Dark Aspects of Paper Mario: The Complete Original Trilogy Analysis - Thane Gaming 

I've always wondered if the Cragnon thing can make you level down.

@@archagenteverlasting1239 that is a great question I never considered! I'll have to look into it--if I can't find an answer online I'll test it myself sometime next week (hold me to it lol)

How about the fact the Underwhere and Overwhere's rulers are implied to be divorced exes and their daughter has to sacrifice her life to become the heart. As in neither her mother or father, the literal rulers of death, will be able to go there or see her again (at least until the post game reversed it)

There is a difference between a slur and an insult. In this case, brown-noser/brown-nosing/etc is being used as an insult, which is its default use. *Kind of like calling someone a "Teacher's Pet" in school. Just adults don't normally bully the person over it.* It became a common saying outside of the military at one point, used a lot in offices and other workplaces, to express frustration over someone you perceive as sucking up to the boss too much. Another term would be "[person/company]'s Lap Dog". Not particularly hateful and not aimed at a race, orientation, or religion, or lifestyle; so not a slur. Just a swear (if that) about a person's actions when they try to be overbearingly annoying in their quest to please the bossman/woman/whoever is in power where you are at.

biased, but facts

doesn't Luigi also save the world or something during Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon's Paranormal Chaos?

Luigi is the Antichrist confirmed

Much like how MOTHER 3 took up two thirds of the Dark Aspects of MOTHER compilation 😅 I think you're right--we will probably never get a game like Super Paper Mario again

Same

Actually it takes up just *over* half the videos time, but it is pretty cool. Super paper Mario is a awesome game

I think Super Paper Mario has the most lore out of every single Mario game.

but he recovered his senses and become against dimentio, but later he became brainwashed again, that was his plan.

Great point, thanks for adding this. I totally could've talked about how he died! Love your profile pic, by the way 😄

"Fridge horror" I like that term

I don't know how the supermarkets get their mushrooms, but in the US this is actually a big problem! The death cap mushroom is invasive in the forests of California; in their native home in Asia everyone knows not to eat them, but here in the US they just happen to look nearly indistinguishable from a common species of edible mushroom.

@@GarryDumblowski Wild mushrooms don't get sold in US supermarkets; there's too much risk and liability. They're grown and farmed under controlled conditions by professionals. Half of all mushrooms sold in America are produced in one county in Pennsylvania, and they take food safety very seriously because it's the entire basis of their local economy.

@@cyanmanta Ahhh, that makes sense. Now that I think about it, I should have imagined that mushroom farmers wouldn't just put any random mushroom up for sale LMAO

I didn't know you could save them either, because it's easier/more effective to use the hammer in this case!

Agreed, if Mario doesn't save them they could probably find a way out of Hooktail's corpse 😅

Disagree, he chewed them up. It can be assumed Koops dad was swallowed whole.

If u jump on hooktail after he eats them they come out of his mouth alive lol

@@KAHCOHHreally??

Well the dad is also in a defensive shell

Its a fucking horrible game they lost their way

It’s my favorite of the “Paper Mario” games

Which is ironic considering most Mario characters have no necks.

Sticker Star really was disappointing to me because it marks the drop in creativity you're talking about--I really do love what the team was able to come up with for Color Splash and The Origami King despite limitations but I agree, I do wish Nintendo would grant Intelligent Systems the flexibility we see with these first three entries again.

@@ThaneGaming Sticker Star was actualy the game that introduced me to the series and even before I new of the original trilogy's exitence I still belive that the game sucks.

@@spouwnerring if you have the switch, give the first game a try. It's my 2nd favorite in the series behind the thousand year door. I honestly couldn't get into the third game due to the removal of the RPG style mechanics and haven't played any paper mario that followed. The thousand year door is definitely recommended but receiving a copy isn't cheap unless you have other ways of playing GameCube games *cough* emulate *cough*....

​@@spouwnerring Me who really likes Sticker Star : Fair enough

Well, when you’ve killed an apocalyptic doomsday goddess, you don’t need to get any stronger.

1 star point, actually.

I mean I knew that the game was dark, just by hearing bits and pieces about it. But I didn’t know it was THAT dark. Like wow.

You are welcome 😆 let me know know you thought if you did decide to watch it all the way through!

@@ThaneGaming So I ran through it all! Honestly I did like how you broke down your points, kept it creative throughout, and paced yourself pretty well! I don’t exactly have the best attention span but I never really found myself drifting off and switching to something else! Now the matter of me *remembering* any of it? Yeah I have terrible memory! Haha, so likely not, BUT I do happen to rewatch long videos frequently so-! But yeah! Thanks again! Super awesome getting to talk to you too!

Awesome 😄 I know the original just came out on Nintendo Switch Online, so between that and The Origami King I hope more people are thinking about these games (and choose to try them out for the first time if they haven't yet)!

I spent about two full days making small adjustments to the original episodes to compile for this longform video. Here is a list of changes: • I tweaked the narration for better flow by rearranging jokes, cutting out unnecessary segments, and removing misspoken words • Smoothed out video & audio transitions • Replaced the previous N64 gameplay footage by RedFalconGames with my own playthrough • Changed the music for the original game’s analysis • Included a text-only segment about Kolorado’s father at 12:20 I wanted to make this because of the positive response to my Dark Aspects of MOTHER compilation. Hopefully, more people can see my coverage of the original Paper Mario trilogy this way! If you want to watch some Dark Aspects episodes on the modern Paper Mario games, you can find them in this playlist: ru-vid.com/group/PLK37aGUr9BMWmBCq49u-_-KmuOIHKdzMk …Sticker Star episode on its way?

Hi

The original pixl was implied to be a version of Tippi before Timpani.

There is also a..possible pixl in the overthere. There's a chest like all the others that had pixls, but it does not open.

@@Jaydove2387 really? I don't remember seeing anything like that in my research but I could be wrong. Do you know where the 12th original's appearance is mentioned?

Thanks for checking it out! I'm a huge fan too, the original has been in the top 3 of my favorite games of all time list for years.

That makes me happier to hear than you know! I'm always stoked to see others trying these games out for the first time and loving them. MOTHER 3 has been in my top 3 favorite games of all time list since I first played the game and it's not moving 😁

Dude same! I never got a chance to play it when I was younger cause I wasn’t in the US then! Now I’ve been playing it (and suffering because MY DAD WONT STOP CALLING ME, AAAAA)

That’s awesome that hes showing how great the series is and actually influencing people to play that awesome series.

Tippy, Crank Dat Soulja Boy!

I'll have to remember to go in and change that manually--the game RU-vid matches it with is usually close but wrong 😆

@@ThaneGaming to be fair, if you're gonna talk about dark aspects of Paper Mario, Origami King is the prince of dark aspects What, we all know Super will always be the king.

Yes, this is expected in the environment to get things working through the good(nah) ol' algorithm. I don't see a problem with that honestly.

Woah, thank you for this! I really want to do a 100% replay of TTYD again...I am hoping for a re-release of some kind (along with any other GameCube games lol).

@@ThaneGaming here's hoping for a vc port or something. I doubt we see an actual remake though.

@@LuckyHamburger if we were to get a remake I think it'd be the original Paper Mario, but I doubt that would happen either. I'm sure GameCube could be a tier as part of a new Online Expansion Pack but I'd rather have standalone releases 😅

It's one of my favorite video game series as well, despite how divisive the newer games are amongst fans. I'm glad this video was a nice surprise, and that you read my comment about things I didn't get to in the video!

@@ThaneGaming All good dude, yeahh the newer games have been split fans heavily but all in all all most of the games (most cause uh... Sticker Star hahaha) in the series have something to offer and are enjoyable in their own sense haha (at least I feel like they aree, Colour Splash has great visuals, music and writing, and Origami King has that too with the bonus of some really hard hitting moments as well. Despite their limitations on stuff like character designs and stories that deviate from Nintendo's vision of a Mario game, the devs have done a really good job, I feel, trying to amp it up everywhere else). And yea, it was actually a really insightful video. I was really surprised to hear stuff like Shadow Queen inventing the Pit of 100 Trials for torture, and was also surprised to see so much information about SPM that I had never even known about, from the entire in depth back story about the Ancients and uh... how passionate they were hahaha (like I always thought that the Sammer Guys weren't related to each other, just some dudes hired by the King, but to hear all 100 of them are siblings and children of the King and his lover?? Bruh hahaha) to how the Ancients created the Pixls for work using the Dark Prognosticus (surprising how its implied the book existed before them, wonder how was it even created??), even small stuff like Mimi's lost identity and O'Chunk's tragic past! Made me wonder a bit about the game too. Maybe this is a bit too dark, but Bobbery's wife is named Scarlette and they died of an unknown illness, I wonder if they were named that cause of Scarlet Fever. Or with a passing comment/theory I saw of Dimentio specifically stating "The Power of Luigi" when lamenting how he lost in the finale, and how this power was formed through Luigi's negative emotions of being the shadow of Mario, something like that haha (Sorry for the ramble haha, I get carried away)

Right--as much as I do like Color Splash and The Origami King, I found that their turn-based systems were overall more of a detriment than not (especially with the standard enemies--the boss fights I did really enjoy though, moreso with TOK). Super had the opposite problem where standard enemies were more fun but the boss fights were too easy. If they tweaked SPM's formula a bit, they could really make an engaging gameplay system

They have a lot of story to work with, with SPM imo. World building as well. There’s so many strange details that allow for possibilities rather than objects in the game existing simply to exist. Sure, it may sound like a bit of a stretch for a game that isn’t a favorite for most, but it’s definitely there.

I also agree the first is better than TYD and Super. Both are great games, but there's a magic in the first that they never captured again.

God I'm not the only one 😂 Best timing ever

If you do watch it all, let me know what you think and if it was in parts or all at once!

Lol thank you again, that is wildly fast 😅 I will fix it later today

@@ThaneGaming no prob. i'm YT Capsions Critic from year or half... or 1/4 idk

Hurray! Let me know what you think if you do decide to watch it all.

@@ThaneGaming I really liked it the editing is pretty good and it said some very interesting stuff i never knew about good job like always :)

I've actually already covered both games! The Color Splash video was made a long time ago, but the information is still good. I recommend the Origami King analysis for sure though, I spent a long time on it! Here's the link, just scroll down in the playlist: ru-vid.com/group/PLK37aGUr9BMWmBCq49u-_-KmuOIHKdzMk

@@ThaneGaming Thanks!

Rereading comments today, just had to give it another heart! 😄 Thanks for the info, it's always cool to hear about how localization is handled in other languages

I liked Super for what it was, and I'm even a big fan of Color Splash & The Origami King. With that said though, I do prefer the battle/leveling up systems of the first two games and I really want to see that return (I'd certainly take a remaster of 64/TTYD too. Heck, even a port of TTYD at this point since its only ever been released on GameCube).

Super gets such a bad rap. It has an amazing story, it tried doing something different than turn based combat and came up with a genuinely great combat system that combined RPG and OG Mario mechanics. If SPM wasn't a part of the Paper Mario franchise, it would've been lauded as one of the best Mario games ever

@@greatbrandini3967 I respect your opinion but politely disagree by a considerable margin. I genuinely found Super to be a very mediocre game with bad and boring platforming + combat, very undercooked 2D/3D flipping mechanics, very ugly art direction including unmemorable partner characters, and overwrought writing. Not the worst game I've ever played, no, but I'd put it around Color Splash or Origami King in terms of quality. I admire how Super was willing to go out there and be something really different; I just personally didn't think it worked well, which was a bitter letdown coming directly after TTYD. I believe that Sticker Star and Color Splash releasing was the best thing to ever happen to SPM, honestly. Just my two cents of course as I know many out there do love Super, especially people whose first console was the Wii.

@@flyforce16 I'll agree on some of your points. I don't think it's the art so much as the character/enemy design that's off putting. My first console was an N64, and I even remember the trailer for the original Paper Mario (Bowser had Peach tied up over a paper shredder). I rented the original from Blockbuster countless times, and I bought TTYD and beat it at least 6 times. This was all before SPM, which I think I beat in about 2 weekend's of play. I was disappointed in how easy the final boss was and wished the fight had been harder, especially when compared to The Shadow Queen and Bonetail. At the end of the day, I recognized that the other Pixls just weren't really the main cast, and Tippi, Count Bleck, and the other villains were the true main cast. Bowser and the X-Nauts were extremely underwhelming and were nothing more than your typical video game villains who are completely unrelatable. After playing through SPM, I knew it was inferior to PM and TTYD and figured the games should go back to the old combat system and it would be fine. Well, we all saw how Sticker Star turned out, and I'd much rather replay SPM over any of the other newer entries, though I gotta say that Origami King was at least good enough for me to call it replayable, despite the horrendously boring combat system against normal enemies

@@greatbrandini3967 A great response. Thank you!

Thanks, I missed that so I just fixed it

Thanks for the correction! Past me got this wrong and I didn't catch it while rewatching 😅

That spear & shield one isn’t actually a real Pixl design--I made it in photoshop! I did this because only 11 of the 12 original Pixls can actually join Mario (they are implied to be the same ones from the legend), so the 12th is likely the one who died fighting the Pixl Queen, as Carson mentions. We aren’t given any hints as to what this lost Pixl looked like, but there is an unused ladder-like Pixl found in an early version of the title screen