deadmau5 Talks about the DAWS in General 

i use fl im a single male and i like to eat edm

can i use pro tools for edm?, i like the short cust, i rather just use one daw for everything

@@kokidchaz4790 Why Pro Tools?

when was that stream

He is more familiar with FL's old versions than the new versions, so...

I don’t get it, please explain :D

@@smallfry7304 can't be opened on windows

@@xXLeAkErXx k thx

This stream was from May 2020.

@@cestladope hush

Which operating systems is that compatible with? I’ve searched HIGH AND LOW for a daw that can run on my samsung smart fridge, but no luck. The fridge comes with built in speakers, so I don’t have to buy studio monitors! The problem is, hardly anyone uses the samsung smart fridge, they all just use mac and windows. I think its because the samsung smart fridge is so expensive. Although when you think about it, its a bargain because you are getting a high quality computer AND a refrigerator. I just wish they could add a built in weed whacker/pill dispenser/rubiks cube because those are common household items I use every day

@@smallfry7304 it might run on the Pixter which isn't the same as a smart fridge but just as versatile

mario paint is a gateway drug

@@superpie0000 rights it is . Mushrooms every day 😋

@@herpsmaltwatta if only they actually had no tolerance buildup

That's a fair comparison, it's not exactly open source but there's a huge community of people writing scripts for it and making themes

it is actually

And Seven Lions

@@fcz32 seven lions uses fl?

Moe shop and ujico snail too

@@arthurmilo8837 laxcity

Medasin

Exactly. In the previous century artists were limited by their budget and equipment... nowadays the only thing that can hold an artist back is their own mind. Make something!!!!

oh spare me all that “creativity” bullshit. I go on garage band and go to the loops it comes with I drag on random loops (sometimes don’t even listen to them before dragging them on) Then I get justin bieber to feature in it, and drag in a “We the best music” sample, and i have a grammy winning song

@@smallfry7304 Yeah because the grammys are silly and they aren't a measure of what's actually pushing boundaries or inspiring people

@@24karatHAMSTER dude ya just get some music about the vaginal canal and dance to it and your set

That’s true, but conversely you cannot get anywhere with free VSTs & plugins alone. That is the one area where creativity has almost nothing to do with it. You have to have some quality plugins, or your instrumentation & tracks will inevitably sound cheap & tacky

I went from Reaper to Ableton and almost nothing useful translates. Ableton is unlike any other daw. A lot of Reaper/Logic/Pro tools is interchangeable, but not Ableton.

@@christiandervishi I've had many people ask this. Unfortunately, it's not really a "one-click" process and requires a fair amount of setup. I was thinking about making some workflow videos about Reaper, and I'll probably will in the near future. I'll come back to this comment when I do!

@@thegigisup_studio subscribing for this i might try reaper sometime

Can you make a video about your layouts and what reaper looks like? It would be really handy to see what you did with reaper as Im a beginner.

Haha, it looks like you have automated and perfected your routine down to its atoms. That sounds great, you basically turned functional UX programmer overnight and didn't even realize it. Now on that note, did you also make some music while getting absorbed by this process? 😄

im a reaper user but pro tools is great for recording and comping takes etc but for actually producing it isn't very good

@@StevenSmethurst I hear ya but it's actually fine for anything you want to do. Ableton by comparison is far stranger in that it completely does away with the hardware metaphor. Most other DAWs pretty much mimic a hardware studio (Pro Tools obviously, Logic etc). The way things work in the real world. Which is probably useful and would translate if you found yourself in a situation where you need to work in that world. With Ableton everything seems to be an insert with a dry/wet knob on it. This might be convenient in software but try mixing with outboard in that way. It wouldn't work for lots of reasons. So I think in Ableton's case convenience has its price. Pro Tools just mimics how hardware studios work. That's a time honoured approach. With Ableton it feels like you're just chaining pedals (virtual) together. Or at least it looks that way to me as a casual observer. It has no correlation to anything real-world. You can do that in Pro Tools if you want. Most plugins nowadays have dry/wet knobs but you could instead setup an aux track and work with sends. Any kind of sidechain stuff is easy in Pro Tools. Or as easy as Ableton. When it comes to audio editing Pro Tools has the edge I would say in that it's minimalist in its approach (you don't have to execute coordinated hands movements to zoom in for example. It's just one key press) and the smart tool is a dream to use for fades and such. Anything Ableton does Pro Tools can match just different workflow (maybe the clip launch thing can't be mimicked in Pro Tools I don't know).

@@Screaming-Trees ye ableton was initially made with live performing and jamming in mind so excels in that area but all major daws now can do pretty much what the next daw does. so depending on personal use and workflow it's best to learn one and stick with it. if you plan on working in a actual studio recording bands etc. pro tools is handy to learn even if its not your main daw because its the industry standard and some bands will still insist on it but I don't think its as relative now as it was 10+ years ago.

@@StevenSmethurst Yup. ProTools is friggin' stuck in the 90s.

@@PedroPetracco with regards to Pro Tools’ pricing model (subscription based, on top Avid equipment and or dongles) not a fan and will not use it.

Once you get over the learn curve and start having a workflow that works for you. Using any other DAW after is an absolute pain because Reaper makes life easy if you want it to.

"It's the Zbrush of audio production" would have made more sense tbh

@@Aardvarked88 we all know that's what he meant. He's talking off the cuff.

No one talks shit about my baby

@@nanayawberko3212 he’s not shit talking, rather telling the truth.

@@Aardvarked88 ppl usually say it that way when the other parts of the analogy are obvious contextually

Curious as to what reason you use ableton for mastering specifically and don't just do it in FL

@@clydehawkins123 Not OP, but I do the same thing. I find the audio clip handling, latency, audio freezing, and parallel processing capabilities to be superior in Ableton. FL is super great for on-the-fly making stuff, dropping it in , bang-bam-pow, but then you turn everything into stems and it just turns into a game of trying to make FL Studio work the way you want it to, despite there being better programs out there for that.

I dont think the step sequencer etc. is such a big problem, but the mixer and routing etc. in fl studio is super goofy

i use FL for drawing drums and synths then mix it under bandlab cakewalk... i love FL's piano roll it's smooth AF

The piano roll is the best thing about FL. And going from FL to Abelton was definitely hard. FL makes it easy for anyone to sit down and start producing. But once you get Abelton you won't look back at FL. I haven't.

Or use a PC to produce music, “Uhh gee I would like to help you out with your Logic file, I really would, but since I mainly use a PC laptop I can’t, sorry.”

@@sawtooth808 I don't talk to Logic users 🤣

@@sawtooth808 fax i dont like anything apple beside phone

yeah i use reason as well, i really love how i can translate a lot of my workflow directly to most studios since a lot of the reason plugins are based off real equipment. we have an ssl desk at my university and its the exact same as reason hahaha

@@mikey9423 My style of mixing is heavily focused of equalizing well, and Reason was perfect for me.

Reason was my issh back in the day

I started with Reason, moved away because I because I believed it was too "limited," but eventually came back when I finally realized that being "limited" was actually one of its greatest strengths. It's just a straightforward, no BS DAW that keeps you focused on making music instead of doing things like endlessly seeking the perfect 3rd party dynamics processor for that Mongolian cow bell VST you found the other day and things like that.

@@fakesummer3942 Not to mention it's AMAZING rewiring features! :D

Or Bitwig

@@AFNacapella You mean crashes or jank?

@@sawtooth808 Bitwig is more annoying Ableton.

I learn the fundamentals with LMMS, if you can make a good 16 bar loops with just LMMS youre a fuckin god at that point

Yesss. Cubase->Ableton here too.

Then... Reaper 😄

@@Tubeinnit I am gonna run ableton. It's so more comfortable than any other DAW. A real pleasure to work with it.

If you use a PC I would not worry too much about working with Logic files, since Logic is exclusively Mac. But if you own a Mac, because Logic Pro X is &199, you would be hard pressed *not* to get it.

I think he was saying more so if you are gonna record instruments. FL studio does suck in that regard and probably has gotten better. At the end of the day his point was if you are gonna learn a daw learn one that is more common with others to avoid.

They all kind of do the same thing... Except for Ableton! Bunch of awesome and unique features.

I too made the switch from FL to Ableton. In the beginning I had to get used to the piano roll but honestly I dont want to go back now. I really like Ableton.

you can use all those vsts in ableton, along with many other FL plugins including the entire FL Studio itself

@@alsoeris yep, found out you can route FL into Ableton, best of both worlds!

You can use this plugins inside to Ableton is possible and nobody knows that. 😉

Reason is a pretty good DAW the most awesome producers use it for making those electro organic sounds

Their stock glue compressor is just Cytomic's "The Glue". It even has the logo on it.

Get Logic, FL is trash and youll get shackled to it. If another artist sends you files for a remix or something youll last weeks draging and editing clips.

Cubase->Ableton here too. Absolutely hate Logic.

get reaper it will be hard for some weeks until it becomes your second nature, 60$ for up to 7.99 version and with the way reaper is updated with version numbers it will take 2-3 years to reach 8.00 version.

@@bdlblob but I haven't got a Mac, far as I know they don't make a windows version any more. I have tried it years ago but knew nothing about back then so have no opinion on it now.

@@hemantakakati1103 I'm thinking about trying it but I really think a lot of this is just a matter of learning what you got rather than what you got. Ive only got a small number of plugins but they are good and know them inside out. Haven't made my mind up on FL studio yet but it definitely gets a bad rap more than it deserves.

same, my eyes and then brain glaze over when I look at ableton's UI. Just can't do it

lol

Huh! 😂

xD

With the new comping feature, stock sounds might now be the only thing that sucks about Ableton.

I used Cubase+Reason for several years. Great combo!

why u leave pro tools

@@kokidchaz4790 I bet he left ProTools because it's sort of outdated in general. It sucks for making beats, for instance. Only advantage is that it's the "" Industry Standard "".

@@kokidchaz4790I've adapted to way reason works and like it much better is why. Got a few beats on my channel to video game adventure's. May thy day be grand KoKid :D

Tru tru

People liking FL studio hate are stuck in 2010. Porter Robinson, Madeon, Feed Me, Avicii, Savant... it's like they don't exist or something.

🤣 true. Two descendants of an era when step sequencers were a separate category of music software. I suspect recording and handling stems is more difficult in LMMS than FL. I would like to learn it though…

@@crnkmnky cuz lmms is not that aimed to recording ya know its more midi based for recording i'd recommend ardour if we're talking linux

Yeah if you have the hardware gear. Otherwise you need to use plugins and it's the same as everything else

What's the problem with it? I'm still not sure what to use, Cakewalk or Reaper

@@athmaid try reaper I mean cakewalk has been around for while but idk not I would go to, maybe search something on it could be for you brotha🤘💯

I think you can do all of that within FL. FL is powerful as fuck, many people just don't realise it. Joel's right, though, it's unique and simple which makes switching a nightmare

I know, I use FL, that’s why I said other than, I wanna add some variety, it could be helpful should I receive a foreign project file, or if I’m in a certain mood, I’ve used other DAW’s in the past, including Ableton, so I think I can get a hang of it by spending time with them.

Meh, i hate using multiple DAWS. Ableton is enough

no

I know this comment is from two years ago, but I think playlists/track-takes have been optimised by most DAWs at this point. In REAPER, I think it happens automatically if you just loop it. Afterward the recording, you click on the takes that you want. If it looks too small after several loops, you can just zoom in vertically. Done.