans justify it
@starryian007
@starryian007 Месяц назад
@@deanyvoys2181 The Elliott pen was totally different, If a defender scythes his leg across the path of an attacking player - making contact then that is a penalty - intent or not.. It's as simple as that. Picking up a ball in the penalty area is handball and therefore a penalty. Saka thrust his leg FORWARD (This is obvious by watching the slo-mo) onto a goalkeeper in a desperate effort to con the ref into blowing for a pen. That it NOT a penalty.
@deanyvoys2181
@deanyvoys2181 Месяц назад
@@fqq4137 ha yeah, I was making a statement rather than justifying. He should have stayed up. But if he got the pen I would have been pleased even whilst thinking this behaviour isn't 'right'. Vardy won tons of pens throwing his trailing legs into defenders. Would like to see it removed from the game ideally
@decode3667
@decode3667 Месяц назад
Saka jumped into Neuer, he wasn't in control of his body. He was like a kick boxer that kicked Neuer. If Saka didn't jump half a meter before contact, it's a penalty but he jumped a meter or half before contact.
@denisako6493
@denisako6493 Месяц назад
If it's a penalty it's a penalty
@MrKeefy1967
@MrKeefy1967 Месяц назад
I believe the ref got it spot on. Yes, technically it's a penalty offence. But had it given it, there would have been a furore. No advantage was being sought or gained by what Gabriel did, which is the point of the handball rule. It was a genuine mistake and in the spirit of the game, should not have been punished. It's very similar to a goal Arsenal scored in an FA Cup match against a Steve Bruce team (Sheffield Utd?). An Arsenal player took a quick throw-in, when the other team had deliberately put the ball out, from which Arsenal scored. On realizing the genuine mistake, where a goal was given following the letter of the law, Arsenal FC offered the other team a replay, realizing the letter of the law had been followed rather than the spirit of the game.
@bobsocks7575
@bobsocks7575 Месяц назад
@@MrKeefy1967Cut and paste in overdrive today
@keithbaker4589
@keithbaker4589 Месяц назад
@@bobsocks7575 Agreed! But it is the same answer to all those making the same point, so why not? Apologies if you're having to read it numerous times!
@wavogardylo5780
@wavogardylo5780 Месяц назад
So nuance shouldn't exist in football then? I believe that Only actions that give another team unfairly treatment/ advantage should be penalized...laws? You know it's deem illegal to linger after a funeral in the UK , that's how I would contextualize the Gabriel incident.
@denisako6493
@denisako6493 Месяц назад
@@wavogardylo5780 yeah but every arsenal fan should accept it should have been a penalty
@Wazza.10
@Wazza.10 Месяц назад
Ask Danny if Elliott's was a pen and he will definitely say 100% it was.
@stephendwane8166
@stephendwane8166 Месяц назад
Teams don’t care how they win, Danny’s point is ridiculous, they dive n cheat where they can to win, if a team wants to take moral high ground, they can miss the penalty but Bayern should have had the penalty regardless of if it’s “right” , high stakes, mistakes are punished
@Adamjames123
@Adamjames123 Месяц назад
Imagine arsenal fans if this was against them
@adrians-ro8kk
@adrians-ro8kk Месяц назад
Arsenal QANON would go crazy
@fanfavouritetv1287
@fanfavouritetv1287 Месяц назад
Raya and Gabriel keeps doing that thing in many games.
@antonyallen8025
@antonyallen8025 Месяц назад
Erm, it was 2-1 to Bayern at the time of when they should have been given a penalty. Its a school boy error made in a professional game and it should have been punished as such
@MrKeefy1967
@MrKeefy1967 Месяц назад
I believe the ref got it spot on. Yes, technically it's a penalty offence. But had it given it, there would have been a furore. No advantage was being sought or gained by what Gabriel did, which is the point of the handball rule. It was a genuine mistake and in the spirit of the game, should not have been punished. It's very similar to a goal Arsenal scored in an FA Cup match against a Steve Bruce team (Sheffield Utd?). An Arsenal player took a quick throw-in, when the other team had deliberately put the ball out, from which Arsenal scored. On realizing the genuine mistake, where a goal was given following the letter of the law, Arsenal FC offered the other team a replay, realizing the letter of the law had been followed rather than the spirit of the game.
@mr-ov5gt
@mr-ov5gt Месяц назад
​@@MrKeefy1967 literally the worst argument ever.. it doesnt matter about how it affects the game or what the intentions were its a pen
@Behold__Optic_Blast
@Behold__Optic_Blast Месяц назад
@@mr-ov5gt according to this guy's logic, arsenal defenders could be allowed to play basketball in the penalty area as long as Bayern don't chase them down lol. I mean, no advantage is being gained, right? 🤣 We can even let backpasses be allowed too if there's no advantage being gained. People living in cloud cuckooland out here...
@TheHesseJames
@TheHesseJames Месяц назад
Imagine going out of a CL quartefinal because the ref decided to let the clearest handball in football's history slide because it "was an honest mistake"!
@dchampionpraisekeyz8341
@dchampionpraisekeyz8341 Месяц назад
Until refs start giving fouls for throwing, I can't see this as a penalty. Throwing currently: A player picks the ball outside and throws it infield to another player who catches it and goes out to throw the ball into the field. Then going forward, such Gabriel type of handball should be an indirect free kick as such a foul wasn't instigated by any Bayern player
@SouthJerzVillains
@SouthJerzVillains Месяц назад
Those are not in the penalty box let’s stop playing dumb here
@dchampionpraisekeyz8341
@dchampionpraisekeyz8341 Месяц назад
@@SouthJerzVillains So your logic is foul outside penalty box shouldn't be awarded or what? Please explain as you seem so intelligent
@BenDRobinson
@BenDRobinson Месяц назад
@@SouthJerzVillains it's the same principle. The fact that an overly technical ruling here would have resulted in a penalty is all the MORE reason to apply common sense.
@Document_with_Bryan
@Document_with_Bryan Месяц назад
Then why are there even rules in the game when it’s not followed ? Doesn’t make no sense then this same media people complain about decisions in the PL on a regular
@blackkid128
@blackkid128 Месяц назад
Read the rule book to avoid this confusion
@Document_with_Bryan
@Document_with_Bryan Месяц назад
@@blackkid128 bruh it’s literally a penalty
@blackkid128
@blackkid128 Месяц назад
@@Document_with_Bryan read what I said again
@Document_with_Bryan
@Document_with_Bryan Месяц назад
@@blackkid128 Okay sir.
@brawrecords
@brawrecords Месяц назад
Completely wrong murphy. Next, you'll be asking the referees to determine whether the guy meant to hand the ball it. Same difference
@omarelorza2201
@omarelorza2201 Месяц назад
Pen is a pen, Arsenal should have lost.
@MrKeefy1967
@MrKeefy1967 Месяц назад
I believe the ref got it spot on. Yes, technically it's a penalty offence. But had it given it, there would have been a furore. No advantage was being sought or gained by what Gabriel did, which is the point of the handball rule. It was a genuine mistake and in the spirit of the game, should not have been punished. It's very similar to a goal Arsenal scored in an FA Cup match against a Steve Bruce team (Sheffield Utd?). An Arsenal player took a quick throw-in, when the other team had deliberately put the ball out, from which Arsenal scored. On realizing the genuine mistake, where a goal was given following the letter of the law, Arsenal FC offered the other team a replay, realizing the letter of the law had been followed rather than the spirit of the game.
@Dazzerthegooner666
@Dazzerthegooner666 Месяц назад
lol pens can be missed or saved so this could have been a draw
@88Masonc
@88Masonc Месяц назад
Bayern should have lost. 2 goals from arsenal errors rather than better football
@Jac76906
@Jac76906 Месяц назад
​@@88Masoncwhat the f does that mean. Did you start watching football yesterday
@88Masonc
@88Masonc Месяц назад
@@Jac76906 its a response to the original comment using his same logic over who should have lost. Mind your business and you might follow along
@Dan-kb9vr
@Dan-kb9vr Месяц назад
Gabriel is not a kid. He’s a 26 year old professional player
@mercurialblonde
@mercurialblonde Месяц назад
Making a kid's mistake when you are a highly paid professional SHOULD be punished. There's too much at stake to allow that level of bias.
@alfredthegreat9543
@alfredthegreat9543 Месяц назад
He obviously thought he was taking the goal kick and hadn't heard the whistle.
@footballtalk5798
@footballtalk5798 Месяц назад
So if a striker doesn't hear the whistle for offside, it's okay
@docholiday-lm4vf
@docholiday-lm4vf Месяц назад
Even ian wright said it was never a penalty. Saka. Has himself to blame
@DonalPower-gv5vx
@DonalPower-gv5vx Месяц назад
😂 seriously Danny should know better for playing the game It's a clear penalty especially when the referee blew his whistle and he handled it straight after
@factzoverfeelings7503
@factzoverfeelings7503 Месяц назад
Bellingham has clearly adopted the Madrid cheating/diving ways. He was an embarrassment yesterday. Diving all over the pitch like a professional diver FFS. Ugly and embarrassing to watch young talented footballers act like that sadly
@EgoCityGamingUK
@EgoCityGamingUK Месяц назад
It doesn’t matter how good the game was the fact is there was a mistake that should have been punished.. when millions of pounds are involved you can’t just go “kids decision” it’s ludicrous that referees have the power to choose what rules to follow and what to ignore…
@BenDRobinson
@BenDRobinson Месяц назад
and yet, law 5.2 says they do
@dirtygunslinger9835
@dirtygunslinger9835 Месяц назад
I must admit, I didn’t even notice in normal time. The first I heard of it was when Thomas Tuchel was complaining afterwards.
@matthewbarber13
@matthewbarber13 Месяц назад
Neither did I, I don’t think anyone did and are all piping up because Tuchel said it after the game. The commentators didn’t pick up on it.
@paulmallon9292
@paulmallon9292 Месяц назад
Yeah i have to say i didn't pick up on it either. At the end of the day, it's not really relevant though. It was a penalty.
@matthewbarber13
@matthewbarber13 Месяц назад
@@paulmallon9292 my understanding of it was that the ref didn’t say it was a mistake but he told the Bayern players that he told them to retake. So unless the ref clarifies it no one will really know if it was a mistake on his part or he told Raya/Gabrielle to retake. That’s how it looked in real time, that it was the routine that they usually do Raya gives Gabriel the ball and Gabriel restarts passing it Raya.
@paulmallon9292
@paulmallon9292 Месяц назад
@@matthewbarber13 Yeah, if that's true then that's a fair point.
@matthewbarber13
@matthewbarber13 Месяц назад
@@paulmallon9292in all honesty I was glad to watch the game without so much VAR interference.
@shanem19761
@shanem19761 Месяц назад
Handball was a penalty, shouldn’t be a question and Saka incident was not a penalty, Neuer stood his ground and Saka kicked his leg out to obtain/win the foul, also…shouldn’t be a question. That’s my opinion as a football fan, club allegiance doesn’t enter into it!
@dannylad1600
@dannylad1600 Месяц назад
Do you really want to see a CL quarter decided over a call as petty as that? No thanks, and well done ref.
@MrKeefy1967
@MrKeefy1967 Месяц назад
I believe the ref got it spot on. Yes, technically it's a penalty offence. But had it given it, there would have been a furore. No advantage was being sought or gained by what Gabriel did, which is the point of the handball rule. It was a genuine mistake and in the spirit of the game, should not have been punished. It's very similar to a goal Arsenal scored in an FA Cup match against a Steve Bruce team (Sheffield Utd?). An Arsenal player took a quick throw-in, when the other team had deliberately put the ball out, from which Arsenal scored. On realizing the genuine mistake, where a goal was given following the letter of the law, Arsenal FC offered the other team a replay, realizing the letter of the law had been followed rather than the spirit of the game.
@shanem19761
@shanem19761 Месяц назад
@@MrKeefy1967 nowhere in the handball rule does the word "advantage" feature...so it's ludicrous to suggest that's the "point of the handball rule". if "technically" it's a penalty offence, then "technically"...it should've been given! (btw, perhaps someone should remind Saka of the "Spirit of the game" 😜)
@MrKeefy1967
@MrKeefy1967 Месяц назад
@@shanem19761 It's common sense, something you clearly lack. Common sense trumps the rulebook EVERY time, which is why we have human beings as refs, not robots. A rulebook can not cover every possible eventuality, sometimes the principle of common sense has to be applied. The handball rule was conceived to penalise someone gaining an advantage from the ball hitting their hand, which is why the principle of accidental handball was incorporated - you don't want to penalise someone who wasn't seeking to gain an advantage and didn't gain an advantage. This has been modified over time so that now we have the rule that says even if a handball was accidental, if a forward gains an advantage (ie a goal is scored directly or indirectly) it has to be penalised. Yes, technically it should have been given - 100%. But common sense should always overrule a technicality and we should celebrate this, not pedantically scream "rules are rules and we don't have the common sense to disregard them when necessary".
@eiler1987
@eiler1987 Месяц назад
@@MrKeefy1967 it could be a red as well because it’s a deliberate handle of the ball in the box.
@ordro107
@ordro107 Месяц назад
This kindof stuff happens it’s like when they pass the ball from one free thrower to the fullback and accidentally throw it over head. Chill out guys . Gabriel should learn to control his nerves
@deanburns8174
@deanburns8174 Месяц назад
Murphy needs his head checking
@ScottsBigCountry
@ScottsBigCountry Месяц назад
Dare to think of Dannys reaction had a Bayern defender had done the same thing.
@K3Y53R_S0Z3
@K3Y53R_S0Z3 Месяц назад
If a City defender had picked up a ball in the area… everyone would be saying Penalty! 😂
@markt804
@markt804 Месяц назад
Had the pen been given, there would be no argument about it.
@d-vardcage3446
@d-vardcage3446 Месяц назад
I get what Danny’s saying here. However, if the shirts were reversed Arteta would be screaming through the roof it should have been a pen.
@owenthackeray4195
@owenthackeray4195 Месяц назад
Well to be fair. He didn't complain about Saka penalty appeal. So it is what it is I suppose.
@szadol77
@szadol77 Месяц назад
@@owenthackeray4195 Because Saka's dive wasn't a penalty.
@KennyK8
@KennyK8 Месяц назад
If you want to follow the law strictly, then it is not only a penalty but a red card as well for handling the ball.
@johndennis6337
@johndennis6337 Месяц назад
The clearest Hand Penalty you will ever see and Arsenal Fans are complaining.
@debashishsarma883
@debashishsarma883 Месяц назад
Cricket is known as the gentleman's game for a reason. Can't see such sportsmanship in football
@northlondonforever__
@northlondonforever__ Месяц назад
They needed that ref earlier in the season in the Spurs Liverpool game. A ref that uses common sense and is not scared of the consequences. And the Saka incident was never a penalty in a million years.
@ftballfrkk1098
@ftballfrkk1098 Месяц назад
Hold on, so I get played a pass by the keeper which I can’t really control…. I should really be able to catch the ball and take it back to reset
@ted5669
@ted5669 Месяц назад
Praising bad refereeing? I think his brain is fuddled
@Welchy-TV
@Welchy-TV Месяц назад
The rationale behind this conversation is astonishing. I don't think I have ever heard a pundit contradict themselves more times than Dany did here in the space of about 5 minutes.
@VR46314
@VR46314 Месяц назад
Everyone knows he’s a diver , booked aged 18 for diving , under emery arsenal were the most booked team in pl history for diving. Ian wright did a article after he dived vs Southampton and was booked and then vs psv and wasn’t booked
@BantsTV
@BantsTV Месяц назад
Booked age 18 now he’s 22 but he’s a diver … come on that’s hate on the kid it’s a 50-50 decision if the ref gave a penalty it wouldn’t have been overturned the gk legs was out but saka was reach
@BantsTV
@BantsTV Месяц назад
Would you say Kane is a cheat for the one time he elbow gabi in the face ? On another day that’s a red … there’s a underlying prejudice tone in your statement bro this is 2024 check yourself
@turbo9321
@turbo9321 Месяц назад
2024 and gooners stay scummy . Always will be
@YamboEmmanuel
@YamboEmmanuel Месяц назад
​@turbo9321 coming from a spurs fan😂
@simon8089
@simon8089 Месяц назад
What are your clubs up to on a Tuesday night?😂 Bitter mugs
@Youtubejim87
@Youtubejim87 Месяц назад
It was a penalty 100% no matter what Danny saying a team don't wanna win that way I know united would take that next week in the fa cup
@kieran9882
@kieran9882 Месяц назад
I still can’t get over the beach ball deflection Darrent Bent scored against Liverpool being given
@Sauvage_Foxes
@Sauvage_Foxes Месяц назад
HAHA As an Aussie I love when you poms bring up the bairstow incident. Still sobbing
@jackmellor5536
@jackmellor5536 Месяц назад
If a Borussia Dortmund player did that in Der Klassiker against Bayern in the Bundesliga or DFB, the ref would point to the spot without hesitation.
@user-jl8pw5by1c
@user-jl8pw5by1c Месяц назад
Image for a moment…Bayern would have made this break of rule Mr Murphy?
@MB-AFC
@MB-AFC Месяц назад
I hate this, but I have to agree with Simon... he didn't give Saka a penalty because he didn't give the hand ball by Gabriel. So me as an Arsenal fan one as just cancelled the other out. Also, Saka was failed and was a penalty.
@jimshelley8831
@jimshelley8831 Месяц назад
It was never pen Saka just ran into Neurer
@Fiachraraven
@Fiachraraven Месяц назад
Poor ol’ Danny was addicted to the hash.
@ruddock7
@ruddock7 Месяц назад
What the hell is Murphy talking about? If this happened against Liverpool in the final game to win the league he would never stop going on about it!!
@dannylad1600
@dannylad1600 Месяц назад
No he wouldn't
@ianwebster4329
@ianwebster4329 Месяц назад
Deliberate handball in the penalty area is a penalty. The cuplrits brain freeze is neither here nor there. I do agree that it would be a lousy way to influence the tie, but the ref's job is to apply the laws of the game - not make judgement on them.
@bruce6014
@bruce6014 Месяц назад
Where was VAR on the handball?
@simon8089
@simon8089 Месяц назад
And the other peno decision? The Kane elbow etc
@stewbie5086
@stewbie5086 Месяц назад
@@simon8089”what about? what about? what about? what about? Pathetic Whataboutery
@simon8089
@simon8089 Месяц назад
@@stewbie5086 you said it Stewie, the result is the result is the result, end of!
@simon8089
@simon8089 Месяц назад
Just be thankful you're not a spuds fan, the feelgood club😂
@tago69mago671
@tago69mago671 Месяц назад
Or the one where Kane was thrown to the floor in the penalty area during a Bayern corner!
@kurtsudheim825
@kurtsudheim825 Месяц назад
"A lot of mistakes against us", like not having a pen go against you, or Harry getting a red for malicious intent
@TheRickydamen
@TheRickydamen Месяц назад
Don't think we'll be seeing this Referee again for a good while
@Marais-cu3vo
@Marais-cu3vo Месяц назад
It’s a mistake from the referee, intention doesn’t matter. It should have been a penalty.
@KevinSheedy10
@KevinSheedy10 Месяц назад
According to the rules you're correct but the referee made the correct moral and sporting decision. I wouldn't want to win any sporting competition on a technicality like that.
@swannymcswan7580
@swannymcswan7580 Месяц назад
"Im not going to decide a quarter final" i guess thats a telling statement of who the ref is rooting for. Because NOT giving the penalty IS deciding it just as much as not.
@robertcooke963
@robertcooke963 Месяц назад
The referee got it absolutely right, that would be no way to decided a game of football. Applying common sense, something we ask for every week from the refs.
@mikem9309
@mikem9309 Месяц назад
It’s been a long time since common sense was applied
@partogisimbolon8883
@partogisimbolon8883 Месяц назад
i've watched football all my life mostly english league and serie A. I've seen similar to gabriel's incident and ref never gave it as a pen and opponents never asked a pen out of such incident. Usually ref will start over.
@romanovinkler6229
@romanovinkler6229 Месяц назад
Common sense means that Munchens GK held the ball into his hands for more than 6 seconds and the referee didn't give Arsenal an indirect free kick. The same happened with Gabriel's handball. It wasn't a goals chance either.
@joefernandes4256
@joefernandes4256 Месяц назад
Another way to look at this is inspite of clear red cards players are not booked or simply given yellow, so this isn't the first time rules are been broken.
@mariusschulz2926
@mariusschulz2926 Месяц назад
The caller is right, this is the best Show ! And Simon Danny and Jim should get an Award for this!👍👏
@GGMU100
@GGMU100 Месяц назад
Should praise him for not giving saka one defo the correct decision
@troelsmalmnielsen5066
@troelsmalmnielsen5066 Месяц назад
Remember kids mistake is Tuchels words…. Rayas leg is starting his kick towards Gabriel before the whistle… could it be a premature whistle? And the ref acknowledning his error decides not to give the penalty
@Gigity1107
@Gigity1107 Месяц назад
I thought live that the Saka one wasn't a penalty. But I've since seen some replays and stills from other angles and its more obvious, Neuer's foot is moving towards Saka the whole time. Penalty all day. VAR check was so quick, they can't of seen many angles.
@ashutoshbhushan7384
@ashutoshbhushan7384 Месяц назад
Daniel Murphy is the only sensible and smart guy on this panel lol
@davidmcmanus2464
@davidmcmanus2464 Месяц назад
It was handball no question.
@dingdoneitsgone9348
@dingdoneitsgone9348 Месяц назад
Rules are rules, its like entertainment comes first especially when it comes to the prem. Commentators dont want 11 v 10 when someone stops a goal scoring opportunity they openly state it. Rules are rules sorry, pen for Munich, no pen for Arsenal but Kane sent off he knew what he was doing.
@witton6475
@witton6475 Месяц назад
Murphy you 🤡. It was a penalty. Trying to barter it with Saka’s dive is a joke.
@MrKeefy1967
@MrKeefy1967 Месяц назад
I believe the ref got it spot on. Yes, technically it's a penalty offence. But had it given it, there would have been a furore. No advantage was being sought or gained by what Gabriel did, which is the point of the handball rule. It was a genuine mistake and in the spirit of the game, should not have been punished. It's very similar to a goal Arsenal scored in an FA Cup match against a Steve Bruce team (Sheffield Utd?). An Arsenal player took a quick throw-in, when the other team had deliberately put the ball out, from which Arsenal scored. On realizing the genuine mistake, where a goal was given following the letter of the law, Arsenal FC offered the other team a replay, realizing the letter of the law had been followed rather than the spirit of the game.
@witton6475
@witton6475 Месяц назад
@@MrKeefy1967 ahh yes, the comparative defence argument. IT WAS HANDBALL!
@dwibs93
@dwibs93 Месяц назад
If it’s true the ref said “not giving that at a CL quarter final”, he needs to check himself. What time of the season the game is doesn’t matter in terms of application of the rules.
@LievenSerge
@LievenSerge Месяц назад
Well at least the ref made it up by recognising Saka's dive.
@danielwilkinson9685
@danielwilkinson9685 Месяц назад
Gabriel made a kids mistake, the referee made an adult mistake.
@Ryan-ep4py
@Ryan-ep4py Месяц назад
“You don’t wanna win a game like that” is Danny defence of that clear pen decision that should’ve helped Bayern win. If that was in the UCL final, then hell yeah id wanna win like that. It’s a clear pen, Danny even admits it. What is this man 😂
@dickybow4119
@dickybow4119 Месяц назад
More power to you Danny. Speaking sense. Saka one wasn’t a penalty. Sané also chose to make the most of minimal contact. No penalty either. Threshold MUST be higher for 80% goal scoring chances. End the hand out mentality of demanding penalties for everything
@kylemanutd8
@kylemanutd8 Месяц назад
In the UCL the hand ball rule is less subjective, they literally give pens when the ball accidentally touches a defenders hands in the dying minutes of games. Why do they not use the same “common sense” argument with those calls? It’s a clear cut pen, just because it’s a school boy error doesn’t mean it’s not a pen.
@Cafez27
@Cafez27 Месяц назад
I applaud the referee for using his common sense, well done to him.
@IggyGoesPop666
@IggyGoesPop666 Месяц назад
Do it Jordan, buy Shef Wednesday and please .... please .... PLEASE take David Moyes as your manager
@claudemakelele2856
@claudemakelele2856 Месяц назад
If he a goalkeeper comes out and mistakenly takes out a striker, we shouldn't give the pen because it is a school boy mistake? Okay..right
@rinaldiibrahim3564
@rinaldiibrahim3564 Месяц назад
It's not comparable with your example
@bubu60112
@bubu60112 Месяц назад
What a poor example. Not comparable at all
@Daniel-ln6jn
@Daniel-ln6jn Месяц назад
Absolutely a mistake by the ref but I can't agree with Murphy when he said it was a innocent mistake. Gabriel took a massive risk and got away with it.
@BenDRobinson
@BenDRobinson Месяц назад
Has anyone drawn comparisons to cricket? When a batsman picks up the ball and tosses it to the bowler to save time, technically that's out every time, but no one wants to see bowlers appealing and getting the wicket that way.
@michaelfisher5690
@michaelfisher5690 Месяц назад
Bayern were halfway up the pitch, what impact did this have on the game? I didn’t even realise it happened
@kurtsudheim825
@kurtsudheim825 Месяц назад
"That means he's judging handball", you mean DOING HIS JOB? That's exactly what a ref is supposed to do: interpret the laws. That's why we don't have robots.
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