context: Tambor yelled at Jessica Walter on set and she started crying recounting the experience. Since then all the cast members have apologized either for ignoring, minimizing, or on the behalf of the cast.
Thanks. This should been included in the descriptions, but these hacks that put out YT videos don't care about context. They just high five themselves for having a celeb to display to their audience. The bigger the worse its presented.
I have to say, to find out that David's walk off on Colbert's show was improvised...hats off. It was _so_ smoothly and neatly done by the pair of them, I would have sworn that they ran through it at least _once_ before going up.
They're talking about an interview the cast of "Arrested Development" did. It didn't go well. Sounded like the mostly-male cast was excusing unprofessional, abusive behavior by Jeffrey Tambor. (It really did sound like a dysfunctional family that needs to work some shit out.) Here's a link: www.nytimes.com/2018/05/23/arts/television/arrested-development-netflix-interview-jeffrey-tambor.html
You can really see how careful celebrities now have to be about what they say in interviews. The result is going to be a total lack of candour. In future, watching a talk show will be like a series of crafted statements approved by a legal staff. All because people can't deal with disagreement like adults.
When you watch the guy walk in but it seems like you missed the 1st part of the convo but then Doug Benson suddenly pops up and you question everything you know.
I could tell you what happened off air and have a real conversation about it and make this interview logical. Wait, I thought that was the charm of these shows: they are supposed to be real conversations.
Gam Sansam I understand that. I just meant that people shouldn’t talk about how terrible the interview and David Cross both were, just because they don’t know what they’re talking about.
SERIOUSLYJOKING oh no I totally agree. David cross just seems like a decent guy, him and patton oswald seem like they don't quite belong on showbiz, but are really funny guys. Glad you got the point I'm not trying to 'beef' lol. Nice odenkirk pic, I miss Mr show
@@HUinstinct -- It's not the fact that he loves weed. Bill Maher loves weed as well, but he retains his comedic mind, his quick wit, his intelligence, etc. while Doug is a talentless douchebag that gives all pot-smokers a bad name.
Let me translate for David: "Jessica Walter is a nightmare, too, to work with. She harasses & belittles people, too. Their argument was a long time coming. Jessica and Alia were upset & we felt no need to blast them for their bad behavior, so we tried to smooth-out the problem, instead of digging-in to Jessica's personal issues."
Chris Grady - Is it not obvious this is *exactly* what's going on here? Bateman & everyone else in the interview kept saying, "You know we all have our process.." He was obviously alluding to the fact that Jessica can be very difficult, too.
Del Common- Jessica Walter broke down and cried in an interview about be screamed at by Jeffrey Tambor during filming, that shes never experienced anything like it in 40 yrs of acting. Jason Bateman and David Cross tried to help Jeffrey Tambors image by putting the yelling into context for the media. They both got blasted for it, then apologized soon after
Del Common I’m pretty sure it’s because a few months ago she the me too move me to was popular, Charlene Ye said David Cross made fun of her about being Asian (to her face) years ago. 🤷🏽♀️ I think she’s a trouble maker. Also, David’s wife, some actress, took Charlene’s side and is a big mouth about the me too shit.
Pepe Meme Like many talented/successful ppl, he seems like a narcissistic asshole with zero impulse control. He has done such great work, but seems to be a pretentious douche bag who can’t handle not getting his balls licked. One of his appearances on the old O&A show gave a glimpse into his shittiness. He had to be the funniest and smartest guy in the room. Pulled that dickhead move where you disagree with someone and talk about how they are not smart enough to even understand. He says funny dialogue written for him in a funny way, but he carries himself like all knowing genius.
Its weird, everyone's shitting on David cross for being too vague.. which he is, I have no idea what hes on about. Then I read through the youtube comments and nobody's mentioned what the controversy is. I still dont know what the hell happened lol. Only in the 21st century can you have a 20min clip about controversy where the details of the controversy isnt brought up by interviewer/view-ee or the people watching.
I joke all the time on line and people probably think I am a monster. Years ago when my office started to use internal E mail to each other. I had hit the capital button. MY EMAIL CAME OUT LIKE THIS. I did not think much of it. I just quickly wanted to inform the assistant manager something. The boss called me into his office because they said it meant that I was angry and yelling at him. I still find that to be strange.
It's interesting how a new narrative is starting to emerge, where celebrities are starting to recognize and combat the slanderous online community. How SJW (when going too far) become the actual bullying community. I'm curious to see where we'll be at as a society in the next 5 years.
ALSO, guys, trolls on the internet DO just show fake outrage just to give their empty lives meaning, DONT FALL FOR IT..im no troll, im a living thinking breathing caring person, BUT YOU LOVE with your heart, USE YOUR BRAIN FOR EVERYTHING ELSE..-captain disillusion...
so the first thing he learned from the incident was how to wait it out in the media? i do however, appreciate him taking responsibility for seeing something was wrong and not doing anything about it.
The Arrested Development cast were interviewed. At some point, during the interview, it was mentioned how Jeffrey Tambour lost his temper during the shoot of the series and screamed at fellow co-star Jessica Walter. Jessica Walter then broke down in tears, explaining how she hadn't experienced anything like that before in over 40 years of acting. Jason Bateman and David Cross however explained that they are a family and shooting can be difficult and how actors deal with things differently and that Tambour just lost his temper that day and he apologised for it. In essence, Bateman and Cross were explaining how this was a one-off thing and that they all got over it and are a close family unit and that arguments are bound to happen. People interpreted this as Bateman and Cross dismissing Jessica's Walter's pain, talking over her, and being an example of sexism in the media industry. They apologised soon afterwards.
Are you happy? Is this what we have become?? The fact that the far left & the far right are so polarized that people can't even talk anymore?? I admit I am not perfect & I know some people won't like me. With that said, please, please, please allow people to make mistakes & be human. Just my opinion.
@@earnthis1 religious moral authoritarians and the far left are both bad and are cut from the same cloth. small but loud groups of people that want to force censorship because, big fucking surpise! not everyone in the world follows their ideals.
Eh. It's a big story if you follow comedy/comedians. To most people it was just white noise, or something you'd get from ET or TMZ. Which is why they probably should have taken 10 seconds to give the context to a twenty minute interview. Maybe they just assume only comedy fans listen and watch their podcast.
Yes, because pausing a video and reading the comment section or googling David Cross controversy, would be too much work. Better for him to put himself on a cross (pun intended) one more time for those few that couldn't be bothered to look it up.
just google it people....basically tambor got in shit for yelling at Jessica Walter on set in front of the rest of the cast while they did nothing to defend her...the reason they didn't defend her was because she apparently had done it to others, and they all knew it. a "she had it coming" attitude, you could say...which if true, then it was deserved. she then "put on the waterworks" and now people are kicking up a fuss about it, so it's apologies all around, before netflix gives them the roseanne treatment. now that you know that, you can understand why he is "apologizing" and being cryptic. no one actually thinks there was a problem with someone who was known for throwing their weight around getting a dose of their own meds. but the sjw's make alot of noise, so we get a cancelled press tour, and the parade of damage control apologies.
Honestly, a lot of people today are way too emotionally driven and not willing to stop and think about whether or not they know the whole thing. Running on emotion first over controversies like this never works out.
It's interesting that they're talking about irrational internet anger and all the comments for this are people making shitty remarks. You can extrapolate the context from the conversation. I like to hear David Cross speak, he's an interesting and funny man. Thanks.
Man everyone cowers down these days. David Cross use to be an outspoken guy that didn't give a shit...and now this. So he's having to apologize for what someone else did...because someone got screamed at and it came out in an interview. I sorta feel right or wrong old David Cross wouldn't tip toe around a topic such as this. Man society has gotten super weak and sad these days. Can't wait till it all implodes on itself.
Its because everyone is scared of social media, especially since its now become the second arm of the MSM. Even if you do no harm, you'll get bad publicity if you're not PC or you don't say the "right" things. No one thinks anymore.... everyone just reacts. And that's the problem.
Comedians who are crying about "sjw " culture just missed the boat. There's never been more money in comedy , they're just not in touch with new funny. Happens every generation, suck it up, me-babies privileged celebs.
That's because there is no context to a guy being an asshole on the job. The "yeah but" has to do with being right on a specific issue. But being right is less important than being kind to one another in the workplace. Jesus Christ.
If David cross made fun of me like he did to the Asian woman I would instantly think "oh yeah it is fucking David Cross. If he actually wants to be mean I would be crying."
He has to speak more carefully now, because, as he said, he "doesn't want to go through this sh*t again." He learned the lesson that if you say a woman was being sh*tty, and used tears to emotionally manipulate sympathy, then you will get crucified by extreme feminists. Sure, I wish he had spoken more openly, and not been gentle about saying Walters was pushing buttons which lead Tambor to snap, which is why everyone defends him, but as he said, he "learned the lesson"- being open and honest about women's behavior will get you into trouble. He wants to work again, so he is choosing his words carefully. P.S. You can hear he and Bateman kind of defend Tambor, by saying "it didn't come out of nowhere". It reminded me of Bill Burr's bit about hitting a woman, in which he says that the focus is always about men's reaction, and not what led up to it, or to what he was reacting. I think it is on youtube as "no reason to hit a woman". I think it applies here, which is why everyone came to his defense- she is likely the "difficult" one, not him. Burr says "can we not act like the ass-whooping just fell out of the sky"; in this case, it would be a yelling/insulting fit instead of an ass-whooping. Cross and Bateman both said he is not the type to come in angry and yelling, and that it "didn't come out of nowhere", which is how you say she was being a passive-aggressive, condescending b*tch is PC culture. He said what he can get away with in this culture and still find work. In other words, don't hate the player, hate the game (PC culture).
Zer0FiveSeven agreed but it’s really not as much his fault as Jim and sams, they are the interviewers and should have said “just so everyone knows the backstory .....” and filled us in. They don’t have to be careful where David probably does.
Mark Normand is great but too bad he gets ignored. I don't understand this show. Once in a while you get gold when guys like Ricky Gervais show up. Nobody gives a shit about political hot takes and PC outrage. You're comedians, you are supposed to be riffing and shitting on each other. Watch the last couple of 'You Know What Dude' podcasts (Robert Kelly's podcast) to see what a comedy podcast should be. The latest with Stavros Halkias & Nick Mullen (Cumtown) is hilarious, but not on RU-vid yet. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Bl2Uwu_ijqI.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oP8zmZb_qis.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-t3NuneVtrQg.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uvys8hj2Aa8.html
How do so many people in the comments not know about the controversy he's talking about? It was all over twitter just days before the new season came out.
I hate how this show always generalizes shit that is done on Twitter as if it's a large portion of the actual publics opinion or feelings. They constantly make twitter beefs as if the entire world is "saying" something or acting a certain way.
I'm disappointed in David Cross here. Joking about "we were putting Nazi cookies in the oven" totally seeks to downplay and deflect legitimate criticism. He was wrong. Just say that and move on. Stop trying to justify it
Its so great people can express their own opinion with all their bias and self aggrandizing. Whats even better is that the person receiving it will move on and not give a shit because words are fucking wind.
I'm so glad David brought up the topic of what's wrong with men as opposed to women who never lie, cheat, steal, abuse, break the rules, manipulate or harm others who are simply Angels sent here to set the world alight with brighty goodness...Warms the cockles of me heart just thinkin' about it:)...I just remembered one more thing that women never do and that is to seek power over others to further their own agendas, needs, desires, wants etc.(we'll leave that to those naughty men)
Thanks for the reply estapley...I've never heard of "Incel" so I looked it up...I am not a part of that "group" or identify with them...I am my own person with my own experiences and knowledge based on those experiences...I'm not looking to join or form any group...I wish you well:)
Can we make up a term for dudes whose entire self worth is directly correlated to how much they get laid? Or maybe we shouldn't, all these new group labels get annoying.
Big David Cross fan here. I agree with most of his statements and rationalizations 60% of the time. EVERYONE goes through stress. I don't agree at 13:24, that just because something is stressful that you can write off berating a coworker. I agree, it's understandable, but don't be an ageist and equate Jessica's age or sex as a factor. I still love you David, but on this point, I disagree
Maybe actors are just nutjobs who'd like to be normal but just can't. So they run with the multiple personality syndrome. I dunno. The Arts and her artists are that way, and bring us some deep, meaningful ways of looking at our lives. But I think it comes at a personal cost to the artist.