'Dear Alice' Decommodified Edition | Solarpunk anime ambience with no ads 

I imagine they wanted to work on TV series and/or films (not containing any product placement) but could only get jobs in studios that produced animations for advertising agencies.

@@kbhasi or it was a personal passion project that got bought by a yogurt company

It’s SO Ghibli!

The Line is a great animation studio. They generally work on a cycle like this of picking up advertising projects to fund their personal ones for their channel that make no money because we can’t have nice things.

@@DeathnoteBBit is not remotely

surprised they didnt make the solar panels and fridge (and bus (and everything else]] chobani brand

Frr

@@JNJNRobin1337why would a yogurt brand have chobani solar panels?! 😂🤦‍♀️

@@DoritoCocoAnimations because if you arent buying brandname, you arent human

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I needed extra minute to register what you meant. Yes.

I love that it's taking back the word "commons" from its unfairly-negative connotations, by the way.

You think no ownership is a utopia? You know you can live as a socialist under Capitalism right? Yet you people never do because you don't like the results. Instead you want to force everyone under it until you realize it is a horrible way to live, but now it's too late, and so many will have to die to end your bad ideas

Would have been cool if they changed the letter in the end too. Nevertheless great work by comrade

And as you get older, you seem to care less and less about the first two.

I like cyberpunk for the aesthetics and shi and I have no idea what steam punk is, but I want to live in a solarpunk world

@@mel4346 steampunk is victorian style with lots of steam engine/technology

@@thefalconflame oh I just searched it up , it’s ugly

@@mel4346 you can see it in Bioshock games or Dishonored

it's a land of milk and honey, but that's the problem, this is a depiction of a society that still enacts great ecological and individual harm, but the kinds the typical solarpunk dreamer is still ok with :)

@@crispymoist3772 Sorry, ecological and individual harm how?

@@crispymoist3772 what do you mean?

I think those robots aren't just spawned, there is some company producing them

@@matttt6772 Solarpunk is high tech ecological world. We can produce things without making harmful emissions.

@@TheFreeBro Plastic recycling isn't viable at the scale required - almost no plastic actually gets recycled because it's so logistically difficult. Even then, recycled plastic is of limited use. Plastic in general needs to be phased out if the goal is a circular economy.

​​@@TheFreeBroGoogle "wishcycling". that said, the milk carton probably isn't recyclable either, though there are kinds of milk containers that can be!

​@@TheFreeBrolmao you don't understand that paper degrades and plastic doesn't what a clown

@@TheFreeBrothat you need a concept which first graders can understand explained to you is rather surprising.

What do you think goes into a solar panel?

He was a Fascist by the way

@@Bruh-el9js how? He was more of a medievalist Christian "nationalist (localist?).

@@pimchpim6748 Francoist all the way too

@@Bruh-el9jseven if that’s true, does that invalidate the quote?

@@Bruh-el9js How does it feel to breath only through your mouth?

Naussica of the Valley of the Wind is super good too

@@chaotickreg7024 Um... Nausicaa is one of my favorite anime movies but it is literally about a post apocalypse...

@@nexusoflife Yeah, I don't think America is going to give up its industrialism willingly and calmly. I think it's practical and realistic to prepare for a possibly devastated future. Some sort of industrial apocalypse could be in our future, and I think that attaches Naussica to the Solarpunk context perfectly.

@@chaotickreg7024 The U.S. may not exist as an entity at that point but I don't think devastation of the level seen in Nausicaa would happen either. Call me an optimist but I don't think we will totally blow ourselves up. But we certainly will confront all of our collective shadows before creating a much brighter society.

@@nexusoflife Sorry I maybe missed your point. Maybe Naussica isn't a Eutopia. I just think it shows a cool solarpunk aesthetic while being within a semi-probable future setting.

Thanks for commenting this. I have used it to aid in emotional processing.

Except the "will" is a belief not a true statement

@@UFOhunter4711 I mean history is quite good proof that the world keeps getting better.

I really needed to read this. Thank you.

​@@Antri-jd9jy it depends on perspective, it's a bit a nuance honestly.

But the big corporations like big oil, who have amassed their fortunes under exploiting literally everyone and everything, destroying the planet, want to protect their bottom line. So they have turned countless people into puppets who push back against literally anything that could result in this.

Nor completely sacrifice human input over robotic automation. The woman still needed to be there for each farming operation. I appreciate that. 💜✨️

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Why did they change it tho?

@@Dodogembul The implication is that it's supposed to be a utopia and nobody should be needing donations like that anymore, so it's shared between everyone in the community

@@AverageConsumer-uj8sm i hope that in the future, people will be able to live a life of peace like this

@@Dodogembul eco-socialism on Tumblr worded it well: From "donations" to "commons". It's a subtle change, but it makes a huge difference in the world-building of the video. The former implies that this big orchard belongs to an owner and that they're donating the fruits to "the less fortunate" (and, by extension, that poverty is still a thing); the latter implies that the orchard belongs to everyone and that the fruits are free to take in the spirit of solidarity. Waffle To The Left brought out the potential in this gorgeous video and made it an actual solarpunk utopia - without brands and without corporate pandering, complete with true common ownership over land and resources.

It really is absurdly far away. It's imagining a future in which, with so much automation, they still require a person to push go, on every task. The mind boggles at the implications. It's like farm work depicted here was designed for the illusion of human labor, like how Betty Crocker intentionally omits eggs from their mixes for the illusion of a human contribution to cooking at home. What the rest of society would look like, I don't have sufficient imagination for. When people make art like this, they don't have to worry about what's incentivising everyone's labor. This looks like a society in which human labor is artificially required for the sake the person.

​@@Perditionslol i'm imagining that they have all of these windmills and solar panels but they only contribute 10% of the power and theres actually a hidden nuclear power plant somewhere actually contributing, i mean, nuclear is green energy. if they want to go for subsistence farming like in that video it makes sense, since they would need 90% of the population to be rural to feed the population. Sorry for being a cynic, lol

@@eduardopupucon I appreciate the cynicism. It's not even cynical, it's just realistic. I mean, on one hand, the video was anime. It was meant to be idyllic and picturesque. ..Everything polished and pruned. But then people start romanticizing about it, and they're genuinely ideological about it. Realism, is what the world needs. Healthy realism prevents attempts at pursuing these idealistic futures from becoming another dystopia. Don't forget, every attempt at socialism had idealistic visions of the future. If only they didn't eliminate anyone who criticized or disagreed... The rational criticisms were what they would have needed to work out the kinks. They would have been criticisms that fell short of socialism, but, it could have worked better.

@@Perditions 1)Jesus Christ touch some grass. My field of study is sustainable energy and that's what I care, what I want to see. Once we will have it society will change accordingly and that's up people who are not me, thus I don't care.

@@Perditions you had a conversation all by yourselves... How did you end up talking about socialism?

I mean you can both appreciate the company for paying the artists in the first place and this guy for offering additional service.

It isn't the first time I've seen a commercial meant just to sell a product ended up being something more than that. Sometimes a message transcends the messenger.

of course it matters whether it's littered with ads and marketing. if you can't see how that matters, you have no soul.

You can tell the artists were passionate about this vision. That's usually how it goes. You work with what you got, and in some cases that is your employer

@@andrew5222 i feel that it's wrong to blame the consumer for consuming, especially when the ad is meant to play into their sensibilities and trick them into buying their products or trusting the company more. just tell people that chobani would've done something else if they think it would sell more. like absurdity, or sex appeal.

Agreed. Chobani can suck it, but the artists who worked on this project did a great job.

that's what hope and optimism feels like :')

The realization that this is perfectly possible, that we can get technology to work for _everyone_ was what made my eyes begin to tear up. This is not just some stupid pipe dream but eminently possible, and actively turned down by those in power. Tears tempered by hope for everything's sake that we can change this in time to save even a shadow of the planet. Murray Bookchin says that to treat the environment better, we need to start by treating each other better, and I couldn't agree more.

Damn now I‘m actually crying at work

Oh.. Your comment made me cry 😭... I hate those people in power who are making us all suffer....

it's hope. hope that everyone after the boomers slowly lost or simply wasn't born into. hope that it is STILL possible for us to stop all this we do and SETTLE for once, just so earth can loosen up and we can too.

how dare they make a living from their work

​@Sakurestu01 Chobani is a corporation, a corporation doesn't make a living. The people under a corporation make a living working for it. Or sometimes less than a living

This is an animation studio called "The Line" studio with animators making a living from their work. Their client is chobani.@@irecordwithaphone1856

@@irecordwithaphone1856 You're right, the corporation as a whole doesn't make a living - it makes it possible for the people who work in it to make a living.

​@@Sakurestu01exactly! 💯

steampunk is fun like cyberpunk is fun, in a fictional setting. that doesn't mean i want to start feeding children to looms again, or that i want to sell the rights to my DNA to amazon so jeff bezos can clone me to use as a labour pool. but solarpunk is the kind of world i would want to live in, its the kind of world worth fighting for.

Oh I'd love that.

*smack* awwww society goals

you can't bring a refrigerator without mining metal.

​@@mrosskne "I didn't see a mine in the video, therefore the futuristic society doesn't mine." Did you even think before commenting, or...?

@@recycledwaste8737 why do solar punk videos never say anything about how the society actually functions or where people get their resources?

@@mrosskne Because this is a 1 minute feel-good animation, not an academic exploration into the viability of a Solarpunk society.

Yeah, I wouldn't mind if my children's or grandchildren's generation start school 2 hours later at 9am and end school 2 hours later at 5pm. School(at least in America) is too early in that developing kids need a lot of sleep to grow properly, so having them get those extra hours in will likely make them more focused and energetic the next day. Also, this could incentivize eating dinner early at the ideal time at 5-6pm ish so that kids would have that extra boost in doing homework and other hobbies for the rest of their waking night hours.

​@@solitarycrow what time is sunrise in your country and what i time do classes open?

yeah I hate having electricity and running water.

@@mrosskne yeah I wonder who *PUT IN THE WORK FOR THAT BE ATTAINABLE*

@@Jarjar-X Corporations.

@@mrosskneThe kind of corporate worship you're displaying makes me sad.

​@@mrosskne Corporations did? No wonder the entire electric grid in Texas stopped working a few years back and Flint still has poisoned water.

Literally everything you describe in your last sentence already exists

​@@mechanicalmonk2020We already have all the tech we need. We just need to apply it properly

Not even the cyberpunk path. There's more surveillance and ugliness, and less cool neon and body mods.

@@MaureenLycaon the neon aesthetic i feel like was never meant to be cool and just a way to compare the future to modern Hong Kong

Scandinavia is the region closest resembling this video, unfortunately because of globalization that's not the case anymore. People come here and bring their shit with them

We may have to go one direction far enough to collectively realize it's the wrong path before backtracking and heading in the right direction.

@@meisrerboot Which people...

this is how humanity should live in a world like this, but the leaders currently are working on making only their class to live like this, while the rest of humanity are slaves building their dream cities and dream farms.

Socialist

@@user-lr6hw4dq4t Ah you got us there bro

@@L3m0nate If socialist were right, sovyet wouldn't be collapsed

What's wrong with capitalism? Why can't the society displayed in the video be achieved under capitalism?

my thoughts exactly

Maybe, but one can dream, no? One can hope for a better future.

By this point in the future we've likely achieved autonomous asteroid mining.

there are many dead worlds rich in resources in the galaxy

Because its the only -punk thats genuinely hopeful for the future of humanity.

@@JeremyGleneskThis exactly! Other -punks aren't meant to be all sustainable sunshine and roses like Solarpunk is. That's not a slight against either--Cyberpunk and Solarpunk are spoken with the same motive. Cyberpunk is a cautionary tale: don't let society become this. Solarpunk is a wishful tale: let's make it this instead.

This animation is like looking at megacorp ceos in a cyberpunk setting and saying "wow I wanna live in a cyberpunk world" Chances you in a solarpunk world, you'd be one of the millions of slaves mining colbalt for the lucky few

They have anti-gravity tech, and you can't believe that they have some GMOs that repels insects ?

Based SolarSerfdom in a SolarFeudal future

Well it is solarPUNK can't have a punk setting if it's not dystopian

Or lost. This animation is like looking at the ceos of megacorps in a cyberpunk setting and aspiring to that. Not seen in solar punk is the million of slave miners so that these lucky few can live like this. This is a punk setting, but the punk is off screen. Much like how in our modern world we ignore slavery because it happens half a world away

Same

So real

Fallout

Chernobyl happened

I'm not sure I understand your comments about the tomatoes.

@@enekaitzteixeira70I0 Fresh tomatoes don't taste good when you store them in the fridge.

@@IgneousExtrusive But how come? Surely the cold has to preserve them better than leaving them in the open, right?

Me when I learn that grasslands exist 😲

@@Reptile1404 how do you know that this was a grassland before the farm existed?

I'm not gonna lie dude, floating cars are cool af

i was thinking this! i dont like when things needlessly hover

@@lightningvolt3150 yeah but does your kettle really need to float?

Based

Gonna cry?

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it." - Jack Handey Edit: they can't predict an attack from us if they don't know what is an attack.

Found the US Military's account

@@lightningvolt3150 I'm sorry. Am I wrong?

Yeah, it lines up with this being an advertisement paid for by a corporation. Nuance isn't so valued there. It looks pretty, and it feels green, but I'm sure things would pan out far differently from a bunch of hovering robots with tube arms if anything solarpunk came about in the real world. Instead of all this high tech stuff, I think we could take a lot of inspiration from indigenous food systems. Of course, our populations are much, much larger than those which developed any indigenous food systems, so I wouldn't expect exact parallels, but our agricultural practices could be much more sustainable, environmentally friendly, and efficient than the overproducing monocultures we have now- it's a matter of implementation rather than invention. That isn't to say technology, oil, or electronics aren't good or useful. I'm opposed to car-centric infrastructure, private jets, and bananas coming in thick plastic containers, but I wouldn't want healthcare providers to stop using plastics that ensure sanitary conditions just to be an inkling more 'sustainable'. A lot of environmentalists are hardliners against the use of any oil, and I see where they're coming from, but I think the real goal is to use oil and metal sustainably- recycling what we can, opting for alternatives where reasonable, and disincentivizing pollutive practices that are done for profit, not out of necessity. You're completely right that, from where we are now, we do depend on oil. I hope we can agree, though, that it's worthwhile to diminish this dependency in favor of more environmentally friendly practices, and that this may lead to carbon neutrality- or even negativity- down the line.

Okay, but so what? Harvesting a very minute amount of oil and using it for highly specific products is not the problem. Mass harvesting and consumption is the issue. No one is arguing that oil should never be used, ever. They are arguing that maybe, possibly, we shouldn't be so fucking dependant on it for our energy needs, and perhaps we should look to alternatives to provide our energy consumption needs without damaging the climate.

@@JeremyGlenesk ^^

Pretty much, the only way solarpunk could ever even come close to being a thing, is with a mass depopulation event, resetting humanity to sub 1 million people