Dark Phoenix vs. X-Men: The Last Stand - Marvel vs. Marvel: At the Movies 

Last stand had Hugh Jackman instant win

In The Last Stand, when Magneto rescues Mystique she tells him "The cure is a mutant, and without him they have nothing." The scientist explains to the Beast that they haven't finished replicating the DNA needed for the cure, and so the child will stay with them until it is complete. This film, to me at least, was a demonstration of how far Magneto would go to protect mutant kind. His entire identity is embedded in it and a cure is no different to genocide to him. So it is a war, which is why he treats the final battle like one. He cares about mutants, but those mutants are soldiers to him and therefore were willing to risk their lives for the same cause. That is also why he took on Jean,. Despite her just killed Xavier, he saw an opportunity to not only get a big gun on his side, but also to right the wrong with how Charles treated her. He seemed on point to me.

"This sucks!!! This sucks more than anything that has ever sucked before!" You said it like it is, Butthead.

Dark phoenix made The Last Stand look like a masterpiece.

I just find it funny that when jean kills Xavier old magneto is sad while young magneto wants to literally kill Jean for killing raven.

Skip both movies and watch the Fox animated adaptation instead.

The Last Stand is better because Dark Phoenix’s ending doesn’t line up in the timeline and no one has aged.

X-Men The last stand is by FAR the better film. it's not perfect, but I do like it and i do think it gets way too much hate sometimes.. I personally don't think Magneto was "simplified", It was the point of his 3 movie arc, the fact that he was becoming more and more of a hypocrite, and only realizing it in the end. also, the film has a theme of "too much power corrupts" not only for Jean but also for Magneto. I didn't mind Wolverine having a smaller arc. the last two movies focused on his story, and in the end of X2 he officially joined the X-Men. So in this film he learns to work alongside them and be part of the team. They even explore his relationship with jean a little further. For the last time... Professor X didn't actually die. He woke up in his twin brother's body. (And if you think that it was weird.. then you probably never read an X-Men comic..) It's as if he felt like something bad is going to happen, so he was preparing for the worst, that's way he was talking about it in the classroom scene with the kids, and why he chose Storm to lead the team, (much to her surprise..) it's not like he didn't care for Scott, he simply didn't have a choice. Scott wasn't in the right emotional state at that point. the last stand also has tons of characters i care for and actors who actually give a crap.. not to mention that the VFX which are still incredible! And the film came out in 2006! A lot of the characters have there own mini arcs which is grate.. unlike in DP which no one has enough screen time. As I said, not perfect. but still better then the dark phoenix. I enjoyed TDP for what it was but it was obviously disappointing.

I actually like the last stand. Dark Phoenix is a joke. They literally made professor x walk. Like that was the funniest thing I’ve ever seen within these movies

I loved the X-Men series of films. The Last Stand was disappointing, but to see the series end on a note like this is just heartbreaking.

I'll take _The Last Stand_ over _Dark Phoenix_ any day. That's all. The Last Stand had more stakes, everyone gave brilliant performances, and, well, you cared. Dark Phoenix: Ugh, it's just a forgettable, terrible, disgusting way to end the franchise, from my point of view. LAST STAND 6/10 DARK PHOENIX 3/10

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so glad you brought up Storm straight away, I rewatched LAST Stand a couple months back and first thing I noticed was how prominent she was

The problem with these movies is that it needs a 3 part set up all leading up to the conclusion of the saga.

Joker (2019) vs Logan (2017)

Magneto embracing Xavier's killer made perfect sense. He knew like we all knew he could not fight her. Why would he commit suicide for Charles? That wouldn't help anybody. On top of that rejecting and suppressing her power is what lead to her killing Charles. If he was going to survive and better yet use her power for his cause he had to embrace her and all her faults.

Best Halle Berry Storm performance is in Days of Future Past

We’ve had Marvel vs Marvel So now it’s time for... DC vs DC: Joker vs The Dark Knight Or we can have: X-Men: First Class vs Joker

the fact that cyclops was not a main player in the dark phoenix story line is mind boggling

The best action scene in the franchise is Nightcrawler's massacre, so i was excited to see what they do with his action, and I was severely disappointed.

In the Last Stand you at least cared for Cyclops when he was killed by Jean, but when Mystique was killed by Jean in DP, people were probably cheering because they didn't even process it as Mystique dying but as Jennifer Lawrence (who sucks in the movie and IRL). lol

Definitely I prefer The Last Stand than Dark Phoenix.

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One mistake: Marvel didn’t say no to Fox using Skrulls, who unlike Marvel, can use all aspects of Skrulls. Fox hastily cut out Skrulls after the release of Captain Marvel, leading to a more disjointed movie.

I liked "Dark Phoenix", despite its many issues. It was pretty hobbled by not being able to use the Hellfire Club and also being the only film to introduce aliens, so they couldn't really flesh them out that much or it would've been nothing but exposition. Despite that, they did manage to hit Jean getting possessed in space, Jean's mental battle with Xavier, Jean fighting the X-Men at her childhood home after her father casts her out, a climactic confrontation at a New York manor outside of Central Park, and Jean sacrificing herself to get the Phoenix off the earth and save her friends. I'm not saying all of these major plot points weren't handled sloppily! But they were all there, which kinda softened me toward it. The one thing I'm really gonna disagree with you on, though, was how you said that Xavier's arc went nowhere, and that's just not true. Xavier started as this overconfident a-hole that was growing throughout Apocalypse and I felt was brought on by him thinking he's indispensable to the future after seeing his future self in Days of Future Past. He was the one that led the X-Men on a commando-style mission to the Grey house, making her feel trapped and attacked, which both Cyclops and Mystique said was a bad idea. He was also the one who froze everyone because he was convinced that letting Raven get close enough to Jean would bring her back without ever admitting he was in the wrong; so Raven's death was largely his fault on multiple levels. It took losing the X-Men's public standing, having Beast abandon the team after decades at his side, and having Cyclops question his leadership and assemble the X-Men after Xavier tries to say that only he and Scott will go after Jean before he is able to admit that he was wrong. In the final moments of the train battle, Jean confronts him mentally and he is finally able to admit that he just buried her trauma, which, when unleashed without any barrier or filter because he'd never helped her deal with it healthily, kinda caused the Dark Phoenix events, which then ultimately leads to Jean's altruistic suicide. I thought it made a lot of sense that he retired, at least temporarily, to re-think things and it gave a nice bit of symmetry to Erik's gesture with the chess set at the end. Again - this wasn't a great movie, but I certainly thought it was better than The Last Stand. I'll always have a soft spot for these movies because as a child they introduced me to the X-Men (I watched the first film before I saw the animated series and then dove into the comics with gusto) and to comic books as a whole, but I am excited that Marvel finally got the property back. I hope that they give it time, like a solid eight years even, before they attempt The Dark Phoenix Saga again. I think that everyone's learned from these films that this story just cannot be earth-bound; it isn't as grand, as epic, or as weighty without the cosmic elements and Dark Phoenix's genocidal rage and the moral conflict the X-Men face in whether or not to defend her. One final note, too: I hated the bland, boring-ass costumes in this movie, but they were copied directly from the comics. The big yellow X across an otherwise dark uniform was what the X-Men wore during the entire 'New X-Men' run. I wish they'd taken the costumes from literally any other era of X-Men team uniforms throughout comic history, but that's what we got.

I would like to see Kelsey Grammar play tremendously great as The Beast because it brings the character of The Beast better than all the cast members playing their character. The Beast suppose to have his on movie, but they cancel it. I would love to see that movie because I'm a fan of The Beast.

Last Stand is a movie that put its priorities in all the wrong places but at least had an idea of what it was trying to do. Dark Phoenix has no idea what it’s trying to do, it’s the equivalent of a last minute essay with an inconceivable thesis and a poorly structured body. The Last Stand is Fantastic Four (2005), enjoyable but flawed Dark Phoenix is Fant4stic (2015), half-assed and a waste of time

Love the new intro! Especially when you ended it with a BANG!

Honestly, I was pleased that this was at least ABOUT THE PHOENIX. X3 had it as the B-plot to the cure storyline, and made Wolverine the only one who gets to do anything as usual, because god forbid anyone but him should get to be important, reducing the role of a cosmic being who can wipe out a whole solar system to "stands next to Erik the whole time and occasionally gives a mean look" for the majority of the film. This put Jean's struggle with the power inside her at the forefront where it belongs.

And the disappointing part that the villain in Dark Phoenix comics was Jason wyngrade aka Mastermind

Honestly, I think the Phoenix Saga should be a trilogy. With the real Phoenix Force, not just portraying it as some type of insanity in Jean's mind. They need to be true to the source material. The Phoenix Force is as much a Marvel character as Jean Grey. The character of Jean was never insane in the comics.

The biggest difference is at least last stand made a tiny profit, dark Phoenix lost money

Lol the director did say he wanted to expand on ideas from X3 in the dark Phoenix 😂😂💀💀

I’m going to answer some of your questions. Dark Phoenix was planned as a two-parter but the studio backed out in late pre-production. Chris Claremont writer of the original Dark Phoenix confirmed this back in August in an interview with Insider.com. I would also like to point out that Kinberg had only wrote a draft for X3 that was heavily rewritten by Zak Penn because the studio felt it was too dark and expensive. Chris Claremont also mentioned this in the interview. EDIT: Also Jean touched Mystique and you can see blood on her hand. Later on they show her wiping the bad on her shirt. EDIT: Jean was lashing out at people because she had PTSD. Look up hyperarousal. I did a video it as well.

X-men Animated series of the 90's did a better job than these movies. It's so sad that no one gets it right! I would have really liked to see a Phoenix and Dark Phoenix Saga come to life. I always found the Shi'ar interesting. It's sad that they aren't in the movie the same with the Hellfire club.

That Intro is waaay tooo long

Here's a good one, how abt last stand and dark phoenix vs the animated series dark phoenix saga. Animated series 100% the other two 0%.

Actually went and saw this .. - Couldn't believe it was the *same* movie (as X-3) ... just with a different end. I couldn't believe Fox let Kinberg make the *same* GD movie.

I lost it when he talked about the McAvoy walk😂

Do Hulk (2003) vs The Incredible Hulk (2008).

Thank you for introducing me to the song “I Can’t Dance”.

This is a weird one but i want to see spider-man into the spider verse vs the Incredibles to animated super hero movies that won best animated film of the year

X-Men: Days of Future Past = X-Men 2000 X-Men: Apocalypse = X2: X-Men United Dark Phoenix = X-Men: The Last Stand They just remade the original X-Trilogy.

"Grow those back" Dark Phoenix

Can we just make both of them lose? I think that would be best

Is it me but aftwr Hugh Jackman Wolverine was killed off in Logan that X-men franchise actuallt died.

Off course the last stand was better, he had Wolverine

In Last Stand, I thought Wolverine was going to use the cure on Jean, free her of mutant powers and the Phoenix Force, so Jean could return to being in control. But nope, just killed her. Whatever. As for Dark Phoenix, Magneto wants to kill Jean because she killed Mystique. Why? We never saw them develop a close relationship. Quite the opposite, in Days of Future Past, Magneto wanted to kill Mys to prevent the horrible future. So, he was ok with killing her without remorse but now, after years of not doing anything together, he acts like a close partner was killed. You can't even say he was mad that a fellow mutant was killed because in the last movie he teamed up with Apocalypse to destroy the world. Did no one on the writing team watch the previous movies?

I don't particularly remember both of their soundtracks (though in TLS's case I haven't seen it in a long time) but with regards to their 'Phoenix theme' John Powell(s)'s was the clear winner, and a beautiful recurring motif throughout the movie. Han Zimmer's was cool but generic for the most part. I also watched Dark Phoenix two days ago and remember nothing else about that OST.

Dark Phoenix feels lacking without Wolverine

Almost more people in the comments say that Last Stand is better but I like Dark Phoenix .. Am I the only one who love this movie ؟!

Famke Jannsen was so much better than Sophie Turner and I was so pumped when she had a cameo at the end of Days of Future Past, but no...

Still hoping for a Jurassic Park vs Jaws! Great video!

Dark Phoenix makes The Last Stand look better by comparison.

I'm all in for Last Stand. It is so much better, yet other people hate it???

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Age of Ultron vs Avengers ? Spider-Man far from home vs Spider-Man 1 if u had to do one of these 2 do recommend to do the first one though you don’t have to

Jokes aside, from what I’ve seen Dark Phoenix definitely isn’t the worst x men movie (we can thank origins for that) but it’s just not a satisfying way to end the franchise. That was Logan. And the first half was okay but the moment aliens came into the picture I was dead 🤣. So overall meh or bad.

Since you missed how Jean got blood on her shirt, she had blood on her hand and she must've touched her shirt, and that's why she was trying to wipe it off in the rain

I was thinking recently. I watch a lot of youtube and many fans asked why Professor X keeps accepting Magneto's Villain fluctuations. To be honest, a lot of fans ship Magneto and Professor X as. Gay Couple. to be honest I think fox was alluding to that. The answer love. Even to be honest if the Professor is only bi-curious or the love is platonic, I think "LOVE IS BLIND" is a big part of his over and over again accepting.

I feel like comparing last stand to dark Phoenix is like comparing a car with a couple flat tires and a broken windshield to a car that blew up.

Spoiler: X-Men Wins

i like the remake's better editing mean while the last stand is better film

spider man far from home vs spider man 2 or spider man vs spider man homecoming

Marvel Studios are going to remake Fantastic Four & X-Men and Fox will pay for it!

One thing that bugged me A LOT. One of the last lines Jean said ' It is just the beginning." Dark Pheonix is supposed to be the end of the franchise. Don't say it's the beginning! 😠

I think you should do Avengers: Endgame vs Star Wars : The Force Awakens

Say what you want, but the Scene At Jean Grey’s House In the TLS is absolutely the Best scene in the X-Men Fox Universe...the acting the score the visuals and the shock and awe of the death of Professor X were all TOP notch.

Okay, I just finished watching your video. I just want to say that you are kinda misreading what happened with Jean in Dark Phoenix. Xavier didn’t edit out the fact that her father was alive but that she caused the car accident that killed her mom. Jean lost consciousness after the car crash and didn’t see him again. As for Jean’s motivation. They explained that Jean was traumatized from the fact that she accidentally killed her mother. She was full of anger and pain, which Xavier had buried. He did this because the mind of psychic is fragile and it takes the slightest tap to send it in the wrong direction as they explain in the film. It’s an idea they explored in DOFP. But this time Jean is full of anger and that makes her impulsive. So when she is overwhelmed by the thoughts of others she impulsively tries to shut people up. She’s not really under the control of the force it was just a trauma trigger, she’s just mental ill.

They waste Mystique heel turn !! Phoenix gooey lava vs Galactus Cloud Farts ! I thought Chastain is D Bari alien race I really hate the slow motion fight in dark phoenix, just do it normal so much better

Unpopular opinion: beast in first clas technically has the best makeup. I honk people just don’t like the design. The hair actually looks like fur opposed to long body hair and the sling looked like blue skin and not a painted face. Also, mystique in dark Phoenix has better makeup technically than any j Lawrence mystique. It actually looks like blue skin. It looked so much like paint in apocalypse and days of future past. Her hair was bad in all though.

I really want to see and enjoy more superhero vs videoes.

I'm sorry, but what are the alien villains called?

Jessica Chastain's villain lady is called "Margaret."

I personally liked dark Phoenix

The Last Stand 9.9/10 - Dark Phoenix 1.9/10

They keep treating the Dark Phoenix movies as a one and done. They should have treated the story like Avengers Infinity War Saga. Phoenix Saga is a slow burn multiple movie storyline, not a one done. This is why the x-men movies fail so hard.

the x men 3 is much better

The problem is they take the comic version and distort it.in the comic when storm loses her powers she s the leader of the xmen and they explain that her powers are suppressed,she s still a mutant cos she still has the x gene,while she can t use her powers,her children may still become mutants.mystique in last stand is still a mutant,their powers are a by product of them being mutants so magneto s statement makes no sense.both films make no sense but dark phoenix is worse,she just becomes sansa stark with all the whining.i hope sophie turner s acting becomes less whiney.jennifer lawrence phoned in her perfomance and still acted her out the park.

Last stand was much better, had more meaning to it

How about avengers infinity war vs xmen last stand?

I really like both of these movies. And I'd rather watch either before Man of Steel. and IDGAF who cries about that.

Plz make a video on Dr strange Vs shazam

x-men the last stand 10/10 dark phoenix 4-/10

I’m currently doing a video essay/analysis series on Dark Phoenix and already have two videos on it. I suggest you check it out because A LOT of people are misreading the plot, tone, and theme of Dark Phoenix. Comparing The Last Stand and Dark Phoenix is like comparing apples and oranges.

I’m a zimmer fan boy. It’s really hard not to like his stuff. He’s one of the best and to me the best character in this movie

Last Stand is at least watchable. Sansa tried she just had D movie material and no plot to work with. Last Stand is by no means a good movie. It adapts two separate story lines and kills off everyone for no reason. It has a half way interesting storyline

I've always defended "Last Stand". It's not "great", but, if we'd gotten it before "X2" or even "X-Men", it would've fared better. In essence, it's the classic/cliched "misunderstood" movie. I also reappraised "Dark Phoenix". Keep in mind, though, that "reassessed" also, by no means, means "good". It has moments. It had potential. It had all the ingredients, but w/out a recipe. They dumped the ingredients in s pot, stirred, boiled/burned it & made it the main course. The final act is atrocious in how it let everything go to shite. All in all, I agree w/you. Had "Dark Phoenix" had a "slow burn" buildup (over movies, not just merely tossing a few hints in one) that Feige's MCU was famous for it could've been SO much more. A shame really, but there we are. "Last Stand", by a little bit, is a far more enjoyable film over all. It's enjoyable, action movie shallow, but has solid bits of character development. It's a shame Kinberg flubbed the story twice, but, hey, other filmmakers have stinkers in their closet. The lesson for the studios behind the movies is more glaring - if you can't do a proper build-up to a character, DON'T try to make a legendary story arc work in one film. It cannot be done.

Can you do Hulk Vs the Incredible Hulk please?

I watched X-Men Dark Phoenix and I was highly disappointed... So glad Marvel now owns the rights of X-Men, Fantastic Four & Deadpool. Fox fucking sucks making superhero films 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

I loved the 2000s X-man.

I shit my trousers at the moment makavoy walkers the stairs to the Michael Jackson music

The MCU should really focus on Angel as much as Wolverine if they ever bring the X-Men in the MCU.

Dark Phoenix and Origins are NOT canon. Skip them and you have a kinda cohesive narrative. And you get Logan as the ending, PERFECT!

I prefer Dark Phoenix than Last Stand, but honestly, I don't even like the actual comic storyline. It was outright boring the entire time I read it. It could have something to do with the dated dialogue, assuming the readers don't know anything at all about what's going on, but it might just be the story in general. Personally, I would have rather had no group or individual manipulating Jean into being evil. It would have been much cooler if the Phoenix Force itself was the source of here being evil and having Jean need to confront her evil by herself, rather than having a device do it. Although it would still be better to just not adapt the terrible story in the first place.

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Can you do Aquaman vs Thor ?

I love your content but damn your intro is so longggg