@@ReapZer027 He mentioned Michael B Jordan. When he was broke he was corny, now he's rich and he's handsome. Has nothing to do with him being a nerd. That is not the attraction factor for anyone.
@@TheDarkAdventure by bringing head shots to school and because of his name. So not really a good comparison in terms of the nerdy he’s describing. Also I doubt him being broke, would keep women from liking him.
@@ReapZer027 that was literally it. Nothing has changed. It was a part of his job to bring those headshots. Just like people bring a duffle bag for sports or their work clothes. No difference. If he was bringing guns and drugs to school would they have called him corny?
Right like how u gonna use vader and mark from rdc as examples of nerds getting girls like they dont have millions of followers and over a 100M views combined & both 6ft or taller
@@ninob2184 using Mark is crazy in general because he's attractive, got clout, got money and is very passionate. Who isn't gonna be attracted to that in some capacity?
@@certification_papi4259 what Flat saying is, being a nerd doesn't give you cat! All the girls saying that on twitter are OF 304's coincidentely *wink wink* When women say they love men who are into computer/manga etc.. They hypocritically skip that that man MUST be attractive FIRST, therefore they don't really give a damn if you like anime because you were hot to begin with! Daquan throughout all the gadamn video is agreeing with that fact that you must be pretty, have style to get girls but still antagonize Flat which is stupid and we all know why he does this, it's because he is friends with many of these OFans h0ez
@@AriseOozaru but it wasn’t false 😂. There’s women that like nerds. It’s just they don’t like ugly, weird mfs. There’s people that’s ugly and weird that ain’t nerds. Yes the tweet was vague but looking that deep into that tweet is weird. If it’s content, let it be just that: CONTENT. If you can’t get women find out why. There’s no way you can look at a guy be weird around women, ugly, and challenge women on bullshit and think damn “I can’t figure out why he doesn’t get women”. It’s literally obvious 😂
I think people are lacking the IQ of what they’re saying. Flat top is saying that black girls in the anime committee only like nerds, if they were attractive like Michael B Jordan. But he’s also doing the same thing, he not focusing on the average looking girls that also like anime, his focuses on celebrities and pretty women who have a OF account that like anime Daquan is saying that if you can’t get these bitches, then leave them go, and after the ones who likes the same hobbies that’s in your lane. Like the small portion of the video of black girls who were average looking back, then wasn’t getting any attention from other nerds. They improved on themselves and it looks and have more attention and more now. But yeah, you guys want to act like they won’t fuck with you even though they would have back then, you just didn’t wanna fuck with them.
Flattop never once implied that he's entitled to women who claim to like nerds, he was pointing out that a lot of people are capping. Case and point: the Onlyfans girls. YOU LITERALLY PROVED HIS POINT... How you prove and miss the point at the same time too? Stop taking this man out of context. I'm so tired of the "you're just an incel" argument. Are men not allowed to vent? No hate was intended, brother. I feel like you know what you're doing but hopefully I'm wrong.
Perfect point. Any nerd who had a glow-up can attest to this. You don't even need social skills if you look good enough. I did in 10th grade. And didn't have good social skills till like near the end of 11th grade. But due to my 10th grade glow-up, I had no problems getting girls. Even when saying the most inane statements. But from 7th through 9th grade, nothing. The only difference between 9th grade me and 10th grade me was my appearance. But that one change got me plenty of female attention. To the point where I got complements and hit on by girls who ignored me the previous year. I'm not going to say social skills are 100% irrelevant. There certainly are guys who can talk their way into a chick's panties. But your look is definitely the main cheat code. 😉
I’m a min in and I haven’t even watch the video he reacting to and I can already tell. Just from the tile of the guys video alone I can see he has a point. Women don’t really like “nerdy men” per say but rather a cold as nigha, or think of the “Chad” or “Tyrone” archetype that happens to enjoy “nerdy things” Think of Henry Cavil who enjoys PCs or Michael B. Jordan who’s a fan of Dragon Ball Z and Naruto. But this idea that women actually truly actually like “nerds” is a fallacy. Literally not too long ago Anime and everything nerd Culture was damn near frowned apone. It literally wasn’t until the “Attractive” or “Cool kids” whatever you wanna call it group of individual were stating how they enjoyed it started the raise of its popularity. And this goes for anything really. When I women states they like this (insert) kind of guy they’re already assuming they tall dark and handsome. It is what it is the lying and gaslighting is just uncalled for. Real nighaz just call it as it is. And tbh I low key feel sympathy for these individuals tho sometimes they do it to themselves
Daquan you proved his point every time you roasted his looks lol. The women he’s referring to only care about the nerdy qualities but not the nerdy aesthetic. Yall are agreeing with each other, Daquan always gotta turn debates into roast sessions 😂😂
@@johnwill4560 I think we can agree yet again Dequan is wrong. The furry fandom is a very niche hobby that is far from the mainstream, but let’s say for instance drake, LeBron and Kai Cenat come out and say they are apart of the furry community, no matter what you think about furrys it will become more mainstream and socially acceptable because it’s endorsed by influential people that’s exactly flattop chicken dude point with anime bro..
@@MinnesotaDrillLyrics I'll be honest I watched flat Top's vid first and am just now watching daquan's I miss understood what perspective your comment was from , my bad
@@justsomeguy6336 he came in saying a whole bunch of nothing Like nothing but yap And insulting dude for basically no reason and repeating shit daquan was saying
@@codeonexz3813 Flattop’s point was that being nerdy isn’t what attracts women, being attractive is, and Daquan said that the reason why dude wasn’t getting chick was because he was ugly. Essentially, Daquan shot himself in the foot before the video even started
Bro you are so dishonest and you can't have a conversation. Yes men have to better and take care of themselves, but you can't for the life of you listen when someone is talking as you completely miss his point.
@@ReapZer027 The women that are claiming to want "nerds" really don't like nerds, and are just saying that to exploit the vulnerable men that fall under that category. The same way women say they like guys with dad bods.
@@TensuKawakab yeah but, that was not his main argument. It was they only like attractive nerds. If he made that his main point he wouldn’t get much push back, because some women are manipulative like that. Especially OF women.
@@ReapZer027 What was his main argument? How was I able to come to that conclusion watching his video, but you Daquan, and his chat couldn't? Edit: You said his main point was they only like attractive nerds, how does that disprove and hurt flattop's argument? It's still basically the same thing but you're just oversimplifying his stance.
@@ReapZer027women want fine, attractive men FIRST. Everything else is a bonus. They literally agreed the whole video. Daquans head was just up his ass so far that he couldnt just acknowledge or see it. He just wanted to roast and call him ugly.
And what makes it funnier is that this man is making it seem like the whole video flattop made was about just his video even though he specifically said he made that video to clear up the misunderstandings along with showing how disingenuous daquan video was😂😂😂. This man spent the entire stream trying to be a life coach feeling like this man was complaining when he was only stating facts that he not only proved but even agreed with without even realizing it and getting mad about it 🤣🤣🤣
Do not debate him bro because he will have you agreeing with his position and make you look dumb. you haven’t made any solid points it’s just ad hominem attacks and making up fake arguments to try an fit the narrative that you’re correct
@@prodsage2719we both read the same post and I didn’t have the same take away. The original post is just giving their assessment on how a actual debate would go down. Daquan hasn’t truly done much besides ad hominem attacks, and hasn’t actually dismantled or countered Flattop’s points. Flattop has created a video in which there really is no way to run or misinterpret what he is saying. Daquan simply will end having to bend the knee to Flattop once he realizes there will be no running or joking your way out of solid reasoning. At best Daquan will have to say he agrees with Flattop. In which will make Daquan look like a liar, because he did a stream a month or two ago saying things centered around looks not mattering. It’s pretty much a guaranteed loss for Daquan either way.
1.) Flat is a nerd who feels unattractive Daquan is a former streetguy who tries to act nerdy but you can kinda see its a disguise from his real personality 2)Daquan wasn't listening to the logic because he was too busy pausing,gaslighting, and making points that had nothing to do with the actual context of what Flat was saying 3.) Daquan's points are easy to dismantle 4.) Leaf ninja headband while wearing an akatsuki robe is pure hype beast vibes😂😂😂 5.) Watching Daquan is like watching someone who is trying to escape thug stereotypes by trying so hard to act like a nerd
Nah I'm sorry, Daquan pretty much mouthed bro's point about how fake "I like nerdy guys" is and is acting like they disagree when they damn near share the same point (just different mindset. L Daquan unfortunately
All I’m seeing is Daquan saying he just need to improve on himself to get the women he wants. If these women don’t want him, stop focusing on these women and focus on women I do want you.
@@codeonexz3813if the women he wants say they like the thing he is…why would he have to go drastic lengths to make her like him? So if he starts working out and got shredded then started attracting the “girls attracted to nerdy men” Then the nerdy thing isn’t what attracted them Seriously how r u this slow Ur just yapping, like wtf r u even talking about? It doesn’t even sound like ur talking about him, ur just talking about urself. Weird.
@@Eking-su3tryeah ultimately Daquan doesn’t want to admit that looks matter. He didn’t want to admit it on BasedPluto’s stream when Jaye pressed him. He didn’t want to admit it when he was being disrespectful and making fun of one of the guy’s looks on the debate panel, and said things that essentially implied he didn’t get women because of his appearance. But then Daquan would deny that looks mattered. Daquan has a very short attention span, he’s prone to insult people and doesn’t try/or he can’t understand/accept basic logic. Daquan contradicts himself multiple times and doesn’t even truly understand what the other side is saying. He either isn’t listening, which means he’s not actually having a debate in good faith, or he’s a moron.
@@codeonexz3813 I think the problem here is Daquan is assuming Flattop is upset that women don’t like nerdy men. Flattop point is that women who say these things are either A) bad at articulating what they actually like or B) just saying these things take advantage of a demographic that lack affection and attention to get money. Flattop absolutely agrees that to get women you need a certain aesthetic. In the black community that certain “aesthetic” is very obvious. Flattop is not mad at it, just calling it how he see it basically. And calling that statement “I love black nerdy men” cap
@@ZodiacTatoo but the thing is, he’s only talking about a fraction of these women. There’s far more women who consider themselves nerdy and likely men doesn’t fall for those categories. Yes, do some of these women say they like nerdy men just to get their subs up, sure. But to claim that all these women does it is completely false. But that’s how he sees it, but that’s not how statistics works. Flattop has his experience and is probably true to his own truth, but Daequan has his experience and it’s true to his own truth.
They’re arguing “being a nerd” vs “being nerdy” and Daquan is too dumb to see the valid point that was made and that at the end of the day, they’re both saying thing. I lost brain cells listening to this dude
@@JOHN18042 that’s a dumb point then. You have to be pretty dumb to not think you also have to be attractive to the person on top of whatever interest you have.
I have never seen a comment section so unanimously agree that the creator doesn't know shit about the video their responding to. I ain't seen on comment in support of this man. My god
no cap daquan been rocking with you for years but he cooked you cuz! You didnt listen to what he was saying and saying stuff he didnt say. Gotta take this L unc. sometimes you gotta just shut up and let it be bruh lol
@@IEMprod.Exactly I was waiting for them to trap themselves and say how being a nerd is being unattractive and comes with poor hygiene habits and cringe behavior
Daquan the problem ain't with getting women, it's about just being honest, what he's saying is that being a nerd doesn't garner you any level of interest from a girl which is inherently contradictory to a statement like "Nerdy ass black men be so fine". That was the point, I don't think he or anyone like himself who got bullied for being a nerd are mad that girls don't like them, the point is to just keep it real instead of preying on men who just want some love.
When someone says I like nerdy men it doesn’t mean that being nerdy is the only qualifying attribute same as if I say I love gym girls I not just going to get with some crusty dusty gym girl. If that’s his point then Yh no shit Sherlock 😂😂
@@user-cb9kp1tx8p Uh, dude, I said ZERO interest, as in there isn't even a hint of leeway, taking your gym girl example, If you said you like gym girls obviously someone your interested in is not just a gym girl, she's probably sweet and kind and whatever boxes you want her to fill. But if she wasn't the prettiest, she'd have a bit leeway BECAUSE she's a gym girl. Often times girls will lie as if they like nerdy guys as they are but that's not the case when you require them to look like Michael b jordan. So in other words they want a model instead of an actually nerdy guy. That's the difference and again, there isn't anything wrong with that just keep it a thousand with nerds.
Exactly. Women don’t like “nerdy” dudes. They’ll date an attractive man DESPITE him being nerdy. The nerdiness isn’t the attraction. I can see a woman saying “he’s got money, but he’s too nerdy.” Now switch it; I can’t see a woman saying “I like that he’s nerdy, but he’s got too much money.” A woman saying “I like nerdy men” is like me saying “I like women that are on Instagram all day.” Like no you, it’s just something you can put up with if you’re attracted to a person. To make it short, nerd qualities aren’t positives in dating. Which is fine, but let’s admit it.
Anime most def wasnt mainstream back in the day. I wouldnt say its Meg and Michael Bs doing thsat it is popular but I will say seeing anime stickers, tattoos, clothing, live action adaptations, etc. You gotta be in denial to not see its axtually way more accepted than it ever was back in the day.
I'm saying anime fans in the early 2000's and anime fans now are not the same people lol. I also find it funny how everyone is a anime fan but only watches mainstream shonenes and nothing else. Slice of life and romances are a thing too y'know. I believe some people just watching anime now because it's the thing. I see people watch anime and don't pay attention at all to dialogue and just wait for fights. Then I'm the bad guy for calling these people fake fans. Actual headache. Love you daquan but you don't look like a nerd at all you look like every other nigga that watched DBZ as a kid and now started to touch other anime only because of the hype.
I'll leave my thoughts here since this was recommneded to me. It seems like this all boils down to listening to talk and listening to understand. Flattop made an elaborate video so he couldnt get taken out of context so people can run away with a narrative. Daquan reacted to it just to roast him and (i guess) give him some advice on how to get bitches. Daquan somewhere in the middle of this got offended when flattop said something like "people like him" when all daquan does is profile him all the time. Flattop never said he was naruto running in the hallways (the only thing specific he said was getting called gay for liking dbz in highschool) but yet daquan put him in that category for seemingly no reason. I can end this off with the michael b jordan situation as i feel explains this perfectly. MBJ was bullied in high school and blk plp called him corny before and after he called the lady out on it. So i have to agree with flattop here when he says that things have to be "accepted" before people can rock with it. All in all the nerds that got shit on before nerd things got popular are real and yes people have to look a certain way (especially blk plp) before people starts fucking with them sadly. Daquan really seemed like he was trying to help "nerds" with his "advice" the whole video but it just came off as (just do this to get laid) even though that wasnt the original point. TL;DR they are both right but saying different things
but there's a difference between having nerd interest and being a nerd. A nerd definition is socially awkard, introverted, non main stream likes all of which seemed really popular among unattractive men.
Imma be honest. I watched the flatop guys vid in its entirety. Honestly i didnt really find much, if any, wrong with what he said. He was very specific and pretty spot on wit his points. Unless im missing something.
As someone who watched that video and even left a comment agreeing with flattop, I hope Daquan can see where he's coming from and doesn't misconstrue any of his points this time. Like Daquan is funny, but he has a habit of doing that a lot ngl. Edit: I finally finished the video, and Daquan missed the point he was making. Flattop's point was that when black women say they are attracted to nerdy guys they often make it seem like it's ONLY the nerdy quality that attracts them which can be misleading at first glace since in reality they only like that nerdy quality if they find that guy attractive. This can all be solved by one of two things happening. Either: 1) Black women can just specify that they like ATTRACTIVE nerdy guys and not just nerdy guys in general. Or 2) Black nerdy guys can just understand "that when he's attractive" is silent. It's literally that simple like it could all be this simple LMAO.
Stop using IG black women to represent us all. There are actual nerdy black women who always liked nerdy black men and still do who get overlooked because a lot of yall want the same type of IG women that the other black men want.
"we were warching Dragon Ball Z" When are yall gonna realize that DBZ is the MCU of anime? Just like MightyKeef said "Nigga Im DBZ. Ive transcended 'just anime'."
same like anime, to a degree it can be very unconventional; example; theres a clear difference between a casual gamer who plays cod and madden and a moderate/hardcore gamer that plays something seemingly underground like Persona, Elden Ring, fighting games, or something thats not mainstream/esports driven.
1:37:00 bro he made the video to clear up his points and defend himself after you roasted him for a 10 minute video you didn’t even pay attention too. How is that weird?
@@nottyreseno he keeps making it seem like it’s the fact that he likes anime that keeps him from getting women when in actuality it’s because he’s just lame and lacks confidence.
@@BlackGirlLovesAnime6flattops main point had absolutely nothing to do with whether he himself gets women, he's even hyper aware of the fact that u need to be attractive to get women. He's pointing out the fact that when women say the occasional "nerdy men are fine" they are being disingenuous since the phrase is inclusive of both attractive and ugly nerds, when the implication is always that they only mean attractive ones. And, like he said in the initial video, he ain't mad at that, he just want yall to be honest.
tl;dr if y’all not trynna spend 3 hrs of ur life watching this Daquan’s side: so what if girls don’t like the aesthetic of a nerd? if you are one of those people, you talking about it is not gonna make anything work out how you want it to. women love to say they don’t mind the looks until they see a dude that looks like Rocky Davis. Improve yourself. take care of your skin, watch your weight and and hair, learn how to socialize to others; look like you actually take care of yourself and look like you have the motivation to appeal to others. You can have the same qualities of a nerd and still be able to pull. Stop going for women that are “out of your league” and go for the ones that will actually spend time with you. Chickens side: women on social media have to stop saying they love nerdy black men, when most of them don’t even get love. they love the QUALITIES of a nerd, but they don’t love an aesthetic nerd; the typical nerd you see in movies and sorts. You can be a nerd, but you better make sure you don’t look like one. In order for people that are nerds to get women, they must have a “glow up” in order to get women. People piggyback on other people, like Michael B Jordan, in order to say “[they] love black nerdy man,” despite those same piggybacked people having a way different background then your typical aesthetic nerd.
I agree with both of yall but when it comes to topics with nuance trust that Daquan ain’t listening 💀 Regardless I think it’s just a black community issue where for some odd reason both black men and women have to conform to fit a set stereotype to be deemed acceptable in the world We are expected to act and look how we are “supposed to” and anything beyond that is weird and corny and uncool The only way to get away with being different in this community is to Hide yourself behind the stereotypes Or Make hella bank And it really is a shame because whenever anyone talks about the ugly experiences they have faced they get silenced and dogpiled because some mfs don’t like hearing about the issues with the community they are in ESPECIALLY when they are apart of the problem The only way you can be accepted is if you change yourself for everyone else. On the other hand… people in general don’t like ugly people and the ceiling for how attractive you have to be varies a lot depending on race from what I’ve seen at least If you are black you better look nothing less than perfect or you will be the butt of damn near every joke 😂 Regardless just do your best to look your best and live life Some of y’all care WAY to much about what others think about you
I fw daquan but I can’t for the life of me take him seriously in any debate or argument How is “You’re just ugly “ Ur counter To be nerdy u have to compensate that with something else. It’s literally pick a struggle But if they already like it, then it shouldn’t be a struggle, but we all know it is Which is entirely the point of the video. Nerd, nerd traits etc are not appealing but they can looked past as long as u have something to compensate it. They don’t want that shit💀 U can be nerdy but ur funny Nerdy but ur good looking U can’t just be nerdy A girl can like u for being funny, handsome, tall, in shape, rich Nerdy is not on that list, that’s just delusional. Perfect example is micheal b jordan. He grew up a nerd, like the nerdy type and girls didn’t like him back then Look at him now If u ask a chick why they like him they are not gonna say “oh he likes manga, i think that’s hot” The claim to be attracted to nerdy guys is cap lmao. Most of people who say that are pandering to a group they know are an easy target
The only thing ion like with daquan is he saying hes complaining about not getting girls and says he feels entitled to it because hes anerd which it doesn't come off like that at all
But it honestly does, he's saying at least to me that just cause he's a nerd, women who like needs or fine them hot should like him or needs without understanding other qualities play a role
@@de_gamercunning621I watched the vid prior to daquan watching it and he literally talked about daquan putting words in his mouth and when the vid started he did just that... Honestly if these two had a 1 on 1 without insults they could probably be friends
@@de_gamercunning621no bro he’s trying to explain to the nerdy black men, tht when women say they like nerds there not talking bout unattractive nerds, there talking about a handsome man who is a nerd. If u don’t understand this I’ll put it into simple terms. (1. Be attractive (2. Be a nerd Simple of breakdown what it means when women say they like nerds.
Let’s just be honest, attractive, female nerds will be attracted to attractive male nerds, because they say they like nerds doesn’t mean they like all nerds. If you were a nerd and you’re not up to their standards, then move on. Because you’re likely to type to have other people interested in you, but they, not that attractive for you to fuck with. So they should move on, and maybe improve on themselves like you should to get more and better options.
Daquan sounds like fresh & fit with these red pill responses even tho he says he hates red pill ideology look’s maxing is red pill terminology 2:18:12 we know damn well these women don’t like nerds 😂😂
This man really gonna act like nerd culture ( anime,comic,manga,cartoons) was always jumping. SMH. Legit got roasted for wearing a ss3 shirt in fifth grade. Of course they were my friends but that was first thing they’d go to. This man is disingenuous, he just doesn’t want to like dude.
There's a difference which When a woman mentions liking Nerds, she doesn't say attractive nerds. So Nerds wearing fish eyed goggles, ankle swigginers, and don't dress cool have swag is included in the umbrella of ALL nerds and geeks, attractive and non attractive. It's not that the women are capping per se but that they are not specific And you prove Flattop point each time.
24:01 right here u proved his point That was the point of the whole thing I swr I can’t 💀 27:53 even the chat is dumb asl, this crazy. That’s the point of the video. Literally. Am i missing something 💀
Damn, no wonder he ain't graspin the point, he spent more time pausing the video then actually watching it EDIT: after watching so far, Daquan pasuses the video in the middle of his damn points /: and then be talkin like he heard the whole thing
Remember when Jonathan Majors wore that Doffy drip in Ebony cover. I remember that (outside of anime circles) no one praised his drip, it was either, “He look sus.” (By the uncultured group) or “He is a fashion genius” (By fashionistas who wouldn’t know what a Jolly Roger is if it was standing right in front of them). Only us nerds praised the look and gave him his flowers. The general reaction was HELLA MIXED!!! Being attractive (while subjective) is very much a pivotal factor (not the only one but still very significant) in deciding if you would or wouldn’t pursue someone. That’s why dope boys and waste man get everyone from the popular girl to the goody two shoes girl’s attention and ultimately the 🐱. Their look draws them in regardless of how negative or toxic they are. I wonder if Daquan was always like this or when he was in middle school and high school was he more on the popular side. He strikes me as those dudes that would come to school and roast people for what they’re wearing. The “What are those???” Type dudes that clown others for doing “White Ish” like Malcom in “Dope”.
Daquan you took an L on this! You still missing the point. Plus he never said he cant get girls. He said the aspect of him being a “nerd” never got him girls.
I'm a fan but man daquan you got to learn how to listen I can't even get through this video cuz you keep pausing and just saying stuff and missing the point again I literally watched his video and then went to go watch a video to see your reaction and man you got to have the shortest attention span I've ever seen You're not even listening to understand you just listening to talk shit your misconstring what he's saying and just try to give him insults
Daquan you do this thing where you act unserious (Like you did during the six neon summit) when you dont actually know what you're talking about. Throughout the video you agreed with Flattop's points and continously switched your stance on Attractiveness vs. Personality while he made his stance clear (His stance is that women dont like nerdy men as they claim; they like men who like nerdy things) Your only comebacks when it comes to debating dudes on this topic is "You're unattractive" or "See me in real life" Love watching you big dawg but you gotta improve.
The man never said women deserves to be with him cause of nerdiness he said why lie about saying you like nerds when you only like attractive people who occasionally engage in nerdy activity. You bashed the man every chance you got when he ain’t do nothin wrong but speaking about an issue he had
Daquan is trying to argue the bigger picture of men having to make themselves more desirable to get women. When flattop chicken whole point of his video was the topic of women selling false dreams of being JUST a black nerd is desirable to them when that’s no where near real. Daquan arguments are proving his point true. And the only reason I think the RU-vid comments can see through it and the stream chat can’t is because live-streaming audience is full of people who just want to fuel arguments
