Same here. I have found that I write entries on my Mac and then copy/paste them into Journal. It works, but it seems unnecessarily convoluted. Plus it means I've a growing pile of entries on the Mac, too.
That will be my plan in the interim too. I will type everything in my other journal that I already have in pages and just paste it into this journal. The new journal will be on probation, since the Pages journal is already pretty nice @@WilliamGallagherThis is the second time that I've watched your video about Journal. But I want to wait until the official public release of iOS 17.2 because I've grown to dislike beta software, and I don't want to break anything that already works nicely.
The best alternative (for the moment) I think is Day One. Works on Mac, iPad, iPhone, and Apple Watch. Can also use an unencrypted journal via Day One on Windows/other platforms and access everywhere else. Hopefully Apple makes the Journal app accessible for more than just their phones.
I have used DAY ONE ever since it first came out, and I am very excited about this new journel from Apple. I only hope they bring it to iPad soon. So far, I am loving it.
I'm with you there. I do find that I keep putting off adding anything because it's on the iPhone and I'm already typing at my Mac, but I hope it comes to Mac and iPad soon.
Thank you so much. I love the video and it made me smile at multiple occasions. I am on the treadmill right now so your input regarding exercise was hilarious. Keep up the good work as long as you love what you’re doing.
I'd agree, except on the very first time I opened it, its top suggestion was something to do with the last time somebody had said something nice to me. That very morning, a fella had told me that whenever he runs a workshop, he "channels my inner William Gallagher". I have huge respect for that man so this meant an enormous amount -- and I would have forgotten it.
@@WilliamGallagher I understand that but it feels like brainwashing when tech tries to convince us to think positively and be grateful. It especially harmful when our true feelings are concealed behind a vail of toxic positivity. I am sure a lot of people will use and like the app. I will stick with the analog tools :)
I suppose if you think they are mandatory you’d have a point. For me, with cognitive issues, it might be helpful. Heck, there are plenty of analog writers who pay for books or card decks with prompts. I suppose it’s time for them to go digital.
You can change the settings that will allow you to start a journal entry immediately and bypass the suggestions. You can still get the suggestions by hitting the button you mentioned
And again: I would love to film a video-chat with you about all things Apple & writing - I bet my viewers would LOVE that, if you were ever so inclined!
My family some days plays a game we call HAL, where we’re must tell each other that days high, that days low, and an appreciation (grateful) for that day…and we must be specific, like a little specific morsel of that day for each category. I think I’ll use Journal to record my HAL for each day so that I can look back on it years from now.
i used to do this with an old friend, but we called called it rose, bud , thornes :) rose for the good things in our days, thornes for the bad things, and buds for what we are looking forward to do tomorrow
Greetings, thank you for creating this video it was very informative, I have been using notes in my phone and iPad as a diary for years now and I enjoy using it, I was unsure about journal but you have made things clearer for me. Thank you.
I lost years of data in the Day One Journal app due to a glitch on their end. This was while living abroad where I was recording memories of my travels. Very disheartening. I am looking forward to Apple's journal app and expecting a better experience from them.
That happened to you, too? It was ferociously annoying, wasn't it? I spent hours and hours and managed to get back some text, but not much, and absolutely no images. Every time someone praises Day One since I have ground my teeth and occasionally other people's teeth.
Looking forward to trying out Journal. Wish it could be on MacOS. I'm not wild about writing on my phone. Maybe I need to get a small keyboard for it. I might be inclined to write on the phone then. What I've often wished for is a totally portable system of wearable devices that I could use to write while on the bus, like a smart glass sort of thing for a display (wearable display glasses), and a (split?) keyboard that would attach to my hands and respond to finger movements. I spent so many years commuting to work and trying to write on the bus while being bounced about and having to hold onto my laptop computer. Something wearable would have been so helpful during those years. I think we're getting closer, but now I'm retired and mostly writing at home, at a desk, so when wearable computing does arrive, it will come too late for me. Of course, being the gear geek that I am, I'll probably check it out, anyway. Wearable computing for writers. That has the sound of a potential 58keys video... Hmm... 😉
@@WilliamGallagher Well, aside from the fact that I was getting too old to work as hard as I was at my very busy computer tech support job, I retired so that I could have more time to write. While i was still working my job, I had far too little time to write. I would write during my commute on the bus, maybe write for a while in the evening, after I got home from work, and usually, I would write on the weekend. Often, on Saturday, I would declare a writing day and go to a coffee shop somewhere and write for a few hours. Now that I'm retired, I have a lot more time to write. But still, it's surprising how many distractions come up that try to steal my writing time. So I watch videos like yours, that teach me how to be more productive and efficient with my time. Having the right equipment helps. I used to work on Windows PCs, until I realized one day that I was spending an inordinate amount of time trying to get my PC to work faster and not nearly enough time on my writing. That's when I decided to ditch Windows for good. Working on Macs helps, but like I say, if I'd had something more portable, like a wearable computer, it would have been far more convenient to write while being bounced about on the bus. Anyway, thanks for your video. Looking forward to learning more about Journal.
@mbullwriter well, okay, if you’re going to be practical about it… I hear retired people saying they don’t know how they ever had time to work, but I’m covering my ears.
I feel like Apple is generally quite slow to update their apps, like the years between notes and reminders updates and how Freeform hasn’t meaningfully changed in the year since its release.
Other apps in these niches are updated monthly, bi monthly, quarterly and basically whenever needed. Apple waits for every big iOS update making those updates well received of course but painfully slow to incorporation.
You're right. It seems to go in waves, though; I think Reminders suddenly got a series of updates and then they move on to something else. Do you use Freeform much?
@@WilliamGallagher I've used Freeform once for a particularly complicated book timeline that I needed to see visually to fully understand. I still reference the timeline frequently, so I guess I'm a regular user at this point. I've been getting into OmniOutliner because of your review. I really like the columns feature in combination with collapsible rows, so I may spring for the pro version when my trial runs out
That's so interesting @@JonathanAlder I would not have thought of Freeform for this and at this minute I am struggling with a fantastically convoluted timeline. It is now all in OmniOutliner, but I might see if looking at it all a different way helps.
Very informative. Thanks. I'm hoping they eventually add a search function and a way to export your entries. I want to switch over from Day One, but those are very useful features.
I am so very, very certain that I've done a video like that -- but I cannot find it. Strange how you just do something every week and the next thing you know there are so many to search through. If I can find it, I'll pop the link here but otherwise I am tempted to try doing it again. If it's long enough ago that I can't remember it, surely I have changed at least some apps, right? Thanks for asking.
@@WilliamGallagher I understand. I have had a few little issues and I have found their support to be very responsive. I have a personal subscription. I am so glad I’m back to EN though. Rediscovering all the reasons I liked it in the first place. I hope BS keeps up the good work.
I've been using DayOne from Bloom Built Inc for years until they went subscription and it's very, very good. However, they went down the subscription route which I hate - especially Adobe! - so if this Apple Journal is good enough and will allow me to import tens of thousands of historic journal entries, then I'm sold. I don't need or want prompts or the photo montage BS - simple is better in my book. Here's hoping it syncs with all Mac OS devices too.
I've found myself writing entries on my Mac and then pasting them into Journal on the iPhone. The fact that you can copy on one device and then immediately paste on the other makes it okay enough. But yes, Journal should surely be on the Mac too. There's no import function as yet, by the way.
I'm anxiously awaiting Journal on my iPhone. Been a Day One user for years; I'm dying to rid myself of that $50 annual subscription. Question:do you think there will ever be a way to transfer Day One entries into Apple Journal?
Probably not. I could be wrong -- I remember that Apple Notes was able to import from Evernote, though I can't recall whether that was something Apple did or just a frustrated Evernote user created. Does Day One let you export everything?
Doesn’t sound like it’s for me. I’ve tried Journaling in various apps - from Pages to Notes. Ended up using Scrivener. Not ideal - but haven’t found anything totally suitable. This seems more like an app suited for the “kids” ( my meal; selfies; etc ). Rather than an app for thoughts and daily ideas.
I do quite like the journal app but I cant help feel that there are more benefits from journaling with a notebook and pen than just typing on your phone.
There's an argument that the act of physically handwriting fixes ideas in your head more than just typing. But I simply cannot read my handwriting, and I can type quickly, so I've no option. Mind you, that sounds bad, like I wish there were an option for me: I relish typing, I think through the keys, so I'm happy. But there is a bit of me that envies you.
You can write a journal in Notes and I’m sure many do. But it won’t do any of the things Journal does with pulling in everything you’ve done on your phone. So it won’t suggest the photos you took today, the music you listened to, where you were, all of that. I really like Journal but being solely on the phone is a huge disadvantage.
My suggestions have completely stopped working, I use Apple products for most things so it's kind of annoying it couldn't pick out "did some work on Macbook pro, listened to podcast from X creator on drive to work" before it broke
I think I’ll stick with Apple pages, just a word processor I know but I can add pictures and it backs up to the cloud as well as export and print off a hard copy. More importantly I can type it out on a IPAD or a phone and lock it up with a password. It’s a digital equivalent of your wife writing in a notebook and it works for me. 10 years is a long time In technology terms, I have a feeling everything you write in a digital journal will become obsolete by 2033 I want to look back on mine forever. Keep it simple is my motto
There is an argument that all software ceases to be at some point, and that you can therefore be locked in to something you may not be able to open later. I still have some WordPerfect for Mac documents, for instance, and it's a struggle to get into them now. The solution would appear to be to save everything in plain text, because all text editors, all word processors, all page layout apps now open plain text and presumably always will. But of any of them, I'd imagine Pages and Word will be with us forever.
How this compare to journey in the past i have use it for few months but it was paid. Any idea if i could tranfer my data from there to this apple app?
I like your style. I find it somewhat surprising that you have a notable level of expectation regarding technology's ability to retain fed information. It’s crucial to recognize that technology has its limits, and absolute trust might not be a good idea.
Apple hasn't publicly released 17.2 yet: I'm using a test version. But as I say in the video, I really expected it would be out by now. It must be moments, moments.
I hate when that happens. It almost feels like someone is watching me type, then when I'm almost done, an ad comes on and the comment disappears. Usually on replies.
Now, of course, I'm dying to know. When I've entered text into a publisher's system, though, the very last thing I do is Select All and copy. So if something goes wrong, and it does, then I've got the text safe. Actually, because I use a clipboard manager, I have the last thing I copied plus all the ones before. I'm now going to use this right here on RU-vid comments just in case.
@tripley66 if it helps, Facebook decided that this particular video was inaccurate about the situation in Gaza. I suppose one can’t really argue against that since my video didn’t even bother to mention the place or the situation.
I had not noticed and now I’ll never fail to. But I’m tickled by it: an app for recording what you do over time looks like a period tracker. That’s tremendous.
As long as it isn't at least on the iPad I don't see myself using it. Even typing out just a couple of sentences on the iPhone is far from a pleasant experience.
I’m finding I will write on the Mac,then copy-paste it into Journal on the iPhone. I like that Apple lets you just do that, copy on one device and immediately paste on the other, but it’s not ideal at all.
@@WilliamGallagher that seems a good work around for the moment indeed. But they do really have to make it for at least the iPad as well. That would also allow us to draw with the pencil.
I obviously can't recommend Day One but I completely get that it is vastly more fully-featured, and also very popular. So in terms of capability, absolutely, Day One trounces Journal. But I fear that a free Journal will prevent people buying Day One. On the other hand, I hope that a free Journal will introduce people to the idea of journalling on iPhone, and that could boost Day One plus the many alternatives.
Notes is a general-purpose thing where you can pop in temporary items like a shopping list or collate hundreds of PDFs for reference. Journal is solely for writing a diary and it aims to help by prompting you with everything you’ve used your iPhone for today. Notes can have folders and smart groups; for instance I have a Patreon folder that contains all the instructions I need to remember for that project. Notes is also built for being searched where, at least at present, Journal is very weak on searching.
I’m sorry, I was wrong about how soon it would come out for everyone. I don’t know why this time seems to taking longer than usual, but it must be soon. There are times when features are not available everywhere - there are crosswords in Apple News+ in the US but not here in the UK where I am, for instance, but I can’t imagine a reason why Journal wouldn’t be everywhere.
@@WilliamGallagher exactly.. i donnot know why it is not available worldwide!! Maybe they wanted to see how the app works in the US first then they will spreed it?! Who knows what marketing or thoughts they have to do it like that. They have there ways sometimes 😄
Of all the companies, I'd trust Apple with my data most. They are the American company that had a very public spat with the FBI over not releasing data the government wanted. Mind you, at least the FBI actually asked them. Here in the UK we had our Prime Minister say our government was in deep discussion with Apple about giving us backdoor access to iOS -- and Apple responded "Who?"
Only if the developer allows it. As yet we can’t know because it’s still in beta but Apple is emphasising iPhone-only so much that I doubt it. I’d like to be wrong, but.
@11:44 How you deduced that Apple’s Journal app is a “knockoff” of Day One is baffling to me, especially since it’s still in beta. They’re both journaling apps-frankly that’s where the similarities start and stop. What a highly reductive and missing leading thing to say. I expect more deliberate and nuance commentary from this channel.
