Thank you so much for your excellent attention to deal and wonderfully crafted prose! You do a great job at contextualizing the history and background of the world and its iterations, I appreciate all the research and effort you go through to make a video of such substance; and I can clearly see how passionate you are about everything you discuss! My preface would be to see Bloodborne and Sekiro before Elden Ring, particularly because without the Elden Ring DLC we might not be getting a full picture of the power and level of influence of all the entities in Elden Ring (but that's only my opinion, and I would be happy to see any video ultimately!)
I kinda like the thought that the Dancer could be Ciaran the Lord's Blade of the Knights of Gwyn, the weapons remind me of the Gold/Silver tracer enchanted by the Pontiff. And we don't know what happens to Ciaran after seeing her at Artorias's grave in DS1
The dancer is actually heavily implied to be a distant relative of the old royal family(her armor helmet mentioning that it's only made for distant relatives of Gwyn's family) and one of Gwynevere's maidens(you can use her soul to get Bountiful sunlight which is stated to have been given by Gwynevere to her maidens) and I don't think that anything indicates that Ciaran was Gwynevere's relative or maiden,so I'm not too sure about that,but it does sound possible.
Sounds extremely unlikely she would become as loyal to Sulyvahn as dancer was. She already struck me as having been under Gwyn more for Artorias than Gwyn, not really the most loyal of knights, and it's especially unlikely for warriors to have all that much loyalty to new leaders after having served another for a long time.
@jacobnorris8256 the Dancer herself, albeit of an identity, is a prisoner to the pontiff, not an ally. All of the outriders are exiled prisoners of Irithyl
@@jacobnorris8256 as Metuogalendus said,the Dancer eas forced to serve Pontiff,and his two rings were used to shift his knights into beasts,the very reason why they were exile knights,his right eye aplears to transform the weaver into those canine-like creatures that ambushes you on Irythill's entrance,and the left appears to transform them into boreal knights
@@justsomeone883 Except it Pontiff really did have her serve entirely through force (I guess the eye he places on them can't be removed?), that just makes it even less believable. Why would Ciaran ever let herself be put in a situation like that? 1. Obviously nobody in her family would be able to force her to go to the Pontiff. Why would she ever entertain the idea of serving him to begin with? 2. Even if she was somehow convinced to at least *visit* him, she wouldn't let herself be subjugated. 3. He'd actually have to be strong enough to not only beat her, but prevent her from escaping and then taker her down without killing her. 4. I'm under the impression that Pontiff controls people through fear, but I don't buy her being afraid of him even after losing. She's an ancient, wizened and high status warrior who lost her reason to live ages ago, that's not really someone you can do that with.
There is a theory that Sulyvan actually was the Scholar who convinced Lothric into rejecting the linking of the Flame. There is a statue in lothric with a Scholar who has the Profaned Greatsword leaning on its shoulder. Who else is a Scholarly figure with the profaned Greatsword?
Shouldn’t the Soul of Cinder automatically scale above pretty much all the Lords of Cinder who already linked the first flame as by default it would have all of their powers, abilities, strength, skills, knowledge etc amalgamated into one along with every other being that successfully linked the first flame Lore wise I find it a little hard to believe that the beings you have to beat in order to get to the Soul of Cinder is stronger than the final test. And while the final boss doesn’t necessarily have to be the strongest boss lore wise, in this specific case due to what the Soul of Cinder represents, I think it does scale above everyone that has linked the flame in the past and those that are said to be able to currently
The amalgamation of FRAGMENTS of previous lords don’t equal the whole. Also the flame gets weaker as time goes on not stronger. There is no more now (and probably much less) than at the very start. No lore reason for him to be stronger than previous versions. Also you have the majority of the power going into the fight because you have the souls of the other lords. The soul of cinder is just not on par with you and probably could/should be weaker than the others lore wise.
@@NotSoSerious69420 Fragments? No, Soul of Cinder is the incarnation, or reincarnation depending on the interpretation of the term "keinshin" of its name, of the lords and their full powers. The flame did become weaker over time but there is solid proof Soul of Cinder did not get any weaker from it. To start, Soul of Cinder is a culmination of gods and lords, and there is some japanese evidence that may suggest the lords themselves created it, not the flame. Secondly, incarnation after death in souls-like and souls games since ds3 was always considered returning to one's original state of prime, think about it: Isshin returns prime after death in Sekiro and Radahn returns prime in Elden Ring. Soul of Cinder also uses moves and techniques that the lords, had they weakened like you said and intend, would never be able to use. For istance, Gwyn's spear attacks wouldn't be used if Soul of Cinder couldn't use his power, same for the spells of the undeads and their other movesets.
Love the video but i have 1 gripe, later in the, soul of cinder got a lower ranking than i was expecting, and the reasoning is that there are statements that those above him in ranking are capable of linking the fire, thus they should beat SOC cause he is the guardian of the flame, so if they are stated to be able to link it they can beat him, which is a fair interpretation. My opinion is that it refers to them being powerful enough to serve as good kindling for the flame, and not necessarily them being able to surely defeat SOC. But yeah, that's what I think, at least.
Do you have any plans of doing this for Elden Ring? That poses a lot of significant challenges for this video format. Do you do all bosses? Do you only do rememberance bosses? Do you cherry pick a list of the more significant ones? Godskins do not have rememberamces but they are very significant lore-wise, same as Loretta and Lansseax, but it would also be redumdant to have all instances of godskins, or the lesser bosses who are just normal enemies like the golem or the beastmen. Also lore-wise I feel it is very challenging as well. There are so many ultra OP characters lore-wise in ER that, how do you chooses what is more OP? Like Plassidusax was the primal "elden lord", and then you have Hoarah Loux the first true elden lord, who do you rank higher? How do you compare the Omen brothers? If Malenia is a literal goddess, would that put her on the same level as the elden beast? If Rykard is the lord of blasphemy, devourer of gods, would that place him on top? Again, how does one decide what is the most op in a sea of gods, demigods, and god-slayers?
Sulyvan should not be higher then nameless king imo. His greatest strength is his cunningness but i wouldn’t say hes the 2nd strongest in ds3. Even if he his he got parried by my dinner plate so yea.
Huh, you would think ludex was the weakest due to it being a mindless abyss beast that attacks based off instinct I don’t think it could defeat greatwood
Still so weird to have ranked wolnir that low. You said yourself it was a ranking on lore, said his lore made him extremelly powerful, and then ranked the fight? What?
The strongest entity in dark souls is the bearer of the curse from the dark souls 2 true ending/good ending He literally is just an undead who can't hollow.
Gael as #1 is very fitting. People keep saying SoC should be stronger because he’s the amalgamation of every champion, but Gael is everything at the end. Minus you and that one random ring knight in the corner of the map. He’s also the only boss at the end of time. No he doesn’t lead you to him because he’s weak, it’s because he knew he would go mad and knew you would be the only one good enough to put him down because you would try again and again until you won
I don't know. I shudder to think about an alternate version where he pulls out the powers of a Bearer of the Curse completionist from DS2 and not Gwyn. (That's a joke but think about it, Vendrick was insanely powerful along with his soul to the point he had to hide it from Nashandra so she does not get its power. If you include the DLCs and the many, many insane trials that the bearer of the cursed goes through, then it's shocking how insanely overpowered the Bearer is and is probably the most powerful protagonist in all the Soul's games.)
I fail to see why placing SoC higher conflicts with Gael being number 1? I mean yeah, I do agree Gael is the strongest being DS3 (arguably second strongest if you count the Ashen One), but, yeah. Placing SoC at top like 20 wouldn't really interfere with Gael's top 1
@@nicolasleal5644 The Bearer of the Curse is the only character able to directly affect the Past Events, using the Ashen Mist Heart, they could even go back in time to the age of ancients, specifically at the end of that age and can create souls out of nothing and out of nowhere the Ashen Mist Heart even created an Ancient Dragon Soul The Bearer of the Curse literally affected the Past before they were even born, meaning that they ALWAYS existed that alone makes the bearer of the curse the most powerful, also them breaking the curse for theirselves and became immune to the fate of the cursed
There's a missed lore bit that states Aldritch can manifest miracles and powers just by dreaming about them, one of his transpositions was Priscilla's Life Hunt ability. Aldritch never met Priscilla, he dreamt about her or her power. This makes Aldritch power potentially infinite.
Brother that's how faith spells work in lore. Every simgle character uses spells lile the sunlight spear by remembering a miracle from the gods and based on how much faith they have in that recollection, the stronger their spell is. Think of it like a literal prayer. Aldritch is basically doing a skewed version of the same thing, he dreams about priscilla and gets her life hunt scythe from the recollection.
@@User-es3emfrom where is he “recollecting” something he has never seen? That’s the point of the comment. He doesn’t even gotta know you EXIST to use them.
@NotSoSerious69420 It's literally stated he dreamt about priscilla and in canon aldritch was a Saint for the religion that worships the gods and its miracles so WHY wouldn't he know? Ignoring the fact he was devouring and using gwyndolin as a puppet. He could easily get the miracles from like a billion different sources that make sense in lore.
Minor correction about Aldrich. The Gwyndolin we see is not a manifestation. It is the actual body of Gwyndolin that Aldrich controls while still consuming them. We know this because we can actually hear Gwyndolin crying out during the boss battle.
@@Gigimave The lore is ambiguous whether Gwyndolin is male, female, or non-binary in terms of gender. Gwyndolin was born male, used a ring which made their sex female for most of their life, and different item descriptions differ whether the character thought of themselves as male, female, or other. Hence my usage of them, which is the grammatically correct term to use when someone's gender is unknown (and has been for literal centuries).
For the gravetender I think it definitely deserves that spot maybe even lower than the greatwood since that hollow that we fight isn't even the champion that once participated in the arena, that hollow is simply just someone that takes care of the champion's grave and I'm assuming that he's partnered up with the wolves because the wolves themselves recognize that this man is only here to tend to their former master's grave
Pontiff Sulyvahn is such an amazing villain, and was the most memorable part of Dark Souls III for me Despite knowing nothing about him at the time, beating him felt like what defeating a being as powerful and tyrannical as him should His presentation displayed power. His theme commanded presence. His difficulty brought upon fear. His defeat granted us rule over the world’s fate.
For me, the most interesting part of the Ashes of Ariandel DLC is the frost spell that reveals Sullyvhan was born in the painted world. It gives context to some of his motivations;if he grew up with the ideology that when the world starts to die, burn it down to make room for what comes after.
I also love the translations of his theme It’s equal part directed at Sulyvahn, the Gods, and the Ashen One Tearing into Sulyvahn and his true nature, and how his actions are potentially bringing upon the end of times as we know it. Mocking Gwyn and the Gods for being so blinded by power they shackled the world to a never ending cycle of suffering to try and keep hold of it, just to experience downfall and being forgotten anyways. Questioning the Ashen One as to why they’d want to sacrifice themselves for a far overdue era. Ultimately, Sulyvahn, Gwyn and the other Gods, as well as the countless chosen undead before us, all brought to ruin by something as simple as a dying flame in the dark, and the fear of facing a world they have no control over, unaware, uncaring, unaffected by anything we can do.
@@SaintConstantine0101yeah I imagine the top is some mixture of Presence, Kos, german, Maria and Laurence. But I think an underrated boss might be Rom and wet nurse
I feel like the Soul of Cinder was put way too low on the list tbh. SoC is essentially an amalgamation of all the previous individuals who have linked the fire, meaning it would also be an amalgamation of strength, skills and abilities. So it has everything all other previous Chosen Undead had and then some in terms of repertoire, that's what? an innumerable of years if not eons of combat experience fighting against the first Lords, the remnants of Ancient Dragons and a collective knowledge of every age that has ever had a need to link the fire. It also means that every Lord of Cinder's skills are in the SoC too, including Yhorm, Aldrich, the Abyss Watchers and the original Chosen Undead. Imo that makes it easily top 2 or 3.
"SoC is essentially an amalgamation of all the previous individuals who have linked the fire, meaning it would also be an amalgamation of strength, skills and abilities." Incorrect. At least about that second part. Think about it: if the First Flame needs to be rekindled by powerful warriors and its power is constantly diminishing, then it would make sense that SoC's power, which is directly created/manifested by the First Flame, should also be extremely diminished to the same extent. Which therefore means that the SoC isn't nearly as powerful as you're making it out to be. It's probably not even as powerful as Gwyn is in DS1, lore-wise, if we considering the respective rekindling cutscenes from each game.
@@BiggusThiccusGwyn was also shit back out by the first flame it doesn't link ALL of you, most of gwyns base power was probably in the hollowed version we fought Let alone the first flame still is superior to ANYTHING we've seen in dark souls And guess what the SoC uses as a weapon? The first mf flame He's also the only boss you need to do a whole ritual for absorbing the powers of all the other lords of Cinders u slew throughout your journey to contend with him This SOC downplay is fucking absurd and Gael at 1 is such nonsense Yk the reason he guides u to him is cuz he knows he's to weak? And he was right He's prolly not even strongest dlc boss that title goes to Friede It doesn't take all your strength just a unknown portion of it and likely a different percent of each linker but it does take all your skills and intelligence
@@BiggusThiccusand using the link cutscenes to decide who's stronger is bullshit and yk it, first we have to consider the powers of each individual protagonist then the power of the first flame, in ds1 the CU is FARRRR weaker than the Ashen One and gets instantly devoured but that was by a near prime flame (when in comparison to later titles that is) however Ashen One can't get devoured instantly the first flame has to like nibble away at him/her but guess what this flame is far weaker than it was in DS1
@@jarrett3556 Gael at 1 makes sense because, while it's true he's probably kind of weak in the beginning, he absorbed the dark souls of the furtive pygmies, the brings closest to Manus. All the other lord souls lost power over time, while the Dark Soul doesn't. (It's the literal namesake of the franchise lol) The reasoning behind his placing the Lords above SoC remains solid to me. The Lords can link the fire and linking the fire requires beating the SoC, makes perfect sense. I think you're putting way too much emphasis on the ritual right before. It's basically a rite of passage, kind of like what you do with the Lord souls in DS1. And final note: Friede is an ashen one like the player. Which means she failed to link the fire. She's not that impressive. She even gank fights you and loses lol
I think I disagree with the logic that being able to link the flame means you’re automatically able to beat Soul of Cinder. I think that the champions spoken of as capable of linking the fire are just that; their sacrifice would actually link the flame. Soul “power” isn’t a 1:1 correlation to pure combat ability, and even when we can beat SoC our power barely lights anything. If the quotes about them were “capable of defeating the Soul of Cinder *and* linking the first flame” that would go a long way to tying them together.
@@codewizard0Where is it not supported? Artorias couldn't beat Manus; there are theories that say Friede was defeated by the SoC; Anri PROBABLY couldn't have defeated Aldritch and there are other examples to support the fact that you must be somewhat relative to your enemy in order to defeat him.
@@mariano8910ludleth of Courland is a Lord of cinder but has 0 actual combat feats and is a small pigmy. Though it's my theory he transposed a lot of souls into himself to be able to link in the flame.
Imagine being Pontiff Sullivahn, a being at the height of their power, wielding the majority of the major forces of the world and even catalysts for threats that could end the Age of Fire like the Profaned Flame and Aldritch himself. Nothing really stands in your way anymore, but suddenly a lone Ashen One arrives in Lothric, killing your most successful Outrider Knights, decimating your forces, defeating you and the god-devouring weapon you had on your leash, as well as pretty much everything else in sight. The humiliation must be immense
I’ve never had a channel so eloquently describe what I love about Gael’s narrative, and what he says about humanity so much as you just did, fantastic work
Yhorme and Gael are my favorite Dark Souls characters in the series. Both are true servants of their chosen cause. Despite his might, Yhorme was a humble protector. And despite the limitations of his human form, Gael resisted hollowing possibly his the beginning of the age of fire in order to hunt down the Dark Soul so that humanity could escape the cycle in a painted would that would never succumb to rot.
Hmmm given the Ancient Wyvern's size, power, stone-like appearance and location, I think it's safe to assume it's one of the original wyverns or the progenitor of the wyvern species. Without the plunge attack gimmick it's a really tough fight and it really does look a lot like an ancient dragon...
Wasn’t Kalameet an everlasting dragon? And we meet the ancient dragon in ash lake in DS1, but we never engage it in combat. Midir isn’t one of the original stone dragons, but he and Kalameet are both close enough that they can be counted.
Kalameet is a direct descendant of the everlasting dragons, so he has the lineage and therefore the power of the everlasting dragons...but he missed the bus on actually being an everlasting dragon himself. He's the next best thing though.
@@Scowleasy Yeah they’re both in the same camp. There’s also Sinh who might not be a direct descendant, but he’s probably pretty close to being one. And Gaping Dragon is a confirmed distant descendant
Perhaps a list ranking the lore strength of each protagonist? (Hero of Boletaria, Chosen Undead, Bearer of the Curse, Ashen One, the Good Hunter, Sekiro, and the Tarnished)
I love your story telling abilities; keep up the good work! I was trying to guess the top 10 as you went through and got stumped on the last one which I am embarrassed to say is my favorite boss to fight, like how do I forget??? (Sister Friede) A small bit of constructive criticism, timestamps for each entry would be dope. With the cross-referencing the different bosses I got confused (probably cause I was listening in the background while playing skyrim lol) and slightly mixed up which bosses were already covered (dang Pontiff for being involved so heavily xD) . I went back to look and resolved my ADHD inefficiencies but a timestamp would speed up that process. Again, great video!
I really feel like Soul of Cinder isn't a challenge for those who link the fire, but another Lord of Cinder awoken by the bell. It just so happens that it represents previous Lords of Cinder. All that to say, I feel like he got snubbed BIG time and I would've put him #3-4. Bonus points for being the Chosen Undead from the first game + Gwyn.
Important thing to note though, if you’re there to link the Flame due to it fading, it makes sense that whatever LoC said Flame could summon would *also* be fading and much weaker than if it was ”fresh“. I’ve always looked at the SoC as the final bright flash of a dying ember when we encounter it.
I have a problem with the twin princes being placed so far above the demon prince. Even with Lothrics magic, the Lorian we face should be far weaker than the one that barely beat the Demon prince. Meanwhile the Demon prince pretty much fully resurects during our fight with him. I'd put the demon prince we face above the twin princes personally, with both of them just behind the Soul of Cinder. Also, Pontiff is vastly overrated. He exploited that the world was weakening around him and siezed his chance, he didn't cause the fall of the other dynasties. Gwyndolin was dicesed and weakened to the point that he stepped down as the leder of the darkblades long before Pontiff captured him. For all we know he could've been completely bedridden at that point. Pontiff over Midir & NK is insane and completley baseless. There's not even a good argument to put him above any lord of cinder.
Soul of cinder should be way higher then 9. It’s likely that no other lord of cinder had to defeat soul of cinder to link the flame. To me SoC is the first flames last hope at stopping the ashen one from putting the fire out and the SoC is the combination of EVERY single lord of cinder ever. Including gwyn, yhorm, Aldrich, the abyss watchers, and any previous protagonist. It can be argued that SoC is stronger than Gael simply by how many lords of cinder make up the soul of cinder
I like to believe that the Dragonslayer Armor was once the armaments of the Nameless King before his more refined swordspear was developed and before his betrayal. as it is said in his items’ descriptions, the Nameless King was a dragon slayer that only had respect for arms. the Dragonslayer’s Greataxe is definitely a weapon worth respect
@@A_Black_Sheep94 Both of you are incorrect, according to the description of Sacred Oath; “Miracle of those chosen by the Sunlight covenant. Temporarily boosts attack and damage absorption for self and those in vicinity. This is the tale of the Sun's firstborn, his faithful first knight, and the brave dragonslayer who served them both.” The Sun’s firstborn is Nameless king, his faithful first knight is Ornstein, and the brave dragonslayer who served them both was the original owner of the Dragonslayer Armour who is left unnamed. Also don’t regurgitate the point of ‘the brave dragonslayer is havel’ because Vaati got it wrong.
@@rigorm136 Which Dragonslayer out of all the Dragonslayers are they talking about Brianmiac? As if Lorewisd there's a single one, not to mention serving under Ornstein would have resulted in similar looking armor
@@A_Black_Sheep94 it’s more of the fact that the sunlight altar, a.k.a the place where you obtain Sacred Oath after turning in 10 sunlight medals, is literally right outside Dragonslayer Armour’s arena. Also the point you bring up of serving under ornstein would inspire similar looking armor directly correlates to why Dragonslayer Armour looks like ornstein.
@@rigorm136 Which is why everyone thinks it's fucking Ornstein. Not to mention its not like it's the first time Ornstein would have been reused in the series.
This list is really bad, the first flame even in its weakened form is far above the actual lords of cinder. Them lengthening it isn't actually a way to say even the weaker ones compare to it, it just means they're adding extra time to something that can affect the world on a scale they never could. Even Gwyn shouldn't compare, and the Soul of Cinder is the personification of that unstoppable force, SoC should be 1. Also, Gael doesn't actually have everything, he has pieces.
Not to mention these lords have to sacrifice pieces of their soul and body to even temporarily affect it. It's not like they're just using their everyday power, they're sacrificing themselves in a way they can't normally do outside of linking the flame.
One thing I noticed: The Demon Prince looks a good bit like the bat-wing demons that take you to Anor Londo in the original game, and a couple times again in dark souls 3 after you defeat Vordt. I don't know, but maybe there's a reason for the resemblance?
Personally while I agree in terms of influence Sullivan is perhaps the greatest and most powerful figure in the entirety of the main game, head to head I don't believe he is the most powerful entity in the main game. Sullivan relied on trickery, politics and an expansive network of powerful underlings to attain the zenith of his power, not his own strength. The Pontiff is certainly an incredibly powerful entity, with a stacked arsenal but limited battle feats. (A) He is the most powerful member of the Dark Moon Nights, and as such is a master of Dark Moon sorceries. (B) An incredibly skilled swordsman. (C) Can wield the power of the profaned flame, which was at one point able to nuke the profaned capital. (D) Can wield sorceries of the deep. (E) Was able to command the loyalty of Aldrich, an incredibly powerful lord of cinder. Though it is unknown wether it was simply Sullivan's might or his silver tongue and propaganda that won him Aldrich's loyalty; because let's face it Aldrich has been manipulated before, he's not exactly the smartest. (F) He might be part tree. I couldn't find anywhere that said he explicitly overpowered Aldrich or Gwyndolin. From my understanding Sullivan and Aldrich made some sort of mutual agreement, while Gwyndolin was taken when he was sick or poisoned, and far from his best. Don't get me wrong usurping the Dark Sun is quite the feat but Sullivan didn't accomplish this via combat. He either did it by poisoning Gwydolin or god lucky because Gwydolin was just dyeing for some reason, maybe sickness. Poisoning a powerful got with deep sorceries or some other underhanded tactic is very different from besting him in one on one combat. Also why would the Pontiff, if he was so powerful, not take some action against the Twin Princess? Probably because they hold a similar animosity towards the age of fire. But there are still powerful forces in Lothric which want to link the flame so why not simply eliminate the potential threat? My guess is because he views the Twin Princess as an enemy too dangerous to risk antagonising, one he isn't confident he could defeat... at least without the help of Aldbitch. It is for these reasons I cannot in good conscience put Pontiff Sullivan above the Nameless King, Twin Princess, or Midir. Remember, Midir IS an everlasting dragon + abyss powers which puts him above you average Everlasting Dragon. At least for me. Gael number 1 tho no question.
Amazing amazing amazing video man! I went into it expecting just a nice lil list of ranking bosses but ur story telling capabilities and ur voice’s ability to really captivate me left me with a sense of understanding and appreciating the true underlying beauty of each boss’s lore and character and what they represent to the story at large, especially Gael and how he symbolizes the entire story of the trilogy!!! Genuinely an amazing video and I can't wait till the Bloodborne video comes out!!!! Keep up the amazing work🔥
Just a quick nit pick, this is an ideal video to exploit the chapter feature in the time bar. Just saying this is a video clearly made for that function. I’d use it def
I don't feel the Soul of Cinder's placement right. I feel 'he' (we talking about an amalgamination of multiple males and females) is the strongest character in ds3 and all of the Dark Souls trilogy. He is there to safeguard and tend to the flame in the absence of the last Lord of Cinder and awaits the new fuel to the flame. He wouldn't engage the Lothric twins as he is the current chosen undead fulfilling what the Soul of Cinder wishes. He only intervenes us, because we already gave up once and failed on our quest, we are seen as a faliure, not worthy to become the new fuel, the new Lord of Cinder. But the reason is why he is the most powerful is that he is able to perform any known combat technique to its highest degree, and also his entire being is based on Gwyn, and the additions of so many who linked the fire brought him back to almost full power. The Soul of Cinder is an even closer image to the full power Gwyn than the firstborn in my humble opinion. There is no greater challange than lord Gwyn himself in full power. I think when the fire is linked, most of the chosen undeads soul energy is being used as fuel, but some of it is stolen by the Soul of Cinder(Gwyn), who lives within the fire forever, to rebuild himself in a new form, now equipped with all the skills and knowledge of all the chosen undeads that linked the flame. So the argument that every being claimed to be worthy to link the fire does not mean they can win a battle against the Soul of Cinder, but means they wouldn't be stopped by the Soul of Cinder. We, the Ashen Ones are a mistake in the system, heralded only as the last resort, so the fire's will (Gwyn) double-checks our worthyness. The stronger the fuel is, the better the next cycle will be, and such the choosen is the best fuel, any other needs to be double-checked. I believe Gwyn is fully immortal until any other ending than the linking of the fire occurs, so we won't be destroying Soul of Cinder even if we are victorious.
Now this is my kinda video Total W. Hopefully slave knight Gael ranks around the highest as hes my fave and he just gives out the feeling that he’s the strongest thing you’ve ever faced
I’m pretty happy Pontiff Sulyvahn got a lot of love here. I could go all day about the theories and speculations about him but it cannot be overstated how he was the most important character in Souls series outside of Gwyn.
I don't think Midir is one of the original everlasting dragons, given that his soul explicitly states that he is a descendant of the Archdragons and that Old Moonlight states that while it is rooted in an older memory than that of Seath, it is from AFTER the Beginning.
I would kill to see a free for all skirmish between the following bosses Ornstein and Smough,Artorias,Sir Alonne,Ivory King,Fume Knight,Velstadt,King Vendrick,Lothric and Lorian,Gael,Nameless King,Gwyn and The Soul Of Cinder If I should add more give me some names...
Gael is absolutely the most powerful boss, maybe the most powerful boss in lore fromsoft has made. We, as the Champion of Ash, simply time travel eons into the future. Whereas Gael had to fight and survive for eons, until he fights us.
Very nice list. I agree with it except for Top 10 which should be. 1. Slave Knight Gael 2. Nameless King (Stronger than Yhorm and Sulyvahn because he has Gwyn's Sunlight lightning) 3. Soul of Cinder (The First Flame is weaker at the end of DS3 but the Soul of Cinder still has the powers of all the Lords of Cinder from times long gone) 4. Yhorm the Giant (Is almost invincible since his only weakness is the Storm Ruler) 5. Pontiff Sulyvahn 6. Darkeater Midir (Archdragons are extremely powerful immortal gods with only a lightning weakness. Midir has additional abyss abilities) 7. Twin Princes, Lorian and Lothric 8. Abyss Watchers (Comparable to Artorias, and were equipped to combat the Abyss) 9. Aldrich, Devourer of gods 10. Champion Gundyr
Meby as a 1v1 combatant he is slightly too high...but in terms of "political power" that MF had his tentacles everywhere and basicly ruled the world, enslaving litteral demigods, and being main reason why EVERYTHING is so fucked in DS3
Are you also going to do Demon’s Souls later down the line? I think it would make sense to do the other three games first (Demon’s Souls, Bloodborne, and Sekiro) as Elden Ring still has the Shadow of the Erdtree expansion coming.
I'd be very curious to see your take on the most powerful souls or influences on the Dark Souls trilogy, bosses or otherwise, at the supposed height of their power. The machinations of Kaathe compared to Nashandra, the learnings of Seath compared to Aldia, Prime Gywn vs Gael, Prime Vendrick, or Prime Ivory King, Chosen Undead vs Ashen One, that sort've thing.
I just have to praise how good your videos are. I have watched a lot of souls content over the years, but you make it feel new and fresh all over again. Keep up the good work! Can't wait for the Bloodborne list!
The only problem I have with the list is soul of cinders placement he should break top 3 sense he is the amalgamation of all that have linked the first flame
Pontiff’s power is more in his authority, while powerful as an individual, he isn’t as physically strong as many other beings. In pure power, he’s likely weaker than Aldrich and Dancer albeit with a bunch of powerful items. Ancient Wyvern is probably one of the first Wyverns. We usually beat it easily due to stabbing its brain out, but it’s quite a formidable foe. SoC has the power of being able to counter nearly everything that comes its way. The top 3 could go for any of three mentioned above. Either the one closest to the gods, the one closest to the Ancient Dragons emboldened by the Abyss, or the coalescence of the Dark Soul in the body of who slaughtered and consumed every human. All have countless years of fighting experience. It’s also possible that Gael could best Nameless, Nameless could slay Midir, and Midir could subdue Gael like some weird game of rock, paper, scissors.
Great viseo, but I would, personally, still put the Nameless King above Sullyvan, as he retainend his original power that we can speculate beeing the closest thing in this world to prime Gwyn. We can affirm that because the Nameless King was succesfull in protecting at least some dragonkins, wich would means that Gwyn preferred not to attack him and destroy him.
Personally would love to see Demon Souls, Bloodborne, and Sekiro done before you take on an undertaking as massive of a project as ranking Elden Ring bosses on power. Love your content but make sure to pace yourself and do what's best for you, I'll watch regardless of what you do next
I got curious when the talks about the philosophy of dialetics started, so decided to do a bit of research online. My head is now spinning and I feel like throwing up
Im not sure what even to write. This was really inspiring and i really love Dark Souls, played everyone one so many times over. The lore is fascinating but i think i truly from watching your video, understand the entirety of the concept of the game, maybe not every scrap, but the image is so much fuller now. Really appreciate you man, good luck out there with great content like this. God bless
I love your videos, as a feedback I feel you could shorten some parts of the lore or make a resume so doesn't feel a little stretched but love the videos
One small thing that isn't 100% correct is something said during the Darkeater Midir section. As in fact we do meet a real everlasting dragon in the first Dark Souls. The Everlasting Dragon at the Lake of Ash is a true everlasting dragon, being literally impervious to all kinds of damage. It is true that Midir is the closest thing we get to fighting an everlasting dragon but he isn't the closest thing we meet to one. Just something to remember!
So sick bro, only like 4 videos in and your channel has almost 11 k subscribers. Would be great if you timestamped each boss in the video, considering its length :)
Do bloodborne and sekiro first bro. Elden ring may end up needing a redux with the dlc coming up, so save all the work until it can be definitive. Love your content, keep up the good work. 👍🏿
Letting you know that a Bloodborne variant of this video, I would love and certainly watch until completion. I’m Subscribing for that, and anything else you make with anywhere near as much quality and passion I’d want to see. If the Elden Ring video(s) are going to be broken into parts then perhaps you could experiment with other fromsoft titles, or other games/stories with videos you think *you* could make.
Man i love your vids. I really need the elden ring video because i think it would be most interesting but some bloodborn content would be nice too. honestly if you keep the quality up i would watch whatever.
Absolutely amazing video. Your dedication is incredible and you deserve to have so much more recognition. I feel like videos on demons souls, bloodborne, and sekiro would all be very cool to see and maybe if elden ring dlc comes out by the time you do those three you could include all of the dlc bosses in a huge elden ring video.
