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David Baddiel: 'Kanye had consequences for hate speech' 

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@simontmn
@simontmn Год назад
America and Britain are very different countries, and we Brits often pay the USA too much attention, as if it was 'us'.
@SubjectiveFunny
@SubjectiveFunny Год назад
We are the same culture, at least as close as it gets.
@simontmn
@simontmn Год назад
@@SubjectiveFunny Australia & New Zealand are much more similar to the UK. Most Brits have no idea how different Americans are (I was married to one for 19 years).
@Mark-Haddow
@Mark-Haddow Год назад
That's because Britain isn't a country. Come up to Scotland and ask any Scot which country they come from. Or, you could offer an emoji for the flag for this "Britain" country.
@simontmn
@simontmn Год назад
@@Mark-Haddow upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ae/Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg/383px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png
@tonupharry
@tonupharry Год назад
No
@larrysellers7891
@larrysellers7891 Год назад
I’ve seen David have a pop at “Pikeys” as he called them, blackface and put a pineapple on his head to depict a man of Caribbean heritage. I’m pretty sure Sarah Silverman, who he interviews, got fired for blackfacing also. He wasn’t a child when he did these things. He was a Cambridge educated man in his mid thirties. . . . I’ll get my racial theory from people who know what they are talking about thank you.
@joananthony6323
@joananthony6323 Год назад
Well said He is making a living from this but was silent when there was nothing to be gained and during that time he used racism to make a living from
@lukerothwell2802
@lukerothwell2802 Год назад
I don't believe for a second that you give a toss about the groups you claim offense on behalf of, you are just using it as excuse to deflect from what David is saying.
@larrysellers7891
@larrysellers7891 Год назад
@@lukerothwell2802 I’d say your belief is as ill thought out as it is strongly expressed.
@docastrov9013
@docastrov9013 Год назад
Where Baddiel talks to rich and influential Jews to assert Jews aren't rich and influential.
@TesterAnimal1
@TesterAnimal1 Год назад
I’m sure talking to Simon who works stacking shelves at Tesco would have been just suuuper interesting for you.
@almondboyo2428
@almondboyo2428 Год назад
How many people do you think would listen to the message Baddiel is giving if it was delivered by someone from the 99% of Jews that aren't rich or influential?
@mrvivianoblivion-directoro6186
Blackface? Soooo ironic.
@derekstryjski6809
@derekstryjski6809 Год назад
Hey Baroness Lundin Links. Is your £300 + a day. Plus expenses in the un elected house of Lords, not enough for you?
@unusedsub3003
@unusedsub3003 Год назад
Does blacking-up and mocking a black footballer not count as bad then? Some of us know what you are Mr Baddiel. "Rules for thee and not me" springs to mind.
@jimmydavis7587
@jimmydavis7587 Год назад
he discusses this in his documentary and apologised directly for it
@unusedsub3003
@unusedsub3003 Год назад
@@jimmydavis7587 After 25 years. Never suffered a single consequence for it.
@rrowell4163
@rrowell4163 Год назад
@@jimmydavis7587 Sadly mainstream media would not have the guts to play Jason lee podcast where he like a surgeon dissects baddiels lame excuses Put simply Baddiel & skinner brought racial mockery and bullying from the football terraces onto prime time tv for laughs and did not give a toss It’s 2022 and Baddiel still is clueless about the day to day racism towards black that’s why he so comfortably wants to compare and contrast and that’s why behaved like the one too many racists in the 1990s and happily did blackface not in the 1960s or 70s but 1990s
@m0ckingB1rd42
@m0ckingB1rd42 Год назад
@@unusedsub3003 No one even talks about Whoopi Goldbergs Jewface. She’s not Jewish, has no Jewish heritage and appropriated that last name. She’s never had to apologize for her Jewface. You’re a hypocrite and you have a blatant double standard
@unusedsub3003
@unusedsub3003 Год назад
@@rrowell4163 well said
@TheRealDioBrando
@TheRealDioBrando Год назад
Didn't you become famous from wearing Blackface? To the point where the black man you were ridiculing had real life abuse because of it.
@acchaladka
@acchaladka Год назад
Where's the link to his programme and work, referred to several times here?
@1995yuda
@1995yuda Год назад
I'm sure you can find it on Amazon, no?
@docastrov9013
@docastrov9013 Год назад
It is on UK Channel 4 this Monday. If you use a VPN look at All4 their player afterwards.
@brendalandes1813
@brendalandes1813 Год назад
As a Welsh Israeli, Jewess. My dad who taught in a school in Cardiff, and when we stayed in Cardiff for the summer holidays the staff who loved him said ah a mean Jew, if he went abroad with my mum it was ah, a rich Jew! At university in Cardiff one student from a small Welsh village was amazed that I didn’t have a tail and horns.
@brendalandes1813
@brendalandes1813 Год назад
I love Israel with all its problems
@brendalandes1813
@brendalandes1813 Год назад
Hopefully our government will change in the next election.
@CanadianMonarchist
@CanadianMonarchist Год назад
It does seem that whatever Jews do people will say something nasty to them. 😢
@ashley-fk6dp
@ashley-fk6dp 8 месяцев назад
את באמת ישראלית ?
@FunWithDeeandDee
@FunWithDeeandDee Год назад
Fantasy Football League Torments Jason Lee ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BhHq4m_Bi5g.html via @RU-vid This is David Baddiel doing black face and mocking somebody else’s race. I think I’ll pass on watches TV show. Hypocrisy springs to mind
@joananthony6323
@joananthony6323 Год назад
Yes and before someone points out how long ago it was, he doubled down on it for most of that time when Lee complained about it and acted like he was being a cry baby and that it was only a joke (because racist bullying with humour is apparently ok)
@alexpurchas1538
@alexpurchas1538 Год назад
Thing guy moans about a hierarchy in racism yet has no idea he is doing the same thing maybe he's just talking without thinking or maybe that's just him. On the Kanye thing if you want to prove him wrong call his bluff on the contracts!
@childofchief2290
@childofchief2290 Год назад
Jason Lee
@yasminx16
@yasminx16 Год назад
Jason Lee #thatisall
@Sandals578
@Sandals578 Год назад
I don’t think this is about Jews. This is about public figures who’s gotten too full of themselves as to think they are above reproach. Freedom of speech is not just a right but a responsibility.
@Mark-Haddow
@Mark-Haddow Год назад
It's definitely about "jews" when they're the group being targeted.
@scripturesinyoureface
@scripturesinyoureface Год назад
jews made the masons ,learned the goymasons how to read because most don,t know letters and symbols. when you know them very very deep,you know you are in a prison..most don,t know nothing ,its in the dark.
@elih9700
@elih9700 Год назад
@@Mark-Haddow Genocide has the habit of making you that way.
@deankruse2891
@deankruse2891 Год назад
this, at its core, is very much about jews.
@1995yuda
@1995yuda Год назад
It is about Jewish people and Judaism, but you do raise an important point: we live in a modern day Hero Cult, and indeed people hold celebrities to different standarts, they are worshipped and they feel themseleves as Deities. Kanye literally calls himself "Yeezus", and I've seen a pro kanye video titled "Kanye's Economic Crucifixion".... it literally COULDN'T be anymore obvious than that. Ironically, the original Hebrew Bible teaches that human deification is the greatest sin of humanity and the cause of our fallen state. See; Genesis, Garden of Eden.
@OssaGhalyoun
@OssaGhalyoun Год назад
I have never heard or read or seen anyone describe the Jews as too powerful, until now. I have heard many other terms but not powerful.
@Henryfordisright
@Henryfordisright Год назад
I wonder whyyyyyy
@acchaladka
@acchaladka Год назад
Then you've not been paying attention. In the supremacist imagination Jews are both sniveling and duplicitous and weak, and all powerful rich and dominating. Square that circle please, mr "too powerful."
@OssaGhalyoun
@OssaGhalyoun Год назад
@@acchaladka They're not too powerful, look again you're confused with lingual term or jargon, in my psyche they are never too powerful. And I know them so well even beyond the nature that my physical senses are able to discern.
@TesterAnimal1
@TesterAnimal1 Год назад
Liar. Conspiracy racist loons are on about them all the time. They do it in coded ways. Ranting about George Soros and an antisemitic dog whistle. It’s all over the sewer of social media. Unchecked by the companies who collude with it and ban people who object to it.
@johicks4573
@johicks4573 Год назад
That’s because Antisemites use euphemisms to hide the fact that they are racists. For example you’ll hear them talk about “the zionist lobby” and imply that Israel are controlling everything… essentially Antisemitism is a virus that mutates, so that new antisemites can deny they are antisemites at all, because their hate is different from the old. In the Middle Ages Jews were hated for their religion. In the nineteenth and early twentieth century they were hated for their race. Today they are hated for their nation state, Israel.
@PlanetJeroen
@PlanetJeroen Год назад
So when we deadname atrans woman, the world is too small, but dead naming someone we disagree with is cool? Interesting.
@Henryfordisright
@Henryfordisright Год назад
Haha
@paladro
@paladro Год назад
entertainers change nams all the time and i've never seen sean combs cry about people calling him an old stage name... keep simpin sucka
@pootis4986
@pootis4986 Год назад
He spoke truth to power
@paladro
@paladro Год назад
how? by having some bigoted opinions...
@roastedicons1234
@roastedicons1234 Год назад
He spoke garbage
@unusedsub3003
@unusedsub3003 Год назад
Jason Lee was a young black footballer. Please tell me more about how he was in a position of power. Or how what Baddiel said was the truth.
@pootis4986
@pootis4986 Год назад
@@paladro by questioning Jewish power and influence you sheep
@dankvader5060
@dankvader5060 Год назад
Agreed
@Historian212
@Historian212 Год назад
I assume that the interviewer compared herself as a Scot to Jews because both are stereotyped as being money-obsessed. Seriously? How many Scots were slaughtered due to that particular stereotype? I’m sure Baddiel could have brought that up, but chose not to. And this is exactly what he’s talking about: when a Jew speaks out about Jewish experience, it’s almost inevitable, in my experience, that a non-Jew will do the “Oh we suffer, too” stuff, and compare themselves in a way that shows they have no idea what we’re talking about. That was excruciating. 🤦🏻‍♀️
@mildemtaysel1234
@mildemtaysel1234 Год назад
Only jewish people suffer?
@mickey2927
@mickey2927 Год назад
Kanye has a point tbh
@Mark-Haddow
@Mark-Haddow Год назад
Of course you'll now fail to back that opinion up with any facts. Thank goodness you bigots know not to spread antisemitism online, a criminal offence in the UK.
@RobBCactive
@RobBCactive Год назад
Kremlin propagandist
@tonupharry
@tonupharry Год назад
I prefer the term putin fluffer
@elih9700
@elih9700 Год назад
His point is a rather old unoriginal and boring.
@mickey2927
@mickey2927 Год назад
@@RobBCactive what does this have to do with Russia?
@pdalaigh
@pdalaigh Год назад
But you suffered no consequences for your racism......funny that
@joananthony6323
@joananthony6323 Год назад
He only apologised when he had no other option and didn't really engage with the issue
@CanadianMonarchist
@CanadianMonarchist Год назад
Someone mentions the Jason Lee sketches in every video David Baddiel does, so I don’t think he has lacked consequences.
@susanstein6604
@susanstein6604 Год назад
You don't have to hate Jews to be an antisemite. You have to believe antisemitic stereotypes are true. Jewish history and Jewish identity don't fit neatly into anyone's pet political theories, left or left.
@asianwoof
@asianwoof Год назад
David is thinking to himself, "is she not self-reflective of what she's doing?"
@Historian212
@Historian212 Год назад
Right??
@wickets9386
@wickets9386 Год назад
The guy is a weasel!
@ashley-fk6dp
@ashley-fk6dp 8 месяцев назад
explain please ?
@skylinerunner1695
@skylinerunner1695 9 месяцев назад
In Canada and the U.S. it's the K word that rhymes with Kite that is used to insult Jews. Amazing that name-calling is a cruel habit many adults keep long after childhood schoolyard behaviour. On a more positive note, I hope I have hair like his at that age.
@tabazan9182
@tabazan9182 Год назад
I think Jason Lee is owned a very long awaited apology, a proper face to face apology. Hypocrisy stinks.
@corsinivideos
@corsinivideos Год назад
He literally did that on his tv programme and went on Jason lee's podcast. So actually 2X face to face apology.
@cheekyboy5000
@cheekyboy5000 Год назад
@@corsinivideos he waited 2 decades to make it, until he had a TV show to promote. Doesn't really come over as sincere. more self promotion.
@corsinivideos
@corsinivideos Год назад
@@cheekyboy5000 Yeah I mean not ideal but better late than never I guess.
@pabloashan-deleon3088
@pabloashan-deleon3088 Год назад
🔆 He especially blessed *"SHEM"* and his Sons, *"BLACK but COMELY"*, and he gave them the habitable earth. 👇🏿 He blessed *"HAM"* and his Sons, *"BLACK like a RAVEN"*, and he gave them as an inheritance the coast of the sea". 👇🏿 He blessed *"JAPHETH"* and his Sons, *"Entirely WHITE"*, and he gave them for an inheritance the desert and its fields, ...Pirke D'Rabbi Eliezer; ❗️🤔💭
@duanchamp1988
@duanchamp1988 Год назад
When sarah silverman was brought up all i can remember about her was being in blackface.
@paladro
@paladro Год назад
keep simpin bot boy
@ashleyoasis7948
@ashleyoasis7948 Год назад
She also mocked Asian ppl
@m0ckingB1rd42
@m0ckingB1rd42 Год назад
Oh like how Whoopi Goldberg does jewface by appropriating a Jewish last name and pretending to be Jewish when she has no Jewish heritage? F ya and your double standards
@garlicgorilla6540
@garlicgorilla6540 Год назад
2 find out who rules over you……
@lornafw
@lornafw Год назад
So weird - Baddiel talking about how bad he and his brother felt cos of anti-Semitic chants at a football match without mentioning his blatant racism against Jason Lee in a TV show which were actually responsible for targeted racial chats against Jason Lee over a period of time....what am I missing???
@marchekate
@marchekate Год назад
Baddiel makes some excellent points about the catch 22 situation the Jewish community face in dealing with antisemitism. As someone on the left who is a critic of the Israeli governments actions I also am aware there is a razor thin line between criticizing zionism and straying into dangerous and repulsive anti jewish tropes. Especially amongst the more conspiracy-prone element of the left. However, as a Tottenham fan with a large amount of fellow fans who are jewish the vast majority of them are not offended by the use of the y-word by Spurs. In fact they see it as a form of support against the antisemitism that was directed towards Spurs long before we used the Y word as a point of pride. Ironically David is a Chelsea fan and along with west ham are historically the worst offenders in this matter. gas chamber hissing noises, T-shirts sold outside Stamford Bridge showing Kane in Hassidic dress with a "one of our own" slogan etc. It may feel different outside the Tottenham supporting community however. Though one of my best mates is a Jewish Gooner and he also has no problem with it. It's a complicated issue and my experiences are obviously anecdotal but I remain willing to listen to his points. Also let's not forget baddiel's shocking racist abuse of the Nottingham Forest footballer Jason Lee and his insufficient excuses and half-aresed apologies that came many years too late. Double-standards?
@m0ckingB1rd42
@m0ckingB1rd42 Год назад
This reads a whole lot like “I have some black friends that are fine with me using the N word, so it’s not really a problem. And one time a black guy said something racist so who cares about anti-black racism”….of course you’d never say this if black people were the subject, but you easily do it for Jews. 🤔
@marchekate
@marchekate Год назад
@@m0ckingB1rd42 that's a false equivalence. I was speaking very specifically about within the context of the Tottenham support base. In no other situation would I or I believe the vast majority of supporters use the Y word in a derogatory sense. Hence my not using it here. All I was doing was try to give some historical context to the use of the word as a reaction TO antisemitism.
@RebMordechaiReviews
@RebMordechaiReviews Год назад
@@marchekate It's not a false equivalence. You start off by saying that you are critical of the Israeli government. Fair enough. So am I! Then you say something slightly different. You say that you are critical of Zionism, the movement which was established to enable the rights of the Jewish people to the re-creation and building of their historic homeland, Israel. So, are there any other states of which you are critical of their very existence? Have you ever thought of wiping France from the map? How about Iran? Here's a good one. Do you agree with Putin who wants to wipe Ukraine off the map? How about one of Arab states? Hmm? No? Is it just the existence of Israel that you have a problem with? You know what that's called don't you?
@marchekate
@marchekate Год назад
@@RebMordechaiReviews I'm not opposed to anyone creating a homeland for themselves. It's a bit more problematic when it involves displacing and oppressing another group of people who also have historic and legal claim to said land no? I don't have a problem with the existence of Israel at all, I think it's creation could have been handled a lot better by Balfour, Lord Rothschild and the Zionist Federation of GB and I do have a problem with the illegal expansion of territory into Palestinian lands and the State of Israels continued oppression of Palestinian people. Clear?
@monkofmayhem1373
@monkofmayhem1373 Год назад
Just make a childrens mode, adults who get their feels hurt use the childrens mode. The rest of the actual adults use the normal version where we can take mean words. If you think this is an endorsement of kanye’s view’s you are in the children’s mode.
@Fuzzypotato2
@Fuzzypotato2 Год назад
I assume you’re talking about Chappell? I’m not sure because you were focused on snowflake mode. Chappell has garnered a history of bigotry, and is a bad example for your childish view.
@RobBCactive
@RobBCactive Год назад
Just make a pay version for racists, bigots and sociopaths to silo themselves in. Advertisers don't like to be associated with such people.
@1995yuda
@1995yuda Год назад
Nice sophistry you got there buddy, however History begs to differ.
@monkofmayhem1373
@monkofmayhem1373 Год назад
@@1995yuda you wish to make historical references to social media speech regulations?
@hellowaves
@hellowaves Год назад
Just watched Jews don't count, really interesting and informative. Loved it and so true and hit the nail on the head.
@sophiemarlen
@sophiemarlen Год назад
David Baddiel's 'Jews Don't Count' is a brilliant book
@Mark-Haddow
@Mark-Haddow Год назад
Is it any better than "Sectarianism isn't to be discussed" by the English press?
@unusedsub3003
@unusedsub3003 Год назад
I wouldn't wipe my ar$€ with it. I have never forgotten how he treated Jason Lee.
@DrPhil-pw2to
@DrPhil-pw2to Год назад
Turns out he’s a racist
@roastedicons1234
@roastedicons1234 Год назад
No its not why you lieing
@DrPhil-pw2to
@DrPhil-pw2to Год назад
@@roastedicons1234 he bullied Jason Lee for years. Impersonating him while wearing a blackface and a pineapple on top of his head . Look it up yourself, you clown.
@HumilityListens
@HumilityListens Год назад
Blah blah blah deflecting
@cheekyboy5000
@cheekyboy5000 Год назад
No consequences for David's hate speech. Shows that blacks can be cancelled for being anti Semitic, but jews cannot be cancelled for being anti black. Which contradicts his whole "jews don't count" thesis.
@mikehollowayuk
@mikehollowayuk Год назад
Great to see half his face...😶
@ariadneschild8460
@ariadneschild8460 Год назад
That's what you took away from this interview?
@hashtwo8885
@hashtwo8885 Год назад
Baddiel was eating pork on Sunday morning television not that long ago.
@Luis_Baruch
@Luis_Baruch Год назад
And yet the only relevant thing about that, is that you’re trying to use it to discredit him. Telling.
@hashtwo8885
@hashtwo8885 Год назад
@@Luis_Baruch I don't need to discredit him, he does a good enough job of that himself. Ever seen him 'blacking up' to get a laugh at and the expense of black brits?
@Luis_Baruch
@Luis_Baruch Год назад
@@hashtwo8885 I saw he did that 28 years ago, yes. So nope, that’s definitely still you discrediting him unless you think he’s a time traveller.
@hashtwo8885
@hashtwo8885 Год назад
@@Luis_Baruch Do you also give him a pass for his recent racial slurs against gypsies?
@Luis_Baruch
@Luis_Baruch Год назад
@@hashtwo8885 I’m not aware of those slurs? But I’m also not an expert on Baddiel. I mean, who really cares about Baddiel, when it’s simple to separate the issue from the man. His argument is perfectly reasonable unless, of course, you don’t want it to be. Which is why, I suspect, those who don’t want it to be - attack the man instead.
@duanchamp1988
@duanchamp1988 Год назад
Your title is misspelled. His name is Ye.
@imwelshjesus
@imwelshjesus Год назад
As in: Ye Gods what a prat.
@75YBA
@75YBA Год назад
His name is mud.
@duanchamp1988
@duanchamp1988 Год назад
@@75YBA your opinion. I think he will overcome and become even greater
@Kodakcompactdisc
@Kodakcompactdisc Год назад
@@duanchamp1988 no chance
@duanchamp1988
@duanchamp1988 Год назад
@@Kodakcompactdisc why no chance? If you don't mind me asking
@1995yuda
@1995yuda Год назад
Great conversation, thanks for the education.
@byanymeansnecessary3052
@byanymeansnecessary3052 Год назад
Last time I checked the bible the Israelites were AFRICAN.. This is a clear European man.. I’m confused. ??????...
@johicks4573
@johicks4573 Год назад
I think you’re just a bit confused, the connection between the Jewish people and Israel goes back long before the birth of either Christianity or Islam. Jews created a society there in the days of Joshua, a kingdom in the days of Saul, and a nation with Jerusalem as its capital in the days of King David: all this more than 3,000 years ago. For 2000 years, the world - and Jews - understood that the Jewish People were an Indigenous People displaced from their homeland. For instance: a Sephardic Jewish poem from the Middle Ages, called “Jerusalem of Spain,” talks about Jewish memories from their beloved Judea [Israel/Palestine]: “the gold of Jerusalem/is reflected in the Tagus River [River in the Iberian Peninsula]/the angels come and go/with the weight of their memories/the bricks of Toledo [city in Spain]/guard the memory/of the splendor of Judea.” The reason why David Baddiel and his ancestors ended up in Europe is because their original home - Israel - was taken from them by empire after empire: think the Assyrian, Babylonian, Persian, Alexandrian, Roman and Byzantine empires, the Crusaders of the Holy Roman Empire, the various Muslim empires such as the Umayyads, Abbasids, Fatimids, Mamluks and Ottomans, and finally the British. And that’s many Jews were forced to emigrate to other parts of the world. That being said Jews are the only people who have maintained a continuous presence in Israel. Most importantly though they are its indigenous, original inhabitants. Jews are an ethnoreligious group and tribe from Eretz Israel (“the Land of Israel” in Hebrew). This is a fact that is easily proven by 4000+ years’ worth of archeology, ample historical record over the last 4 millennia, hundreds of genetic studies in the last several decades, and Jewish culture that dates back thousands of years. The origins of the Jewish People are even reflected in their language. For instance, the original meaning of the word “diaspora” is “the dispersion of the Jewish People beyond the Land of Israel.” The word “tribe” was first used in reference to the Jewish People. The word “Jew” derives not from a faith, but from “Judah” (as in the Kingdom of Judah, one of the two Israelite kingdoms). I’m not Jewish by the way, I’m a gentile that loves history.
@barbaramongoose9
@barbaramongoose9 Год назад
What does this comment even mean????
@barbaramongoose9
@barbaramongoose9 Год назад
@@johicks4573 well said. I wish other commenters would be half ad educated as you are. 🙏
@1878wayne1985
@1878wayne1985 Год назад
No power and influence? Look at what they've done with no power and influence to silence Ye. They've proved his point.
@susanstein6604
@susanstein6604 Год назад
So Jews can't speak up when we face antisemitism because we're caught in a trap that when we speak up we're just proving antisemites are right.
@bobdickweed
@bobdickweed Год назад
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