"Darkest Dungeon is too hard" 

100% moment of valor

Me when entire team is a deaths door “HITMANNOOKS RESOLVE IS TESTED”

More like... 10% Pain 20% Pain 15% Concentrated Power of Pain 5% Pleasure 50% Pain An 100% Reason to Remember the PAIN

And a 10000% fun

You forgot about 10% ancestors voice lines

...I feel heavily fucking targeted right now...I did this with my best team. They tore down almost half the bosses, Vvulf, the first level of the Darkest Dungeon, and nearly killed the final form of the Prophet, but died. And I mourned them hard enough I got a Commission comic of them, and still feel sad to this day lmao, it's been almost 2 years

@@EndermTheSwordsman ik how you feel 1 or 2 years ago i was playing with an sort of unique team that i had no hope, but as the team went further i was really surprised that they managed to beat brigand pounder boss, so after that i downloaded skins mod for them Then on the champion hag boss fight my leper died there and i got sad, so i went on the steam workshop trying to find an nice class mod to replace him. So skipping a little bit i made all of them lv 6 and was my favorite (and still) team so far So i went to my first darkest dungeon with them Well you know what they say... : _Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer_ 3 of them died, only my musketeer made out alive. Needless to say i cried as fuck and also ordered a comission comic from a friend of that.

This game would absolutely break me. My boyfriend plays it. I'm too scared to. I get emotionally attached to my Mii characters in my Miitopia parties. This game 100% would shatter me.

@@lupinsredjacket3191 yeah definitely would But its a fun and stressing experience

Yep

@Khaeldranis and a copious amount of questionable substances.

Yeah that is how rng works, sometimes you get destroyed, sometimes you destroy everything That is why they do a lot of runs and they reset after the first weeks if they werent lucky enough to get low stress and strong heroes

@@stylesheetra9411 that is for people who look for perfect runs, normal people dont need to do that and still can win the game

@@wilsonarenas7583 Well, I would discuss whether waiting for luck proves someone to be a pro ;-) But I do play with a set of self-imposed challenges to make it "fairly difficult" (like complete all objectives during the run; no DLCs cause they allow for exploits: no use of meta knowledge, rebuild the whole village)... I have played thousands of hours and never made it... But I keep playing; this is how you forge the steel... Git Gud ☠

This remind me to some video that killed ancestor with only Dismas and Reynauld, totally madlad for survivng 23 minutes and Reynauld's Virtue that changed the tide Edit: and my friend who overbuffing his Shieldbreaker to oneshot crit the last form

First few missions "These provisions cost a lot of money, I will just not push my team and collect as much as I can" *Gets 3 out of 4 killed in a battle* "Provisions are dirt cheap compared to the need of healing the party in the Hamlet" What suprises me is that someone plays for 20 hours and still does not understand he or she should take less risks. But to be fair, it also took me a few hours till I noticed modifiers STACK 10 points of Blight damage per turn is quite devestating

@@MrDwarfpitcher I feel this. I thought that mixing bleed and blight was the best you could do, until I discovered that lol.

Th reason people complain about RNG is when you plan ahead, and still get punished. Speaking from too much experience of having my glass cannon equipped with Martyr's Seal. Either it's bugged, or my luck has been horrible, but every single character who wore it failed to resist one single Death's door attack. Still an amazing game. It's much more fun to pull through after a challenge than a cake-walk, but there are without doubt some bullshit RNG in it that can never be accounted for.

@@enskje You ever get such a good string of rng that it makes you mad? Like, the enemy misses 3 guaranteed kill 95% shots and you get crit after crit, dominating a fight you should have lost, and you're just sitting there like "bullshit". A major problem with rng is that it often favors the computer due to risk-reward measurements. The computer can lose every match but one and win, whereas the player losing even once can gimp you severely. Rng punishes players disproportionately and rewards the computer disproportionately, thus it is my opinion that whether a game has good or bad "rng" is largely dependent on how this inequality is accounted for.

@@flinfake I have been playing for a while after abandoned it like for a year and I don't really feel like the computers is taking advantage over me really. I remember that first time and I see that I was really a bad player or at least more bad than now I am. I don't think I came to the point and I'm so depured of errors than I can say the game itself it's pushing it against me tho but I just feel like a have to sort out a few things more and I'm ready for beating the game at my own pace. Not rng problems. I'm playing darkest mode.

Your Chinese pronunciation is terrible! It's pronounced "git gud."

@@ComicGladiator you missed the joke boi..

@@bencecsorgo6635 shaddup Sun Tzu is russian

@@R3TR0J4N Technoblade :) Not russian

They were being tested and they gained the affliction debuff

r/fuckwilbur

Like if You read ir with the ancestor's voice

i killed the swine boss only to get party wiped by wilbur .

SlimeyTheSlime fun fact, if you kill swine god and run away from battle, you can still complete the quest even though Wilbur isn’t dead

Nicholas Maier that's pretty cool I didn't know that. All I know is there's an achievement for killing Wilbur first in any of the fights. I also learned at the same time there's an achievement for party wiping on a boss.......

Alex Lagunas it's only a matter of time friend, theoretically if you carried on playing with the same tactic, it is guaranteed to fuck up as long as there is a none 0% chance of it happening. It's not a foolproof tactic, if you get really unlucky and get like triple critted on your PD and HWM they die and you suck a fat one for trying to cheese the game... and then you can simply use your 5 spares you have stored away just in case 🙃

Schwarzenegger law:If it bleeds we can kill it.

Thats the darkest dungeon motto

@Malachy Jackson but what about war? I know that that is not an everyday matter to most people, but to those who do go through it, wether it be metaphorical, literal, or any other sense of the word, what can go wrong, goes wrong, and isnt the entire point of “planning ahead” to prepare for the worst case scenario? Murphy’s law isnt meant to be taken literally, its meant to be taken with a grain of salt and a reminder that things can go wrong, otherwise yes, we would all eventually die crossing the street

@@shahshakuras700 But Skeletons can't bleed. How do we kill them?

Yeah...like x-com.

Unless the enemy resolves to crit you for 4 rounds straight

Dallas Woodward yea like stacking 18 bleed damage every turn on a 3 turn boss

+Imba Qing You can always try again. Only the hardest difficulty has a time/death limit, and you always get new recruits.

Daniel Mikhalchuk true but when game shits on you with pure rng fuckery, even the best preparation is useless

Yofadhli Ahmed Kahirawan cograts now you can obliterate enemies even better.

Stack... AND STACK A FUCKIN LOT. It's the only way to be somewhat safe in this game.

now i have a reason to use doctor and jester.

they stack to infinity but the duration of the buffs don't stack. So most of the time you can get it stacked 3 or 4 times... I am always stacking my MAA with 4 times prot... I am literally laughing when i see some bosses attackes are tickling my Tanky Man At Arms fucker...

Çağdaş i guess its cool and all, but i really hate when the team order got messed up because of the boss. So most of the time during boss my tank would be on the very back and itll take a while for him to move up to the front. Plus all of my heroes are equiped with skills for the spot they are on, so when the team order is messed up no one can use any skill unless they move to the right spot... 😥

Well my Crusader died with the Martyr's Seal one hit after reaching Death's Door. Guess the game really play tricks with you. But I can relate, had my Highwayman survive even more than 6 hits against two enemies at once and kill them both. Being well prepared is the best way to play it.

Preach! Careful preparation and evaluation of risks - that's all. The thing is most gamers are absolutely awful at both of these, hence why so many people complain about this game.

FTL really becomes easier when you find out that you can almost double the rewards by boarding or killing the crew instead of obliterating the ships and carefully planning your shop trips in the ENTIRE SECTOR at the start.

MrDrProfessor4 my problem with it is just the amound of grinding you have to do in it, the final stages are the biggest example of enfuriating bullshit, especially if you play it blindly.

Marcelo Lima I mean, you never really tend to hit Death's Door if you're well prepared. Probably shouldn't have been using Martyr's seal, that trinket probably caused you to go to DD simply because it was taking up a slot you could have had a better trinket in.

I can confirm that strong burnout part, I love the game but I only want to play it a few dungeons at a day without long sessions

Very well expressed sir. Agreed

You're a good man, thank you

* "A POWERFULL STRIKE!" *

0/10 youtube algorithm relies too much on rng

its too hard to press the subscribtions box.

I think 125,288 view classify as "way more".

Needs to be 2 million or more

if you want a challenge go in the darkest dungeon with occultist and take junia and barristan heads. It's awesome when he gets 63 crit heal.Btw 4 fingers and you get afflicted xd

That’s the third GW fan I’ve seen who *doesnt get the joke*

heretik

You can't heal with occultist without a secondary healer, he isn't consistent enough to get people out of death's door. You should use Wyrd Reconstruction on half hp, not on death's door.

Doesn't really miss the mark even a little. Invest time and skill to acquire high level items/abilities, then crush the "RNG". It's hardly comparable to dark souls since skill > everything, but this video was just made to troll crybabies who wont invest time and skill into the game. You can't simply pick it up and immediately be good, but like literally everything else in the world, you will eventually beat it with persistence.

Yeah, new players dont have cool trinkets, but the game is literally about failure and making the most out of being shit on... You have to retreat, lose your heroes or just win, either because you manage well the little stuff you got or because you just did have luck, it's what the game is about Also even having cool trinkets many legendary heroes can die anytime you can even have enough luck for a hero to get hit 10 times on death's door without dying (happened to me)

The video is a lighthearted attempt to make fun of whiny players who say the game is too hard. They're wrong, of course. Darkest Dungeon is _not_ too hard, it's _just hard._ The video definitely got the lighthearted half right, but utterly failed in the rebuttal half. The whiners are the same people who never make it far into the game. Showing them that high level heroes with rare and powerful items can kick ass does not address their criticism: that the game is too hard. Whiny players don't have high level heroes and rare, powerful items. They have low level heroes and maybe no items at all because they need the pittance of gold from selling them more than the pittance of stat boosts low level items give you. A _proper_ and _valid_ rebuttal of the claims that this game is too hard would be showing excellence and ease of execution with the resources a low level, whiny player would have. That would definitively prove that the game is not too hard--that success is in fact possible with their meager resources, and that they're just a sucky, whiny quitter. So git gud. Instead we have well equipped heroes with max level abilities dumping on noobs because they aren't well equipped and don't have max level abilities _that make the game easier_ (but still not easy).

But that's still the point of the game You cant expect to just go into a dungeon and rape everything on first try, specially since the game told you it was gonna be hard The game SAYS your heroes will die and you'll have to run away from missions, so whining about it being hard instead of learning to use buffs, stuns, get trinkets and properly deal with stress dealers is just not wanting to actually play the game The first missions arent even that hard, unless you go to the cove, they are all short missions and they dont get harder until you kill the boss

I agree completely. You seem to be under the impression that I'm saying the game is too hard and needs to made easier. That is not the case. _Nothing is wrong with the game._ Darkest Dungeon is just fine. It's a grueling slog that rewards sound tactical decisions and strategic thinking. That's why I love it. My issue is not with the game, but with _this video._ Players who complain of the game's difficulty are almost invariably referring to the early game, with heroes around first to second level. Anyone who sticks with it longer generally isn't inclined to whine about anything because they've come to terms with the difficulty and enjoy Darkest Dungeon in spite of or because of it. (I'm in the _because_ category. I like the difficulty.) This video prefaces itself with some complaints: the standard fare of _"Game is too hard,"_ and _"RNG is fucked,"_ then goes on to show how easily it can be overcome, as if to say _"It's so easy to win when you just don't suck."_ And that's true. The game is easier when you don't suck at it. But what we are treated to is not actually a display of superior _skill,_ but superior _math._ What we see highlighted are the use of high level abilities boosted by rare items and how _bigger numbers kick ass._ Of course it's easy to win when your dice are loaded. Thus the complaints of "Game is too hard," and "RNG is fucked," go unaddressed by the video. The answer to those complaints isn't "Just use high level shit to breeze through it, ya noobs." The answer is "No, the game is not too hard, you just give up too easily and make bad decisions; and no, the RNG works just fine."

How do you revive characters?

DGneoseeker1 a random town event, 80 weeks and i got the event once.

you can do the same with level one charcters actually if i remember correctly the plague doctors buff starts at around 20% stuck that with tracking shot and you got yourself around 30% on the first turn now just wait for the second one and start wrecking your enemies while stacking the buffs further also thats what torches are for to keep the RNG from screwing you over

They wouldn't have any equipment upgrades, though, and if you're actually starting out then you'll be low on gold with which to buy skills. That's also ignoring the point that playing this game with torches is playing it on easy mode. Furthermore, this strategy is actually terrible. As soon as you fight a boss you're just asking to lose. There are some bosses that just immediately take a random character out of action. 50/50 chance of your strategy being nullified completely. This video really is just "If I play on the lowest difficulty it's not hard!"

if the game is too hard play on easy thats the point of the fucking easy mode also i completed this game and never had a boss just take my character out in one turn unless its the hag also you should have enough gold to buy 1 or 2 abilities if you sell useless trinkets

Fire Emblem is much less RNG than DD. And you can save in that Game.

Sounds like Fear and Hunger

Darkest Dungeon is far more skill based than you think.

only crit and stress rng fucks me over i get a brave one like 1/50 and my healer is guranteeeeed to refuse to heal once stress hits 100 my frontline becomes scared af and runs in the backline and my blight guy is like yo potions are not my thing i'm gonna do what ever is the least effectiv right now

finally a comment that says something smart, thank you

How is this "abusing"? Its a combo of 2 good skills, why would he not use it? This game is about finding effective combinations of characters.

It's called "Suicide Mission" in this game if you enters the last dungeon level. Because I had EVERYONE maxed, cleam of stress, with rare itens and yet, that fuckin abomination from outher dimension painted the floor and the walls with the blood of my party...

"The game, is fun. The game, is a battle." "If it's not fun, why bother? If it's not a battle, where's the fun?" - Reggie

kosmique a little hostile much? I paid for the game right? So I should be able to mod it the way I want to be fun for me. I just overcorrected a bit. With my work schedule I need faster payoffs than what this game has to offer (or I just need to play the game unaltered when I have the time/ sanity). I’ve messed with other games to make them more fun, and while I may have completed them in those states, I would never actually consider it beating the game.

@@sorenveluxidus274 A lot of people go into this game without the time or patience to learn it and that's where the hate comes from. It's like a good book with a slow beginning in my opinion.

Yeah, I only once had a problem, where I was hit by 7 crits over 3 rounds

Kirkendall Greene it IS like xcom (in my opinion as well). Very cool game, and yes VERY difficult if you try to just play through without thinking a bit first.

It is absolutely umlike xcom, in that the possibility space it presents you with is so unbelivably fucking narrow that you are basicaly forced into an entirely linear and hideously repetitive game, unless you are ready to basicaly lose an entire run in half a minute to bullshit.

get good at rng?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA funniest fucking thing ever! contradict your self in 4 words, thats pretty impressive.

mysticx0 Not at rng, it's not really rng based, if you know what your doing and plan ahead the game will go smoothly.

It is RNG based tough, no matter how much you plan ahead, it's still just a chance, meaning that you might or might not still get entire misses on the enemy, while they all crit you in just 1 turn, or you might end up with a character critting and killing everyone on the entire team. You can make the odds go in your favor, but it's still just odds, meaning that if RNGJesus wants to fuck you over, he will, no matter how hard you try.

The Leper is slow, inaccurate, and only hits the front. I like the Leper as a damage dealer, but the Highwayman has a very different role.

Podo OneK all true statements, but if you give him an accuracy trinket and the cresendo box then BAM he can hit a target, keep up with monsters better, and still HIT LIKE A TRAIN CRASHING INTO A TRUCK!

true but he was only using point blank shit which has even less range than the leper

He could have used something else if the situation needed it. Leper's good for melee and tanking but can't deal damage for sh*t to the backliners.

Leper, just like any other class in the game, is great if you know how to use him. He might have bad accuracy, but that can be fixed with trinkets easily, and besides, every class has some weakness. The whole idea is to get the team to synergise and work together, rather than solely relying on one party member. Leper might not be able to hit the back row, but he is able to tank a lot of damage whilst allowing the others to hit the back row. Plus his 'Intimidate' skill has an excellent debuff on the enemies (DMG and PROT). Great against other tanks for sure. :)

Narrator: *Speaks* Me: Why do I hear boss music?

Inspiration!

Light! The promise of safety!

Yeah! But in radiance, we may find victory

*ssssssssedated*

I've heard it's a slow and insidious killer.

He is going to be ERRADICATED

I forgot what they say about overconfidence though

His size has no intrinsic value either!

maybe the slow and insidious killer was the friends we made along the way

Wait what!? No way!

Don't Panic yep... that or they saw their review page and panic-nerfed the doc out of fear.

And his Pal B U G M A N But that just seems dumb. I mean, emboldening vapours was risk vs reward. spending a turn that you could've spent on hurting/killing an enemy, to instead buff another hero, could easily be a shitty move which could result in death. Why they would nerf it is beyound me.

My guess is that it got nerfed for Endless mode. A stacking damage buff may not be so strong when you've only got one set of enemies to kill, but when you start getting wave after wave after wave, but you're knocking them down as soon as they rise up because you just one-shot them... yeah then it's a little bit too strong.

But the buff lasts till the end of the fight. Buddy, it wasn't nerfed, it got better.

It gives genuine good tips...plus the voice fills in the silient walks and make the battles more climactic.

Rember son die is gay

Plus, with how he phrases his sentences, he essentially gives you 'hope through despair'- reminding you to treat every encounter like it is your last, and not to get to cocky, or else one mistake will cost your party dearly.

@@charadreemerr4195 "overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer" i cant say how many people were obliterated just because i got cocky

@@thespork798 “I can take a Thing fight” “Yeah sure I could use an ancestral trinket” “Talismans of the flame are overrated”

*Also useful for Shin Megami Tensei

Was just thinking about using Jester buff on him too 🎶 💪

That argument has a 95% chance to resonate with people. But we all know that 95% means nothing. God, I hate Chryssalids so fucking much...

@@FifinatorKlon Bladestorm or rocket punch, depending on the game. It makes me SO happy.

Mmm BB is a fun and frustrating game. I think BB is MUCH harder than Darkest Dungeon.

@@FifinatorKlon i like to use mechs to deal with them just face tanking the burrow charge

@@GWo14 BB?

It is the only game that preaches a moral harder than undertales "dont kill people"

excpet when your vestal gets killed with the first fight cuz the 6 and 7 spd spiders all outspeeded you double leper 6 and 10 spd

@@maelmesplou5972 If you bring a double leper, I pray the heart has no mercy upon you ngl lol

@@thegamefur7330 But Undertale does it way better.

@@emredemirel9724 that's game is literally aids

Serpentar9000 ok, i laughed harder than what i should've

That's sum berserkium my dude

I'm disappointed there is no fanart xD

Yeah, no joke. I just bought the game this week, 19 hours so far. It's hard but man I love it

In no way is DD any difficult if you just grasp the basics like what curios do what and which enemies need killing first (spoiler: stress dealers). People refuse to learn is all. Also, what the guy shows on the video is horrendously inefficient: why would one bring Plague Doctor solely for buffs when you could've just switched her over for another Highwayman in the first place for much higher damage output much sooner into the fight.

I have abandoned it after 70 hours but now I'm playing it again

@@DartiousEst because the buff stacks, so in the end 1 highwaymen is gonna have higher damage than 4 higwayman

@@taelfayre6632 In what, four turns of incessant buffing? Taking damage and stress all the while? And only then would this squad actually start outputting damage? With any semi-decent composition, any regular fight will have been over by that time. You don't win by dragging out each encounter, it's counter-productive. That's not to mention the repercussions of what would happen if highwayman was most unfortunately stunned. I apologise for being excessively verbose, but imagine if you just stunned the two back rows instead of mindlessly spamming buffs thus effectively removing two enemies on turn one. Then proceeded to nuke the squishy in the second row, set up kills on the stunned bunch and eliminated them on turn two before they had the chance to react. And then mopped up whatever was lucky enough to have survived the alpha strike on turn three. Done. You're not supposed to go for these pointless convoluted lengthy schemes when all that's required for successful operation is your limiting the party's exposure to stress mainly by ending fights before they've taken any meaningful toll on your heroes.

Radiant does not make the game easier (it doesn't reduce enemy damage, accuracy, etc.) but it does make it more forgiving.

After a while, I found many great strategies, then the game bored me, the actions and animations are too slow.

@@islacsilva854 mmm hmmmm

I've recently finished my radiant plauthrough and i'm doing stygian now, here's a few differences i've noticed (i think stygian and darkest are the same in terms of these mechanical differences from radiant, don't know if bloodmon has even more complications). 1, you go through way more torches. An unchecked corridor tile in radiant takes off 6 light units, while in stygian it takes 7, and that sounds small but it means that if you're traversing a 4 tile corridor like in the warrens then in radiant you just need a torch, in stygian a torch and a little bit more. 2, heroes are more picky. In radiant enemies up to lvl 4 can go both to lvl 1 (green) and lvl 3 (yellow) missions while only characters lvl 5 and 6 refuse to go on green missions but still go on yellow missions. In stygian, meanwhile, lvl 3 heroes won't go to lvl 1 missions and, supposedly, i guess lvl 5 heroes won't go to lvl 3 missions (haven't got there yet) so you can't just bring a hero three levels higher to a boss and wipe the floor with him, you need to be careful about how much you level heroes. 3, the good old "never again" feature in the darkest dungeon. In radiant, heroes who win a darkest dungeon mission and get marked with the torch near their name could theoretically go back in there in a pinch and suffer a fuckton of stress (i still don't recommend it, i brought a marked bounty hunter for the second darkest dungeon and i almost had a full party wipe, two guys died actually battling and one died while retreating from the dungeon, and guess which one survived? The fucking bounty hunter) whereas in darkest and stygian they are literally not allowed to go back, so you need to consider that and prepare to get 24 level 6 heroes total (i repeat that this is the least important detail of the three since you shouldn't bring heroes back in radiant either, but i guess it might be important if you're going for that "reynauld and dismas fight the final boss" achievement). That's all the changes i've found so far, maybe there's more, and then of course there's the death counter but that's a stygian exclusive. Sorry for the fucking wall of text, it's 3 a.m. and my "don't write too much, people aren't gonna read that shit" sensors are fried. I'm going to bed. Bye.

I feel you fam. I experienced it twice.

@Tyler Natividad Best way for me was to just nuke it. Used phase 1 to remove all stress and full heal + buff the group with my Jesters Battle ballad to the max (it stacks 4 times i think) since theres is barrely any stress and damage coming in if you keep the amount of crystals low. In phase 2 i just nuked it with my Abbo and Leper (leper with Acc/crit trinkets+Ballad buffs never missed once) and did some damage with my Jester while my vestal just spammed heals. Once i got some nice stacks for finale i used a turn of my abbo to get my Jester in position and nuked it down. Did easily do 50-100 damage per round (dependent on crits) and it ended before the Sleeper could do some major damage

Couldn't have said it better.

@Tyler Natividad I like running Vestal-Plague Doctor-Flagellant-Shieldbreaker. The Blights and Bleeds, combined with armour piercing attacks from the Shieldbreaker cause it to collapse, while it only having one attack per turn allows the Vestal to keep everyone above Death's Door.

I'm just super careful and keep select teams that I level up until they are as powerful as they can be and when I need quick loot I just send out cannon fodder to clear lower level dungeons.

TL:DR

Heydelios if you read the entire descriptions you we’ll be aware that’s the torch are use for summon "the darkness" or a shit like that so WHAT DID YOU THINK MIGHT HAPPENING...sorry I know that you take this sittuation pretty well but I have just enough of the persons who complains about this boss and said that’s one proof that’s a shitty game because they don’t have read the entire descriptions of the autel :/

That wasn't really a complaint about the Shambler, lol.

Podo OneK yeah I knowk but there are so many people who don't stop complaining by saying that's unfaire the game doesn't warn us etc I fully understand you doesn't complain about him ^^

at least he didnt run in to the keeper with his best tank and healer not being present due to stress

Beat the Shambler my second time though the ruins xD Only my grave robber survived xD RIP my healers xD

Bingo ^_^ Just like a real dungeon experience

bad situation? Last map > shouldnt retreat > first wave 2x cultist > 10 bleeds in a row + crits despite my 132% resist > man at arms died > retreat > die 1 more. Bad situation haHAA ITS THE FUCKING WORST SITUATION POSSIBLE

that whole message is basically " Your guys will die, deal with it."

Yep. The funniest is when they complain that it gets harder at th end, broken levels of hard. Ya know, the point in the game where you’re fighting the alien that will end all life on earth, 🙄should be easiest part of the game

@@joelrichardson5139 Ahah Ebriatas Aproved XD

BACK TO THE PIT

The light! The promise of safety!

"Making the most of a bad situation." Yeah i did that when i forgot trinkets going into the darkest dungeon. I still beat it with all of my heroes staying alive.

"All four?" You're talking about one of the runs before the Heart, right? Otherwise Imma callin' bullshit.

KrimzonFlygon1 Look for THEREALSPARTAN's video of him killing the Heart without anyone dying.

KrimzonFlygon1 it was the third run aka "belly of the beast" aka the easiest. gotta admit, if it had been any other DD level i would've been dead

I've seen it. Even that was entirely dependent on luck: THEREALSPARTAN said it himself that he tried a ton of times before it actually worked.

This

Fight smart all you want, sometimes you will get shit on though. Not like that's a complaint since sometimes, those things just happen.

Leeroy Jenkins turbometa stacked team with perfect trinkets in a low level Weald, still almost managed to have Houndmaster hit 100 stress from RNG traps, how was this supposed to prove your point again?

Chris Messier shit happens

that's why you bring a jester / crusader to heal stress on places you know are full of traps

well that review of life is actually true

1.0/10.0 I was born as a fuck up and could never change it, my early game was bad, my middle game was worse, and my endgame was just boring, would not recommend, I suggest the abortion option at the start of the game or suiciding early on to respec faster, either way , would not recommend

@@ejcy429 emo

@@odsttrooper3724 what the hell means RNG? Regeneration?

@@thatboyakira4202 random number generation/generator

I’m not even 20 hours in and I’ve already kill two bosses and didn’t loss one soldier

@@handsomegrinch6279 lower lvl is easy but 5 and 6 is impossible

@@handsomegrinch6279 i BeAt Ds3 AnD cUpHeAd oN lEvEl 1 jUsT iN 3 MiN wItH mY NoSe

*laught in rejoin your creator*

@@ogueyratogeyrat7448 oh and one piece of advice: don't send your better party in the first mission in the mansion, because any party who successed in it will never be able to be sended back, not that they will be killed, they will just refuse by pure fear

did you snuff out the torch? i did that too, when i made a new playthrough and got smashed at the last fight...

Exposed to a killing blow!

F

That's rough buddy

Now you won't get the achievement rip

You forgot the "l"

That's right way to say that. Choosing right characters for each dungeon, right moves, right placement, strategy, items etc. etc. Will help with many encounters, tbh bosses are much less likely to kill you than random encounter in dungeon, because pretty much nearly every or every boss has some cheesy way to optimize against him. You get unlucky with RNG and your favorite Bounty Hunter named Gerwazy dies? You swallow the big boy pill and name different Bounty Hunter a Gerwazy II

Each area has an exploitable weakness Warrens: flagellant can and will tear through the warrens Cove: stack blight and more blight Ruins: blight and just stuns Weald is generally harder but you can do it with PD and Hellion However the true test is the darkest dungeon cause the difficulty spike will shoot up

@@mrszmatan2727 I remember how I almost quit the game after my bounty Hunter named Digby died of blight and a heart attack bc i forgot to bring antivenom to the weald (i was broke) I was in absolute sorrow, since Digby failed almost every other expedition but still somehow stayed alive all the way up to resolve level 3, and was the one that killed the Swine Prince for the first time. Also it has been whole 10 weeks without any character death so yeah But I got over it and eventually got a Bounty Hunter named Derek on board, and so far he looks promising. Still, Digby will always be in my heart

I'm one of those people who thinks about party, provisions, skills and trinkets for 5 minutes and forgets to bring shovels. It's much more painful to lose a veteran that you spent thousands of gold on when you understand that it's your fault. XD

Apropos!

jeanpaul reeve same

Same

And everyone you know too!

Not a roguelike

@@buttqueef9900 "Not a roguelike" Yeah, no. These are the steam tags for Darkest Dungeon: Turn-Based Combat, RPG, Dungeon Crawler, Dark Fantasy, Rogue-like, Lovecraftian, Difficult, Turn-Based, Perma Death, Singleplayer, Atmospheric, Strategy, Indie, Dark, 2D, Horror, Rogue-lite, Fantasy, Gothic, Kickstarter. And here is the first paragraph of "Roguelike" on Wikipedia: "Roguelike is a subgenre of role-playing video game characterized by a dungeon crawl through procedurally generated levels, turn-based gameplay, tile-based graphics, and permanent death of the player character. Most roguelikes are based on a high fantasy narrative, reflecting their influence from tabletop role playing games such as Dungeons & Dragons." Darkest Dungeon Literally has every single thing there. Easy to spot casuals.

Roguelikes aren't turn based unless you're really liberal with the interpretation but go off I guess

@@buttqueef9900 Yes. I'm being 'liberal with the interpretation' to imply it is in fact, a Roguelike. The game has every single trait that would define a Roguelike. Yet, you seem to deny the fact that it is- for reasons unbeknownst to the rest of us. Ever* hear of the game "Rogue"? Just because it's not The Binding of Isaac(which doesn't even Turn Based gameplay), doesn't mean it's not a roguelike. Your perceived logic is flawed, because it's even more Roguelike than Isaac is.

@@knownas2017 Both Binding of Isaac and Darkest Dungeon are not Roguelikes, they are Rogue-lites. Also when did either of those games acquire "tile-based graphics"?

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It's ok, it happened to me too. I craved the void.

Happened to me too first time. I had my optimal setup though and in good health and spirits so i thought "can''t be that bad, see what happens" ... I made it out with everyone, but at deaths door and pretty much at 200 stress. Had to abandon quest and deal with that for weeks hah

Honestly, interacting with the altar for the sake of curiosity and then party wiping to shambler is a critical point of growth in this game. It’s like a coming of age thing. It happens to LITERALLY everyone at some point or another.

Hell on my most recent playthrough I encountered the Shambler in the hallway. I didn't think that it could be, so I was caught off guard. Still managed to slaughter it though and it felt good to be prepared. I was in the Ruins and I typically prep for the Collector when I go in there.

Sorry pal, your decisions are based on what happens on screen, and what happens on screen is decided by RNG, or maybe there is something I didn't understand. Thing is, no matter your decisions, RNG decides if it's a success or not. You can influence it greatly (that's why it's hard but very playable, and very rewarding), but when it decides to fuck you bad, it fucks you bad, RNG has the last word. Always.

Hey dude, slow down. There is a misunderstanding, and I don't know why because I didn't say anything that could justify it. First, I do not blame the RNG (I said the game relied on it), and secondly, I know very well the game mechanics, thank you very much. Do not take me for a whiny casul player that complains about RNG. I love the game, I play it a lot, with succesful results for the most part. I'm not complaning here. Now that it's out of the way, let's focus on what i'm ACTUALLY saying. Indeed, players decisions are between your hands, that's why it's playable, and those decisions affects RNG, with various percentage values, and sometimes nullifying them (cleansing curios for example). However. Decision making is linked to RNG, and ultimately RNG will have it's way. Lot of percentage values are capped (example being the virtue chance) and even if an event is 5% chance, there is a risk, even with all the skill you can get. You have to think around the RNG, and make you decisions according to it. The alchemy between decision making and RNG works well, but since you have to work around it and influence it, I can't think of any other qualification than RNG based. It's a game of statistics and dices, like role-playing games. And frankly I don't see where you got the impression that I complaned about it. The game relies on RNG, everything that you do in game is processed by the RNG, that is a fact. And now that I think of it, most games are dependent on RNG. especially RPGs.

Yeah, sure. And the fact that I'm no native speaker, could explain the gap between your vocabulary and mine. Found the misunderstanding by the way: I do think that RNG does decide if you succeed or fail, but at a small scale, not concerning the whole game. You were talking about decision making in the game (preparation, thought and strategy), I was talking about micro-actions in the game (attack success, curios, and dodge rate). If you fail a move, RNG's fault, if you fail your mission, player's fault.

Nice, what languages do you speak?

Dude, si tu m'avais dit ça dès le départ, j'aurais pas galéré à chercher mes mots avec autant de soin.

"Frustration and fury, more destructive than a hundred cannons."

The Tony Montana Approach.

Of course the mindless circlejerk comments get the most likes, welcome to RU-vid.

Space Iguana I was thinking the same thing.

Make your own luck.

that viking girl T-T my hellion deserves better

she isnt a viking

roflmao. I guess you've meant yourself.

A bunch of people who play RPGs still don't like this game and cite RNG. I play RPGs and I cannot for the life of me enjoy this game. It's punishing and it laughs at your defeat. The RNG is extra salt in the wound. Dark Souls is a cakewalk compared to this shit

Or Dungeon Crawlers or any Tabletop. The thing those people don't understand is that they need to take out the Mathhammer and calculate their chances. The longer you play the percentages of successes and losses will get closer to the given number. Yes sometimes you will fail a 99% twice in a row. But how many times did you succeed with a terrible chance?

theres a fucking save button in most RPGs

@@KrAzY2KiLLs Then play a no safe run.

That just seems like an XCOM moment tbh

@@sirrismendozasunlessrealms5775 Funny you say that I had an xcom moment where one of my guys had a 100% chance to hit and still missed. I believe that was glitch but still.

Funnily enough i saw a steam positive review saying that exact thing. And it is correct.

Shoutout to finding my review.

"The game it's unfair, even when I crit 50 in a mob on first turn and I kill it, or crit 60 heal in my occultist with no bleed"

Well still the delta of rng is sometimes stupid. Recently had a fight against 4 spiders: i use my turns to kill 2 of the spiders , the third spider randomly dodges. First spider attacks, marks my vestal with a crit, applies blight, second spiders turn, crits vestal again, vestals turn, instant death on the first turn of combat. Yeah thats rare and i dont realy mind it happening. But there was nothing i could have done to prevent something like that. Especially in the begining where you dont have enough items and money to prevent something like this. This game has a larger delta of rng than other comparable games (meaning the difference between the worst and the best possible outcome). This game also doesnt have a good tutorial and is pretty much impossible to pick up unless you use youtube tutorials, wikis and comunity guides. And a lot of players prefer not to do these things.

in a game like this you gotta do some research or grit your teeth and learn on the job and pray for the best

+fleeb bleef That's why the Ancestor says that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer...

Ummm dude, it takes about 7 or 8 adventures to bring a party of fresh adventurers to max level. Unless you are playing on Quaaludes and acid that shouldn't take you 20 hours, more like 4 or 5 tops and that's if you are a slow player.

That still sounds like 4 hours of shit he done already went and did

"oh no, he's forced to play the game, arrgggh the industry!"

repeating content we sure didn't learn that was bad game design back in the arcade days, arggh the idiocy

The fact that you even use the tavern with the possibility of loosing a good trinket shows you didnt actually manage to learn the game. Because there is an alternative thag avoids this needless risk.

Darkest Dungeon is about learning it all, anything about the game must be in your mind so you can avoid everything bad you have control over. Otherwise you get fucked by RNG plus what you could have avoided if you would have known. This game is for hardcore gamers only...

@@ineednochannelyoutube5384 Yes, bud, that's how you learn the game. You make mistakes. It wasn't that he "didn't actually manage to learn the game," it was that he didn't know about this one thing. I swear, the inverse proportion of some gamers' egos to the significance of their accomplishments is one of the marvels of the age Edited to qualify "gamers" as "some gamers."

@@toucan2227 Agreed. People need to be less dicks about it. That's the good thing about people that cheat (outside of multiplayer of course) like me. We know we are shit at the game and just want to have fun :3 So we are gonna make our own fun. If something is too hard for you, and you don't enjoy it, why not go for a Trainer or a good Mod? Isn't illegal, and if it helps, why not :3

Man of culture spotted

Dani 99k

HE CALLED IT

11 months later ... 696k lol

Because the game is made on purpose that way, it tells you at the beginning, the game expects a lot from you, on the other hand, I got to have up to 6 vestals at different levels for different teams, you can't close yourself to having only one team, because when you finally go to the darkest dungeon that team won't want to go back in

@@wilsonarenas7583 Yeah the warning is clear, but my point is not due to that message being missed. The fact stands, people are hacking the save files. It's super easy!

​@@jayswizzle57 ​ Ya not sure my friend. Last I tried it was on PC!

I never heard of that, I only know "YOU DIED"