_ Cezarpower _ I’m sorry. It was a mere joke only meant for entertainment purposes. If you do not like it, I apologise again. I am sorry if I offended you in any way.
isnt star wars basically a never ending cycle of jedi and sith killing each other to come up on top only to nearly get extinct, rebuilding themself killing each other like forever
That's why Kreia who wants to destroy the force to give everyone in the galaxy their own free will (it is said that the force is also something like destiny/fate) is basically the real "good" character in my opinion lol
"The dark side of the force is a pathway to main abilities some consider to be unnatural." Both Darth Sion and Darth Nilhus are the personification of this quote in KOTOR 2... a year before Palpatine said it in RotS.
Things I watch while doing that (in no particular order): 1. Star Wars. 2. Anime. 3. God of War. 4. Random unnecessary videos that randomly pop up in my feed.
Yes Rebels malachor Episodes: SHOWS OVERTLY: KOTOR: is a JOKE to Disney lol. And they used the nostalgia of the NAME MALACHOR to draw in adults...and thankfully: It didn't work: THAT WELL: but as far is "Legends a joke to disney" YES and also: it's the Pool they will borrow from quietly: Then turn around and claim: "There was nothing there."
@@Hazaroth I dont even remember Nihilus but I still remember Sion, and the fact that he was so powerful in the force that he was immortal and you ultimately get rid of him by talking him into losing his will to live. It was pretty brutal and it still comes back to me everytime I watch starwars, even though I forgot almost everything from Kotor...
He is my favorite Sith, such a tragic and despicable being. I especially like how he was depicted as no more than a pathetic pawn manipulated by everyone, he was never in charge and he knew it. What I find more sad about his existence is that nobody remembered him, he never appeared again in the Legends Lore, it was either Traya or Nihilus despite being the Sith who dealt the heaviest blow towards the Jedi Order before the Empire and having the unique ability of true Immortality. Neither Vitiate nor Sidious managed that, their methods were unorthodox when comparing it to Sion.
That’s how I feel maul is, like he would never been in charge(although maul wasn’t a full sith so) And not many people in the actual universe are gonna talk about maul. We will but no one there in the actuals universe probably won’t remember maul.
LOL yeah and disney can't even create something such as "Darth Nox: A star wars story" or "Empire's Wrath: A Star Wars Story". The SWTOR storylines are basically better than all the movies combined.
The Expanded Universe had plenty of meh parts as well, Luke Skywalker basically becomes Jedi Deus Ex Machina with how many times he saves the day in the EU stories after Episode 6 and how he masters every Force technique the story needs him to in order to win. They also ship him with one person after another until the writers settle with Mara Jade.
You know why Disney made legends non-cannon right? If they wanted to keep all of that cannon theyd have to read ALL of the lore and make sure they dont go back on it. It makes sense why they made legends non-cannon and then slowly start reintroducing it so that they could get it right. (Which is ironic given they cant get the movies right)
A choice...he was too much of a coward to make himself...it's ironic...the cure of his own self hatred complex: Was to stop being a coward. A perfect contract: of Legendary Power: in a Child's Mind. ONE manipulation... And the Child...surrenders...it IS: the perfect hypocrisy for him to speak: as he finally: gains the courage he needs to die.
@@TheVanillaBandit Play the game and you'll understand. Or wont be smart enough: and wont? IDK what else to tell you if Sion's Core Character Trait: his fear of dying: and him being a coward and continuing to use his Pain ability all so he could hate himself and well basically everything due to ABUSE from his -Mother- Archetype: went over your head? Dont worry: this game goes over at least 2/3s of the people who play it's head. Play it again: focus on Sion and his relationship to Traya and The Exile: and it'll make sense...or... It won't and you'll wonder...forever.
One thing I enjoyed in the story was that all the major characters stuck to the theme of wounds. The Exile, Sion, Traya, and Nihilus all took power from their wounds and inflicted them on their opponents and allies alike. The difference between the Exile and the Sith was that she didn’t allow herself to fully surrender to her pain or grow obsessed with the Force to deal with it. Thanks mostly to Traya’s teachings and her allies, she started herself and the galaxy on a path to true healing.
Sion, according to some star Wars theories, was in constant pain and like it was said in the video, the force was the only thing holding his body together. The guy was already dead ffs, the only reason he didn't decompose into a skeleton was because he focused only on his pain and anger. Guy was literally 'local man too angry to die'. 😂
While he suffered possibly the greatest physical pain a dark lord ever has, the one to suffer the greatest psychological pain will always be Darth Vader...
I mean if every old sith lords knowledge has comed to one person sith would be unstople tho imagine palpatine is able to destroy life energy of a planet gets more powerful when he gets hurt can put his soul to an object and live forever i mean imagine palpatine has power of sion,nihulis,bane,malak,revan,vitiate,plageueis,tenebrous,zannah, at once he would be an monster
Or Sion's child like mind that with even the INKLING of attraction caused him to "give up". Aka kill himself. Quite easily In the End. Exile: (Force Persuade) I love you. Sion: Yes. Exile: Kill yourself: and or die. Sion: Yes (dies). Exile: *He wasn't THAT angry.*
@K Korona Kreia is the fucking antagonist, and she's nihilistic asf, not a Mary Sue trait at all, and also she's wise and experienced, very calculating and logical, she just has some layers of plot armor, but nothing like a Mary Sue
@K Korona Hm, personally I think you couldn't be more wrong. Kreia is basically more of a grey/out of the ordinary character by Star Wars standards. While powerful in the force, she is no Yoda or Sidious as far as we know in strength. She earned her knowledge and strength over a long lifetime, as not only just a Jedi and then a Sith, but also as a more independent force sensitive jaded by both the Jedi and Sith Orders. She was, in a way, a lot more like Luke Skywalker in the sequel trilogy (not entirely, just in a few ways) Luke grew disillusioned with the Jedi, and being Jedi, thousands of years after Kreia had. Kreia had lived for decades as a Jedi (like Dooku had, for a comparison) before turning to the dark side - frustrated with the limitations of the Jedi (just like Dooku - though his reasons for abandoning the order were also political as well as ideological, whereas Kreia was more of a victim of circumstance as well as the backlash over the Revanists turning rogue as they followed Revan on an increasingly dark path against the Mandalorians, against the wishes of the Jedi Council) As a Sith Lady, Darth Traya learned even more about the force. Kreia later regarded Jedi Master Atris, as being like herself in a younger time. Blinded by the dogma of the Jedi and prone to making judgements based on a flawed ideology, and being in denial about things that contradicted them. So right there you see that Kreia herself admits to being limited in her past, not some champion of trying to take down the force. You see, Kreia's main motivating drive is to *kill the force itself* and yes it is what she wants and no she isn't necessarily wrong for trying. The philosophy of Kreia is a very complex and ultimately fascinating take on Star Wars, and there is literally a documentary on youtube made nearly 2 hours long, describing and analysing this philosophy and other aspects of her interactions with other characters in her time, going into far greater detail than I can here. Suffice it to say, that Kreia is ''red pilled'' on the issue about the force so to speak. She is one of the few characters in Star Wars to actually, properly see through the dichotomies of the force and interpret the real horror show, groundhog day which is constantly playing out over and over and over again ad infinitum. The grand irony - among many ironies regarding Kreia - is that on the one hand she is clearly a remorseless, heartlessly indifferent monster in so many regards, more than willing to indulge in any viciousness and murder to get what she wants (often through others she manipulates with a horrific ease) and *yet* she is also genuinely disgusted by the force itself. Though she is, ironically (another one of those many ironies I'm talking about) consummately talented in the force, on par with some of the greatest force wielders in galactic history no doubt, she is hellbent on finding a way to end the force. Kreia grew to understand that, in reality, the symbiotic relationship the force has with force users, may not be quite as mysterious as the Jedi and Sith had long believed. The ''great mysteries of the force'' which both orders had sought to discover, the great trials and tribulations both (and other non-Jedi and non-Sith) would go through to find enlightenment - perhaps all of it was merely incidental and in some cases even coincidental. Quite frankly, the force uses beings as hosts for it's continuation, as much as the beings harness it; and as Kreia suspected, far more than just that. She found it maddening and sickening that the force would constantly have light and dark rise to meet each other and produce endless, repetitive cycles of warfare in which untold billions would rise and fall with the tides of war and peace, life and death. Kreia understood that herself, and every other force user, were possibly just the drones of the force itself. The thought disgusted her. And more than that, the great irony implies that she had sympathy for the galaxy - thinking it would be freer and better off, without the force. To strip the force from the galaxy wholesale, to stop the endless repetitive cycle. To basically break the wheel of the force (to borrow a phrase from Game of Thrones - but Kreia is a LOT smarter than Daenerys Targaryen lol ; not even close) The wheel Kreia sought to destroy, was that of the dominion over the lives of all the people of the galaxy that it seemed to have. This abhorrent (to her) predictability, and fake-ness about everything. It was disillusioning to her initially and later became her fixation. She recognised that monsters like Nihilus and Sion, were capable of rising over and over again. She knew that if it wasn't those monsters, it'd be another set of monsters. But she knew, in spite of all that, that even they were victims of the force. After all, the Mass Shadow Generator had caused Nihilus to become what he was - and Sion's insane process of clinging to life through pain, was also abhorrent to Kreia. As Star Wars Theory in this video explained, Kreia would never have appreciated this positively about Sion and couldn't have been further from that line of thinking. Calling Kreia a Mary Sue is one hell of a stretch. She evolved many times in her long life, and trained the likes of Revan. She was hardly a fool jumping out of nowhere to be super powerful, like Rey for comparison. She earned her stripes as a Jedi, then as a Sith, then as an exiled blind woman apparently unable to use the force (when she was actually one of the few force users in galactic history to survive what she went through - that is, being forcibly stripped of the force by not only the Lord of Hunger Nihilus, whom was known to devour entire planets of life force, but the Lord of Pain, Sion too) Surviving what she did just barely, she not only survived but managed to retain a shred of her power and from that, slowly rebuild in her own way. Kreia was a very skilled and powerful force wielder, though as I say, she ironically would have preferred to destroy the force altogether. Like other ''grey'' force users, she has views developed with appreciation for different aspects of how to use the force. While mocking the Jedi, she doesn't entirely discredit them - she appreciates that big portions of their knowledge and learning, are valid. Valid, in the sense that in the grand scheme of things, their insights are worth something. She was a Jedi for a long time, after all, and no novice. She didn't just suddenly become the Kreia as we see her during her interactions with those in-game. She is basically a veteran, of multiple forms of force mastery (and of war) Yet you think she is a Mary Sue? I think she is a morally grey character whom is more than happy to risk the deaths of most of the living beings in the galaxy in the short term to ''save the galaxy from the force'' in the long-term. She goes way beyond the kind of depression and apathy that Luke had in Episode VIII. She is not only disillusioned with the Jedi dogma, but way, way beyond that. She is like, ''fuck this noise entirely'' and trying to *flip the table* not just change the rules of the board game she is playing (figuratively speaking) [1/2]
The Sith Triumvirate are truly amazing in their own right. *Darth Sion,* Lord of pain who drew from his countless deaths and injuries only to become stronger, literally held together by the dark side of the force and his will to continue. *Darth Nihlus,* Lord of hunger who consumed the force and life energy of so many Jedi that it could be said he was no longer human and was a aspect of the force itself *Darth Traya,* Lord of betrayal she saw the force for what it really is, and unlike any other Sith Lord sought to destroy the force itself. Because how could anyone truly be free of the cyclical and sadistic nature of the force if they continue to rely upon it so? I consider her to be the greatest of the Sith since she represents not only the death of the force... but also the deconstruction of the Star Wars Universe.
Sidious was lucky, wise, and a rich politician. Powerful in the force? Maybe, where is the proof? His only accomplishment that i remember is killing the jedi that came to his office, and surviving vs 800 yr old yoda.....
Ian Sweigart you are an idiot. Sidious in legends summoned a fucking force black hole. He was stupidly OP. Also Yoda was still powerful as hell at 800. He was weak in body but not in the force. There are hundreds of Sidious feats in legends making him a freaking comic book character basically.
My problems with kotor 2 are that the ending is incredibly rushed and underwhelming, and that there are quite a lot of bugs such as the one on Nar Shaddaa where the people enter your ship and you cannot properly progress.
having played both kotor games many times growing up, I was just so happy to see the exile I always chose happened to "make it" into this video and apparently legends canon..
@@imperiumgrim4717 just search "Star Wars Kreia" and it should be one of the first ten results. It'll be a black and white paint splatter silhouette of her as the thumbnail...
This is incredible how well you can explain all of this to a star wars newbie like me and also keep it entertaining. I've always kinda liked star wars but after finding your channel today and watching a couple of your films I actually fell in love with this. Keep up the good work mate!
@@kingatlanofatlantis3075 If the novel Revan is canon: KOTOR is Vitiaite's bitch...it's probably why SWOTR: never sold as the LORE has been a joke it's entire lifetime of 12-14 months: after which time the game dies (in 2013) and stays dead til (checks watch): today...imagine that lol.
My favorite Sith plot, its about time you covered the Triumvirate. I can't wait for the Traya character analysis. I look forward to watching that video a hundred times.
Hey man. Before I even watch this video, I just wanted to say that you're doing brilliantly and keep it up. Can see how genuine you are with Star Wars and you keep my faith within the industry too! Much love to you and many others from the UK.
@@rileyshugart2808 Well when he says "faculty" instead of "facility" and pronounces it "Har-bing-er" instead of "Har-bin-ger". He has the vocabulary, he just needs to practice his script 2-3 times before he records.
@@MrFlippybob A majority of the images Star Wars Theory uses in the video are promotional art for the game. By the way, Sion, Nhilus, and Traya were part of the Sith Triumvirate, not the "Sith Avengers". Call it for what it is.
@@MrFlippybob Sion, Traya, Nihilus, Revan (dark and light), Bastila Shan (dark and light) and more are in the game but they are counted as non canon appearances according to wookieepedia.
A few things: "Harr-bin-jer" "Eh-bun Hawk" "Ay-triss" among multiple others. I know mistakes happen, but there were a LOT in this video. I mean, you're Star Wars Theory and this is some of the most widely-beloved Star Wars lore here.
His has to get $250000 to pay for it he cannot crowd fund and can't make money i bet your not one of the people that support him on RU-vid or patreon are you
Kreia: There was an idea - Revan already knows this - called the Sith Triumvirate. The idea was to bring together a group of powerful Lords of the Sith to see if they could become something...more. To see if they could work together when we needed them to, to kill the Jedi in more horrific ways others never could.
Darth Harbinger was one of the greatest threats the galaxy had ever faced, until he was finally struck down by that ancient Jedi master, Commander Shepard. Something Something Bioware RPG bullshit.
He does appear to have trouble reading and pronouncing words correctly. I'm starting to believe someone else writes his content. He then reads from a script. Darth sion was disguised by the revelation? Not disgusted? There are MANY examples like that in most of his videos. Hate to be a grammar Nazi. But it's odd for a channel so slickly made in all other respects.
dont get me wrong. i love his channel and think its the best star wars out there. and he seems like a good dude. but you cant deny it does seem like he is reading a script. i think he has a team researching and writing. guess thats normal when you become a big channel though
@@hisdivineshadow8263 It's completely possible he has not played the KotOR games as most of the names and places are in spoken dialog so that shouldn't have been an issue. Multiple mispronunciations. The Lore aspect stands up to scrutiny though so that's at least accurate (except Peragus II being a planet, when it was actually an asteroid). At least that's the one I caught.
In my childhood I played KOTOR 2, I was young and loved the game. It took me nearly a year and a half to get as far as I was, one day after school I turned my original Xbox on and the file had corrupted. That was 10 years ago and I've never played it since.
Ah, im sorry. But those pronounciations? Has it been years since your last Kotor 2 playthrough? Like, the facts are good, but some parts of the pronounciations are far off... Do a playthrough live on youtube perhaps to freshen up the memory :) (Loved the video)
Remember all those giveaways he did with the lightsabers I wish you did another one my favourite lightsaber is the Obi Wan Kenobi lightsaber it's slim and it looks nice and it's classic design is really good respond with your favourites
my take on darth sion, he never truly died but went to rest but could come back if he so chose to. in theory to me he has the ability to "adapt" much like the "borg" from star trek. any and all fatal damage done to him is corrected and therefore cannot die in the same manner or similar experience. he returns to life within a single brief moment, now with the ability to unleash his potential there would be no point because then he would have such said potential. his rage would be so deep that his body would strike for him without thinking and processing, his thoughts would be comprised of only the fight itself. he would fight recklessly but also without limitation, he would fight and his body would adjust so quickly to the battle at hand that he would inherit the phrase "Be water, my friend." his speed would outmatch even the incorporeality to a point where he would begin to leave and exit two dimensions at once as if he was never there in the first place. take for instance how starkiller pulled down the star destroyer. darth sion would simply become so strong he would grab the lightsaber with one hand and bend it to the point of snapping light in half. outright causing fear and hopelessness, think about that in terms of the darkside you have the ability to take something and turn it into nothing. when the light of hope dies there is only despair left. put in a proper backstory origin for darth sion such as why he felt the need to join the sith, such as family, being abused as a child, some form of trauma where he began to walk alone and lose any value in trust, or some form of drug abuse. then you have the ability to create a story with superb character development.
I think star wars should be remade. But instead of watching the story from the light side. We would watch the story from the dark side. Seeing how palpatine grew up instead of anakin etc.. I think that would be very interesting. I am just afraid that they'll mess it up and it will ruin sw for me and others.
@@lukapapez well, yes they're going to mess it up. They've erased and don't even acknowledge some aspects of Legends lore dude. Palpatine's life from birth to a Sith Lord is disturbing and horrible and really kinda explains why he's so evil (probably has a mental disorder). And his experiences with Darth Plagueis in the "Plagueis" novel are in that golden area of Legends content. Not gonna act like it didn't have some downright bad or contradictory shit but it wasn't all bad as ignorant haters or one book reading casuals would have you to believe...
Darth Sion: And I guess that's why they call me The Pain! The Death on my HANDS, should be death done with you. Purging like children, killin like lovers, shooting our Lightning: UNDER THE COV~ERS! And I GUESS that's why they call me The Pain! (Hums harmonica solo) *Meanwhile ten feet away.* Atton: Hey so...Uh...Meetra? Exile: Yeah? Atton: What is... Darth Sion: Dont put the saber away! Don't look at them, as you ta~ke their lives... Exile: Oh I Force Persuaded him to confess his love for me...it's still going on... Atton: ...I'll go get the ship... Exile: You do that... Sion: The DEATH ON OUR HANDS... Exile: sigh...(force Persuade) Sion...dew it Sion: Yes, (dies). Exile: Well...one suicidal All Powerful but Broken Child down...(looks towards Trayus Core) S~igh... Exile: *One to go.*
Sion: Child - Id Nihilus: Father - Ego (Actualization: only its a metaphor for his SINGULAR Actualization: of a Sith Technique: he BECOMES "Hunger") Traya: Mother - Super Ego (you can guess if one comprehends Kreia's suicidal). *So...you're actually more correct: then you even realize.*
@@matthewgraybeal3241 Well they dont HIDE the Child/Mother/Father THAT deeply: it's...just a matter of SEEING it and then... One can take a half step back and be all.."huh". As for example: the scene where Sion (Child) and Nihilus (Father): abuse and "exile:" Traya (Mother")...lol YOU CAN READ ALOT OF CONTEXT INTO THAT LOL: Again: IF one: IS so inclined lol. But the idea is...ARGUABLY directly or not: Sion (The Child) is Lead by (The Father) whose betrayed (His Mother). And as the "Father" is "abusive" Sion becomes lost with no one...to torture (Dark side "Love) him... TO GIVE HIS PAIN MEANING. Avellone's use of Friedrich Nietzsche and others IN plain sight but NOT SHOVING IT DOWN YOUR THROAT...is writing "balance" that's 15/10. As you CAN let it go over your head...or dive head first into ALOT of concepts... And the story is maintained. *That's not easy to do. Xenogears is the only other game off the top of my head where i've SEEN WRITING: this good/Balanced: imo granted.* Sigh...again...IS the LEVEL of WRITING: and AGING lol as in the IP GROWING UP: I Wish Star Wars kept...as mature stories like THIS? Will SELL. Sidenote: props to Respawn for at LEAST REMEMBERING the TONE...nothing original...lol hell NOTHING original lol (Fallen Order/First two Seasons of Rebels = Dark Forces 2...almost Literally): But hold up to the Past albeit it not the peak? Yes. And for that...hold lore like this close guys...IF Star Wars can make it OVER the cliff... AND AGE UP? Vs DOWN as it's been doing for 30 years? This IP...CAN get back on top...it just has to BEGIN AGING... With its fans like KOTOR 2 did...or slowly... "You will die..." ~Palpatine
A being can be immortal and still die. Immortal is not the same as invulnerable, impervious to injury. Such a being just won't die due to age. Lobsters are biologically immortal, yet they are killed and eaten all the time.
@@BenVaserlan Incorrect, from a certain point of view. As I've already pointed out it's possible to be immortal yet die. You're boxing yourself into a single narrow definition.
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