DAWLESS Live Set Preparation on Octatrack and FINALLY Understand "Parts"

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I finally cracked the code on understanding parts. Thanks to @strangestrains5295 for putting the bug in my head about them (bit.ly/3FoyQxI) // This will be the live setup for sure now. I'll add a midi controller for controlling the OT tracks, but this is the heart of it all. So lets talk about how i'm putting stems into the Octatrack from Ableton Live.
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@RickyTinez Год назад

Thanks again for kicking it, hope you learned something! haha. Have anything you'd like to teach me? I always love the tips. Also, Check out Tracklib to get a special offer and free trial that you can cancel anytime - www.tracklib.com/campaign/partner?code=rickytinez

@veravillamayor Год назад

I don't understand most of what he's saying (I wish I can be as nerd as him) but man.. his voice and the way he talks about everything are just kinda satisfying!

@robertsyrett1992 Год назад

OT and DT are the 'no messing around' dawless set-up to end all set-ups. You can plan ahead, tweak live, and pack up in 10 minutes.

@SIDEEYEmusic Год назад

@4:42 I have been using Ableton Live for over a decade and I genuinely had no idea that you could just drag clips OUT of the Ableton environment back into your system like that. I am floored.

@RickyTinez Год назад

hahah right?! its so simple, that you'd think it is impossible.

@hiveminded6033 4 месяца назад

Dude, just, wow. Thank you, seriously! If you ever come to Belgium, the beer's on me.

@AllThatsGone Год назад

Thanks for doing what you do Ricky. Note to others - ‘See you later oscillator’ shirts make great holiday gifts.

@JamesBermingham Месяц назад

This guys speaking voice is so chilled, it must be a great singing voice too. 🎤🤩

@lukeward4619 Год назад

That track at the end is so smooth and atmospheric. Love it!

@RickyTinez Год назад

Thanks for chillin Luke! Appreciate you

@inkfingers Год назад

I’ve been trying to figure out what to do with parts on the OT. Your setup makes a lot of sense. Thanks Ricky!

@TheDustngel Год назад

Man i love your dawless videos. I learn a lot from u... Ty my friend ricky :)

@Gaiadarko Год назад

This video is amazing!! I've had the OT mk1 for a year and half now and sometimes i jusg hesitate on using it because it feels like too much work, this makes it so much easier

@bagheeramusic2452 Год назад

Thank you for that nice video! You helped me a lot with these informations and the food for thoughts! So now I can hopefully set up a good live set with my boxes!

@bussauto6564 Год назад

Thank you again ! 64 step Hold tip switched some light on for me awesome

@TheCALMInstitute Год назад

Ableton is super flexible in its export. You can choose to export only selected channels for selected time periods, export as 16-Bit 44.1kHz, and normalize. This is handy when capturing stuff for the Octatrack. I typically do 8 or 16 bar loops,(stuff like chopping and startpoint get less and less accurate the larger your file is!) and I can do an unlimited number of tracks in one go this way.

@thelevicole Год назад

22:34 solved a problem for me! Really great overview, excited to try some of these techniques out!

@luciousfl0w Год назад

MIKE HUCKABY TONES FOR THE WIN!!

@raysubject Год назад

very cool thanks for this video, those parts literally solved my only issue which was holding me back from buying Octatrrack (ok except of money lol) - i love how on digiboxes every pattern can be different song and was struggling how octa would fit to my set without this ability parts solved it. thanks !

@dudemanxx Год назад

This was helpful for me because I also tend to think of parts like "versions" of patterns, rather than a necessary home for all the things that make a pattern useful. So in a composition setup, maybe you make patterns up until you need a new part to proceed, or you plan your bank around the parts available to you and make patterns accordingly. But yeah, using parts almost like scenes was not the way to go, and I was doing it for a while.

@nkozi Год назад

If you haven't already, check out the series Kenny Zhao did a few years ago on using stems with the OT. Whole thing is here on youtube

@Born_in_92 Год назад

Man that’s so crazy I thought the 16 patterns were per part 🤯 thank you for this!!

@smacksalad Год назад

Thanks for your videos, Im gonna have to go back and see what Digitakt content you have. Just got myself a Digitakt a few weeks back and finally diving into it :)

@dkamhaji Год назад

Nice and simple! Track 6 can be your neighbor track for your DT thru, and 7 your peak thru. Or, as is, and 7 be your relooper flex!

@jesseukkonen 7 дней назад

Wow, so complex yet so useful! Very inspiring as well as I'm just getting into the Octatrack 🎛️✨

@dukwamusic 9 месяцев назад

I only use Part 1 for my live set. i change samples on the machines just pressing trig 1 and Level cursor Pos (selecting which samples i need in that machines for that pattern) if it make sense to you. Next time i will use Parts more in depht! Good work as usuale @RickyTinez 😍

@acidtechno Год назад

13:50 it does make sense, was just doing this just today with the midi tracks and external mbase 11, with program change over the 4 parts set on the 16 patterns on the 16 banks. great for latched fills ..:) nice to have 4 midi setups "per bank" etc etc including lfos.

@Trovarsi Год назад

said what word Parts about 50 times BUT I like it! Parts have been a little confusing to me, so thanks for breaking it down!!

@BrookBoley Год назад

Can we just talk about the great head of hair Ricky Tinez has? Who knew. Awesome video as always.

@Sinnersainthuman 10 месяцев назад

thank god I’m not the only one who had this issue with the looping trigger on an empty pattern haha! I do the -64 on the volume but the hold and release tip is superb! 🙏🏻

@tezeta3725 5 месяцев назад

Theres a setting to turn it off somewhere. I think in pattern settings maybe

@MrDarthSeriousmixes Год назад

the noise in the video 🥰

@joshuamorganmusic Год назад

I use the crap outta everything in the OT including parts. It’s the only way I can do my live set (lots of live instruments ie guitar/bass/vocals). Main thing is that parts let you change so much from pattern to pattern (machines/fx/lfo’s/etc). It’s weird to me seeing ppl not use, what to me, is a very integral part of the device. Same thing with the arranger (one of THE most powerful aspects of the OT)

@b.c.slumber3694 Год назад

I have bought and sold the Octatrack twice. So much effort for such basic functions. If the Digitakt did stereo sampling/playback this whole setup would have been achieved in quarter the time. In saying that Ricky, you always get the creative juices going, keep doing you!

@liothomasart Год назад

That's just crazy...i can't use that thing.

@boblomu3685 Год назад

totally agree re digitakt stereo sampling... i'd pretty much be able to do everything i want to without the octatrack

@RickyTinez Год назад

Thanks BC! yea the OT is a special device for sure. It can be as complex or as simple as we'd need it to be. There are settings on it that make me laugh because they are soooo specific! Like who asked for this?!

@TyQuinn Год назад

@@RickyTinez Really hoping a mkiii with some of the Digitakt simplicity and Overbridge might be on the horizon!

@allyouracid Год назад

Woah, that one sentence where you said you did it backwards with the parts. THIS is what made me finally understand it, because I had the exactly same way of thinking: "why would I put different samples onto a pattern?". But approaching it the other way around makes total sense. So could you say: in a bank, you have up to four parts, which serve as alternative configurations you can make use of when building a pattern inside that bank? Because if yes, I finally understood it. Thank you so much!

@matshroom Год назад

10 years later… finally using parts ‘properly’ ❤😂 love it

@mjbrakspear Год назад

Man, you always have the absolute best hats. Do you (and if so would you share) have any sample packs that you would recommend?

@quiddam Год назад

hey @RickyTinez another tip in case you didn't know that yet: you can "give up" one of your PARTS per bank,... to use as a "reload" part. That means, if you reserve PART 4 for this, and you are playing a song that is on PART 1,... you could C&P PART 1 in PART 4, swap to PART 4,... do a bunch of changes in PART 4 (like if you are trying to a buildup or something),... and then when you want to go reload back to zero (as you would do in the Digi with Func + NO) you can simply swap back to PART 1.

@jfpx_live Год назад

Nice one

@DuckForPope Год назад

You can also revert changes to a part quite easily by pressing func and cue. That way you won't need to sacrifice an entire part

@user82938 9 месяцев назад

Yeah, why wouldn't you just tweak part 1 and then reload the part? What you're doing is unnecessary.

@peaceful_1 Год назад

You mentioned using the Launch Control XL for your dawless live set. What midi host device do you use? Thanks for another fun vid. Great to relax to on a Sunday morning.

@Dessertofthereal Год назад

Man the looop setting! This has been fucking with me for so long and I couldn’t find any info on why samples would keep playing.

@ignaciodelvillararce4925 Год назад

thanks this inspires me to make a live set

@555atU Год назад

If i understood correctly, EZBOT also used parts for effects sets which is a very creative use of them and expands variety in an instant for a track.

@RickyTinez Год назад

yep! that's another great way to use parts!

@cooksoni.a 8 месяцев назад

after like the literal 20th time of rewatching the "parts" part, i think i'm finally getting it lol

@patfinn2697 Год назад

Still scratching my head on the parts thing, but I’m sure it will soften this thick skull eventually. What I am trying to do ( with some success) and what I would love to see you approach in a video is using the OT as basically a looper to write songs with. I know this sounds like it has been done, but it really hasn’t. Cuckoo almost does it in the first tutorial but he gets lost in the weeds.

@SIDEEYEmusic Год назад

@9:28 you can also actually just set Pattern Changes to SILENCE TRACKS in Project Settings > Control > Sequencer. Way easier method. There are times where you could want them to keep looping though. One time I told Kenny Zhao about a trick that lets you take advantage of this behavior for song transitions.

@RickyTinez Год назад

yea sometimes i want the track to play over. i have a long vocal sample that comes in and out and i find that it helps tie 2 songs together :)

@paulburkhart2619 Год назад

I'm just blown away by the thinking that went into this machine. Like 200 whiteboard scenarios, lol!

@paulburkhart2619 Год назад

oh nooooe u got hacked homieeee

@toshea1980 Год назад

Great video Ricky! My only issue is your recommendation for removing the CF card constantly. Every time you remove it and plug it in you run the risk of bending the pins in the Octatrack, so I usually stick to USB disk mode instead.

@christdolphin69 Год назад

i dont get the rationale for removing it anyway. its no faster than moving files in usb disk mode and definitely doesnt justify physically pulling the cf card out every time you want to put a SAMPLE into a SAMPER

@borayboray1 9 месяцев назад

@@christdolphin69 It was a promo plug, definitely not recommended

@liothomasart Год назад

4:59 noooo... I screamed at the screen... You have to do all that gymnastics??? Damn I'm glad I'm using MPC 🤦🏾‍♂️ this is torture.

@Synthdawg_ Год назад

Parts are sometimes overlooked or misunderstood. I made sure this had clarity in the Synthdawg Notebook

@ajrodriguez5305 Год назад

Really digging your manual!

@StevenFines13147 Год назад

Where can one find the aforementioned handbook?

@brian3kb Год назад

Parts = STEM (scenes, track params, effect assignment, machine config), and there’s a nice clear diagram near the beginning of the manual showing this. I was confused when I first wanted to learn how to use them, but there is no better description of them (and most of the rest of how to use the OT) than in the manual.

@brainspoke Год назад

totally agree... however, manual remains somewhat hard to digest for some brains (mine included) and I have had to bash my head against learning Octa for months with youtube leading the learning until I understood gradually more and more through trial (many many trials!!) and error (ditto!) UNTIL the manual started to make more sense to me!!! ...will check out the diagram you refer to now... :)

@random_name- Год назад

hey man .. that was Cool... keep going

@Djam0 Год назад

@ricky tinez this is great thanks for always sharing!! However by dragging & dropping the clip from ableton, you don’t get the channel processing or master processing on the clip/loop - unless something has changed in live?

@ionianechoes Год назад

That machine is just diabolic. I'm glad I finally got into the mc707 which is really intuitive 😀

@dankeplace Год назад

707 is opposite of intuitive when it comes to menu diving and 3 assignable knobs per engine.

@ionianechoes Год назад

@@dankeplace the mc707 needs no menu diving when performing, I'd say that's precisely one of its main strengths. You will menu dive when producing, but I mean...which complex groovebox requires no menu diving?? But in that, unlike the octatrack, you can perform mostly without any button presses even. Faders, knobs, pads...

@dankeplace Год назад

@@ionianechoes SP16 has 2 pages deep for menus, it destroys the 707 for UI, sounds better but does not have synth engines. I have owned both but still have the SP16, with a P6 filter, I know which is a better perf tool.

@ionianechoes Год назад

@@dankeplace also, I don't know whats not intuitive about the assignable knobs. You assign them for every clip to the desired parameters, you perform with them, you automate them. Easier imposible

@dankeplace Год назад

@@ionianechoes You have 3 knobs, that's it, that makes it an extremely poor capable perf tool, where you can manipulate your source, an Akai Fprce has a ton more capabilities for manipulation, and has a much better UI given it's driven by a 7 inch screen (fwiw I own that too)

@plasticchinamen Год назад

I put the Octatrack down for a few months and somehow managed to forget almost everything I knew. I’m probably going to have to watch this a few times to get it.

@HenriDeCarvalho Год назад

I've used parts since the start because they allow to have variations of patterns...was surprised that most of the people did not used them...I still haven't figure out how to benefit 16 patterns in a live setup configuration when patterns in a same bank are independant and linked to each other. Right now i use to store one songe in one banks. Each song made of one pattern with 4 variations (4 parts ) per track...All the different groovebox/Sequencer/synth i've used (MPC, Roland MC, polyend tracker, Analog four, analog rytm) were for me much more simple to use for live setup. Sometimes i feel the Octatrack lack of fluidity and push you to find shortcuts to get a simple task done. it's a powerfull tool but not an quick and easy to use

@jessetoews2446 Год назад

great vid! thx

@RayMaxer 10 месяцев назад

Didn't see in the comments, but DEC - stands for Decimal, of course. Hex for Hexadecimal nearby.

@cbubbb Год назад

Ricky is the Mr Robot of music production 😂

@grindFish 11 месяцев назад

Damn i've been thinking of parts in that same back to front way. It's just so tempting to change parts on the fly but like you pointed out it doesn't make sense with out being a foundation for the pattern itself. Kinda the crux of many confusing ways of the octa track, just because you can doesn't mean you should 😵‍💫

@chevere4209 Год назад

I’m still grinding away at this machine, I will not let it break me! Lol coming from the MPC world it’s such a different way of approaching things.

@ayylmao3765 4 месяца назад

Hi, thank you for explaining things, one question though, for example on 15:04 you change pattern on both devices manually to the same pattern 9, is it possible to trigger from the ot via midi to reflect on dt as well?

@steffenhenriksen1412 Год назад

Ricky - im on the fence about the aiaiai headphones.. could you give some feedback on the sound of them compared to say dt 990pro or the hd650’s?

@dorn_beats Год назад

I use Parts like this: Every Bank houses two songs. Pattern 1-8 and Parts 1-2 are reserved for one song and Pattern 9-16 and Parts 3-4 are reseverved for the othe song. I like two have the flexibilty of having two parts per song. So far so good: 16 Banks x 2 Songs = 32 Songs, right? Yes, if you don't use a Digitakt (or Digitone in my case) along side the Octatrack. Because the smaller Boxes can only have 8 Banks. Crazy stuff... ;) Happy Jamming!

@thomasvandendool6613 Год назад

nice one, was thinking of something very similar. having an extra part (at least) per song seems a hard requirement for certain styles of music

@kantorbernat8263 4 месяца назад

Very useful video! Why some elektron devices has this random, colorful blink on some buttons after booting up?

@FaustinoSeven Год назад

@RickyTinez please could you make a video explaining Multis on the MPC4000 and how they are used in a workflow? I’ve been really struggling to wrap my head round how they should be used!

@synthesis2384 Год назад

Parts use the same samples with different effects blocks. Each part uses different effects. If you break it into pattern 1-4 part 1, patterns 5-8 part 2, etc. you can have 4 variations with different effects (not to mention scenes. The samples live in the banks, the trigs live in the patterns, the effects live in the parts. So much OT, so little time. Good luck with the gig. For stems at a live show I would stick to 1 part for simplicity. On each new song just go to the next bank, 16 more patterns with the new samples for that song. Your channel rocks 🤘

@victor.b4529 Год назад

No, samples also connected to parts

@dudemanxx Год назад

@@victor.b4529 just to provide context from the manual: 10.2 PARTS "... A part consists of machine, sample and effect assignments along with track parameter settings and up to 16 scenes. Each pattern is linked to a part and one part is thus always active."

@victor.b4529 Год назад

@@dudemanxx yea, I didn’t say “parts use the same samples with different effect block”

@dudemanxx Год назад

@@victor.b4529 I know. I’m adding context to your comment, because you’re right. If people read yours, they’ll see where they can learn more for themselves. I wasn’t correcting you.

@synthesis2384 Год назад

Thanks for clarifying. That’s what makes the OT such a great machine. All the things you learn along the way.

@willsoul007 8 месяцев назад

Hey Ricky, since working at Elektron have they ironed out all these little quirks that you raise about the Octa? Like the sample continuing to play when you change patterns? Looking at picking one up soon.

@Lexxo777 Год назад

I've been on the fence for an Octatrack for ages, love these videos, they pull me in 4 steps, then push me back out 3! Is there a flow chart or diagram online that can explain the "parts"?

@user82938 9 месяцев назад

Yeah, if you look in the manual there are charts. But just think of parts as "kits." They basically work that way. So when he changes to a new part on another pattern, he is changing the kit of samples.

@curtc6563 Год назад

Exellent explaination. I used to wonder same thing too : why would I change sample in the middle of playing !? totally backwards. Or become insane OT scientist like Dataline, sure.

@isaac.anthony Год назад

i deal with the slow read/write because i'm paranoid that i'm going to break the pins on the card, thanks for consolidate command-J

@sumdup Год назад

i was about to comment the same thing, breaking a pin would not be fun and its a lottery people should probably avoid!

@chambre466 10 месяцев назад

thx man

@lownrgy 10 месяцев назад

Sick House ;)

@lownrgy 10 месяцев назад

I think it was Dope

@DaJesuts 5 месяцев назад

Are banks locked to a certain tempo, or can each part have a different tempo?

@emmanuelcameron4904 Год назад

Thank you so much. You have no idea.

@giuseppemagistro6648 Год назад

10:34 I'm going mad with loop "hold" trick you mention some days ago. I find that if a put Hold to 128steps the loop continue to play over the last step in the same way as you put INF. I think its a bug. Have you tried that? I set the master to 128steps too.

@FlynnTaggart23 Год назад

So much potential... Although I wish Elekton would just update the Octatrack MkII; doesn't need to revolutionary, just a evolution would do. A colation of existing current Elektron technology: overbridge, their 48k AD/DA converter, update effects & workflow inline with newer units like the ...takt's.

@TRaddcliff Год назад

Can PARTS be set to direct [instant] change, or does the cycle need to finish?

@KurtLorenz 11 месяцев назад

❤❤❤❤

@lebronsinclair8012 Год назад

We need an intuitive mk3 version.

@danishdaycare Год назад

Broken pins on the back removing the SD card seems to be a common thing, I'd rather wait for the somewhat slower transfer than broken pins and corrupted SD card.. My 2 cents.

@jacksondavis8209 Год назад

Hey Ricky! Super useful info. One thing I encountered before is that rendering Ableton stems at 48khz resulted in the time stretching not working properly on the Octa (mk1), since I think it expects 44.1khz. With your method of drag and dropping stems straight from Ableton, do you also need to configure Ableton's global settings to 44.1?

@rittikwystup9343 Год назад

Also be sure to have your samples in 16 or 24 bit - watch out for frozen tracks since they can be 32 bit. Then, the Octatrack can't load the file. If you want to use frozen samples from Ableton, convert to 24 or 16 bit before. If you're on Mac, there is a command-line tool called ffmpeg which can do this for you :)

@dorn_beats Год назад

I try it very short: Banks have Patterns in them. Patterns are assigned to Parts. Think of Parts as a "Machine Preset". Sampler, Live-Looper, FX-Box, what do you want? You can also save parts for having presets. Octa is a long journey!!!

@JAAPIOJO Год назад

Do you have a typhon?

@dzaxys4643 Год назад

Love the ot some things just nothing else does

@_justin_joe Год назад

You actually piqued my interest about Banks now. I was already using parts like this but have never really used Banks.

@SexyEarHole Год назад

Same here

@TimH123 11 месяцев назад

Yeah, but what is a Part? A way of swapping the sample set and patterns wholesale within the overall template of a project?

@_B.C_ Год назад

Seems like if you got the right combination of card adapters you could edit your sounds in a blackbox and truly ditch the daw.

@X-101 Год назад

I thought timestrech doesn't work on static tracks??

@SurfWineMusic 3 месяца назад

Hello, Thaks for theses super advises Ricky. But I'm just confusing : I'm on part 3 / Pattern 3 . Good.. But when I press pattern 5. I'm on Part 1 but still on Bank 1 :(((. How to switch banks ? Thank you so much for your work btw

@RickyTinez 3 месяца назад

to switch banks on the octatrack, hold down the BANK button that is next to the PTN (pattern) button. Also if you want, you can COPY a PART from one bank to another! Press PART, use the arrow keys to highlight a PART, then press FUNC+REC (copy) and do the same to paste it somewhere else :)

@SurfWineMusic 3 месяца назад

@@RickyTinez thanks Ricky ! But no chance to assign a pattern to a specific bank right ?

@tendingtropic7778 Год назад

Couldnt you just use the OT in disk mode instead of having the cf reader?

@iansmirna5183 9 месяцев назад

Did not get the "trick" with the CF card. There's no way i risk having a bent pin by pulling back & forth the CF card.

@Heathcliff_hensel Год назад

dAwLeSs!!

@RedEmberRecords Год назад

i still don't get the usage case for parts in the live scenario. an electronic live set with, say, 12 separate works is probably going to get you close 90mins+ show - which is a lot. parts add yet another layer of mental foldering needed. the 1 work per bank and 16 patterns per bank is way enough (+scenes!) . the only thing i can think of is to use as a base to snap back to (like the pattern reload on Digi) if you mangle fx during the performance. somehow if it would help me with the stress of transitioning between banks, am open ears.

@user82938 9 месяцев назад

I think the point is if you want to be more spontaneous and have more songs to choose from, it gives you more songs in the project. Some people like to "read the crowd" and adjust their set.

@myceliumtechno Год назад

AR and A4 have Parts too, 16 of them per Bank. They're called Kits. OT has 4 per Bank. A Kit is nothing more than a place to store instrument configurations (Track configurations on OT). DT and DN have them too, kits. They are automatically loaded and saved with each Pattern. On DT/DN you can't user save them though for use with other Patterns. That's a deliberate design choice.

@gin-sonic Год назад

So you mention your song from 2018 "your love" but where can I listen to it? Maybe you should promote your own music more :) Listening to Apple Music right now...

@svarteemma1684 5 месяцев назад

I think when parts are so versitile elektron needs to develop the arranger or maybe the purpose with the octatrack is let go and go with the flow…😅

@koalemos1679 Год назад

Why not just not loop your stems and parameter lock your stems to your play trig? Every time the pattern loops, your stem gets re-triggered and it stops when the stem ends.

@henryAightch Год назад

Nope still don't get parts 🤔😅

@RevTheAcid Год назад

whaaaaat？ i watched this for three times，still dont get it

@dorteva Год назад

I am fortunate to have Elektron Rytm and Four but I just CANNOT even deal with the Octatrack. Octa sure seems amazing but way too consuming for this audio hobbyist with limited music time.

@SchleimKeim77 Год назад

Ricky I'm sorry to tell you this, but I don't think you actually understood parts. However, what you're saying is true and works as long as you only use stems and one trigger per track per pattern

@SchleimKeim77 Год назад

I also want to add that you could achieve the exact same thing with sample locking your 1trig/track/pattern while using only one part. That way you would have the three other parts for breaks and effects.

@victor.b4529 Год назад

What exactly he told wrong? What is his misunderstand?

@SchleimKeim77 Год назад

@@victor.b4529 a pattern only saves triggers. Everything else is the part.... Machines, effects, volume settings, that's all the 'part'. He doesn't need parts for his setup, since all he changes is the triggered sample. Which can be achieved with sample trigs alone.

@victor.b4529 Год назад

@@SchleimKeim77 18:20

@antonv13 Год назад

@@SchleimKeim77 “that way you have 3 parts for effects and breaks”, mind elaborating how you use parts? Do you keep same samples with different effects? And what about the breaks? Cheers