Daystate or FX : Top 4 Rifle Comparison 

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Thanks for the review. All of these rifles are excellent. I’ve shot 3 of the 4 on your table and I own the Crown in .30 cal. The adjustability comes in very handy when you’re not limited to 12 ft/lbs. In your review, it also shot the best groups. Very happy with mine. Again, thank you for sharing.

Satisfying to see that my hw99s can get tighter groups than all those expensive rifles.

I had to watch this again guys. I am going to buy a Daystate Redwolf come hell, or high water. The next time someone makes a stupid comment about sub 12ft pounds rifles. ....Tell them to go watch the video of the man killing bear, deer and hogs with a blow gun. ......It really puts shot placement in perspective. I now see the high shot count, quietness and accuracy as more important than power. Sub 12ft pounds will kill out to 75 yards, or even 100 if you do your part. God bless you brother's.

Two guys that love guns trying to explain why they love one over the other when in the end they love them all, these are our toys! Keep the good work Steve, honest reviews and invite Eric again !!! He also has good taste in guns!

You should prolly go with a sub12fp Daisey Red Rider, brilliant shot count and can't beat the price:)

Hi Steve got myself a daystate red wolf hi lite in 177 sub 12ft it's the best rifle ive ever shot it's not pellet fussy and i just love the electronic trigger

I used to make stupid comments about the sub 12 ft pounds guns. But now I have come to realize that the high shot count and low noise may be a damn nice advantage. So now I would really like a sub 12ft pounds rifle.

As someone has owned and owns some of the so called top end guns I lean towards daystate Iv always had issues regarding reliability with fx rifles in one form or another Also I think the durability and reliability of the daystate rifles are better And two grand for s crown mine was sixteen hundred

Well done Eric to buying a fx impact after trying mine out .Fx now soughted problems out as Steve has said enjoy mate.

Great little overview. Any chance you could do a Overview/Review of the discovery scopes? Cheers.

This was a great video with your two boys. Hope to se more of That 👍

You should have given one away in a competition Steve , I would have been happy to win any , the wolverine is my favourite, but think you’d be happy with any of them , l o l cheers Shane uk 🇬🇧

You paid £1950 for the Crown! Countryway Gunshop now have it listed on their Website for £1649 .PS that's were I get all my guns & ammunition from .Plus Daystate Pulsar synthetic for £1185 plus JSB 177 8.4 for £7.75! Just goes to show the mark up most gun shops make!! Solware must have a little giggle every time Eric gets out his wallet LOL.

Very good review it is and time for conclusion...Top springer will be my next airgun :)

Enjoyed the conversation

The comparisons are great as we can't all get our hands on a crop of top-tier airguns like that for concurrent testing. One question, Steve, if you don't like the Crown due to complexity (knobs and dials) why is the same criticism not applied to the Impact as well?

I have the wolverine R in .177 and must say it is a very accurate , I also have a Daystate Red Ranger in .20 which is also very accurate. AA diablo .177 are my go to pellets and JSB .20 for the Red Ranger

Red wolf- "If that was in black pepper, I would get one yesterday". Me too....

Great review 👍nice to see all four together ,but surely if the Crown is too much rifle and too complicated for sub 12 then surely the impact x must be as well

Great honest video. Some great hardware there. Best wishes from Northern Ireland.

Got a .177 red wolf hilite and a .22 wolverine R hilite, both laminate. The red wolf is on a different level to anything I’ve ever fired. It’s basically the Bugatti of air guns.

I know the difference between a top end rifle and a value based rifle. Without question these are the shit when it comes to high quality top end guns. I have a sub 300$ Nova Vista Liberty/Alpha...FAC...I also have top end guns and one in particular is a Crown...all in .22. Out to 80 yards the Liberty is more consistent and accurate than my Crown. I don’t know if I hit the barrel/regulator lottery with this gun and it’s sister in synthetic or what but I don’t have all the stress of damaging or scratching it when I take it out. The Crown is an amazing gun and a work of art mechanically and looks. Both have an externally adjustable regulator, adjustable trigger, and after a slight mod to the Liberty, adjustable hammer spring. What a bunch of lucky guys we are to be alive and into airguns in this day and age. The powder burning world snubs airguns even though most of them were taught how to shot with them and probably think of big box stores when they think of airguns. They have know idea how effective one can be when setup right and used properly. I really appreciate reviews that put the big dogs side by side. That Daystate Red Wolf is wicked accurate. Not that any of the other guns are a slouch by any means and the Impact...well...speaks for its self. Damn I love airguns. They are all sexy and desirable to me and I want all of them. Top them with quality optics and WOW! Magic can happen that would put a smile on the hardest powder burners face. Thanks for an awesome comparison bud. Stay safe, stay well. God bless you and your family in these crazy times bud. Take care.

Thoroughly enjoy this channel. Keep up the great videos!

Spares are an issue too, sportsman centre send 3D printed parts for discontinued models I believe.

Very fun and enjoyable video! You two should do more like this.

I don’t no enough details , and info regarding a comparison, I like all these guns but for some unknown reason I quite fancy the RTI Preist cheers Shane

Great video a lot of fun, love the relaxed nature, very entertaining.

i pity the english... sub 13 footpounds? Cool that you guys are still stoked! im waiting for my m3 standard bronze. thanks for the effort guys. appreciate it

I have a Daystate Air Wolf which has the same comb as the Wolverine. I really dislike how it slopes downward because when you shoot prone your face is slightly forward and you lose cheek weld. I don't like the belly on the Impact because you cannot position a bag underneath when shooting varmints.

What is a modifier ?I heard you mention a few times in your vids.

Wieder ein sehr gutes Video,ein guten Rutsch ins neue Jahr wünsche ich Euch !

This was a great casual overview. When I watched your intro and saw all the toys...I was thinking “cool”...then I realized that there are probably going to be the same old comments we see endlessly: “I can shoot better”....and “These guns are a waste ....and my $2 piece of $hit does just as good”. Maybe it’s why Daysate makes 100-200 of these gems...they didn’t make them for the masses. And why get irritated and trash them bc you can’t afford them? I can’t afford a yacht yet it would be nice to have one. I’m sure if someone handed these naysayers a Daystate LE they’d be happy as a pig in “$” . As for shooting better....anyone who has to brag I’d never believe....and furthermore don’t care. It’s for fun...most ppl just like shooting and enjoying Airguns so no need to get your tape measurer out and compare. I like old springers as well as the high end stuff. It’s all just for fun anyway??? Right? Great job and thanks for a very refreshing and causal look at some awesome Airguns.

Redwolf all day. Still have my baby, got rid of my impact now and have the crown mk11.

Hi Steve I've got the daystate huntsman classic love it but I really like the look of the fx impact so will probably be getting one of them in the summer have a great new year to yourself and Erick atvb jimmy 😎 😎

Hi Stevie, Need your advise pls mate. What's the best most reliable sub 12 all rounder in 177, from rats to rabbits and woodies, if u had to choose one rifle what would it be, hitting 15m - 50m targets, with some field trekking work also. FX Impact M3 or the Daystate wolverine R lite. I love both and they have good breeding, but I cant make a mistake on reliability and good standing into the future at these prices. cheers Andy

I like your honesty fellas, My pick would be Impact which I own 1, Wolverine as i think Its a beautiful rifle an toss a coin for the last 2. I do think the reds hideous.

Thanks for the info

Good video Steve, I'd like to see a full test of them all at 40 + yds using single shot loaders. Think I will spring for a Wolverine personally has to be a good buy with it being cheaper. I'm not a fan of the Red Wolf as I have had experience of Daystate electronics before. Don't care for the style of the Impact as was said its a bit of a marmite gun. But thats just my personal taste

I would like to know where the Diana productions stand, the german brand with the T06 triggers, could you please do a comparison video about the Diana brand?

Steve, we like your videos and watching, keep it up

Like the video can you do a video on the discovery scopes see you have some on the rifles, thanks

Dudes! How much did you pay for the Crown? Got mine after a 4 month wait for £250 off retail !! Don't want to disclose retailer as they would be in trouble but time to do some research my friends?

I just can’t see myself ever buying anything other than a *Daystate **#DAYSTATE*

Shooting a sub 12 ft/ibs at 30 m...buy a springer. Test them at +150m at full power and there will be a winner.

Love this kind of casual fun reviews, subbed. Due to the reports of problems on the Impact I was hesitant to buy one, but I decided on buying a later model anyways and 3000+ shots later and lots of adjusting, no problems at all (not even minor leaks). Great rifle.

Hey Steve. Do you think you can get your hands on an Edgun Matador R5M and work your magic with it? I would love to hear your thoughts on it.

Are Eric's guns fitted with Eaglevision mounts?? Just got these for my next project. Living in Turkey so no power limits which makes adjustable rings more important possibly than in UK.

My hw 100 pellet on pellet 30 mtrs off the bipod ,day state overpriced,get some practice in boys ya need it.

Haven't seen this one Steve will get round to seeing all of your videos brilliant thanks For all your helpful video s 😁 👍😉+like the vapour to lol

great review

Check the pellet probe on the Red Wolf for damage: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dh4_7Rmgsd0.html

All fantastic rifles but it’s the impact all day long for me

Really good vid guys 👍

What is the name brand and model of scope is that on the wolverine?

What air rifle comes out on top for accuracy, please disregard any other factor?

whats the lifespan on the bottles for these tanks? how long before they have to go in for hydro testing?

Great video Steve 👍👍

I love my berserker mtl rta and rti priest 😂

Hi Steve, Any plans on reviewing the priest air rifle ??

Excelente comparativo, porém jamais se compara precisão de calibre .177 x .22 assim como não se compara energia em Joules entre esses calibres, fica a dica .

The humble Sumatra beats them all for power to price ratio..

Funnily enough you have your rifles in 1st and seccond... The fx crown being over engineered for sub 12...isnt all fx rifles over engineered a rifle with ehat 30+ o rings in it... and the red wolf an electric rifle yet again over engineered as its electric... All great rifles but the best 2 are the dayststes .. Imo its a tie depending on whats your preference Redwolf & wolverine Then it would be a toss up between the impact and crown

Isnt the Impact just as over engineered as the Crown?;)

Would you believe me if I told you I had a nova Vista liberty, a 22 caliber FAC that will out shoot all four of those guns that cost US$350. I doubt it. I would love to show you.

I like the idea of the review, however to make it all relevant you need to keep things the same, for example not have one in .22 and others in .177. All scopes and mounts should be the same. The only thing that could be excepted for differences are pellets... once the best pellet for the gun has been selected then use that for the particular gun

Mill wall wt lol happy new year.

Brocock beat FX to win the world extreme benchrest,...after seeing the reviews on the daystate "redwolf" i think fx has got their work cut out..

@5:42 Nothing "cheap" about the Wolverine R. May be less expensive than the other three, but "cheap" she is definitely not!

Foggy where you are 😅

Not really objective and the Crown had the best groupings of the 4

Daystate are ugly big clumsy things it's like carrying a breeze block plus they are cheap shite. Fx are beautifully made top quality and way more accurate and reliable my FX Royal is 5 yrs old never missed a beat never leaks top accuracy and feels well made I've had 3 arrangers and all had accuracy issues bad barrels and mag problems

Take into account customer service of FX and Daystate

Great videos mate. I enjoy them. Nice rifles on this one. Your right you are both lousy shots !! or the rifles are not so accurate . Large groups at 30m . You have a lot of fun and that's what it is all about

Great guns,vaping,sitting outdoors....cracking!!

Fx for me

oh please, fx is way ahead of everyone

The best.? FX..!!

When people allow the bottom feeders to regulate them down to the output of a Red Rider BB gun, it's no wonder you're whining about the high-end capabilities of the Crown. Change your mindset, the deer are not the King's. What makes the Crown special, IS the ability to be HOT... (for those of us who are able to enjoy the taste of venison) (so to speak). However, hats off to you folks for not having to go through a stupid-fest just to use a silencer. LOL

Interesting vid lads ... and some of the finest of the finest PCP's on the market ... gorra say though ... my 1974 BSA Mercury would " kick there asses " at 30mtrs .. even with open sights on ... only cost me dear old daddy £25 anawl ... back in the day ... None of this rangefinder shite like we have now , we learned by experience and practice .. slap a scope on that was has thin as a whippets pecker ...and bobs yer uncle .. pigeons at 75yrds piece of piss ... todays guns ... I " sh#t on em ... Cant wait for the FX Dreamline too come ...deffo gonna have one of them variants .. prolly the standard stock option ( 1st )

Too many problems with FX. At least Daystate is reliable

Why don't you guys just go with the FX Wildcat and get rid of all them big goofy looking bottle guns that have no forearm on them or wait 10 or 15 lb I think all the way around 4 probably target shooting and hunting the Bullpup FX Wildcat would be the best all the way around you got no batteries you deserve the gone up put the jsb pellets in it and go to the woods it's perfectly balanced lightweight doesn't have a goofy space-age goofy bottle look got a nice little forearm to hold just a good gun all the way around

pulsar enough said

I will beat all that with my hw 97 no problem 395 pound worth of gun

what salesman makers must be cringing at the review.

two English cultures separated by a common language....

😅😅😅😅

poor accuracy for 12 fp rifles

The vaping spoilt the demo completely

Would be nice to see some reviews on Anschutz , Steyr and ISP air guns in the future? I believe they are the top 3 in terms of accuracy and quality, just my opinion of course :)

redwolf gets my vote just for the looks but bearing in mind the results of international competitors of late with the redwolf seemingly it has raised the bar, the only issue is the electronics and reliability which only time will tell on that one, great video again lads, wishing all the chaps involved a healthy and happy 2019 and im looking forward to enjoying more vids next year !!

If I had to choose between those 4 rifles, I would break out in a cold sweat. All of them are accurate and all are tops in one catagory or another. Solution: hit the lottery and buy them all! Based on the ability to change liners and shoot slugs, I THINK I would narrowly go with the Impact. But even that, it would depend on the day of the week that you ask me. That Red Wolf looks so wicked. I think doves would just die when they saw the gun - no need to pull the trigger. lol Good job guys on trying to be unbiased. It's crazy hard with those heavy weight guns.

all too heavy and overcomplicated, so I go for the FX. being 80 years old and having to carry all-day FX best all-round. for me. and their wildcat with the cocking leaver halfway along the barrel is brill.

I have an impact & it shoots really well now 3 barrels later, got to say the after sales are pants its taken me 18 months to sort it & the magazine system is crap for a £1600 gun but i do like the 550 shots ish in 177 , get an HW100 magazine system in it & it would be near perfect for me, i would buy a red wolf tomorrow if they did one in black soft touch rubberised stock ,thanks for taking the time to post the vids though unbiased views are the way to go

1st Impact 2 redwolf 3 crown 4 wolverine.. wolverine can never be first,

You poor bastards sub 12 ft lbs !

Being a replicaholic, I don't care for PCPs or bullpups. But seeing as we are m8s across the pond, I enjoy watching your videos as I like your Canadian accent. LOL Happy New Year my airgun video making brother.

Daystate is top of the top , FX never ever can close to that quality and accuracy for certain..

The dislike of Mags over sst speaks volumes as to manufactures lack of practical experience in shooting 🦉

Impact 3500 in oz