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Dead Internet Theory 💀 

Johannes A. Niederhauser
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@Cjk294
@Cjk294 3 месяца назад
I believe ai is being oversold. So-called ai can’t really create anything on its own, it simply uses prompts entered by humans then uses different genres of art and literature (already created by humans) as a reference point and then mashes them together to make something “new”. That tech can be used to spark new ideas, but we humans will always be the true creators
@JohannesNiederhauser
@JohannesNiederhauser 3 месяца назад
🌞🌞
@uberneanderthal
@uberneanderthal 3 месяца назад
the Gods of the Market Place prefer efficiency over creativity, and so do the people who worship them. 99.99% of people never create anything 'new', they just learn a few established templates and then apply those templates using basic levels of discernment. "AI" is perfectly capable of doing that, with much greater speed for much lower cost.
@rohanshakur4012
@rohanshakur4012 3 месяца назад
AI will never compete with the greatest thinkers and artists. Study them, write about them, and invite others to do so. I think we need to provide an alternative to the mountains AI slop
@JohannesNiederhauser
@JohannesNiederhauser 3 месяца назад
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@uberneanderthal
@uberneanderthal 3 месяца назад
chess masters said the same thing before 1997.
@JHimminy
@JHimminy 3 месяца назад
So it has become what journalism and book publishing have been for 200 years.
@andriyka17
@andriyka17 29 дней назад
This comment was clearly written by AI
@deniszhernokleyev1818
@deniszhernokleyev1818 20 дней назад
@@andriyka17 except for the irony
@taramiranda6869
@taramiranda6869 3 месяца назад
The internet was never very 'human' anyway.
@JohannesNiederhauser
@JohannesNiederhauser 3 месяца назад
Or maybe the most human of all inventions. I disagree with David Bowie I think
@JohannesNiederhauser
@JohannesNiederhauser 3 месяца назад
The fact that we can have parasocial relationships (good and terrible ones) indicates something deeply human about the Internet
@bologna470708
@bologna470708 3 месяца назад
Well, it’s like Spengler described in the winter phase of civilisation of the West. That Faustian man lives through and by the machine.
@balsarmy
@balsarmy 2 месяца назад
I think people will get tired and this would reveal how ai is boring. The way is to help those who are in search fir answers. Lead the light to heal human souls
@JohannesNiederhauser
@JohannesNiederhauser 2 месяца назад
Great 🌞
@SeanFlaherty
@SeanFlaherty 3 месяца назад
Maybe people will rely on a "IRL Net" to experience truly human-crafted content. Something like local book clubs. Could printed magazines/other 'zines make a comeback?
@HeloIV
@HeloIV 3 месяца назад
I think either humans will get tired of the slop which ai will create (the mass produced one, not the real artist use of it) and just slowly walk away from the digital (leaving Babel..) or humans will start imitating ai generating an ouroboric hyperhumanity
@Sunshine99283
@Sunshine99283 3 месяца назад
we need to create a community based on the late 19th technology level. less technology, less electronics, less noise, and more closeness to nature.
@JohannesNiederhauser
@JohannesNiederhauser 3 месяца назад
Join the Amish. That’s no solution, just LARPing. No offence
@Sunshine99283
@Sunshine99283 3 месяца назад
@@JohannesNiederhauser I didn't say join the amish. Amish are a very strict religious sect. I'm saying let's restore a more clean life. technologies such as the smart phones and TVs with all its accessory phenomena and dilemmas didn't make our life mentally and physically easier. I'm struggling every week to detox my brain-dopamine habits. without what these new technologies offer us every single hour, I would read more, think clearer, live happier, enjoy slower, learn more effectively, and observe the reality with more focus. I wish I was born in another era:(.
@JohannesNiederhauser
@JohannesNiederhauser 3 месяца назад
@@Sunshine99283 I said join the Amish because that is basically what you want - just without the religion. You cannot be born in a different age. That’s a reactionary stance. You are born now and into the future.
@Sunshine99283
@Sunshine99283 3 месяца назад
@@JohannesNiederhauser I can see that Age is our choices and deeds collectively viewed. and if my stance is a reactionary one, then each longing to our lost paradises.. each will to choose a past right over a present mistake is a reactionary act unfortunately.
@Sunshine99283
@Sunshine99283 3 месяца назад
@@JohannesNiederhauser by the way amish lifestyle is very harsh.. 0 technology..while 1880-1905 time has many technologies (in a benign level) where they can make life easier without corrupting it in deep. for example amish can't have electricity, while 19th century man used it. etc.
@thomasp.1828
@thomasp.1828 3 месяца назад
"Do you have machines that think?" "We used to until they broke. Then we threw them away." Neal Stephenson predicated this developement in 1999 in his book "Anathem". He even called it AI, short for "artifical inanity".
@thomasp.1828
@thomasp.1828 3 месяца назад
His solution seems to be monastic convents for philosophers, scientists and so-called "deo-logers", totally devoid from technology and the outer-world, called "the seculum".
@natedansereau
@natedansereau 3 месяца назад
We could look for offline communications? Or articulate the beauty of humanity and nurture and share the ability to do human things IA can't (I say AY because there is no reason to respect its name).
@mt030
@mt030 5 дней назад
Read Guenons Reign of Quantity. Ai is pure quantity. Aim for quality and people will notice
@ignaciogc9920
@ignaciogc9920 3 месяца назад
Language origin addressed from ideas and entities in the world to the world. Later language forgot its origin and language was addressed to itself Now we are in a second transformation where language is a marginal tool that not address anything usefull because the usefull is storaged on the Internet so aniquilation of sense of ideas of thinking and language is in process. The reason why that happens I leave here to discuss to anyone who want it
@alexvatoussis6001
@alexvatoussis6001 3 месяца назад
AI is also just very bad at writing in general. I’ve just finished my Undergraduate degree in Philosophy and most of the analytic writers that I was forced to read sound just as bad, but hardly anyone reads them anyway. The same with AI. True reading requires intensional sustained attention, and I don’t know of anyone who would willing expend that attention reading that kind of rubbish. More opportunity for those who can actually write and actually have something to write about.
@JohannesNiederhauser
@JohannesNiederhauser 3 месяца назад
🌞
@dionysianapollomarx
@dionysianapollomarx 2 месяца назад
This whole AI situation is like an Omelas situation. I think, at this point, to remain human, we should just walk away and not participate in this soul-killing and planet-killing enterprise of so-called AI. (In the future, we might expect some to try and attempt radical Kaczynski-like ways of achieving some sort of catharsis, if I’m using the term correctly. I don’t personally advocate this.) That’s why I’ve stopped relying on ChatGPT and instead asked friends I can “spitball” ideas to, to jumpstart fresh opportunities to write (I’m a relatively unknown writer in the Global South, you see). I feel more human this way, less machine. You can’t even ask the AI to be honest with you. What else should I have expected? Maybe a return to old ways of life and living and “creation” of human knowledge, but in more modern garb, can help us, if we figure out how to do it again. Even the people of the 90s might have better ways than we (and I mean laypeople too, not just the academics/experts) do now.
@JohannesNiederhauser
@JohannesNiederhauser 2 месяца назад
Have you watched the documentary “Das Netz“ by Lutz Dammbeck? It’s on RU-vid
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