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The Jesus People Movement got its start from a evangelical coffee house in Haight Asbury called The Living Room. Famed Evangelist David Wilkerson came from New York City to interview the hippie preachers, but was disgusted to learn they were smoking weed, were seemingly nonchalant about LSD, yet preaching about Jesus Christ. Wilkerson was able to dry up The Living Room's funding by drawing attention to the drug-friendly lifestyle of these early Jesus People, Ted Wise and Steve Heefner (locally famous as the hippie friendly radio disc jockey moniker "Steve O'Shea"). The movement would spread and become known for founding contemporary worship music, denominations like Calvary Chapel and The Vineyard Churches, and allowing more of a contemporary approach to worship services.
Detailed account of the encounter in this video is found in Larry Eskridge's God's Forever Family (Oxford University Press, see page 44).
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"KTVU News footage from December 7th 1967 featuring a live debate in San Francisco's Haight-Ashbury district between Reverend David Wilkerson and four more 'radical' preachers (two are later referred to as "Ted and Steve"), which attempts to focus on the issue of religion and hallucinogenic drugs. However, Wilkerson's first question after the clapperboard is confrontational: "From what I hear, you fellas seem to be telling these young people that they can have Christ and still have their LSD, have their pot." The four men immediately take umbrage with his line of questoning and retort: "You haven't been listening!" One of them goes on to address the camera and claims: "You know what this guy told us? He told us that this wasn't rigged. That he was going to give us a straight interview of some kind. And he's deliberately loaded his questions to stimulate a reaction from us, instead of ask what we think." This lively, spontaneous, free-form debate illustrates how different styles of ministry can generate frustration and confusion amongst parties who claim to share the same goals. Wilkerson is adamant that: "You cannot enter the kingdom of God and still smoke pot and take LSD. You can't do it!" Everyone else is trying to steer the debate in a different direction. Eventually many people move into the shot from all over the room and Wilkerson is obliged to admit "We gotta wrap up." Afterwards, reporter Claud Mann interviews "Dan" who points out that what we've just witnessed is essentially a failure to communicate. Ends with views of Mann interviewing Wilkerson on the street, who explains why he feels so angry about the issue of drugs: "I'm tired of these Bob Dylan preachers ... that's the trouble with Haight Ashbury. We need more ministers down there preaching that these kids can clean up. They aren't cleaning up anybody." He goes on to explain the problem he sees with "permissive" attitudes in his latest book 'Parents on Trial: Why Kids Go Wrong - Or Right'. Note that Mann refers to it as "Why Our Children Go Wrong or Right?""
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@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 2 года назад
On the original video source, David Hoyt, a JP movement guy from the Haight in the 60s said the following: "Two Years Later Wilkerson is preaching at Anaheim Christian Center Dan Pauly was in attendance and heard Wilkerson makes a confession about his attitude toward hippies who claimed to be Christians. A paraphrase of his comments: I was angry about long-haired hippie-types claiming to be Christians. I assumed they were most likely still using LSD and smoking pot and not cleaning up and conforming to mainstream society. I thought if they were really Christians their appearance should reflect what church people look like. I was wrong. My spiritual tradition blinded me to what God was doing. I wouldn’t even listen to those who were trying to explain me what they believed and practiced." source: diva.sfsu.edu/collections/sfbatv/bundles/220932
@karenwinona204
@karenwinona204 2 года назад
Thank you for adding this ..We All fall short daily repent and you are forgiven . Dave learned a lot and grew a lot . 💞
@cookiemama4
@cookiemama4 2 года назад
The only think David Wilkerson was guilty of was judging people, based on their hair and clothes, their appearance. David Wilkerson and his preaching has set thousands of young people free from drugs. His life is a Testament of what he believed in. There's no place for drugs in the body of Christ.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 2 года назад
@@cookiemama4 thanks for the reply
@karenwinona204
@karenwinona204 2 года назад
@@JesusPeopleSF I grew up in those day's . I knew who David Wilkerson was ..I was young and foolish ..i was drawn to David sermons 10 years ago . A voice in the wilderness . He preached in the alley's of New York he had to have his Armour on tight .. T hats why I think he was so hard on hippies . im so glad you posted this .. David Wilkerson was such a passionate man for Jesus .. Love all his messages . God Bless your Ministry .
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 2 года назад
@@karenwinona204 thanks for sharing your experience and for the well wishes
@josephthomas2226
@josephthomas2226 4 месяца назад
thank God I had a friend 45 years ago who was patient with me, but also did not water down God's word. I drank, took drugs, slept with women. My friend didn't condemn me, but taught me about Jesus. We talked about repentance before I became a Christian, but he didn't START there. He showed me Jesus. I gave up all of the sin before I was saved, but it was an 18 month process before I was ready to do that. If the hippies had told me that I could keep doing drugs, I never would have become a Christian. If someone like Wilkerson got in my face about my drug use, I never would have become a Christian. Thank God for my friend Rob, who taught me Jesus first, then repentance, then I became a disciple of Jesus. He took his time with me, because I needed it. 45 years later, I am still faithful, still preaching the word of God.
@NSNCNB
@NSNCNB 3 месяца назад
Beautiful. I am Muslim. I like your comment and acceptance of God ❤
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 3 месяца назад
thanks for the feedback
@richardoles1124
@richardoles1124 3 месяца назад
@@josephthomas2226 ...beautiful.
@1rocktostandon
@1rocktostandon 2 года назад
Jesus meets people where they’re at and it’s Jesus who takes the sin away if the conversion is real and true.
@Brucev7
@Brucev7 Год назад
With, Repentance, a Changed heart, then a witnessed, Changed Life
@justtruth8310
@justtruth8310 6 месяцев назад
Jesus meets them where they are at but does not leave them where they are at!
@christienamosley2799
@christienamosley2799 2 года назад
I don't think I've ever seen such a gentler group of arguers 😅 😅
@IamGreatsword
@IamGreatsword Год назад
One is not dissipated the others are stoned and preaching perverted communism and they are stoned.
@IamGreatsword
@IamGreatsword Год назад
Plus they are stoned on the devil's lettuce.
@IamGreatsword
@IamGreatsword Год назад
Did I mention they were stoned.
@thomasdykstra100
@thomasdykstra100 Год назад
@@IamGreatsword , don't you remember?
@alstroemeria227again4
@alstroemeria227again4 Год назад
@@IamGreatsword the devils lettuce! 😂 I’ve never heard it put that way.
@wadeh777
@wadeh777 Год назад
I've never seen Wilkerson so young lol. One of my heros in the faith for sure
@kellyjobarr
@kellyjobarr Год назад
When I was 20 going into 21 and first RE-accepted Christ as my Savior, my life didn't change in the aspect of drinking, doing drugs, smoking, and having sex. The only thing that changed was that I started reading the Bible. It was from there that God started chanting me from the INSIDE! And when He said it was time to stop those things, I stopped.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF Год назад
Thanks for the comment. I’ve been pruning the comments that don’t take into account the brevity of these believer’s walks
@sidv192
@sidv192 Год назад
Same here, I was high as a kite when I first read the Bible in the late 70s. That lasted about two weeks before Christ told me it was time to stop all drugs. Thank God for those Jesus people or I never would have came near a church w/pastors like Wilkerson in the pulpit. You will know them by their LOVE.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF Год назад
@@sidv192 Really encouraged by your comment Sidney. Just an FYI, Wilkerson spent much time on the streets evangelizing and started a multisite rehab for teens to get off drugs. I think Wilkerson would like to do this scene over again differently if he could.
@kennethmeeker6369
@kennethmeeker6369 Год назад
One step at a time
@dancochrane617
@dancochrane617 Год назад
God catches His fish before He cleans them. Same thing happened to me and is still happening. Praise the Lord. Watching and waiting for His return
@edwardjensen4073
@edwardjensen4073 Год назад
It's amazing what we think and believe from one day to the next as all of these men did. Isn't it wonderful that God's love never changes?
@ironlion805
@ironlion805 2 года назад
This interview and a subsequent acid trip led these guys to eventually give up lsd and pot. The older generation didn’t know how to pastor these people. They were trying to do something new and needed guidance, not condemnation. Such clarity by the last guy being interviewed. ☝🏼 One Way!
@oldman9843
@oldman9843 2 года назад
I always said we should help people get saved and let Jesus clean them up. It's liked when I got saved I was fighting using drugs and all I heard about was my long hair. Don't ever compromise the Word but don't beat people up with it either, most sinners know how bad they are they just don't know about the forgiveness.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 2 года назад
Thanks for the comment!
@theywillknowbandcook1279
@theywillknowbandcook1279 Год назад
Amen!
@yochg911
@yochg911 Год назад
love David... love... bring em' in ....but when some people were meeting Jesus on drugs we had to bring them in... Jesus took me in a vision and saved me when I was on acid! I am a living testimony 52 years later!!!
@SFBeisser
@SFBeisser Год назад
Right on! One Way!
@tarheelphenom
@tarheelphenom Год назад
I wanna share part of my testimony here. I say part because all of it would be way too long. Anyway, before I came to saving faith in Jesus Christ on July 11th, 2004(age 28), I was immersed in the hip hop culture/lifestyle. Because my father left us when I was a young child, and because I didn't know who I was and WHOSE I was, I lacked identity. When you don't know who you are, and you don't have true identity, you go looking for it. I found it in the hip hop culture. My view of the world, my speech, my style of dress, my behavior was all shaped from that. That became my identity. I wore my clothes the same way everybody else in that culture did...I wore my pants sagging, I had an earring in both ears. I word the hairstyles of that day. I spoke the same language/slang as everyone else did, which consisted of a lot of vulgarity, profanity, and words that my elders barely understood. I had my own life's philosophy, I was basically my own god. By by the grace, mercy, and love of God, my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ saved me on that date above. I didn't grow up in church like that, so everything was basically from scratch. A lady from the job that I was working at, who the Lord used mightily in pointing me to Christ, bought me my first Bible and that's where I began. One of the first things the Holy Spirit did in me was change my speech....the profane language. Nobody had to tell me to pull up my pants and remove my earrings because the Holy Spirit led me to do that. I was no longer of the world and as the Lord was doing the work on me inside, my outside was confirming. I want to also make sure I say this too. I went through the over-zealous self-righteous stage as well. Still being a babe in Christ a couple of years in, and desiring to see other people be saved and experience what the Lord had done in me, I went through a stage where I was really judgmental and lacked grace when I wasn't seeing it in other people either as quickly as I wanted to or at all. I was very immature and self-righteous. But, God is good, and He is just, and He DISCIPLINES those that He loves...and as a good Father does, He had to humble me. And it's a great lesson that I learned and have taken with me through life, especially when it comes to witnessing to people. When i witness now, there is no focus on the outside appearance for me. My focus is the Gospel and the heart of that person. If that person gets truly saved, then the Holy Spirit WILL do the work. We have to get out of the way and let Him do it. We can do that while still preaching the truth and loving them at the same time. The absolute LAST thing you want to do is CRUSH the spirit of a babe in Christ. We have to remember that disciples make disciples and the process of sanctification is INSIDE OUT and not OUTSIDE IN. Thank you for sharing this video.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF Год назад
Thanks for the thoughtful comment. Have a good day
@kristinesmart582
@kristinesmart582 Год назад
Wow! Thanks for sharing your story. Very wise words and now you certainly are a mature Christian. You have a wonderful humility - definitely imitating Christ's example that He gave us. Keep the faith and following Christ. God Bless!
@annettedorman7377
@annettedorman7377 Год назад
Thank you, this is my story in so many ways, you put it in the right words, I'm sure by listening that You are led by the Holy Spirit. Praying all do this, time is short. God bless you
@joelcaldwell4852
@joelcaldwell4852 Год назад
Amen and amen!
@williamwoods3156
@williamwoods3156 Год назад
Great testimonial. It's His Grace we are dependent upon
@leticiamcclure
@leticiamcclure Год назад
Where are the David Wilkersons of today!! Great man Amazing preacher!!
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF Год назад
Amen. Where are they indeed. I think Romans 1 has the answer
@josephmacias8340
@josephmacias8340 Год назад
We have to preach and share the gospel in truth BUT it’s the HOLY SPIRIT who brings the Convictions
@truthinchrist3001
@truthinchrist3001 Год назад
What is the Gospel, define the word?
@josephmacias8340
@josephmacias8340 Год назад
@@truthinchrist3001 the gospel isn’t a word but the story of the Life Crucifixion and Ressurection of Jesus Christ for our sins!
@truthinchrist3001
@truthinchrist3001 Год назад
@@josephmacias8340 Why don't you just answer. Is it because you are not being dishonest. Just be truthful and say you don't know. It is the Proclamation of The Word of God made Flesh who came to earth to personally reveal God's Holy Word. John 1 Jesus Christ was and IS The Word and it is only by His Word for which someone can be saved. The Word of God Is the power unto salvation. It is how we discern the counterfeit vs the truth. Shame on you for not caring for what The Lord has spoken. Read John 3 19-21 if you have ears to hear.
@sisterbecky411
@sisterbecky411 2 года назад
Sometimes we can’t think right off hand..I’m sure if Pastor could have thought for second he would have said that yes we all sin but true lovers of Jesus don’t do it willingly! When we do it breaks our heart too. David lived his life trying to help those addicted to drugs and alcohol and he did not even have to deal with it himself but had a heart for those that did. There will surely be many stars in his crown 🙌
@bobr2959
@bobr2959 Год назад
Right! I kept thinking David ,tell them willfully sinning after conversion is not in Line with Gods grace or truth. You should not willfully sin. Sins must be confessed as in 1 john 1:9. God will work on your sin issues and thats called sanctification over your life time.
@tmo4330
@tmo4330 Год назад
@@bobr2959 It's not just the fact of smoking pot. It was illegal. Romans 13:1. Titus 3:1.
@garygiff2024
@garygiff2024 Год назад
David Wilkerson was not chosen by God but was another self chosen like the other mutitudes over the last 5 generations!
@tmo4330
@tmo4330 Год назад
@@garygiff2024 Name a few that you consider "chosen by God".
@JayReacio
@JayReacio Год назад
There’s a massive difference between sinning and endorsing that sin
@petehaggard8539
@petehaggard8539 Год назад
I love david Wilkerson, but I also love the Jesus People!! Also those were not key leaders of the. Movement, it would have been different if he interviewed them. I also believe both parties were wrong in this interview, David’s sin was one of not seeking to Understand, but accusing and judging the cleanliness of the outside of the cup. The other crew was trying to correct him that Sin is in the heart, and much of Gods attention is on the Sins of the Heart. So if your judging harshly if I smoke pot, but you judge harshly, condemn, envy, gossip, pride, or slander, that is also a grievous sin in Gods eyes. They both could have learned immensely from one another if they could have sat down and simply discussed to hear and understand one another. I believe that’s where David was wrong. He was right in what he was speaking, but he didn’t get the fruit of the correction he was bringing because he was bringing it to attack them and discount them rather than to encourage and exhort them.
@petehaggard8539
@petehaggard8539 Год назад
Thankfully I just read the top pinned comment. Praise God
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF Год назад
Hi I definitely appreciate your comment above most everyone else’s. You really thought this through biblically
@freddynz
@freddynz 2 года назад
this is classic example of why churches are slow to accept revivals... the Holy Spirit goes out and reaches a community of unreached ppls... and they are different, so do we accept what God is doing or do we require it 1st to fit into our mold! the Gospel in its purest form reaches everyone but we so often want to wrap it into our cultural norms and present it as a whole package.... yes you can be saved but you must 1st dress and act like us..... the very society the hippies wanted to get away from.... the love of money and the dog eat dog rat race of capitalism! both sides were right....yes drug use is sinful and so is the love of money. ... but only God brings that conviction at His time and gives you the power to hand it over.... Jesus said My yoke is easy and my burden is light.... Thats what Grace is for, it covers the multitude of times you fall into sin and fall over !
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 2 года назад
Thanks for the comment. Some good points here.
@happy777abc
@happy777abc Год назад
Yes that Grace is for all of us. But so is God's justice and we are not to go on living in our sin and preaching like it's perfectly fine and then corrupting others in that sin. And that's what these happy men were doing by saying it's okay to do LSD get high etc etc and just talk about God's grace. Because of God's grace Paul says heaven forbid I take advantage of it the Bible tells us to run from sin run like fast like crazy screaming fast run from sin. And that's for everyone. If the men needed help that's fine but they shouldn't be leader shouldn't have been leaders telling people especially the youth of America that this is okay. And that's what David wilkerson's concern was David started teen challenge by the grace and mercy of God which are programs around the world look it up if you don't know it that have helped for decades hopeless desperate drug addicts that had no hope in life and would have been damned to eternal hell because they weren't saved and they couldn't help themselves.
@LloydsofRochester
@LloydsofRochester Год назад
The Jesus people had some good points and he wasn't listening. He was hung up on something they clearly told him they didn't teach. He was there for an argument, not a discussion and he wouldn't listen. Shame on him. He was not judging rightly. That guy afterward understood them and what was true and explained it well. God changed me from the inside through the conviction of the holy Spirit. If somebody had lectured me on trying to make instant change and pretend that I had matured when I had not yet, it would have driven me away from Jesus. It's rare that anybody is instantly delivered from addiction. It takes time. AA understands the whole process a whole lot better than David did at that time. David should have 12-stepped himself. I'm glad that two years later he had also grown spiritually and learned where he had been wrong. Sadly, there are still Christians who make the same mistake that he did in this interview.
@hiptoalieu
@hiptoalieu Год назад
Completely agree...it's a process, so thankful for all the thriving Celebrate Recovery ministries in the world today!!
@robcallicotte5786
@robcallicotte5786 Год назад
I didn't see them explain anything clearly and definitely lacked respect to their older. Someone told David Wilkerson something and he was attempting to find out if they believed it. Sounds like they didn't want to be clear and that is how it's gone since Adam and Eve.
@cisuminocisumino3250
@cisuminocisumino3250 Год назад
I agree with what the Jesus people were saying if I understand them correctly, however, I can't blame Wilkerson for the way he reacted, there was Communication break down because they were not clear about what it is they believe exactly. they weren't exactly 100percent clear on whether or not they preach Jesus but still encourage people to sin.
@robcallicotte5786
@robcallicotte5786 Год назад
@@cisuminocisumino3250, may be. Glad it all worked out with everything Jesus did with it all. Something to learn. Thanks for your understanding.
@brianmurphy3538
@brianmurphy3538 Год назад
That was very inspiring to see this conversation. It reminds be that being a Christian is a historical experience and the conversations we have now are not much different then back then and even before this!
@js5584
@js5584 Год назад
Man, us Christians sure are good at fighting with each other. David Wilkerson was a great man of God, and God also worked powerfully in the Jesus People movement.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 3 месяца назад
thanks for the comment
@maguinguyen767
@maguinguyen767 Год назад
Would love to see the full interview without it being censored at the end. I believe those impacted in the Jesus Movement are still on fire and many in ministry until today. Many were in the process of sanctification during this video, as we all are day to day. Praise God for His Holy Spirit that makes all things possible through Christ
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF Год назад
You’ll have to wait for glory because that is the full video as it was provided to me
@lastchance8142
@lastchance8142 Год назад
What happens to the flesh when we are saved? Is it changed? Is it made perfect? Is it EVER made perfect? The new creation is not in the flesh, it is in the spirit. Afterwards, as we cooperate with the Holy Spirit and mortify the flesh, we grow in Sanctification. How rare, how amazing is it that anyone conquers the flesh completely. I know of only three. Enoch, Elijah, and the LORD Jesus.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF Год назад
This video made it into the Jesus Revolution movie, it's only played in the background in one of the scenes.
@Garethpookykins
@Garethpookykins Год назад
I feel like them getting David to admit that he also sins was the most important part of that whole conversation.
@brianmgrim
@brianmgrim Год назад
GW: There’s a lot of simplistic reduction going on in your statement. There are sins of infirmity and then there are willful sins. If they had MaryJ in their basement, how were they mortifying the flesh or making no provision for the flesh? They were trying to justify their willful sins by using category error against David W. here.
@Garethpookykins
@Garethpookykins Год назад
@@brianmgrim It didn’t come across to me like they were trying to justify their sin. It looked to me that David was disqualifying them as Christian’s because of one particular sin in their lives while calling himself a Christian despite also having sin in his life. They picked up on what David was doing and threw his own judgement back at him. Effectively saying if they can’t be true Christians then neither can David. Plus, the pinned comment shows that David had a change of heart not long after in how he viewed hippies.
@catalinak6320
@catalinak6320 Год назад
@@Garethpookykins church on sunday- L.s.d. on monday.- and they promoted it. follwers of timothy leary. they are justifying their sinfull life- they dont beleive that their drugs are part of a sinfulll life. they beleive jesus approves of it.....kind of like the lgbt gay christians.- they beleive that god affirms their homosexuality. same thing happening here.
@Garethpookykins
@Garethpookykins Год назад
@@catalinak6320 Aah I see. Thanks for sharing more of the context. If that’s what they were doing and promoting then it certainly changes my perspective with respect to the conversation in the video; In that case David was right to call them out. Although, in that video they didn’t seem to try an assert that Christ approves of their drug use.
@1Peter2_15
@1Peter2_15 Год назад
I really like what is explained at 6:26 . I watched Jesus Revolution yesterday, and this comes really timely in providing historical perspective as well as social perspective on drug addiction (which is so much relevant today). I was saved 2.5 years ago, and I have listened to a lot of David Wilkerson's videos. The argument stems from the flesh. One side (righteous but still anger) is accusing the other side is becoming defensive. Also, I recently watched UnMiracle, and it clearly showed a kid who grew up in a Christian family and almost died from overdose. So there are lot of saved Christians who go to church and who fall out, but the good news is that they can be forgiven once they repent and can go back.
@scrimmerman
@scrimmerman Год назад
AMEN Brother! The part you reference here is spot on. As a former saved by grace weed addict, I couldn't have put it better. I think that Wilkerson here was totally disregarding the ongoing process of "SANCTIFICATION' once someone has made a commitment to Christ. For some drug addicts it's instant, not so much for others. It's the REPENTANCE from it that matters. BOTH sides had sin in there lives as we ALL do. Not to take anything away from his work for Christ; but IMHO, Wilkerson, and too many others get stuck in this 'RELIGIOSITY' and can't see the Holy Spirit working in other people's lives because they expect them to see everything from their view as far as the FLESH struggling against the SPIRIT. Every single believer on God's green Earth has that same struggle, but it's different for everyone. I believe this was the guys point that kept asking Wilkerson if he sinned.
@sigmanocopyrightmusic8737
@sigmanocopyrightmusic8737 Год назад
@@scrimmerman Jesus revolution is a false movie
@robcallicotte5786
@robcallicotte5786 Год назад
daily trust...helps to read what Jesus said as well as the apostles in the new covenant and even the old covenant prophets. The Bible's words are magically powerful and can feed us to trust him when nothing else and no else gets us. God bless.
@donblosser8720
@donblosser8720 Год назад
@@sigmanocopyrightmusic8737 If you don't say why it's false then you are just engaging in pointless slander.
@robcallicotte5786
@robcallicotte5786 Год назад
@Annamarie Stearns, good one. Yes, I agree - Jesus on the inside by the Holy Spirit show such fruit ("love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faith, meekness, self-mastery"), because we live the canon of a new creation in Christ.
@ibear2554
@ibear2554 Год назад
Wow. I think this is a prime example of how people will know you care before they care what you know. I love David Wilkerson and I think the Jesus People really loved the Lord. This is hard to watch.
@richardoles1124
@richardoles1124 Год назад
Thank-you David Pebbles for that info. We are all learners.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 3 месяца назад
thanks
@lukechristwalker
@lukechristwalker Год назад
Reminds me of my early Christian days. I remember telling the person who led me to the Lord that I was NOT ...then I gave a long list of what I thought church people did...going to do such and such. After each emphatic person, the person smiled and said, "That's OK, you don't have to, but you're going to want to." And so it was. We are changed from glory to glory.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF Год назад
Hello, it is wonderful when Christ does it all.
@lukechristwalker
@lukechristwalker Год назад
@@JesusPeopleSF Amen. There are those who are transformed by Him, and there are those who imitate Him. The former is a work of the Spirit, while the later is often a mere imitation. As a baby Christian I could only imitate, and it was not genuine, but sincere. Some seem not to get beyond this baby stage, never understanding the reality of Christ IN you.
@daisyreyes3256
@daisyreyes3256 3 года назад
I wonder what he would say now as we are seeing all the Lord gave him then come more of a reality now than ever before God help us and have mercy on us. Oh brother wilkerson you are so greatly missed 😢 but we know one day we will meet you in person and thats gonna be awesome 8f of course we remember but cant wait to see our master face to face for He is God Almighty 💖
@captainn2094
@captainn2094 Год назад
I love the Cross and the Switchblade movie
@MyPhilemon6site
@MyPhilemon6site Год назад
As long as the Holy Spirit allows us to have breath in our lungs we are being processed into the image of His Son…. “Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God” 1 Corinthians 4:5
@rand5
@rand5 Год назад
amen
@garygiff2024
@garygiff2024 Год назад
You are lying !
@maxmateush7090
@maxmateush7090 Год назад
David Wilkerson was a godly man zealous for Jesus.
@thereseac4857
@thereseac4857 Год назад
Is this the hippie movement that Chuck Smith started and I agree with Wilkerson if you’re in Christ and he satisfies your so I don’t think you would want to do drugs and or alcohol. Only Jesus can satisfy those cravings and longings.
@padillas4357
@padillas4357 Год назад
Yes, it is, and continues to this day through Calvary Chapel. The description that is for this video explains it quite well.
@armandodatuin2164
@armandodatuin2164 Год назад
It's not chuck smith who started it, the one who started it is LONNIE FRISBEE....sadly he backslided later and died of AIDS
@padillas4357
@padillas4357 Год назад
@@armandodatuin2164 Chuck is the one who put the Charismatic movement in high gear. He split from the Four Square church after accepting an unbiblical prophecy about his name being changed to Papa. It was his creation of Calvary Chapel that made this Hippie Jesus movement such a wide spread phenomenon, with the help of a few others.
@armandodatuin2164
@armandodatuin2164 Год назад
@@padillas4357 nah ...chuck smith was the one hindered the working of Holy Spirit during Jesus people movement...he didn't believe in tounges, slain in the spirit, working in signs and wonders....his ministry was dry before lonnie came.....what could of been if he let the Holy Spirit do the rest back then.....
@padillas4357
@padillas4357 Год назад
@@armandodatuin2164 Well, I am not a fan of Chuck, but the Charismatics do believe in the gifts of the Spirit. It's just that they are all wrong in their beliefs and practice. I say this as a Pentecostal. Calvary Chapel was a pioneer in the Charismatic movement, and later on there was a split that created the Hyper Charismatic movement with the Vineyard. These are all emotional and experience driven, and not Biblically sound. Greg Laurie did an interview where he talks about Lonnie. He left Calvary Chapel in the early days. Greg and Chuck were there with Lonnie when he died of AIDS. So it was Chuck, and Calvary Chapel, that really gave the Jesus People movement traction. That is what the movie they made is really about. According to the reviews and interviews, it looks like a nostalgic trip for the Boomers, and gives excuses and cover-up for sin.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 2 года назад
One thing no one who has commented on this video is the socioeconomic aspect of criticisms the Living Room ministers raised. How, indeed, do we say we can own an innumerable amount of things and dollars and truly preach "sell your possessions give to the poor, come follow me" and "blessed are the poor" (no qualification of that last statement by Jesus).
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 2 года назад
The ministers being hounded by Wilkerson in the video lived communally, and shared what they had with any in need.
@liasunshine7470
@liasunshine7470 Год назад
Wilkerson died with a 7,000,0000 net worth. Most people are commenting on here are too well versed and steeped in a works based Gospel. The way is narrow indeed by Grace & Blood. This video shows the exact distinction between the real Gospel and a self righteous Gospel. This video has really blessed me as im battling in my conscious between the 2 and have discovered that the church I love very much teaches a works based gospel. It's really disturbing me.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF Год назад
@@liasunshine7470 Thank you very much for the reply. If you look at some of the other comments pinned you will see that Wilkerson eventually regreted that he responded this way. As regard to Wilkerson‘s wealth I believe that the Scriptures certainly do not condemn wealth itself 100% of the time, but it does seem to greatly warn about its danger. I think most Christians today have mostly ignored the warnings of the danger of wealth, and the fruitless Christianity that they live is evidence to why it is dangerous
@liasunshine7470
@liasunshine7470 Год назад
He may have repented but did he ever really listen? Or go a step further and reform his perspective on Grace IE believe it is what God says it is. I don't think he did considering his sermons briming with hellfire and a near obsession with sin instead of the Savior. It's truely a problem because with this perspective it greatly effects the way you teach the Bible to others and will likely lead to closed doors instead of open hearts.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF Год назад
@@liasunshine7470 well in order to answer that I think you would need to be God and have a window into his heart. Personally I think that the window for much repenting on the part of lost people is nearly closed. When that happens only threatening the judgment of God seems just and right, Just like Jeremiah
@gregoryrobertson2806
@gregoryrobertson2806 Год назад
I was a convert in the Jesus Movement in 1971, at the age of 21. Before that, I had been a daily drug user for 5 or 6 years. I had been arrested numerous times for possession and for public intoxication. That being said, I do not believe these guys are good representatives of the Jesus Movement. After I became Christian I would not even take an aspirin. I knew many Jesus People and none of them continued to take drugs. We had a new life in Christ and that life did not include continuing to take drugs. We saw the destructive power of drugs and loved our freedom from them. From some of the things these kids said, honestly, they sounded more like communists than Jesus People. I wonder where those who continued to take drugs are today.
@robcallicotte5786
@robcallicotte5786 Год назад
Thank you. What we're seeing there is the heart of Babylon - to create division among God's children. May God intervene.
@andrewdahl4123
@andrewdahl4123 2 года назад
I don’t know that these hippies preached one can live however they want and still follow Jesus, maybe they were a work in progress, we need messed up people to come to our churches just as long as we all give our mess to the Lord and let him cleanse us and make us new people! We don’t stay in our mess.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 2 года назад
They were indeed a work in progress. Thanks for the comment.
@ianfrancis777
@ianfrancis777 5 месяцев назад
RU-vid just asked me to rate your channel 1-5 stars. You got *****. (I'm tired of the way they jerk about Christian channels, so hope this helps in a small way).
@brucegrayson7993
@brucegrayson7993 22 дня назад
It's called grace. It's not earned, Christ first, follow, and He will cleanse you over time.
@wildflower815
@wildflower815 Год назад
When Jesus saves you right from the start you want to please him and change from your old self. When Jesus saves you there will be a change....Jesus said go and sin no more.
@JDawghasaTruck
@JDawghasaTruck Год назад
Context; this took place in 1967 with specific people at a specific location. The new Jesus Revolution movie took place a couple of years later in a different location with different people. The Asbury revival occurred in 1970, they weren’t hippies they were college students from conservative families. I wouldn’t lump it all together.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF Год назад
These were connected events. Lonnie was brought to a closer walk with God in San Francisco with the gentlemen featured in the video. They helped him have a better theological understanding of the gospel and the Bible which led to Lonnie being a more effective evangelist. The Asbury revival of 1970 was connected with the different moves of the Spirit in the late 1960s and early 70s. Revival usually spreads and that’s what happened with Lonnie and the Jesus people and that is what happened with the original Asbury revival.
@JDawghasaTruck
@JDawghasaTruck Год назад
@@JesusPeopleSF my point being that anytime the Holy Spirit moves, no matter where it is, it is connected. I just don’t think the video makes clear the connection.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF Год назад
@@JDawghasaTruck the video doesn’t bring out what God was doing. But it’s the only video record we have of the Living Room ministry in the Haight where the JP movement started
@julsrique9148
@julsrique9148 Год назад
Wilkinson is absolutely right, that was coming, liberalism, the only possible argument is that many preachers wear expensive clothes and it should not be like that. But promoting the use of drugs and reading the bible is heretical.
@MarionHurst-ij3yt
@MarionHurst-ij3yt Год назад
Love covers a multitude of sin. Lead them to Jesus and Jesus will clean them up through the Word of God.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 3 месяца назад
thanks for your comment
@OathKeeper1506
@OathKeeper1506 Год назад
Religion says do, Christ says done. The only difference here is organized Christianity wears a suit and tie while ALL are still sinners. Justification: Saved by grace (past tense) Sanctification: process of being made Christ like which takes all of one’s life. (Present tense) Glorification: delivered from sins at death or rapture. (Future tense)
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 3 месяца назад
thanks for the comment
@gohdux
@gohdux Год назад
Does anyone know how the four hippies turned out versus Wilkerson. Time always tells the tale. Just curious.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF Год назад
The some of the hippies are in the Lonnie Frisbee documentary. Ted Wise is in this clip we uploaded. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hLMaUaESB0Y.html
@Revdrum
@Revdrum Год назад
Bro these guys still exist!!!
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF Год назад
Some of them are still around
@matsswede
@matsswede 10 месяцев назад
The hippies are so right !!! Jesus loves us unconditionaly no matter who we are what we do and yes he can touch us and set us free. It is not up to if we have suits or not.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 3 месяца назад
thanks
@albertabenton
@albertabenton Год назад
let the holy spirit be the teacher of the youth, its a new life for these kids and all they know is the old nature, but the lord will lead them and help them with their walk..dave wilkerson want them to cut their hair, put on suits, that dont make you a Christian. its a personal relationship with jesus. yes the youth need good leader to help them.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 3 месяца назад
thanks
@robertjasso6673
@robertjasso6673 Год назад
East coast vs west coast. David is used to NYC these California guys are reflecting their region. Not everyone breaks from their old life the same way or at the same timeline as others. At the same time wheat and disingenuous tares grow up together. David wanted to start sifting right away, like he was standing on the threshing floor. These guys were contending with his take no prisoners approach. Finally, God knows them that are his and we can get some discernment by watching their fruit…character, development of a Christian ethic, behavioral submission to the authority of the Bible s Gods word of final authority.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF Год назад
Interesting perspective. Thanks for the comment
@tylerscott2116
@tylerscott2116 Год назад
Point Blank Period, Salvation Is Free By Faith Alone. If This Guy Is Saying, "Guys what are you saying you can have your sin and have Jesus too? No way" bro it's not what they say, it's what the bible says, Salvation is by Faith Alone In Jesus Christ!
@indigenous31617
@indigenous31617 Год назад
Wilkerson had some good points back in the day. He came across as too angry for some time. After he read the late Reformers he was a bit more gentle conveying his points.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 3 месяца назад
thanks
@Jack-er6wi
@Jack-er6wi Год назад
He debates some* Jesus People. There were PLENTY in the movement who totally threw away all their drugs.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF Год назад
Correct
@danodonnell7218
@danodonnell7218 Год назад
Love covers a multitude of sins.
@teresaterirunningrace4803
@teresaterirunningrace4803 Год назад
He did many great things. Do as all humans we here see flaws. He didn't understand, and he was very hesitant to admit that he sins. This is a great lesson don't hate or be angry with others because they said differently than you do. Open discussion sharpening in questioning is a great thing. The word says iron sharpens.
@samuelrosenbalm
@samuelrosenbalm Год назад
I have to be honest, David was a total pharisee here. Even if everything David believed about those young men were true, he should follow the example of Paul and embrace them as brothers, correcting in love. But instead he just assumes they are all false and enemies of the Gospel. These young hippies are preaching Christ. That's awesome. He should be joyed by that. Then work to help them grow. Accusing is not of God.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 3 месяца назад
thanks for the feedback
@LuisPerez-fy6up
@LuisPerez-fy6up 2 года назад
Accept Jesus is not BIBLICAL!
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 2 года назад
Hi Luis, there were a lot of areas of the Jesus People which carried over from Evangelicalism of the day. Sometimes God uses a bad methodology of evangelism and works anyway. If you're reformed like I think, the Westminster Confession says "God, in His ordinary providence, maketh use of means, yet is free to work without, above, and against them, at His pleasure." (WCF 5.3).
@ralphbuschman3364
@ralphbuschman3364 Год назад
This is a sad thing to see. New believers are trying to talk with a man who seems to be attack mode of these men.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 3 месяца назад
thanks for your comment
@robertgonzalez2811
@robertgonzalez2811 2 года назад
God bless teen challenge Nola
@Zlervo
@Zlervo 3 месяца назад
I wonder what David Wilkerson thought of their meeting with Kathryn Kuhlman.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 3 месяца назад
Why does this matter?
@eheird13ec
@eheird13ec Год назад
The fact that it took him that long to admit that he was a sinner and tells me everything I need to know about this gentleman.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 3 месяца назад
thanks for the comment
@brucegrayson7993
@brucegrayson7993 22 дня назад
Not of works lest any should boast
@vivianday3610
@vivianday3610 Год назад
Yes, I noticed that.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF Год назад
The main Jesus People veteran in this clip, Ted Wise, responds to this scene here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hxE1R8O9wiM.html
@kingdomlifewjamie9487
@kingdomlifewjamie9487 Год назад
This is an example of flawed preachers. Period. The Jesus People made more sense.
@hiptoalieu
@hiptoalieu Год назад
ACTUALLY yes...but, continuing to do damaging things to your body which according to the Bible is the Holy Temple where The Holy Spirit dwells inside of all beleivers who have believed and confessed IS still a sin, NOW if I could time-travel I would have conducted this interview in an entirely different way... Joined a praise/jam session first, grabbed some coffee with them, exerted them for the positive evangelism they were doing, and THEN, asked to chat with them about Santification, and Discipleship.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF Год назад
@@hiptoalieu wilkerson kind of plowed his way through the interview. Your approach is closer to the truth
@VictorianMaid99
@VictorianMaid99 2 года назад
Amazing interview, do what you preach, I meet these guys when I lived in California in the 1980's. I wonder what happened to them?
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 2 года назад
Some have passed, a few still live in Northern California.
@liasunshine7470
@liasunshine7470 Год назад
Idk where they are but David Wilkerson died with a net worth of $7,000,000 dollars. Jesus had alot to say about sinners and more to say about rich men.
@VictorianMaid99
@VictorianMaid99 Год назад
@@liasunshine7470 I think they get this because of the MEGA church he had in Times Square.
@living_m2414
@living_m2414 Год назад
@@JesusPeopleSF who still lives in norcal? I want to meet them
@living_m2414
@living_m2414 Год назад
@@JesusPeopleSF also, do u know the address of what used to be The Living Room? I want to see the area, pray in front of it etx
@antoinepetros9336
@antoinepetros9336 2 года назад
Do you know the names of any of these men, and whether or not they're still preaching?
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 2 года назад
Ted Wise is still alive, I think the others have mostly passed. He was interviewed a few years ago here: jesuspeoplemovement.com/interviews/ted-wise-1-of-2-2/
@antoinepetros9336
@antoinepetros9336 2 года назад
@@JesusPeopleSF Thank you. I recall seeing something about them repenting of acid use after a bad trip?
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 2 года назад
@@antoinepetros9336 I don’t know of a video where they say that, but it is in the best Jesus People history book called God‘s Forever Family.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 2 года назад
@@antoinepetros9336 I recorded my own reply to this video where I read the section of that book that describes their change of mind.
@antoinepetros9336
@antoinepetros9336 2 года назад
@@JesusPeopleSF Cool i'll look for it thank you
@katarinanomadian737
@katarinanomadian737 Год назад
Was this film recorded before David Wilkerson was saved? Or why did he not share the true Gospel with these unsaved men, who had valid questions from their ungenerated and fleshly perspective? And why did D. Wilkerson have such a hard time admitting, that he too was a sinner relying on the redemptive work of Christ for salvation?
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF Год назад
It is easier than you realize to be pharisaical even if you are born again.
@happy777abc
@happy777abc Год назад
David walks in didn't have a hard time realizing that he was a sinner. If you knew his ministry over the many many years and you knew the man you would know that. David Wilson was righteously angry because these hippie guys were preaching it's okay to do LSD smoke podcast high and the kids of that generation were going to look up to them. And David spent years getting kids off the street kids were hopeless drug addicts alcoholics he started teen challenges all over the country they're still going and his heart was deeply grieved that these influential people were saying yeah man find god let's do some lst. That is not the Gospel of Jesus Christ and that's the message that David Wilkerson was bringing. To go intentionally do LSD he's very different from having a sin in your flesh of let's say rage that came down through generations that you are seeking God for deliverance and healing for and that you're being held accountable for that you want rooted out of your life and you want delivered from. Those two are very different things. David Wilkerson knows full while he's a sinner saved by grace but he's not running out intentionally performing sinful acts and then telling people all over the country hey this is cool do this. And yes I know he's passed on now. He's with the lord.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF Год назад
@@happy777abc I appreciate the tact you took. Most people bitter against these bretheren for their drug use are hurling condemnation at them, but you were respectful. Thanks.
@Steryjen
@Steryjen Год назад
In JESUS Christ word in KJV Bible sayth My ppl “Come out of the world sayth the LORD 🕊😇🙏🏽🙇🏽‍♀️🌹🕊
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF Год назад
Hello, if you are trying to quote the KJV from memory, it's not an exact quote. I think you're references 2 Cor 6:17 "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you."
@callieford2228
@callieford2228 Год назад
Law vs Grace
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 3 месяца назад
thanks for the comment
@nomadiclyf7221
@nomadiclyf7221 2 года назад
I see sinners and a pharisee here (that illustrates the spectrum of the church). Christ would sit with the sinners and eat (Matthew 9:10-17). I think it's very telling that it took so long for David to admit his fallen nature on Camara (I'm sure He has been humbled adequatly since, if he has allowed God to continually work in his life). I don't think David realized (at the time, at least) the aire of piety that was exhibited to those watching this. We are all broken, none is perfect (no not one, but Christ!). We are made perfect in the eyes of God once we accept the Grace of salvation but the flesh still needs to be cleaned our. That is a process that takes time, and if one is truly saved that process only BEGINS with the Grace and Mercy (once accepted). Beware not to judge least you be judged. If the Spirit is really in the "Jesus People" than they will be lead (by the spirit) of what to turn from first in order to allow the Great Potter (pun intended, sorry 😁) to complete His work in them and us. Reaching out to those without hope is what we are meant to do. If the "Jesus People" are doing that alone I see no fault in that (the Holy Spirit, I'm certain has moved by the works that they started). (I especially liked hearing from the gentleman AFTER the "interview/debate". Great video.
@nomadiclyf7221
@nomadiclyf7221 2 года назад
@@stumpbumpers I dont disagree. I don't see how adding the continue versus added anything extra to the context of what I meant to share though. 🤔. To each their own (or maybe just to those who wish to make others their own?) I guess I can thank you for putting a finer point on exactly what was being shared/communicated. None the less Thank you for sharing.
@happy777abc
@happy777abc Год назад
I think the hippie dudes miss the whole point. You don't continue in your sin intentionally. And that's what they were doing and that's what David Wilkerson was deeply concerned about David Walker just spent his life getting gangs and kids off drugs and giving them hope through the gospel and get it through teen challenge through the church at times square and many other provisions that God made through him. These hippie dudes talking about you know it's okay to do LSD and stuff I'm sure killed kids in the '60s and '70s people that will never know about. You don't intentionally go and sin that's different than a root of sin in your flesh.
@jarodcarnarvon5198
@jarodcarnarvon5198 2 года назад
I wonder what year this was? I'm guessing 1969?
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 2 года назад
1968 according to God's Forever Family - the best book on the Jesus Movement.
@claudiopregnolato6211
@claudiopregnolato6211 Год назад
Great topic: "Do you sin? ... yes or not?".... YES YOU DO... hasnt Jesus sayd to go forsake all that you have, ( you preacher ) AND then follw him... And that whoseever doesnt do it cannot be His Disceple?... Do you sin? Yes or Noooo? ... Yes you do! So why do you judge others? Common confess you sins!...
@maryflorence6022
@maryflorence6022 Год назад
Wow...
@superdavetn
@superdavetn 3 месяца назад
David Wilkerson is clearly accusing them of things they did not say. based on the pinned comment, he is clearly projecting his legalistic and false beliefs about them. I dont hear 1 question by David. I've known several pastors who always do that. make accusations about things they know not of, but never ask a question 1.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 3 месяца назад
Wilkerson admitted he was wrong later in life
@maryhollingsworth2856
@maryhollingsworth2856 Год назад
The jesus people did not take lds, but they worked people who still were.
@theywillknowbandcook1279
@theywillknowbandcook1279 Год назад
The hippies are sharing the truth in love. David doesn’t understand the Holy Spirit is the One who changes us.
@theywillknowbandcook1279
@theywillknowbandcook1279 Год назад
@@happy777abc Amen. It is still the Holy Spirit who does the work in us. I’m sure the hippies are not still getting high if they have continued in Christ. No one can become clean and then come to Jesus. But Jesus knows who has truly come to Him and He finished the work He began in them, in us. God is Holy we are to be holy, but it is all glory to the Spirit working in us, often times crying out to the Spirit to help us change because we have tried in our own strength and have failed over and over. The hippie’s question to David was “Do you still sin?” David had to say yes, otherwise he would have been a liar. The Spirit is still working in him as well.
@susanm4665
@susanm4665 Год назад
They didn't seem loving
@yungyucci3877
@yungyucci3877 4 месяца назад
David Wilkerson is right but his heart could be in the wrong place, or he tried to do it his way, should have done it through the Spirit of God.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 3 месяца назад
thanks for the reply
@alexwilson3133
@alexwilson3133 10 месяцев назад
In fairness. I didn’t hear him say yes or no.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 3 месяца назад
thanks for your thoughts
@DavidHooper401
@DavidHooper401 Год назад
I like Wilkerson, but he seems to be wrong here.
@rolandoaponte9062
@rolandoaponte9062 Год назад
David's mistake was to assume these guys represented the Jesus Movement of the day.
@danroberts3585
@danroberts3585 Год назад
And he presumed that their present state in their walk with Christ was going to be their permanent state. We are changed from glory to glory and God is FULLY committed to finishing the work He starts in us. 2 Cor. 3:18, Phi. 1:6. This was not only an issue of judgement on Wilkerson's part, but one of unbelief and ignorance of the Word of God.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 3 месяца назад
thanks
@rolandoaponte9062
@rolandoaponte9062 3 месяца назад
@@danroberts3585 Yes, with humble attitude I gotta admit you are right. We are always a work in progress.
@gerishcolesc5374
@gerishcolesc5374 Год назад
That disgusted black suit guy condemning them reminded me of The Pharisee,standing by himself, prayed thus: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even {smoking pot, etc) like this tax collector..like this tax collector, I fast twice a week; jI give tithes of all that I get.’ But the tax collector, gstanding far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’ I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For neveryone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted' Luke 18:19-14. Salvation is by accepting Yeshua, reading & acting his Words,. People hearts can change...heart can change from the inside out." happened to me, & Saul (Pau NTl). Paul studied the words of God..he went to Jerusalem three years after his conversion"[spend time alone with God in order to effectively receive the Revelation of the COVENANT OF LOVE spent time alone in Arabia." To remind us, that Jesus Chris himself commanded us (like baseball) "seek ye 1st (not second)..."Seek First the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you" Matthew 6:33. In John 3:30-31 "He (Yeshua God the Son) must increase" and I must decrease." We followers must not exalt ourselves or high-above ourselves instead "Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up." Therefore "The One who comes from above is above all. The one who is from the earth belongs to the earth and speaks as one from the earth. The One who comes from heaven is above all.…"
@johnwalterrautenbach1921
@johnwalterrautenbach1921 Год назад
The black suit guy had one of the most successful ministries in the last 70 years. Full of fruit. And he never bought a jet.
@RL-ck8zk
@RL-ck8zk Год назад
I'm a sinner and I love Jesus.
@vinyrd50
@vinyrd50 Год назад
Works righteousness saves no one
@lolawalsh9187
@lolawalsh9187 Год назад
Shame on Wilkerson here.
@coreyherman6530
@coreyherman6530 Год назад
I'm a graduate of TEEN CHALLENGE For 15 months. . I went because of probation , not by choice. . But all the hell.i went throughout that time there made me hate more than before. I found one thought there. Get me out!. Because it's a cult. Noone hears our thoughts. It's there way or no way. He was a terrible preacher. He cares about himself.... I'll never forget.....how he sai...."if you watch t.v. your GOING TO HELL. Pot is a weed . Didn't God great all things. Including snakes. David is a great hearted prick. I hope he is well ...In HIS heaven.
@coreyherman6530
@coreyherman6530 Год назад
I love my lord.....not people like davd .w.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 3 месяца назад
thanks
@MarquezerrrFIGHTFAN
@MarquezerrrFIGHTFAN Год назад
David Wilkerson was a man that was committed to seeing young people set free from addiction.
@cookiemama4
@cookiemama4 5 месяцев назад
He was one of the great men of faith! ✝️
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 3 месяца назад
thanks
@lhcarter
@lhcarter Год назад
These guys were new Christians, it sometimes takes a while to start renewing your mind to the Word of God and to obey God rather than their own desires.
@mountains76
@mountains76 Год назад
Teen challenge helped me in powerful ways
@kornykorhorn
@kornykorhorn Год назад
Awesome
@Frostavid
@Frostavid Год назад
The PROCESS of sanctification is sometimes slower than we think it should be… If acceptance of Christ meant that we must cease from our life of sin immediately, who could be saved? By God’s grace, as we are sanctified by Him, God’s Spirit within will be contrary to our sinful habits. It’s supernaturally natural. I think the recap of the issue given right before the final interview nailed it on the head!
@Spillers72
@Spillers72 2 года назад
In fairness, many hippies who came to Christ and joined the Jesus movement were set free of drugs. So not all Jesus people were "pro drugs".
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF 2 года назад
Thanks for the comment Jay. Agree 100%, I think Jesus strategy with the Jesus People Movement was to limit the damage done by drugs in the hippie movement.
@indigenous31617
@indigenous31617 Год назад
In fact, most weren't.
@scottieshawn4814
@scottieshawn4814 Год назад
I didn't see these guys condemning it and they were "ministers". They are teaching antinomianism which is unbiblical
@johnotto4931
@johnotto4931 Год назад
@@indigenous31617 right and you can find a group you disagree with or have false beliefs in every church
@ChristIsKing270
@ChristIsKing270 Год назад
​@John Otto exactly, & any of us are capable of judging false beliefs of others and be wrong ourselves too! Too much division, not enough discipleship. That's the difference.
@rickkilgore1147
@rickkilgore1147 Год назад
Nicole Brown in all kindness U are wrong.Their were many born again in the JESUS MOVEMENT as I remember The Lord changed many lives,and yes not all of us cut our hair super short and quit wearing blue jeans and why should have we.,however many of us as we saw what Jesus did for us on the cross,let The Holy Spirit work in us and we began to live like NEW CREATURES IN HIM.However like believers today we got tripped up and sinned and ask The Lord to forgive us and he does and we began walking with again.
@katymcdowell1
@katymcdowell1 Год назад
I run a rehab and I agree with David
@garygiff2024
@garygiff2024 Год назад
So you didn,t know David at all ie you never met him in person!
@Themarktokarev
@Themarktokarev Год назад
@@garygiff2024 what does that have to do with anything
@dlullrich6803
@dlullrich6803 Год назад
Draw near to God and he will draw near to you.
@davidspebble
@davidspebble Год назад
David Wilkerson came back to SF about 10 years later to preach on the streets during SOS San Francisco. I was part of that. During a private meeting of the leadership David confessed his sin nature and his need for repentance before we went out. Watching I see why he did that. The years softened Davids heart, and he was going to preach Jesus and let Holy Spirit convict people of sin as they grew in Christ and sanctification
@tmo4330
@tmo4330 Год назад
David was right, it's just that being right isn't popular. Pot was illegal! Romans 13:1. Titus 3:1.
@deb9784
@deb9784 Год назад
T Mo, John 8:7 says: 7 "So when they continued asking him, HE (Jesus) lifted up HIMSELF, and said unto them, he that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." Often when dealing with addicts, transformation takes time. But they were speaking truth and walking in the power of the HOLY SPIRIT!
@tmo4330
@tmo4330 Год назад
@@deb9784 So are you saying it was ok for them to keep doing drugs? John 8:11.
@christianfamilyministriesw5929
Hallelujah! We are always growing. God is not finished with any of us yet. Thank you Lord Jesus for your amazing Grace!
@chrisstevens1156
@chrisstevens1156 9 месяцев назад
Such a sad interview. The doctrine of sinful nature and everyone sins is where David went soft... he lost this interview or witness at.... yes I sin also
@mrs.donohue9569
@mrs.donohue9569 Год назад
That wasn't my experience. I remember people coming forward and sharing how they had flushed all of their drugs the night before. They were laughing and crying at the same time and telling us that they had been set free. I remember times when others would hand over their stash right up on the podium. I'm sure that there were people that came high. I'd bet there are people that come to worship high now and even in the most churchy of churches. But God delivers. I have always respected David Wilkerson and still do. I read everything that he wrote and stood in amazement of how Father worked in and through him. But, it appears to me that he was more interested in creating a 'gotcha moment' here.
@mrs.donohue9569
@mrs.donohue9569 Год назад
The guy being interviewed at 6:46 got it right.
@robcallicotte5786
@robcallicotte5786 Год назад
I saw Mr. Wilkerson in KC in the early 70s and loads of drugs being thrown onto the stage where he preached and many young people committed themselves to Jesus.
@mrs.donohue9569
@mrs.donohue9569 Год назад
@@robcallicotte5786 It was a special time and God was moving in and through people. I was glad to be there. I believe the Spirit used, as He usually does, a wide array of the most unlikely. I believe He does this so that no man can boast. I also think He shares these stories, in the bible and by word of mouth so that each one of us knows however unworthy we are, God is able to love us and use us. Todays sermon at my church today was on Revelation 11:1-14 and it was entitled "The Two Witnesses". The Church will have been taken up before this but they will appear as bold, grubby sack-clothed Prophets and I can't help wondering what many will think or would have thought upon seeing them...We are called to out those that are false prophets but we had better been darn sure our prejudices aren't blinding us and they are truly false before we do so.
@alynurse7921
@alynurse7921 Год назад
LoVe Me Some David Wilkerson ❣️ But , I LoVe The Jesus People , too ❣️
@LK_Ireland
@LK_Ireland Год назад
Interesting from Lanny frisbees book. The Jesus revolution, he tells about this encounter. Here’s the description below. At one point David Wilkerson, author of the very popular The Cross and the Switchblade about Nicky Cruz, came with a production team to film our household for a documentary. I was eighteen years old in that movie, which was financed by the Assemblies of God denomination. They gave us a small amount of money and had us sign away our rights. They filmed everything. It was supposed to be a story of redemption about our efforts to reach people with the message of Christ. However, they named the film The Runaway Generation, and it was very negative. In fact, it was an extremely negative film. They misunderstood what we were all about, but we still had nothing but love for them.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF Год назад
Thank you for posting this comment. Valuable information.
@MooreOnGrace
@MooreOnGrace Год назад
This is a tremendous post. And having read thru about a dozen comments, I feel the love of Christ. I think these young guys had probably not heard and accepted the teaching that I believe was first delivered by Chuck Smith on Pharmakeia. Gal5:20 I’d love to hear an interview with the 4 young men today and hear their views on drug use.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF Год назад
Here’s that interview ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hxE1R8O9wiM.html
@underdog6771
@underdog6771 Год назад
I've seen pastor David confess on one of his sermons about him being judgmental to people by just looking at them. He said it was his weakness and asked the Lord for deliverance from it. All of us are sinners we should not forget. Let people be and let the holy spirit lead them to the right path. God is the only judge.
@ryankittle3431
@ryankittle3431 Год назад
I love Wilkerson, but he came with the presupposition that they teach people that they can do drugs and have Christ. Instead of being objective, and asking questions, he made accusations.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF Год назад
Correct
@randylessley4712
@randylessley4712 Год назад
I remember 50 years ago David Wilkerson claiming that he had a vision from God showing him that the world would end and Jesus would return in 5 years. Well, that didn’t happen. Wouldn’t that qualify him as a false prophet? His self righteous, judgmental, narrow minded attitude always rubbed me the wrong way. I was part of that late 60’s Jesus movement but people like David Wilkerson almost drove me out.
@markdeckard6865
@markdeckard6865 Год назад
First of all, if Wilkerson wanted to point out errors and remove specks or beams from another persons eyes, why did he need a film crew to do it? He was loaded for bear and wanted to take these people down. Wilkersons entire career, as powerful as it was, was dripping with condemnation and criticism of new things God was doing. I'll never forget when he acceoted an invitation to a Milan LeFever concert from Milan himself because he was so concerned about Wilkersons criticism of Christian rock. Wilkerson went and reported he saw a vision of a demon risiong up out of the stage. I read many of his newsletter and it was article after article of how bad everything had become in the church and the world.
@ektrne1874
@ektrne1874 Год назад
I got saved in 1996! Hallelujah Listen don’t be deceived! When you get saved certain things God takes away from you right away because I was desperate for him emotionally I was suicidal I was a mess and certain things emotional healing takes a while however you will hate sinning! when when you’re born again you’ll Will hate sin ! so there’s going to be supernatural work in your heart It’s too bad that town Reverend Wilkinson was not prepared to talk to these people he supposed to be also with at least two more Christians strong Christians there and the debate with scripture if you love your brother you would never wanna encourage them to use anything that caused them destruction There’s so much scripture about this There’s also about Grace
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF Год назад
Thank you for the opine.
@MooreOnGrace
@MooreOnGrace Год назад
Awesome I was saved in 96 also. Like the Jews I spent 40 years wandering in the wilderness before I accepted Christ.
@JesusPeopleSF
@JesusPeopleSF Год назад
The folks saying God delivered them at conversion etc. Not one of you was completely delivered of all your vices at conversion. Maybe you did for drugs, maybe pornography but get real, you’re still clay being shaped in the Potter’s hands
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