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David Graeber: All Economies are Ultimately Human Economies (2015) 

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@ping-annaddo5248
@ping-annaddo5248 9 лет назад
Great talk. And for the record, I DID read Graeber's "Towards an Anthropological Theory of Value." I cited it in my own work and teach it regularly to students. Great work. DG is a great teacher.
@TechLive
@TechLive 8 лет назад
Sounds like you're a great teacher as well! Thanks for all your effort!
@JohnWilson-ng1ui
@JohnWilson-ng1ui 4 года назад
i started reading it a while ago and couldn't get through it. This inspired me to pick it back up
@remypetit1791
@remypetit1791 2 года назад
He's an incredibly inspiring scholar, I think I'm gonna start studying anthropology
@foodparadise5792
@foodparadise5792 3 года назад
Too bad I found this man's work after he passed.
@puppetMattster
@puppetMattster 8 лет назад
This man can crash on my couch absolutely anytime.
@anthony9475
@anthony9475 4 года назад
Firstand Last You’re a really weird dude.
@remypetit1791
@remypetit1791 2 года назад
You bet, I'll make sure we never run out of weed
@domeister76
@domeister76 3 года назад
That guy asking him to slow down repeatedly! haha! Asking Graeber's mind to slow down is like asking an F1 racing car to keep to the speed limit.
@idlikemoreprivacy9716
@idlikemoreprivacy9716 2 года назад
Sounds like envy too. I'm a non native speaker and can follow w/o problems + have time to think about what he says and enjoy the talk.
@elizabethdesousa8290
@elizabethdesousa8290 Год назад
I was feeling irritated that he continued to do that. I found it rude.
@nathanielroach6559
@nathanielroach6559 Год назад
I know, right?
@dansbike1
@dansbike1 22 дня назад
The so called moderator guy is a moron. David Graeber's problem wasn't that he spoke too fast, it was that he had all these annoying affectations. Lip smacking, groaning etc...
@xyzunodostres
@xyzunodostres 3 года назад
Graeber: "The more useful your job, the less you get paid. How did that happen?"
@nicetrymate813
@nicetrymate813 2 года назад
RIP David Graeber. Absolute legend
@uberdru
@uberdru 5 лет назад
Mr. Van Halen, could you please play fewer notes?
@manondamoon8911
@manondamoon8911 5 лет назад
Or at least slow it down would ya. What a fucken liberty
@suesimmons926
@suesimmons926 4 года назад
Monetizing and commodifying everything reminds me of the elaborate system of classification of every kind of possible sin undertaken in the Middle Ages.
@n1mbusmusic606
@n1mbusmusic606 3 года назад
we love you Dave. your the best. RIP
@guzelaziz
@guzelaziz Месяц назад
Incredible talk. Still so relevant.
@kingmob2615
@kingmob2615 3 года назад
God DAMN, that's a good approach to medicine. Thank goodness for that doctor and thank goodness for social ecology. Rest in Power David Graeber, Murray Bookchin, Abdullah Ocalan, and all of the martyrs! ✊🖤🏴🦝🏴🖤
@TheJoetebb
@TheJoetebb Год назад
ocalan lives on!!!
@yabyum108
@yabyum108 6 лет назад
A revolutionary thinker
@nathanswann1198
@nathanswann1198 4 года назад
when Graeber goes off script and cuts like a knife, my brain wrinkles.
@mikeh5399
@mikeh5399 6 лет назад
"That very isolation, which enslaves us is freedom." That's some George Orwell business right there.
@instituteforexperimentalar7493
@instituteforexperimentalar7493 4 года назад
DAVID GRAEBER was a founding member of the Institute for Experimental Arts He did a lecture with the title: How social and economic structure influences the Art World in the Financial Consequences - International MultiMedia Poetry Festival organized by the Institute for Experimental Arts supported by LSE Department of Anthropology. Influential anthropologist David Graeber, known for his 2011 volume Debt: The First 5000 Years speaks about the correlation between the cultural sphere and society. The intellectuals and the artists create an imaginary way to criticize the economic system in any era. Art can overcome hegemonic frameworks and acknowledge other possible worlds, offer us the opportunity to understand better the marginalized social entities. Social exclusion is the process in which individuals or people are systematically blocked from (or denied full access to) various rights, opportunities and resources that are normally available to members of a different group, and which are fundamental to social integration and observance of human rights within that particular group (e.g., housing, employment, healthcare, civic engagement, democratic participation, and due process). As the economic crises go deeper in time more people face the effects of exclusion. Art and social sciences can give voice to the voiceless. Especially young social aware poets can give us a clear view of the real social effect of the financial consequences. - David Graeber You can watch the Lecture here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WCF-8OQj0RE.html
@johnstockwellmajorsmedleyb1214
Thank You David for your speech, it is at one time Logical, Thoughtful, Entertaining, and Philosophical. I am proud to be and live, and Live Well, as a Libertarian Socialist. Most believe I am just a bit eccentric, but you allow me to show them there are others, in a fun way.
@scottylilacleona9193
@scottylilacleona9193 5 лет назад
This helps me understand what my mother believes, that belief of work being valuable in itself. I could bring this up to her sometime.
@VIsTheMusic
@VIsTheMusic 7 лет назад
I absolutely agree with every single thing and living a life devoted to improving the global community one idea at a time. Liberate yourselves from BS in your lives. BS is not acceptable in 2017 + + !!!!!!!!!!
@robinhoodstfrancis
@robinhoodstfrancis 8 лет назад
Fantastic. I would've liked to make reference to his work in my masters thesis on co-operatives in renewable energy in Europe. I've been appreciating social constructivism/constructionism as a way to support understanding the mainstream neoliberal views and the alternative in civil society organizations like Greenpeace, Oxfam, and the World Conference on Religions for Peace. The co-operative business model, no less, with David Ellerman's new formulation of a Labor Theory of Property is excellent. William Greider wrote an excellent book, The Soul of Capitalism, in which he discusses these things, along with Herman Daly's ecological economics. Fritjof Capra has been using the expression "ecological literacy," some of the foundations of how we make each other, this idea that Graeber talks about so richly.
@johnstockwellmajorsmedleyb1214
For sure self reliance creating communities off the grid, diconnect ourselves from the machine in everyway and it will wither and die!!! So simple educate, plan, build, create, walk away from the machine in every way and back to what is really sacred!!!
@pjabtg
@pjabtg 5 лет назад
It’s funny I was mad at the guy for telling him to slow down three times, but at the end he was right, David’s too brilliant for his own mouth, when he slows down, we applaud :)
@voltcorp
@voltcorp 2 года назад
yet, sitting down now with a button to slow down the video, and not having him around anymore to give us his brilliance, it does put into perspective how perhaps he should've been allowed to make the best possible use of his time.
@christflu4221
@christflu4221 2 года назад
13:38-14:20 is the best summarization of the discussions around "reproductive labor" that i've heard. man he really had a way with words sometimes. what a loss. RIP
@mechabits197
@mechabits197 6 лет назад
and paying over the odds for your education...to people who probably didnt....is a sure fire way to boost their economy.
@petertschann-grimm1468
@petertschann-grimm1468 6 лет назад
Heh I feel for that guy interrupting because Graeber really is brilliant, and he does talk fast... if English isn't your first english, I'm sure it would be hard to understand his points.
@SamraK64
@SamraK64 4 года назад
I can testify. English is my second language and I think I'm really good at understanding it, but the first time I heard Graeber was one of the most intense intellectual effort I produced ever. Now that I saw a few videos I'm getting used to his way of speaking and I think I get everything, but wow, this first time, hearing him live with no "10 sec backwards" button... I feel for the (I think mostly German) people who are hosting and attending this event
@adamstheguy1619
@adamstheguy1619 3 года назад
You cant just keep stopping people from talking. It interrupts their thought process and is not polite. Just replay, for God’s sake. Or learn better English.!These days we should have real time robotic translators into any language. I am sure tech is out there.
@nohisocitutampoc2789
@nohisocitutampoc2789 3 года назад
Definitely the moderator was a impolite gut, there’s no question about it. But, Graeber had a very difficult English. And most part of the word don’t have English as a the first, thanks God.
@joshismyhandle
@joshismyhandle 2 года назад
That’s why the bloke who is interrupting should just rewatch the video on RU-vid in half the speed if so desired. Interrupting the speaker’s train of thought for the listener to understand in a conference is not only rude, but subtracts from the points able to be made within the allocated window of time to speak.
@Shiro46AV
@Shiro46AV 9 лет назад
Great vid!
@oldreprobate2748
@oldreprobate2748 3 года назад
Money is a social construct, and that social construct is best used to support the needs of all of society. When not there is eventual crime, enemies, wars, and every other I'll that exist within our worldwide human experience.
@suesimmons926
@suesimmons926 4 года назад
Production of people:"This is my work and my glory... to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man."
@TarquinFoundump
@TarquinFoundump 8 лет назад
tight
@domingo2977
@domingo2977 4 года назад
He serious because he took off the glasses. 🤣🤣😂🤣🤯😱🤔
@0empanadas534
@0empanadas534 5 лет назад
Alguien mas llegó aquí gracias a Migala? :^
@OneEyedMonkey9000
@OneEyedMonkey9000 2 года назад
It’s funny to hear the guy asking David to slow down played at 1.25x speed 😆
@tristanreynolds5135
@tristanreynolds5135 4 года назад
This reminds me of Baudrillard's book, *The Mirror of Production*. I think Zizek acknowledges this with Marx's work, though he uses some Lacanian maneuvering to make it into a good/neccessary thing.
@niharnm3671
@niharnm3671 9 месяцев назад
Lmp
@robwallace8249
@robwallace8249 2 года назад
At 5:35 David mentions that Marx wrote that ancient authors did not write about the conditions that would create the most wealth, but rather the conditions that would create the best people. Can anyone tell me where in Marx's writings that can be found?
@ernststravoblofeld
@ernststravoblofeld 4 года назад
I think they had a bet behind the scenes to see if they could get David to do an unwitting Shatner impression.
@Anarchist_Black_Sheep
@Anarchist_Black_Sheep 5 месяцев назад
I don't know much about David as a person, but somehow, I think he would have approved of such a bet.
@FreerMasons
@FreerMasons 2 года назад
It sounds like he is discussing Polanyi's embedded systems argument. capitalism embedded in Communism is much different than communism embedded in Capitalism. @29:00
@jakecarlo9950
@jakecarlo9950 2 года назад
❤️
@Goofy8907
@Goofy8907 Месяц назад
What's wrong with the people wanting him to slow down?
@s4njuro462
@s4njuro462 7 лет назад
That dude interrupting annoyed me enough to stop watching...
@lemon4472
@lemon4472 6 лет назад
The interruption was cuz the live-translators could catch up, but yeah, he could've totally been more chill about it.
@legalfictionnaturalfact3969
@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 5 лет назад
It's almost like it was intended to annoy and interrupt.
@PerteTotale
@PerteTotale 5 лет назад
Interrupting a thought process is disrespect, and untimely i. is a sign of dumbness. (Live) Translators should be ok with this speed, though I give a small handicap: the fast leap from 1 topic to 1a or 2 is where importance of understanding the topic and a broad voca comes in. I understand all this talk at normal speed and English is only my 3th language.
@anthony9475
@anthony9475 4 года назад
Some languages take longer to speak than others such as sign language. Try and be more sympathetic.
@njits789
@njits789 2 года назад
"David, a little bit slower." What?
@AudioPervert1
@AudioPervert1 5 лет назад
all love the mac laptop ... Wow!
@smooa1889
@smooa1889 4 года назад
what
@nicetrymate813
@nicetrymate813 2 года назад
Can I ask why you have the triskellion as your logo? and why is the triskellion being used in this presentation?
@Hauptstufe
@Hauptstufe Месяц назад
He wasn't speaking fast! Who appointed this moderator?
@suesimmons926
@suesimmons926 4 года назад
How can you stand to do all that housework drudgery everyday? Actually what I am doing is raising a family!
@amyjefferis3394
@amyjefferis3394 2 года назад
29:05 "capitalism is just a bad way of organizing communism"😂
@n1mbusmusic606
@n1mbusmusic606 3 года назад
they killed him we have to Stand up for whats right. this isn't okay. this guy was one of the most important people on the planet. absolutely unacceptable.
@markmason8469
@markmason8469 5 лет назад
In the future, do not interrupt the speakers demanding that they speak more slowly. This is rude. An insult. If you have a problem with language communications you can hire a translator and hand our headphones. Don't interrupt speakers. Why is it necessary for me to even articulate this request? Don't confuse and distract any speaker with your own personal language problems.
@SoziologeKS
@SoziologeKS 3 года назад
this. this damn moderator... and the 5 seconds he spoke slower after that were torture
@funkybunky64
@funkybunky64 4 года назад
David mentions this work *Stop creating capitalism". Found it here: www.johnholloway.com.mx/2011/07/30/stop-making-capitalism/ Interesting read!
@dumbnonblonde4840
@dumbnonblonde4840 4 года назад
David is endlessly cute and he looks so damn young I won't look half as good when I age, love him so much
@FreerMasons
@FreerMasons 2 года назад
@25:15 :)
@harismichail2
@harismichail2 7 месяцев назад
Just in the vantage point of a viewer. The guy interrupting. What a tool.Just follow the natural rhythm of the person. goddam
@FreerMasons
@FreerMasons 2 года назад
@17:45 :(
@smooa1889
@smooa1889 5 лет назад
this dude says um so fucking much everytime he speaks
@smooa1889
@smooa1889 4 года назад
um
@alinebaruchi1936
@alinebaruchi1936 2 года назад
.
@xyzunodostres
@xyzunodostres 4 года назад
31:42
@legalfictionnaturalfact3969
@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 5 лет назад
HOW ABOUT RECORD THE TALK AND PLAY IT AT HALF SPEED FOR YOURSELF LATER SO YOU DON'T WASTE EVERYONE ELSE'S TIME SAYING "SLOWER SLOWER PAUSE MORE NEEEE", YOU ENTITLED MANBABY.
@jedimastersterling1
@jedimastersterling1 6 лет назад
Slaves but to whom? If you're socially isolated but you have a baby and a mortgage you effectively become a slave to your work and your creditor. If you're socially isolated, your job sucks, but you don't owe anything to anyone you can pick up and leave any time you feel like it. Who is the slave master for a drifter?
@luciennoxisou9502
@luciennoxisou9502 4 года назад
All the means of subsistence are enclosed for private profit - it is pretty hard to drift away from that hegemony though not entirely impossible if one is committed to squatting on commonly held land somewhere - for many working class people, this is not a real possibility.
@aliceinwonder8978
@aliceinwonder8978 Год назад
"your job sucks." you answered your own question. you are a slave to your boss, who exploits you for profit and puts you in bad conditions
@AtlantaBill
@AtlantaBill 6 лет назад
Apparently there are simultaneous translations being done and that's why from time to time the call to slow down. Maybe they should let Graeber spell one of the interpreters for a while and find out how hard it is to put his sentences into another language. Incidentally, it's obvious that Graeber doesn't understand the classic concept of the Labor Theory of Value as found in Marx. If labor produces humans instead of material goods, how do you measure the value of these humans for the marketplace? You have to have material output before you can talk about stored labor power, i.e. Marx's dead labor.
@kvaka009
@kvaka009 6 лет назад
Atlanta Bill maybe the interpreters should make sure to try to do their work as best as they can without throwing off the speaker in his presentation. And I'm sure David knows more about Marx than you ever will. Your comment ignores or simply misunderstands what David said: Marx assumes the labor theory of value because he is engaging in imminent critique, which does not mean he himself believed that the only source of value is labor power. That was the point David explicitly made. Maybe he should've talked slower for you.
@hotelcampina
@hotelcampina 4 года назад
Gwyn Williams. What a tragedy his passing. One can only imagine what else he might have produced for our enlightenment. We have all lost a brother, no doubt at all
@LoisKl
@LoisKl 3 года назад
Truly a huge loss... on so many levels.. He had/has a book coming out hopefully in spring, in collaboration with David Wengrow. A snek peak on the subject can be listened to here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EvUzdJSK4x8.html
@moviereviews1446
@moviereviews1446 Год назад
The lip smacking is unbearable.
@TheGodlessGuitarist
@TheGodlessGuitarist 3 года назад
I'll bet capitalists choke when they here DG tell them that they invented the notion of 'arbeit macht frei'.
@xyzunodostres
@xyzunodostres 4 года назад
Where is Rogivo?
@ollipaukkeri
@ollipaukkeri 3 года назад
it's Rojava. In syria
@dannyhermetz7201
@dannyhermetz7201 4 года назад
Teaching in school settings is primarily abstract and not useful. Teaching on the job as part of some production process which makes something people value is useful.
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