Thanks for your words! Yeah, the information exists out there somewhere on the Internet but it's difficult to find something without knowing where to start.
Nice video! It shows how you can maximize the effectiveness of your build very well. For me personally this is rather interesting in theory. I always found that tryhard players, Havel moms etc. completely destroy the creative way of having PvP, due to their playstyle of backstabfishing and nothing else. While this may be super effective and useful in certain situations (ganks, etc.) it takes away the fun in fooling around with (bad) weapons or trying some useless builds. The way of playing like PeevePeeverson who tried to get creative with different weapons, mechanics and spells is the one I prefer. It’s not about winning but having the most fun. The more havelmoms there are the less people will try out new things and develop their own playstyle. Once again thank you for your video, this is just my personal opinion! Liebe Grüße aus Bayern
Danke dir! Ich verstehe dich voll und ganz, finde es aber schon immer reizvoll das Optimum aus meinen Builds herauszuholen. Wenn ich dann zB um den Great Club herum plane, halte ich mir trotzdem noch Optionen offen die nicht optimal sind (falls ich mal Lust auf weniger seriösen PvP habe und das häuft sich in letzter Zeit). Bei der Rüstung hab ich sowieso immer mehrere Sets pro Build, würde aber den Rahmen sprengen wenn ich hier alles gezeigt hätte :) mir gefallen aber auch Havel Moms und Knight Moms einfach, da geht es vielen sicher anders.
Every time I watch one of your videos, it makes me want to jump back into Dks1 pvp, even though I was never really good at it. 😂 Great video! Deserves way more likes!
Thanks for making this, I've been trying to get into pvp and been super hesitant to level past a certain point just because I wasn't sure where most people were stopping.
Always nice to hear when these videos help someone getting into the PvP! Yeah the level match making can be confusing at first, higher than meta is dead for the most part
It's good to cancel & escape chain backstabs if there is latency or lag involved but sometimes I missed a backstab against low/no poise opponents since they get a backstab immunity window if you stun them - on the other hand it is very annoying for them to deal with it since they always get stunned :) I rarely use it tbh
@@MrMashroom Appreciate the info. Do you think thorns worth using with ninja flip or is it the same thing? Also if I'm using the chaos blade, should I still have a pocket dagger/bandit dagger or is it not worth swapping for BS's? Finally is 36 poise the sweet spot?
@@Gidrah I think 36 poise is like the sweet spot yeah. It lets you poise through every hit of faster weapons + 1h great swords and curved greatswords, which is honestly all you need with basic toggling skills. I think fast roll and flip is kinda the same in regards of Thorn armor. Just for the toggling I would always have a off-hand dagger around, damage is also a bit higher than with Chaos Blade on crits, yeah. But if you're used to right-hand toggles like me, a weapon in the second slot like daggers or the rapier is kinda necessary
Haha yeah not many left. It's basically the only game I still play (still way less than like a year ago) and I like making these videos, good practice for editing (even tho I just use basic editing stuff)
@@marksanchez3977 glad you like it :) and no, ds2 is different in many aspects, I would advice you to watch some videos on it specifically if you want to get into it
What would be your take on a Meta-Build? Flip Cb or Mid-Kumo? I refered to the Soullevel with the "Meta", not the try hard dueling scene with the most effective builds. Maybe that's where you have a different take on the term
@@PacificPastry I see yeah that would be something different of course. It's really more like a video about my builds with some basics for newer players & I think the "metaest of Meta-builds" are rather boring to play, but that's just me probably
Yeah I mean you like what you like, personally I think that a build guide aimed at new players should focus on or at least mention meta options so that people know what is good and why.
@@PacificPastry I think the meta builds are covered in other videos already, and while my builds differ they are still pretty optimized, using commonly seen weapons
Thanks man! If you want to stay at 120 with this build I recommend to lower the strength to 16, which is all you need for the main weapon (Moonlight Greatsword) while going up to 50 with intelligence to get stronger spells. I would also recommend to go up to level 130 or even 133 since that is the more common level and connects to 120 anyway, in this case you could invest into more attunement (more spells) and more vitality/HP. You could also decrease the dexterity to 10 if you don't need the off-hand Katana (hand axe or long sword can still be used this way and they're also good finishers)
Nice video man! I want to ask though since i can't find too much info about this, but are magic spells (int) viable in meta duels or would you just get backstabbed while trying to cast them? If so what are the best spells to use and is it required to get 45 dex to make them viable?
I never made a dedicated int build but yes they can be viable, og's like spades use them at meta level and are perfectly fine. Spells like pursuers, homing soul mass or dark bead can work but it's also risky, if they are used careless you will be backstabbed
i personally perfer dueling, I have question. if someone is hosting a duel kind of thing with just a build of their chosing like tarkus or a elite knight build. would you backstab fish them?
@@TheMagnificentMoose-s7y of course, if I can take them at least a bit serious. If he is a total starter however I would just practice perfect blocks or some stupid things before leaving or killing him
@@MrMashroom i my self kind of suck at backstab fishing because i dont like it and i get absolutely shit on by hornet ring users, i just think it can be kind of unfair when im having a joke broken straight sword fight with someone and another guy instantly kills me with a greatclub hornet backstab
DSR PvP is either you learned 'tricks' in order to protect yourself from backstab and backstab others or you just don't play like that and crush everyone with magic well guess what l went for.
At a certain level magic is inferior to backstabs, there's only a handful of good magic users and those not just use magic but also try to get a opportunity to get a backstab in (magic helps there since the opponent must do something about the magic like dodging which can lead to a backstab opportunity again). It's been months if not years since I lost to someone using magic only (be it dark bead, pursuers or a anything like that) pyro is another story tho, every variation of combustion can be cancer in the hands of a good player or with some lag/latency (but in that case magic becomes way more viable as well). Just some words about my experiences here, random players will get killed by magic without breaking a sweat
Danke! Such mal nach "Dark Souls Barrel Roll", da wirst du einige Videos finden, manche mit den genauen Inputs für den Controller! Zudem gibt es auch die Reverse Roll, etwas anders aber in manchen Situationen ebenfalls nützlich.
@@simoxx4302 keines so richtig leider, um 50 herum in anor londo oder 10 in den Beginner-Areas ist immer ein bisschen was los wenn du einfach ein paar Noobs bekämpfen willst, sonst musst du Glück haben, zb auf Meta um 130 herum sieht man immer mal wieder gute Spieler, such mal nach Psycbn, der streamt gerade
@@MrMashroom für mich kommt definitiv Meta in Frage und Psycbn hab ich zufälligerweise vor ner Stunde etwas vor dir entdeckt 😂. Danke nochmals mein Abo hast
@@simoxx4302 ich kenn ihn über das Spiel und so ziemlich alle die grade im Chat sind, sind alles großartige Spieler und deutlich öfter online als ich es sein kann
What are your thoughts on regular dagger vs bandit knife? I only ever see you using the dagger in your clips, is the extra weight you save with the dagger worth more than the extra crit damage from the bandit knife or is there another reason?
@@MrMashroom Thanks for the reply! I'm just starting to get into ds1 pvp and your videos have been a great help for figuring out a good first build. I messed up the stat optimization by picking the thief class to start, but I'm making a quality build as my first so that I can try out as many weapons as I want
I'm not using any cheat engines, since I play on playstation I don't think it's even possible :) and as far as I know texture mods are fine, but you might want to ask a PC Player for that
@@nawaf-2023 oh I see. Well the game is pretty dead right now because of the elden ring dlc, you need to try in the right areas at the right Soullevel as well. Around Sl50 in anor londo, Sl15 in undead burg or Sl130 in Oolacile township should work best
If you are good at backstab fishing then any build and no build works....BS is king in this game unfortunately...there is not much in the way of customizing builds or being creative throw on havels armor...get a club or w/e and just cook
This is true to a point, yet being good a backstabs is still a skill and a damn fun meta game, too! And since backstabs work with every setup you can put on whatever you like and still have success, just like in other games.
@@MrMashroom Don't get me wrong, although sometimes its frustrating to constantly run into BS fishers, the skill level is very high and sometimes I'm baffled at just how good peeps are xD...great vid dude, high quality!
@@ironsentinel5847 no worries, I know where you're coming from and totally understand - especially when the connection comes into play it can be very frustrating to play the backstab game. Thanks for the comments!
@@vamsikrishnakrishnaraj-cu9vp I'd recommend using the murakumo or claymore with some poise and health - the more, the better. Pyromancy is also very beginnerfriendly, try to go to 45 dex here. If you struggle with bigger weapons, use smaller/faster ones like the balder side sword. Katanas and curved swords are also good choices, but annoying so don't expect to make friends if you use them. If you want to get a feeling for backstabs, try rapier & daggers, they are not that risky if you miss. Try kicking to prevent yourself from backstabs and to confirm your own backstabs on others. I have a whole guide on backstabs on my channel
No variety , shitty network and bad pvp community No wonder the pvp died out quick I wish someone could come around and fix the game for good Dark souls 1 had potential to have a solid pvp community but backstabs is all people do and quite frankly i hate the pvp cuz of it I used to run the Havel mother and all of these builds but got tired of the same playstyle If someone gets offended by this comment then that means I’m right
"If someone gets offended blabla..." that's not how it works pal 😂 you can have your opinion, but you have to deal with other opinions as well. Do you like PvP in other souls(like) games more?
@@MrMashroom Opinions are irrelevant when someone is just a child that can’t take others opinions That’s why I normally say that Soft mfs out there can’t deal with facts or others opinions I did like the pvp the other souls had but… You see there was always a bittersweet feeling about ds1 pvp Like bro it’s been more than ten years and the same 20 people still playing and using the same build Like you see what I’m trying to say ? Because it was one of the first ones out there it didn’t had the time and effort in the multiplayer aspect others had You can’t play as a heavy tank or as a pure strength with needing to backstab people to win or defend yourself from them That’s all the game demands It’s just sad that this game is dead just like that and everytime I come across videos like these it’s just upsetting I’m not denying the skill cuz hands down the people that knows how to play around the delays and the shitty net code it has But again same gameplay and same 5 or 7 builds that does the same thing Inferno plus did a remasters version of the pvp and that was hella cool and one person did that in 5o 6 months but developers couldn’t do it being a multimillionaire company You get what I’m saying pal?
@@leonardocarrion1996 I see where you're coming from, I just don't get why you wanna act tough over topics like video games lol. Ds1 PvP might be limited, but it's still a great experience if you invest the time to get it down. I know it wasn't the intention of the developers, but there are so many things to consider against actually good opponents. There is a reason why some people still get into the PvP of this game, not many tbh. It's not very accessible and you have to accept the fact that backstabs > everything else, then you're on a good way, most are just too lazy or don't have the will to learn to play around that, which is fine with the amount of more polished games around.
@@MrMashroom having the game since 2012 and you think I wouldn’t have learned everything the had to offer? Bsing was all the game had to offer of course I had to learn the techniques how to do them and how to scape them Back in the day the “pro” I used to learn from was spades Like I said it’s been more than 10 years and people don’t bother playing other way cuz it’s only one build viable Backstabbing 🤷🏻♂️ It’s kind of like people know what killed the game but even still they keep on killing it By only playing like that You know the game it’s pretty dead when you have to invade I low level to encounter people even like that it would be 10 or with luck 20 and out of those 20 18 would look for your back only Obviously like I said I would never deny the skill a lot of these techniques requires I’ve been there they are not easy to pull of if you don’t practice a lot But hey not acting tough it’s just frustrating cuz this is a game that means a lot to me and obviously knowing the remaster died after a month of release It’s just that frustrating I would love to fix the pvp myself but know nothing about coding I’ve been thinking about collecting signs but I think people are comfortable playing the same way with the same build the played with 10 years ago
@@leonardocarrion1996 ok so spades still plays and hasn't ever complained about the backstab mechanic (at least in the like 5 years I occasionally read something from him or met him while gravelording or invading), that's all I can tell you here
