I’ll be honest I used to have the same ideology as FnF when I was younger.I didn’t like black girls because of all the reasons they said but when I turned 18 and started going to college my whole reality cracked and I met all different types of black women and I realized the reason I disliked black women as far as dating went was because of the environment I came from where most of them were like that.When i got college I met all different kinds of black women and one particular girl I developed a crush on was one of the most sweet ,kind,feminine woman ive ever met and she is a black woman.I do feel guilty for my ignorance and I wish I could’ve traveled more outside of the environment I was in.But I do love black women and also I realized anyone could have those preferences that FnF said it’s not exclusively for black women.
I missed this video. Haven't been on their channel in a while. I agree with Preach in a way that the manosphere amplifies the concept of misogynoir to an unnerving degree. However, I believe that the biggest problem and a glaring issue is that many black men on media platforms do not call the manosphere and hold them accountable. I honestly have not seen any other males from other races disrespect and viciously attack their women like black men do to black women and it's very telling. We as black women are not protected in the same light as white women or women of color. So, it is an easy tactic for black men to abuse the female side. Which sheds a horrible light on their character. I find it shocking they aren't disturbed about that and that many of them revel in it.
I know a lot of men of all nationalities who would find those comments disgusting. A lot of men protect women regardless of race. There’s “truth” to what he said but not in blanket statements like that. That’s just damaging. If he was trying to help black women he could address some of those things in regards to some black women having trouble tying a man down. I could see that angle being approached with compassion. That was just rotten and hurtful. I could describe plenty of white women exactly how he described black women. I’d never suggest all women are because it’s not even close to true about any group of people.
@@jaketaylor3129 what they said isn't racism. They said they wouldn't "date" black women because of their behavior. Behavior has nothing to do with skin color. Only that a large percentage of black women consistently have bad "behavior" for dating. The fact that they still find black women "physically attractive" means there is no racism.
@@davecirlclux they are self-hating. And they simply used racist stereotypes to describe black women. Just because you're attracted to someone doesn't mean you aren't racist against them. Just because you f***k black people doesn't mean you can't still be racist against them. It's like the stupid "I can't be racist because I have a black friend" bullshit excuse.🤦🏽♀️
As a black women myself, seeing how much people were saying negative things about us made me lost all self confidence growing up. I thought I was ugly, not good enough and not worthy to be loved. I remember a girl calling me a white girl recovered with black painting, because I wasn’t « ghetto » or « ratchet ». Because I had really good grades, I never engage in fight, I was calm, and I really liked reading. As if a black person means being guetto and once you’re not like that, you’re white. But I kept going and I didn’t change who I was and I eventually started attracting men (white, black, arab, but more white because I live in a very white country). Whenever a man showed interest in me, I’d feel like he was probably playing or not being serious. I couldn’t accept that some men would find me desirable or attractive because in my head, all the stuffs people says were true (I was really young tho I was 13/16. It’s only when I turn around 18/19 that I realised that what they say wasn’t the truth. (I’m turning 20 soon). I eventually manage to accept that I was not ugly and that some men would find me attractive and I do deserve them. It was pretty hard to grow up as a black girl because I remember some people would laugh at me and one day a boy in my class pulled my hair so strong because he thought I was wearing a wig (it was my actual hair in an Afro puff). But now things get better. I still see people trash talking about is black women, but it doesn’t affect me anymore. And tbh men who trash talk on black women, especially if they’re blank themselves are so unattractive to me that I just don’t care. There are a lot of men who treat us like actual human being so I rather give my attention and love to them.
Sounds like you and I have had basically the EXACT same experiences with being “white” “Oreo” “not like the other ones/one of the good ones” “pretty for a black girl” etc etc etc and I just wanna say I’m so happy and proud of you for staying true to who you are, what you like, and realizing what you deserve and raising your self esteem along the way 👏🏽👏🏽
well, considering I've heard the same shit being said by black woman and men towards white people, I'd have to agree but change it to "if you're surprised that someone of a certain race isn't a total asshole, it means you likely had a racist environment that taught you to expect the worst from other racial groups." I've met stupid doctors, but I'd never say, "You're pretty stupid for a doctor" now would I? That tells me that whoever you're speaking to was just an asshole.
@@CircumcisionIsChildAbuse yea it can definitely be said by any person about any group but I was just considering the context of the video and personal experience
I don't date loud, ratchety, materialistic women. I can't stand being around that type. If you fit in that box then you have to go. The fuuny thing is that the type exists across all spectrums. It's just that it only gets called out in one group.
Agreed. It’s even worse considering how most people with common sense who look around know this but the narrative still falls to one group. Until everyone can see how things can apply to many groups and not just one, then this crappy narrative will persist.
You're right! But to be honest, as much as I don't like those clowns I do understand they're referring to a stereotypical group of black women. There should be a universal name but unfortuntely black culture is the only culture that has a group that take pride in their stereotype (look at all the songs that refer to being "rachet" made by black women).
The sad part is a lot of it is the blame of social media and entertainment industry who would often uses or show that stereotypes onto black women mostly (like about 95% of time is shown on black women instead another other race).
As long as she's sexy, intelligent, and has a good personality I don't care what color, nationality, or whatever she is. Just be a decent human being, have a sense of humor, and be cute
@@JAYJAYBEBE that's a lot of projection my dude!!! You alright?? I don't care what you're into!! You could be into goats for all I care!! I just stated what I was into
The damage that will transpire from this will galvanise the already violent tendencies of our men. Please stop drawing false parallels between how YOUR women treat you - and these men. The way they disrespect us goes beyond mere rejection
@Michelle Lmao. Didn't dispute that. Simply said that their "talking down" to Asian men isn't on the SAME scale of vitriol, SADISTIC violence and degeneracy that BW receive from their men. Doesn't even compare...
Having a preference is fine, but they straight up threw a stone at a whole group of women and tried to hide their hand. Leave it to Fresh to make things worse 😂😂
Fools be sleeping on darkskin. Its because they're brainwashed. And they live with being shamed about themselves because they have no knowledge. If you look at the facts darkskin women are actually the MOST beautiful in the world.. I remember being in the locker room and it was like 10 guys talking about how they be lusting for darkskin girls.
Im black and feel the other way. When it comes to dating, you should be as discriminatory as you please. Aslong as you don't bash that specific race theres no issue. Sure theres beautiful black girls, but I'm just not attracted to black woman in general.
@Tait Carrillo, the skinny one doesn't prefer women. His "preference" is WM. He doesn't even date BM and he's blk. I agree there is something weird about him.
@@EasilyCringed Football?! There are photos all over the internet of him and 2 other men in bed. Others with him getting kissed, and embracing another man, etc. Lol football.
As an African girl born and raised in Africa it baffles me at how black men on that side of the world don’t like black women. Never did I grow up hearing such negative things said to black woman. Only when I started watching content from America did I hear such terrible things said about black women.
As an African too, I ain't never seen a Black man perceiving or saying directly to my face that opinion on darksin Black women, even in a joking way. How can you talk down on the most populated race of women of our continent lol. I think that type of shit is just mostly engrained on outside Africa Black men
@@TheTokkie Race and culture. I am actually surprised by some of the comments I see and hear. What's even more alarming is they are racially and culturally obsessed, but know little to nothing about it. They don't know the difference between race, culture or ethnicity. It's pretty interesting.
As a black woman my new years resolution is to ignore racist and self hating black men. Who really cares what these guys think tbh I don't want to date them either💁🏽
@@threzzy_ because they are labeling ALL dark skinned black women as ghetto, ratchet, annoying, ignorant, masculine. Those hateful, prejudiced stereotypes is what they are basing their preferences on. They have a skin deep thought process
Fresh in the studio with brown and mixed girls: "It's just a preference" Fresh in the studio surrounded by white women: "Black girls are annoying and rachet"
If you look at the dating demographic of USA, lBl lLl lAl lCl lKl women and Asian men are the least desirable. The statistics don't lie. Americans are obsessed with race and will turn everything into a racial battle when it's really just about a dating preference based on an opinion about a race. There's some truth to the stereotype of lBl lLl lAl lCl lKl women as ratchet, loud, uncultured and lacking discipline. Even if the generalization is wrong, why can't they have their opinions?
@@Waterbug1591 Dude how do you have incorrect prejudice views about groups of people then cry when people talk about it? How do you make racial comments then whine about people "pulling the race card". You want to be loud and racist but youll question why you cant just hold an opinion.
As a black man i can say I’ve had the same thoughts as these goobers when i was younger. Growing up on the south side of Atlanta and not being very athletic or in to the typical high school meta, i was classified as a weirdo cause i liked anime and video games ect. Most of my interactions with black women were negative cause they thought i wasn’t “cool” so i ended up being around other ethnicities and they were accepting of who i was. That lead me not to liking black women for a while until i grew up and understood myself more of why i had that view.
I got the same treatment from BM I was too dark and spoke too "white." BM didn't want anything to do with me period. I never used that an excuse like many BM do to degrade BM.
@@aliciawilliams8817 If a black man isn't into black women. then black women don't lose anything because? you obviously are racist against them. If you liked black men then you would be losing something
Fresh : “I don’t like black girls cause they’re ratchet & ghetto* then proceeds to date certain white & Hispanic women with those same attributes 😂 can’t make this stuff up
I'm a Bajan. He don't speak for us. Ppl that knew him when he was in barbados said he was weird af. So I'm not surprised. Nonetheless Aba and preach stay fit and keep it fresh on ya vlogs. 👊🏾
Yeah, his classmates constantly email us and say he is lying about getting women in Barbados. All those lies fresh told about being with a 1000 women in Barbados whilst hanging around beaches is just a fabrication for his image.
@@AbaNPreach I love the way he emphasizes the "no cap" before he lies his ass off 😂😂😂😂😂. I bet he thinks that if he repeats the phrase enough times, he'll start believing it himself
As an outsider of the situation, I think some of these guys use their distaste for black women as a status thing to separate themselves from their own race in other people’s perspectives. I think it comes from a feeling of shame towards their origins and it is highly influenced by the culture they’ve grown up in, much more so than their own individual thoughts. It is a cheap shot aimed to make themselves an “exception” of the negative stereotypes they’ve grown up hearing about and attributed to their own race through exposure.
As a black woman I am not offended,I'm relieved. Given how I perceive and conduct myself I would feel uneasy attracting someone like Fresh. Internalised racism,self hatred,insecurity and emotional illiteracy are not traits I find attractive,they are however traits his type values. No one bleeds money like an insecure man trying to buy the love of a woman he knows is only attracted to his money.
Same. I’m black, but when black men say they don’t like black women, I hit the Kanye shrug 🤷🏽♀️. I don’t really care. I can’t imagine even being friends with dudes like that.
All they literally had to say was “we typically don’t date black women,” but they proceeded to say “if you want to date a bunch of shaniqua’s…” etc. Like, you can state your preference without disrespecting and entire group of people. There’s no way that they didn’t recognize how fucked up they sounded.
They don't care. Those two clowns live a superficial, pretentious lifestyle and lack the capacity to understand what's wrong with their mentality. It goes beyond the Miami scene, these two guys are broken
my black friends call those type of men bounties you know black on the outside white on the inside. if they could have a choice of turning white tomorrow they would. the self hate is real.
This is how it feels like to me. A guy does not like me. Okay no problem. He moves on and dates someone else. No issue. THEN I start dating on my own and each time I'm dating, the same guy who told me he didn't like me is messing up my chances of being in a relationship EACH TIME I START ONE.
As a college educated, dark-skinned black woman I am very happy that these “men” are not checking for women like me. I’m 41, but I have nieces, also dark skinned and college educated that I wouldn’t want anywhere near these “men”.
@UCpWC7aZ1RS0Z3okCB9Jv08Q 99.9%? Where is your source? Did you just assume this? Why did you even feel the need to state that a whole demographic of women are sensitive just because this woman didn't want her nieces around the type of men that would hurt them? Tbh, I think it's just you exposing yourself. 99.9%? Just isn't plausible, and frankly unrealistic.
OMG I just have to admit I TOTALLY love you two! So hilarious...sounds in your logic...good guys. I thought you were firmly in the Manoshere because they often shout you guys out...so glad I listened more.
I'm Asian from the Southeast Asia region and the lBl lLl lAl lCl lKl immigrants & foreigners here behave exactly like Fresh described. Not gonna lie, lBl lLl lAl lCl lKl women are generally more masculine, ratchet, uncultured and lack discipline. Those lBl lLl lAl lCl lKl girls F&F kicked out constantly speak for themselves. If you look at the dating demographic of USA, lBl lLl lAl lCl lKl women and Asian men are the least desirable. The statistics don't lie.
Man, I recently came to the realization that I've been in denial about my father's racism. My mom was so blatant I couldn't deny it. It pains me to think that somebody I care about who I consider to be intelligent (was) racist. I see racism as a form of ignorance, something that intelligent people are unable to be, though perhaps I have some very deep-seated denial here. I also see racism as an inability to be sympathetic, which I also categorize as "lacking". Perceptive people are able to separate stereotypes from individuals.
Thank you for acknowledging this. As a black person who grew up in the burbs, it was horrific to see the amount of racism among whites. What was even more sick is that racism among whites was not shunned but condoned. I encountered so many whites married to a racist spouse but didn't see how flawed that was. A lot of them were also Christians, that's part of the reason I questioned marriage and Christianity.
Don't acknowledge this or buy into the encouragement given to you. The self hatred mindset your being encouraged to is exactly why certain groups are collectively unable to achieve, the mindset takes over send holds the whole community down, don't be the weak link that let's it into yours. Talk to your father, you may find that his real-life experiences inform what your perceiving as a bias
Here’s my thing… where are they finding these woman who are willing to date them with this mentality?? How can you possibly be willing to date someone who $h*** on their own race??? If you speak like this of woman who look like your mother, sister or cousins I can only imagine wtf you will say about me!! I have ran into dudes that are exactly like this and I’ve had to excuse myself and walk away. The second they start with the “ I love Latino woman” “ I can’t mess with Black, White or whatever race” I immediately leave. You can compliment me without having to put your race or any other race for that matter down!! But especially their own race!! That mentality is disgusting however there is more to say about the woman who entertain this mess than the raggedy men who display this behavior.
I'm a white guy who grew up in a black neighborhood and then moved to a small town with not a single black person. When they asked me what black people were like, I always had the same answer. Look around this school and community. You see how every white person has their differences? Black people are no different than what you see here.
I think the part that y'all as creators also didn't touch on here is that this is the kind of thing that goes viral. It just is what it is. These "manosphere" content creators realize they can get people to share their content if you can piss them off enough which inevitably either gets them views or broadens their audience. It's in their best interest to be as outlandish and polarizing as possible because it's free PR.
Most of these preferences are just internalized racism and self hatred. That's why it turns into negative statements, generalizations and insults for the non-preferred...who most often come from the same race or cultural background.
FnF live in Miami and come across materialistic, superficial, opportunistic women DAILY. So it’s only fair to say their perception of Black Women (and real women in general) is CLEARLY WARPED. They think Black Women are “annoying and ratchet,” yet Fresh is a sugar daddy to a caucasian gold-digger.. but I guess she’s a polite, respectful, submissive gold-digger which makes the difference.🤷🏾♀️ What I learned today is… nothing.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm Asian from the Southeast Asia region and the lBl lLl lAl lCl lKl immigrants & foreigners here behave exactly like Fresh described. Not gonna lie, lBl lLl lAl lCl lKl women are generally more masculine, ratchet, uncultured and lack discipline. Those lBl lLl lAl lCl lKl girls F&F kicked out constantly speak for themselves. If you look at the dating demographic of USA, lBl lLl lAl lCl lKl women and Asian men are the least desirable. The statistics don't lie.
@ria rel Yes, Ruslan is Christian and what does that have to do with him watching or commenting on this video? I'm a Christian and I follow Ruslan and Aba and Preach. Stop putting Christian people in a box. God bless your heart 😉
It's always so wild to me when I see other black men stereotype black women like their aren't a bunch of stereotypes about us being thugs, lazy, deadbeat dads, overly sexual, and overly aggressive. Then they told that girl that she was one of the good ones who didn't fit the stereotype. I know if a white person told them that they would feel some type of way.
This is what I've been saying for a long time. If you just want a light skin because you hate your own skin just say that don't blame it on stereotypes because others can do that same to you with your dark skin tone too.
These type of black don't realise that they exactly the same as racist white people. Also, if ALL the black woman they know are ratchet, ghetto and all they other stereotypes all that tells me is that is their community, those are there peers/counterparts so they are likely the same.
Honestly how would anybody feel if you were constantly told and constantly heard people don’t like you bc of your skin color? That you are the least desirable, at the bottom of the dating pool . Everything about you is bad . Things you have zero control over . That your not a woman, you are more like a man and no matter what you do is wrong and you go through life everyone making fun of you saying hurtful things . People tell you your hair is nappy and ugly so you wear wigs and weaves that look the complete opposite of your real hair , then they say they hate your wigs and weaves bc it’s not your real hair . You just want to feel like every other woman. You want to feel like a woman. Nothing you do is good just bc of your skin color . BM things have changed for them better than BW . They have dated other races as soon as it was allowed but BW have always loved BM and took up for them ect . If somebody said BM look like monkeys 🐒 people would get so angry and offended it would be racism. But you guys don’t understand that for tge most part nothing has changed for BW there are hundreds mabe thousands if not for sure thousands of comments trashing everything about them every day . Every day . How would anybody feel???? They just want to be loved and appreciated like every other group of women are . I don’t think that’s too much to ask . Also most BM constantly tak down to BW especially darker skin tones. They hate everything about them . Now BW are starting to date out and all of a sudden they’re the reason the B race will go extinct. Not all the years the men were dating out , no, only the recent years where the women have started. Why were they not so offended by the men dating out ??? They hate everything about BWit comes to a point where it seems like they really hate BW 🙁 they clown them and say the worst things the most disrespectful things a person could say and nobody cares these women are hurt . Everybody can date who they want to it’s 2022 what I am saying I understand why they are upset and angry. They are never told they’re beautiful just bc of their skin tone, hair, and phenotype. Things they cannot change and when they do they’re made fun of about that.
I just want to add also , BW are “masculine “ bc they have to be. Look at their environment ( some) they don’t have a choice if they live in a dangerous neighborhood. When you ask yourself why BW are like that , look at yourselves first . They can’t be “feminine “ and soft and live in the projects . They’re around “thugged” out people, they are born into this a lot of times . It’s excusable for men to be this way , they are a “a product of their environment “ but nobody thinks women are ???? When people stereotype BW nobody bats an eye , they talk about it day and night but if as much was said about BM it would be considered racist. They are two sides of the same coin 🪙 I honestly do and have always thought a BM and BW in love is the most powerful love their is , they have gone through so much as a people nobody can break that live and just be there for each other . I feel sadness when BM talk bad about BW bc a century ago that is the only thing you had , that’s the only time you had real love in this world 🌎 that is who you went to for understanding and love ❤️ this is not a message to feel any way against people who are dating a different race , I am creole, I’m all races myself, just more of an understanding and questions I have for what I see happening every day 🌸 stay blessed everyone
I’m Irish and 3 out of the last 5 girls I dated were black. They weren’t “ghetto” at all. They were sexy, sweet, funny, and feminine. But if you only talk to the type who get twisted up at the club, well then I’d say your impression is gonna be way off.
@@johnnyboy9001 I mean sometimes shit just doesn’t work out? Just cuz he didn’t marry and have kids with all of em didn’t mean he didn’t find positive attributes with in them.
Yo Aba & Preach, stating that I don't eat chocolate doesn't make me a foodcist, I just don't like to eat chocolate, I don't hate Black people because my dating preference doesn't align with wanting to date Black people. If I only date Asian girls, am I being racist for not dating White or Hispanic girls? My dating preferences can form around the opinions I have about other races, why not? AP I agree with you guys 90% of the time but you missed big one on this...That's disappointing.
On behalf of black women, we couldn't be happier that they aren't interested in us. Saves time from having to deal with their degenerate mindset. Thank you FnF, we appreciate your willingness to reveal your warped pathology and spare us all. ✊🏾
As a black man I don’t think it a requirement to be sexually attracted to black women. Personally growing up the white girls loved the boy. black girls were always kinda mean and distant. Different races women act differently and sometimes you just don’t mesh.
@@klickingkayasmr7585 That's why Myron didn't even try to explain it hahaha. And offcourse Fresh is hurt... When he had nothing black women didn't even see him(atleast that is what I think).
As a Latin Male I have dated black women in my past. It was not a preference. I just loved them for who they were and respected them just like how I have dated other latinas, white women, etc. If you go looking for the good and the negatives in women then that's all you're gonna see. You cannot blame them for your faults. I never look at their color or where they were raise. If they treat me right and respect me then I'll reciprocate. Edit: Wow! I did not expect this many people give like to my comment. Thank you for the likes and responses.
I'm brazilian, and the difference between your words and the words of the majority of the african american guys here is depressing. This is how a real man who isn't drowning in self hate,speaks.
@@jackelinealves8685 thank you brother. I never look at someone's race or where they are raise from cause they doesn't make them who they are. If you give you will receive it back. I was brought up in a broken home and in the ghetto but it didn't make me. I love anyone beside their race as long as they respect me as a person.
I think this is being talked about is because black girls have decided to burn the cape for black men. I am one of those black girls who doesn't even consider black men as a dating options because of all the anti-black women sentiments on the internet. It's just safer for me to avoid them. White Supremacy isn't the biggest threat to black women, it's males like Fresh and Fit. I don't live next to white supremacists and black men have made it clear how they feel about us, therefore I won't entertain them. They want white women, white women can have them. I am happy for both parties.
Aba said that ish.. " Masquerade their negative views of a group as a preference." That was it. You just said what I've been trying to properly verbalize for years. Thank you sir.
Myron when he was talking about the BLCK app, he called black women “darkies”… if that ain’t racist, then I don’t have anything else to say. And what’s crazy about that is that they bring black women onto their platform in order to get a reaction from them to justify their “preference” smh. It’s sooo weird to me
fresh and fit are the guys who think everyone who criticize them are stupid..which in itself proves that they like to live in their own bubble, instead of learning things from their surroundings
My family and friends have always said I am someone who never cared about race when it comes to dating. Because of that I have dated people of different backgrounds and believe me, it’s really about character, compatibility and personality at the end of the day. Good people and assholes exist in every group of people.
There’s a BIG AS$ difference between: “I don’t like ratchet girls” And “I don’t like black girls because y’all are ratchet and annoying af” One is a preference based on a character trait and the other is a prejudiced assumption predicated from a toxic environment. Plain and simple. As long as the girl your dating isn’t “ratchet”, it’s hard to imagine why her skin color would be an issue. But that’s just me.
A lot of these dudes been around nothing but ghetto black women and ghetto people in general and when they got around women who weren’t ghetto they were probably not the same race
why can't both things be true? for example if someone has dated multiple black women and had the same experience with a majority of them. Then i think its fair to say this person might just avoid black women altogether in hopes of having a better chance at a successful relationship. becuase of their past bad experience? also why is it ok when black women generalize black men and say things like "all black men are deadbeats" based on thier past experience?
Those are their opinions, they can form their dating preferences based on the opinions they have about that whole group of people. The black chick asked for the reasons, they gave her their opinions, what's wrong with that?
@@godemperorletoatreidesii6971 Wait, so not wanting to date shorter men makes you a shortist now? Or not wanting to date fat people makes you fatphobic? Not wanting to date a transwoman makes you transphobic?
@@realty634 Yeah Cynthia G is actually insane bro lmao , I honestly listen to it just to remind myself that people who think like that actually exist. 😂
Something to add as I was reminded by two Bajan guys when they came to Trinidad and Tobago for carnival and was shocked that my mom wasn't my complexion. In Barbados not much mixing of races happens and most times in societies such as that upward mobility can only happen if you marry up; in this case white. So understand his view is much more deeply rooted than his listing of preferences; its his conditioning. Those same Bajan guys thought I was the outside child (conceived outside of the union/relationship of both my parents) because my sister is much lighter than me. When that saw my whole family, it then ring the bell that genetics can be expressed differently lol. But yea they made it very clear that its rare to see and it very consistent with Fits pov on black women.
As a black woman it’s already hard dealing with how society portrays us but then to see men of color talk so badly about black woman is truly heart breaking like I have a baby brother that listens to them. Like I know we not prefect but I’ve been surrounded by so many successful, kind hearted black women and to just throw stereotypes at our entire group it just 100% disrespectful and makes other races think they can do the same and see us the same
Honey it’s not society...it rap and hip hop. These images are generated by🇮🇱producers and executives of record labels. So are the images of black men. Those 🇮🇱 make other races think we the enemy bc of our skin
It really is. I was born in 1980, grew up being ostracized by the black community for not being black enough. Speaking well, and being an individual is shunned. My first loves were black men but they teased me mercilessly because i wasn't "black enough". So I started dating white men. They weren't judgmental but unfortunately their families were. Didnt matter that I was kind, educated, respectful, I was still black and what will people think?!?!?!? So these men wouldn't stand up for me and single I am. Then I would date some other men and they would be disappointed because again I wasn't "black enough". Seems like men in NY (this is where i live) only want the stereotype hood chick that brings nothing but drama and chaos. Then these SAME men say AWALT, black women suck, blah blah but they passed over the good black woman that just wanted to be happy and live life. I'm single and happy. Do I wish i had a companion, sure, but its not worth the bs i have to deal with with men.
There Are sophisticated, ghetto, beautiful, ugly, annoying women from every racial and cultural background. Whenever anyone tries to pin behavior on one group, its the first sign they are not too intelligent. I can also understand something not being your preference, especially when it is not of your culture or background. But to be dark-skinned and at the same time find dark-skin unattractive is a different kind of hate. You should not be allowed to have a platform to influence anyone on such backwards thinking.
^This. I don't understand how any man could eliminate an entire race of women from being attractive. I look at butts, brains and boobs. Skin color is not a factor in that decision at all. I only disagree with the not having a platform thing. Everyone should be allowed to have a platform. No matter what they think.
Yes, but there are certainly tendencies that certain cultures and localities impose on the mindsets of people. These should not be disregarded. Granted, each individual should be judged on their own merits, but if a person comes from a tribe of cannibals, it is a good idea to be cautious to make sure she isn't just playing nice to get you in a vulnerable position so she can kill you and eat your corpse. Of course, that is an extreme example, but you get the gist. In other words, a person's cultural background can give you an idea as to how they really think and/or behave. Sure, it is not 100%, but it never hurts to be cautious.
I was dating an asian girl… one night in bed she goes on this long rant about how ghetto Mexicans are and how she hates them for being loud, obnoxious, etc…. It dawned on me she had no clue I was Mexican. I told Her I was and she said “oh but you’re the exception, you’re not like the rest of em” Mind you, this relationship was after another girl i was seeing broke it off because she “couldn’t see us having a future” and admitted she wanted her kids to be half-white and she had trust issues with latin men because they are “all cheaters and liars” Its fine to have preferences, but then there is just straight up internalized racism that does real harm to people. EDIT: I don't mean to point out Asians in general or shit on women in general. These are specific examples and I shared it because it was relevant to the video. Gentleman, and ladies...if you come across this style of scenario, don't let someone project bullshit onto you and bring you down. Know your value, let shit people go and keep grinding.
@@TheTokkie for Americans it is considered only one race, but you are right, it's actually a Big mixtures of a lot of different types people. Brazil alone have the biggest number of Portuguese, Italians, Germanic, Japanese and Arab people,outside their on country. And the indigenous people from Bolivia are also slightly different from the ones in equator or Peru for example. And there was also colonies from other contrys too, like France and Holland, that also mixtured with the locals.
I think it is very easy to be duped into thinking the culture/ mannerisms IS the person. All of us have a little bit of "lazy " in us that don't want to bother understanding/ seeing beyond our "shells"... and that is fine, just less to experience of each individual (which is unfortunate...) I assumed as a teen that I did not want to date guys from my ancestral country because they were "uncool" but after over 27 years with the same guy from Japan, I am happily proven wrong🙃.
I dislike most types of internet drama, but THIS has me thoroughly entertained! You two don't need to do ANYTHING to tarnish their reps. They can do that themselves!
Literally are giving aba n preach free content 😂, then the little fans complain aba n preach are too focused on them but in reality, the social media is literally clowning you.
Toxic/Discriminatory preferences is everywhere these days. Some people date out of their culture while bashing their own. Some people will even let their partner bash their entire culture without saying nothing.
Not really. Reasonableness is not for you to decide about other peoples preferences. And all preferences are discriminatory. I agree you can state your preference in a rude way, but if that’s who you want to date it is what it is.
@@johnr8095 the problem is…if a girl says they don’t want to date an Asian man because of the stereotype that all Asian man have small penises. That’s being discriminatory against a whole sector of people based off a stereotype you don’t even know. Don’t act like that’s not an issue.
@@scro910 why is it an issue? There's plenty of other people who don't have those preferences. No need to pretend it's an issue. It's a bit entitled to demand people change their preferences for you. If I'm Asian and I find a girl who doesn't want to be with Asians, that's cool! I'll move on and find another one.
I don't get offended if someone doesn't want to date me for any reason. . When it comes to taste only you know what you like/want. I don't want others trying to make me feel bad for liking someone and vice versa.
The most insulting thing is when they say you are the exception, you aren’t like the others. I’m literally college educated, hold a director position and I’m well spoken. I don’t hangout in clubs, I’m not an Instagram model and I can guarantee a person like me will never be asked on that show because we don’t push their narrative. Also no one cares about your preference, but your preference shouldn’t involve downing a whole demographic of women. Let your preference be your preference and keep it pushing
@@parveltstone8214 I don’t believe in sitting in rooms where I’m not wanted lol A major key in being feminine is to not put yourself in positions to be masculine. That isn’t a safe environment for feminine women
This comment is 100% facts but fresh and fit also do and say a lot of things that are factual and true that hold up to all men, that being said this afterhours show with all the girls is a waste of time because they really drop gems in their other shows.
@@realty634 stfu cause there are so many people that watch Cynthia G and don’t agree with everything that comes out her mouth, now at times she hit it on the nail, but when she started talking about abort black men or something like that she lost me.
You would think other wise so many sistas get mad as soon as they see us bm dating out now it’s y’all don’t like bw yall hate bw your mother black and all this other bs
@@redsavage2141 the majority of us don't care. Ofc there could be a minority that might not like it but sincerely most of us just want to left alone and not dissed for existing.
@@redsavage2141 Trust and believe we do not care, just stop bashing. Black men are not a prize at all, their the most abusive, unintelligent and unemployed group of men in America… Not to mention you all swirling did nothing but increase the incidents of single mothers for nonblack women. Look it up 🤣🤣
I wish people talked about colorism more. It's a problem that needs to be addressed. I hate this light skin is better than dark skin war. This needs to end permanently. 3:50- That's the most backhanded compliment I've ever heard. That's the equivalent of,"You're pretty for a black girl." If someone said that to me, in my head I'm doing this,"🖕," at you. 2:59- Fraud and Fluke, get a dictionary and look up the words preference and prejudice. You insulting dark skin black women, just because you hate yourselves IS NOT A PREFERENCE. It's a colorist discriminatory offensive and insulting prejudice and I hate you clowns more now. 4:23- Then you wonder why so many dark skin black women are so insecure with themselves and actually hate us light skinned black women for the colorist prejudice that's been placed on them by bullies who are more insecure they are, so they clown dark skin women so they can share their misery. Bullies are very selfish like that. 4:04- It reminds of that scene in Color Purple when Celie is reading Nettie's letters, one where she says there's a tribe called Olinka that don't believe in educating girls and Tashi says,"They're just like white people." That's what Fraud and Fluke are being racist like that. That's not a preference insulting all dark skinned women in a prejudicial way.
If u hate urself Bcuz of ur color that’s a problem with you, does society make u feel less than or inferior Bcuz ur black? No. Do we encourage racism and colorism against blacks? No. If somehow we as a society of today encouraged this type of behavior to be given to blacks I would 100% agree with u, but today we aren’t wat we were 60 years ago. Black ppl aren’t made to feel their inferior or not pretty Bcuz they’re black. That’s a you problem
It is their inadequacy, low self esteem, self hatred and internalized anti-blackness that make them the way they are, speak they way they do and also hate on black women. Period.
Whenever I hear comments like that, I think of my mother, and it pains me because she went through so much in her life. Leaving the Caribbean for America at age three, being poor, abuse from certain family members and even through all of that, she still persevered and is now buying land in the Caribbean to build a house, buying another house in New Jersey, on top of the one we currently live in, which is a 1900 sqft house in Brooklyn, on top of a 6 figure salary. So to hear fresh of all people call black women rachet shaniquas, night riders and darkies, is just beyond infuriating. Edit: Just to add, my mom isn’t a single mom, she’s happily married to my dad for what will be their 20th anniversary this year. It just pisses me off to fresh speak so badly of black women due to a type of woman that lingers in Miami. Not every black woman is like that. Edit: please don’t go in the replies. A war has started and I don’t know how to handle it
To add that, it's common in the manosphere to bash and shame single moms. These guys are know to pump n dump but why does the shame of being a single parent always has to be labeled on women??
@@tonymistreacts4158 My guess is because raising a kid takes 2 people and one parent is gonna do half the job (at their very best) if the other parent is gone.
it's a blessing being a black woman in these times. The blackness is protection from black men like fit and fresh. Let them destroy the lives of their preferences and make them baby mommas
@@noonecares808 you intentionally misquoted what she said to fit your narrative 🤡 but that’s all the attention you get from me. Try begging your parents for some lol
They need to state clearly the Stereotypes or general personality traits that they dislike and for what reasons. When u start saying stupid ignorant shit like, "we dont dabble in the dark" or "we dont date black women" ur being god damm racist. BECAUSE COLOR DOES NOT DETERMINE - Character traits, personalities, and ethics.
There is a difference between preference of characteristics of an individual irrespective of their race and a clear bias/discrimination towards a particular group of people(unfortunately here towards their own people with the same roots). Love your videos Aba & Preach. Wish you well from India 🇮🇳
The preference thing really irritates me because a woman saying “I like tall men” is soooo different than a man saying “I don’t like black women because they’re annoying, ghetto, masculine, etc”.
But preference should never be justified. If u hate a certain race and prefer not to date that race, that’s 100% ur preference. I’m not saying it’s ok to hate any race but I couldn’t care less if u did if u don’t fit into ur preference I just go somewhere where I am appreciated
I can't respect a black man that so blatantly throws his own kind out like that even if it's dating preference. That's got to be a red flag when it comes to character flaws
I've always heard that I was ugly because I didn't have light skin. As I grew older, the stereotypes in this video were applied to me immediately. Some people see your skin and instantly place you into one of their preconceived categories. Those people can kick rocks.
Hey, I want you to understand that whoever came up with these bullsh*t stereotypes never met a black person in their lives. You’re beautiful and if nobody can see that, then they should go fuck themselves. The next time somebody calls you ugly, tell the the following words “Hey, I want you to know that just because I may not fit the standard doesn’t mean I’m ugly. I’m beautiful the way I was created and if you don’t have anything nice to say to me, then don’t say anything at all.” I know it will be hard, but trust me, they won’t ever bother you again after that.
You lads are the best. I'm Australian so I got no dog in the fight but watching you one or both of you bashing 7 shades out of them would be awesome. Keep it real not like fake and fresh
