Joe Francis Specifically, I don't think David Starkey would fit that description, but yes i do hold that as criteria for my respect. Anyways, you can always tell which ones are looking for attention because they all or some of the following words: islamaphobe, fascist, racist, xenophobe, nazi, etc. etc. Words i do not see Starkey use without good reason
It's not a big deal , punishing people like Jo swinson and all the low lives who destroyed everything for the past 3 decades is the only thing that matters . Which won't happen since the entire west has been pussified . Unless you punish people for their low life actions and arrogance and make a example out of it burning in the minds of people and carve it strong in history , they will repeat behaving the same way and all you can do is feel happy about is when they leave one by one after doing an irreversible damage . The next one will fill their seat and continue doing the same and all you can do is , try hard for decade just to remove them from their seat and feel happy about a irrelavant crap like that . It's just pathetic and weak.
It was such a satisfying result for politicians who just don't get it. They are still trapped in the 90s or early 2000s and don't realise our problems have massively changed since then
It was funny watching her get totally destroyed, mainly because I disagree with cannabis legalisation and she proposed to legalise it for her own political gain ignoring the terrible toll cannabis has had on families up and down the country.
David Starkey had a point. Basically that audience member was saying, leave that argument at the door, because us Labour supporters find it inconvenient and difficult to argue against.
+Patrick Dixon But they weren't in government. The point I was making was that man was saying lets not debate things I find it hard to argue against, which I think is nothing short of ignorant. I'd like to think we would be in different position had we not been under New Labour, although the present Conservatives would have been a disaster too.
+Patrick Dixon Don't Labour call them the 'nasty party'? Surely that would mean they would have spent less in the run up to the financial crash, leaving Britain in a better position to weather the storm. Labour policy is to spend spend spend to buy votes for future elections, or do PFI deals for future generations to pay it off.
I'm a woman and i wasnt insulted at all by Starsky's comment. He was joking. Women make generalized jokes about men too. Women like these are why men say we are humorless.
Bravo. Well said. That's simple honest language. Reveals the truth. Gotta be human to know it. My wife and i crack jokes at each other all the time. But we know the truth. Love.
@@andyt2k Gotta protest there. Starkey actually had a *very* austere and unpriveliged northern background. No silver spoon in mouth there. He came to his own political views following hard work and considerable intellectual ability despite not being a paid-up member of the "old boy's club". If that's your definition of a "typical tory" then that's rather a compliment to conservatives that I strongly suspect you didn't intend!
I know you guys seem to dislike this guy and I'm an American so I don't really follow the political situation in the UK, but I feel like this guy might be getting a bad rap for standing up for himself. In every one of the videos that I've seen this guy go off on someone, it always starts with some shitheel making some kind of personal remark instead of debating his position or taking his sarcasm seriously. Sometimes a video edits out that part to make him look more like a bully, but if you watch the full videos of what transpires it seems someone always makes some deeply personal, and thinly veiled insult, before he brings it into the light. Then that person seems to shy away and play victim. The man is hilarious with a biting wit. In this day and age of always keeping the kid gloves on when dealing with subtle personal attacks, I appreciate his directness.
The panel trying to bash Starkey over sexism is like watching wild dogs trying to steal food from a lion. Starkey intellectually decimates these fools I front of the whole nation.
doomplatoon and David strarsky is a racist pro English arsehole nothing happens anywhere over the borders where he stays he calls himself a historian what a joke
He’s not a great thinker. He is perpetuating a myth that the Labour government were responsible for the global recession caused by reckless bankers, and then perpetuating the other myth of trickledown economics. See where these policies have got the UK now? The man is an idiot.
The only one reasonable enough in the panel was David Starkey himself. The rest was too busy talking about sexism when confronting him, as for the tax system - no one came up with anything worthy.
I do not understand the need for such hostility. Incandescent arguements flawed by a lack of mutual respect. Opinions do not dictate what we are, also, to accuse benefits to be the case of laziness I find deeply offensive. I have been trying to get work myself, and it's actually really hard to get it as a person that cannot cope well in examinations. This society is biased, backwards and stupid; but we do not see this in the present government leadership, both to the opposition and the PM. Both contrast and are very different. We all know Gordon Brown and Tony Blair were Tories in disguise XD
Well, isn't that lovely. A person without the basic skill of manners. I did not come with hostility to you, I thought this was supposed to be a fair society? Well, this sentiment is surely contradicted, thus proving my point further. :p Though, I am open to constructive criticism, why am I a prick? Was I rude? Did I offend you by standing up for benefits that people may actually need?
I'm American and so I admit I don't know much about British politics or what the issues are here...but I just have to say this David Starkey guy is freaking hilarious! I love his dry humor! "I'm not, I'm flattering him!" LOL
Just throw in Geert Wilders to a panel of leftist champagne socialists. It doesn't matter if the BBC out number him 4 to 1, he will still own all of them in the debate.
Of course! The neo left call Wilders a 'fascist' and the far right call Wilders a 'Zionist'. Never heard him praise Israel as a utopia at all. I have heard him praise Israel for its tolerance of gays, women and other religions living within its society. But he does end up saying a lot of things about Islam, that's for sure. But it's all irrelevant, enough silly debates, we will sit and debate for years and years and then slowly it will happen, then all the debates are irrelevant :)
@@rafthejaf8789 no Raf you are the fascist I vote Labour and support Starkey its manic virtue signalling politically correct obsessives who have made the Left a laughing stock and resulted in a decade of Tory domination.
@@davidhyatt7772 So now after after being so concerned about my calling Starkey a fascist you are calling me one! 😅 No it wasn't all those fictitious things you mentioned that cost Labour the election, it was the vicious media aided by the right of party inhabited by social fascists, a new term for you there! 👍Have you heard of of punctuation btw?
Well played Mr Starkey your intelligence is clearly evident during this discussion, I agree labour wrecked everything last time they cannot stop spending, as you have said politics of the heart and not the head.
And you are a fool. The world economic crash ruined the economy. 10 years of Tory austerity that you seem to espouse has done nothing to balance the books, nothing to strengthen the economy and nothing for those less well off. Your Tory friends on the other hand , have done rather well out of it.
What a shovel,of shit you've tossed at a lil tossed that's got no time 4 any bugger that's of working class or poor ! Absolute shit 2 say that labour f--led everything up and he knows it ! You on the tutha hand know SFA and you've been comatose 4 the last 11 year !!!
him and starkey seem to be the only ones saying what they really honestly feel. everyone else seems to let their mind go through a sive of political correctness before allowing themselves to say it. starkey is a man who has realised this, we have got to a point in society where everyone conforms way too easily and live in fear of saying something practical because it could result in them being 'labelled'.
I think it was more about categorising people, saying that all women think in one particular way. I wouldn't want everything about me to be postulated on the fact that I'm a man, so I don't see why it would be right to do so to women. In fact, saying 'Women all do this' is the very definition of sexism.
mattcast44 No it isn't. I could say that women all have breasts, or they all have vaginas, and that would simply be fact, notwithstanding the rare exceptions (breast removal surgery etc,.). Something is not sexist simply because it assumes a group trait that may well be true. Additionally, I see no one crying over the fact that he has DIRECTLY INSULTED men, by saying they are all heartless. " I wouldn't want everything about me to be postulated on the fact that I'm a man," I do agree with this, but this is not what Starkey is doing. He's simply taking a single trait and emphasising it for effect. I personally don't even agree with him, but if this is sexist, it is sexist against men, not women.
Ronnie Swoleman Your statement refers to biological facts. What Starkey says is that all women can only think with their hearts, all men can only think with their heads. Yes, it is sexist against men and women. But if you listen to his discourse, he is saying that this is a situation where we ned to think with our heads. Thus all women are wrong about the situation as they can only think with their hearts. There is a huge difference between biological attributes and nonsensical inventions about the different way that the different genders think.
Ronnie Swoleman I think that all different people think in all different ways and that being a man or a woman is just one factor of many which plays a role in the way we think. Now, rather than asking (pretty irrelevant) questions or opening up a discussion on sex and gender, are you going to address the points I raised?
All parties are always arguing about where the money's coming from. They blythly manage to ignore the fact that it always comes from the same place, US. That's a distraction. the pertinent question is, WHERE'S IT GOING?
David Starkey is a star. He is not just a mouthy know-it-all he really does run rings around most of the people who he is up against. The other thing to note about him is that he really enjoys giving good value to his audience. Only Jeremy Clarkson and possibly Russell Brand have more fun living up to their own stereotypes.
He didn't insult John Redwood. He was being sarcastic. By referring to John as an alien he was mocking the sentimentality of the left-wing politics that seeks to classify tories as elitists and unrelatable because of their seemingly ruthless policies when in fact he was making the point that these seemingly ruthless policies are necessary to rescue the economy after Labour's failings.
Ironically, Starkey says that Redwood is not human and can’t process emotions yet at 3:34 it is Redwood who is embarrassed at Starkey’s attack on the audience member. That said, I agree with Starkey. The audience member doesn’t argue a position.
Starkey delivers a shit sandwich right between the teeth of anyone who comes close to stopping him from talking. Really, only the brutally honest can be this brutal.
His father worked in a washing machine factory and his mother was a cleaner. He brought himself out of the gutter. It's absurd to say he has no idea about real life. He knows far more about it than the rest of the panel, and he most certainly isn't a liar.
Labour were in government for 13 years, so I don't think you could blame Tories. Gordon Brown painted himself as some sort of 'steady hand' on the economy, and having safeguarded us from boom and bust. The truth is, he sailed to close to the wind with our countries' finances with vote bribing giveaways such as tax credits etc. Their PFI deals we are still paying for today, and our disgusting hospitals, cleaned by private sector agency staff, are what we have to show for it. Don't get me started at selling off our gold at the bottom of the market. Socialism is expensive.
They're partly to blame for deregulation of the banks, but that had to be done. There was no right or wrong decision. In reality, the wider global market crash was a result of itself as a system, not the Labour Party.
Starkey is a quality speaker. Precise and concise. As he said, which is completely correst, it is all facts! What a shame nobody has the balls to directly answer important issues
The guy was a pompous, patronising ignoramus. Of course it's important that people understand that the reason why the current government is struggling to deal with certain issues. Prats like him have short memories and like to blame anyone but themselves for being able to give the Tory party some semblance of due in trying to clean up the mess that Labour had made. I'm not a big fan of the Tory part either but we need to be fair when it comes to the blame game.
Clark contradicts himself because he says that footballers are only too happy to contribute towards tax but then defends them when they're accused of tax avoidance.
I agree with Starkey on many things, at least he's saying what a lot of people are thinking and doesn't mince his words unlike most of the slippery snake politicians and other public figures! Not sure about that sexist comment though, I hope it was tongue in cheek!
Fortnight Ish Who gives a shit, women make jokes about men like that and nobody ever bats an eye. It's simply because the focus was on him at the time, suddenly women are up in arms. Boo hoo
Starkey is brilliant. We do have intellectual politicians but they are constrained by elections, he isn't so he can say exactly what he thinks. He has enormous intellect and eats people like the man at 2:40 for breakfast. That man will never go back on a public TV programme again!
@Digger Gardi I'm sorry to read that. When you said you weren't married it seemed to imply you never had a wife, or were at least divorced, rather than a widow. Anyway, I'm sorry about your loss.
@Digger Gardi Thank you for accepting my apology. I was making light of your apparently sexist initial post, but since you have advised me that your wife died last year, I am genuinely sorry for causing any offence, and take back my jibes. I am also sorry for your loss and wish you the best going forward.
I can't believe people were actually annoyed with Starkey over this. The women are offended because he says they think with their hearts? They just want any excuse to dislike him.
