Dave On Jay Leno Vs. Conan O'Brien | Letterman 

It really is perfect!

I laugh to tears almost seeing that again. I think there was another show where Dave had another couple hilarious names inserted for Jimmy and another host.. I'll have to look at the long-form version of this on Don Giller's channel. Actually I think the longer it is, the funnier it is.

In another clip not shown here he refers to him as “Denny Clausen”

@@mrterp04 Yeah! Ha ha! That rings a bell.

Dave had an early read on Fallon. He was absolutely right about him.

one of the thousand, b

That is hilarious!

Cool

😂😂😂

I sure hope that you didn't blame Conan...

Parabéns por patrocinar o Vitória, chapeleiro do Fatal Model!

Nóis que voa, irmão @@fernandoguita

You know I woke up today and wanted to start blaming Conan but then I saw this comment, thanks for the reality check.

"Nobody is blaming Conan" 😂

I BLAME CONAN

It was the golden age of broadcasting

So was Conan. I'd say it all worked out quite well for him. Let's be real...people who find Leno funny aren't the kind of people you invite to a party, so Conan wasn't going to work out as well as Leno. They HAD to give him time to bring his younger crowd over and drop off the boomers. Instead, NBC acted like an EPL owner.

​@@citisoccerit isnt about boomers either, it is about having more conservative humour, not all boomers are outdated or traditionlists that cannot find joys in newer or different comedy

This is hilarious, but nothing Dave said about the drama of Late Night has ever been true... Dave never was going to get the Tonight Show. Leno was the main guest host on Carson, and taking the Late Show host (Dave) to replace him was never even an option. Back then the Late Show and Tonight Show were two entirely different animals. If you watched Carson at the time, no one even considered Letterman until he made it an issue. Now with Conan, Dave is just projecting (albeit hilariously) his past feud and misrepresenting everything again. Leno just liked to work, and NBC executives like people who like to work. So they penciled him in whenever they were lagging. In reality the executives were the dopes and Conan should've just stayed on the Tonight show, at least for a few more years. It would've worked out, I'm guessing. But in the end everything still worked out as Leno/NBC had the #1 show for years, and Conan ended up being funnier on TBS than he was on network TV. Not to mention NBC didn't deserve Conan, anyway.

​@@citisoccer Trashing Leno is so tacky. Great stand ups to this day recognize how great Leno was. Watch Dave Chappelle, Norm MacDonald, Bill Maher, or others talk about Leno. They consider him among the best standups of all-time. I like Conan better, but just because CBS and Conan ran gags on Leno for years doesn't mean they were serious. There is a reason Leno's show was #1. But yeah, you're probably right about the generational thing. Conan had trouble getting an older audience (and also had trouble with getting a Black audience which is never discussed).

I don't know. It's just fun.

Letterman's bitterness is legendary.

@@gallery7596 and Leno's backstabbery even more so

@@gallery7596that’s not bitterness. That’s the giddy delight that only the sweetest kind of petty can bring. I loved every single minute.

@@gaylefranklin Heh, well, I wouldn't call it a virtue on his part, but I give a thumbs up to your description of it as being "the sweetest kind of petty."

Please, don’t blame Conan!

@@ottergoose *echoing Dave* "Don't blame Conan." - Paul 🤣

I hope you are not planning on blaming Conan, are ya?

Well in the end Conan is bigger than ever and Leno is forgotten. No one even watches old Leno clips. Conan won everyone’s hearts!

@@KJ-je9pm I guess he'll just go do play spend more time in Vegas.

You mean Lonnie Donegan

I liked Fallon on SNL, but I can't stomach him on the Tonight Show, Poor Johnny and Ed

Lol, you are so right.

And poor Doc too who is still alive by the way

@@rhyancoleman646296 years old Doc is still alive 🤦‍♂️

⁠*Leno

See! Don’t pretend you don’t remember him. Those new paper headlines have aged as well as actual printed newspapers…. Oh dear.

YESSS

TEAM COCO

A much better stand up 😅

"Im telling jokes and making fun of Jay Leno, over and over and over, relentlessly, mercilessly, simply for one reason, and that is...I'm really enjoying it 😄"

I don't know. It's just fun.

You can sure see how Dave inspired Norm McDonald’s style.

@@annstevens6223 Can you sell me a hotdog?

"You know Jay's watching"

Lol thought the same thing

Not smart insulting a comedian with a tv show...

I live in Portland now so seeing KOIN as the "Affiliate of the Night" was fascinating to say the least (& something I forgot Dave did). Thankfully no 1 on the current nightly lineup showed up in this clip.

Yes, it seemed in 2004 like Dave got that Conan taking over the show was not Jay's choice. So these eventual rants are kind of a contradiction. If Dave understood this was a forced retirement, why should Jay have to think about Conan first if *NBC* makes a new offer? That's just a double standard.

@@gallery7596 speaking of double standards. I know this brave internet Cop who protects people from "bullies who use ad Hominem attacks", by using ad Hominem attacks himself such as labelling an entire community as "a cult".

@@ishaangovardhan7430 Another exaggeration on your part. I have made it clear to you before that it's only a certain element within Team CoCo that behave with cult-like adoration for Conan. Not the entire community. If you go on saying otherwise then you're just lying.

PAUL: Well....don't blame him.

You're saying this is vintage Jay.

This all took place 14 years ago, in January 2010.

In 2003 and 2004, Conan was getting other offers, especially from Fox. He went back to NBC and told them he would leave NBC for Fox unless they guaranteed him "The Tonight Show." NBC told Jay Leno they would renew him for five more years, but after that, Conan would get 11:35. Jay and Conan both accepted this. Jay actually talked to ABC about coming on before Jimmy Kimmel and pushing his show back. It didn't pan out. So, NBC told Jay he could have 10:00. That way, they wouldn't lose anyone. It was a loophole Conan's team didn't account for.

I never understood why Dave thought it was okay to use Mavis Leno's name to mock her husband. What had she done to deserve that?

While I agree it is a shame he partially ruined his image with all those sexual relations with his women staff. At the very least to some limited extent but yeh.

Yeah it's true, Letterman did the right thing by fellow comedians at least, Dave was a standup guy. The philandering not so good but at least he admitted it.

And the irony is Norm actually saw Jay's side in that debate, too. He felt Jay was getting blamed for decisions that *NBC" was making.

We gotta blame him for something

What if I told you that this person who has replied to you (@Gallery) is actually a notorious tr011? Just search "Leno vs Conan" and open up the first 5 videos that come up on RU-vid. I will bet my salary that you'll find @Gallery's anti-Conan comments under ALL of those videos. This person has no life to live, so they spend all their time hating on conan online. I was able to trace @Gallery's comment history back to 9 years. He has been doing this for 9 years. THe same old talking points that defend Leno and demonize conan, the same old lies. Relentless. I've noticed this sick person's comments on like 12 videos so far. 9 years of this, dude. 9 years! Just thought you should know what he is....

Agreed. Yeah, Dave was only an active competitor of "The Tonight Show" who- when Conan took over- quickly became the #1 host in late night. I'm sure that had nothing at all to do with why he didn't want Jay coming back. (chuckle)

I remember Dave had Phil on one night and he said *"can you believe what Jay did?!"* to which Phil replied "he got screwed, too." Dave goes "yeah, well..." Phil looked at him and said "I had no idea you had such pent up anger towards him." I don't think Dave expected to be analyzed right there on his show but it was fun to watch.

Yes, and Johnny went to 65, so how could Jay (still consistently #1) not be disappointed that he's being retired while still in his 50's. Just a terrible plan from the start.

Except Jay's demo couldn't stay up late and Conan was the star the younger people wanted to see.

@@evekurocieru But they also found that during his time as host, the 34-49 year old demo was tuning out after the half way point in Conan's "Tonight Show." They had to get up for work for the next day, and viewers just didn't seem as interested in staying up until 12:35am the way they once did. It wasn't a good sign to *NBC.*

Probably in part why he never had her on the show.

Nope he was the only victor actually.

Don't blame Lonnie.

@@penguin44ca Yeah, that Lonnie guy's taken enough abuse.

Classic bit.

I thought it was a steam tractor…

He always makes sure to bring a photographer.

That’s right Dave’s number 1.. (Second to but also tied with Conan)

Fallon is for the NBC execs.

I'd say Conan is for Gen Xers, millennials were still little kids when Conan started out. Dave and Leno were both of the same era.

​@@Highlander77 Conan was very popular with us millennials.

Ferguson was for everyone

​@@radfatdaddy4169clearly not, lol. His whole appeal was that he was niche. He was too irreverent to "appeal to everybody". I wouldn't be his fan if his show was "for everybody". You made him sound generic and basic

how about a 9-years long session of blaming conan? There's a tr011 in this comment section called @Gallery who has spent the last 9 years of his life inside various youtube comment sections, defending Leno and attacking Conan. I was able to trace his comment history back to 9 years, across more than a dozen Conan vs Leno videos like this one. Check it out yourself: He's just written the latest comment on this video lol! It must be his 17,000th comment ever about conan and leno

Not what we have today

Nonsense. Conan's show was just as great.

Nothing wrong with Colbert.