Fun Fact: The voice actor who plays Batman in this episode, also plays Lex Luthor in both Iron Man vs Lex and Lex vs Doom. This is basically him against Iron Man again.
@@NO0Kn0OK Well to be fair that's kinda Iron Man in a nutshell, without his AI guiding his battles there's many times he probably wouldn't win with just the armour alone. He's an engineer, not a combattant. It makes sense that his fighting skills is lacking and needs something to ensure he doesn't fall behind.
see, what happens IN the fight TECHNICALLY doesn't matter, only the result does. The actual way they kill the opponent doesn't matter. It's a cinematic essentially instead of saying "this guy would win". The explanation AFTERWARDS is the proper argument area.
He's talking about everything in the context of he made his own things and upgraded as everything else got stronger. Iron man needs time and strength, Batman needs time and knowledge.
@@multiverse_media2023 Referring to tier lists, in which something is ranked by comparison to others doing the same thing. Generally, you only see tiers brought up in standard conversation when mentioning S tier (unbeatably good), A tier (among the best, but there are still better ones), C tier (average, boring, mediocre), or F tier (pure unmitigated hot garbage) examples.
The biggest difference between them is how they approach a problem: Bruce can counter anything and will use all the info he has against his opponent to the fullest. Tony rigs the playing field in his favor and sets up at the very least half a dozen contingencies for every plan. So while Bruce might even be able to counter Tony's plans as fast as he comes up with them, he by default will always play catch-up, placing him at an inherent disadvantage.
@@triplemoyagames4195 thats like saying Batman needs assistance everytime he uses something from his utility belt. Tony built his suits, they are an extension of himself
While I was rooting for Bats mainly because he’s been my personal favorite hero since I was a kid I admit the only knowledge I have of iron man comes from the MCU movies so I had no idea he was this powerful in the comics! so good game tony good game. 🤝
Fun Fact: with this win from Iron Man, Marvel and DC are now tied in Death Battle with 12 wins each, so the next time Death Battle does a Marvel VS DC fight, it will be the tie breaker
Not wrguing about the fightd Marvel did win, it is just funny because most of them are almost handing Victories to Marvel. Like, DC has SO MANY dtupidly OP guys they have to choose weaker heroes and put them against Marvel's stronger heroes do its not Marvel losing every battle. Which is commendable
@@bradleybarnett1469 Quite a few blatantly unfair matchups have come from trying to follow "throughlines", or following through on matches we've seen. In fact, both Bane v. Venom (blatantly favoring Marvel) and Batman Beyond v. Spider-Man 2099 (blatantly favoring DC) have come along the exact same throughline. That, or appeasing a fanbase directly after a match they realized too late would be a stomp (eg. Natsu v. Ace *directly after* Zoro v. Erza). In fact, I'd argue it goes both ways; there isn't a single repeat universe on the show that hasn't gotten a matchup that doesn't blatantly feel like giving a toxic, upset fanbase a free win. Dragon Ball gets Android 18, DC gets Darkseid, Marvel gets Black Widow, Naruto gets Naruto himself, Street Fighter gets Ryu's salty runback, etc.
@@elijahpadilla5083 yeah. The Naruto one was... Interesting. Because some of the logic they used was a bit difficult. Like, if you wanna get technical, Ichigo is stated to be able to hurt Yhwach, who was powerful enough to alter the fabric of the universe...
@@elijahpadilla5083 there is an exception: kingdom hearts. Although in both cases it was pitting maybe galaxy+ characters against ones that are explicitly multiversal on the low end
That doesn't even count as assistance when the AI is only following the orders of its creator...which btw, Tony actually builds ALL of his suits, Batman doesn't even build majority of his gadgets, let alone his suits.
In the end, Tony is a far better inventor and Batman needed a suit invented FOR him by his friends in the justice league just to be able to match Tony’s God Buster. At least Tony makes his own shit! Take your L’s Lex and Bats! Okay… maybe I’m a bit too excited by this win, but can anyone blame a guy? This debate has been going on for a LONG time! And finally we have our answer! Sorry if I was rude though
@@matthewriddle2698 I mean,Death Battle isn't always right. Plus,comics change a lot so who knows? The result might change in the future. But I'm surprised they didn't use the Final Batsuit
@@eliasgalindo5578 my theory is the fact the one chance and only chance the final batsuit has is the mind wipe thing it can do. They most likely didn’t wanna touch that match up lol
@@Blaze_the_cat_ its not just a mind wipe so it can't be psychic blocked by tonys suit. It is literally a reality altering suit the rewrites your mind piece by piece and it also soloed the justice league minus superman.
The thing I should bring up being a massive difference. It’s pretty inconsistent on who develops Bruce’s gear while Tony is almost always the reason why he the gear he has
Dwayne and Jazz, awesome reaction! And in case you guys didn’t know, this was Batman’s 4th battle in Death Battle, and this marks his 3rd loss out of his 4 battles.
i dont know too much about the reverse flash, I just immediately assumed goku black would win. but please do tell me things reverse flash has done cause now I'm interested :)
@@Ozonespot7 Guy legit is too fucking fast for Black to hit. Guy can become intangible and dodge all his attacks. Its a complete stomp in Reverse Flash's favor.
@@videogamer678 but how fast is Goku Black? The dragon ball universe is pretty much broken when it comes to power scaling. He should be fast enough to keep up with Reverse Flash, or at least be able to get to that point
@@s.c.6989 The dbz universe is broken compared to other animes but does not compare in any way shape or form to comic book verse like DC and Marvel then you go a step further with toon verse. Idk much about reverse flash but since he scales to other speedsters like barry allen and Wally west he easily stomps goku black.
@@s.c.6989 Well, since DC Superheroes are unofficial Looney Tunes characters. I would imagine Reverse Flash is faster than speed, and can circle a thousand universes before Sonic can blink.
@@bluemonkey8569 i think if you were to find Death Battle's Twitter page, some comments house what the guy u replied to is lol-ing about (ik bc i have an account, but its on a time trial.)
It's worth noting that Tony has also been trained in hand-to-hand combat by Cap himself, because even Cap recognized that Tony relying entirely on his armor suits was a weakness that could be exploited if an enemy were to corner Tony where he had no access to his various armors. And Batman himself has outright admitted before that if he were to fight Cap, there's a good chance that Cap would win that fight, though it would take Cap a while to pull it off. Tony is no slouch in a fight, even without his armor. Sure, Batman would have been a better hand-to-hand fighter in the end, but not enough to just totally flatten Tony. And with Tony's armor at his disposal, it was honestly just a matter of time before Tony landed the killing blow. Tony simply had far too many options available, and Batman was racing against the clock (literally) before the Hellbat killed him, so Tony could have very easily just bought time with his massive arsenal of armors until the Hellbat finally killed Batman through overuse.
Not to mention the onboard A.I. can pick apart Batman's fighting prowess and create countermeasures for Stark - just like what he did to Cap in Civil War. He was getting trounced badly, until F.R.I.D.A.Y. analyzed Cap's fighting data and began to create countermeasures to fight back and turn the tables... until he lost thanks to Bucky sacrificing that artificial arm and Cap damaging the Arc Reactor with the shield he uses.
Bro, final bat suit, literally didn't show up at all, why? Cuz he would've won with it, it would've been GG because how does Tony get 50 suits but Batman one
@Shawn Kuhn Older models of the Godbuster can compete against entities with much higher levels of reality warping - like the Celestials. The more recent version of the Godbuster annihilated the E-Scape (a whole cyber-universe) in one shot. Not to mention Stark made an armor out of an entire cyber-universe - in the events he doesn't have any armors on hand.
@@UltimastrikerX Not to mention that Deathstroke has precog abilities on par with Friday's fight pattern analysis, and then Bats COMPLETELY CHANGED his fight patterns and still kicked Deathstroke's ass.
I can't forget that line: it's an INJUSTICE that batman will need AVENGING, but iron man was in a whole different LEAGUE. Subliminal messages are everywhere
Especially with a literal set of iron man armor that lives inside of him, aside from that he knows Taekwondo, karate, boxing, not to forget being good at most midair combat and is generally pretty fucking fit.
Yeah Ironman's tech at this point will wash whatever batman has but they're both brilliant minds so they could use just about anything and would still pack a punch to the enemy.
I think you're confusing FORGING with BUILDING. Most consistent versions of Batman has always designed AND built all his suits, gadgets, batmobiles, batplanes, bat-tanks, etc BEFORE handing the BLUEPRINTS to Lucius Fox for MASS PRODUCTION. Overall, I'd say Tony is better at ROBOTICS and Bruce is better at AUTOMOBILE ENGINEERING. But they are BOTH EQUAL when it comes to the broader field of MECHANICS and COMPUTER SCIENCE.
@@thehelldragon314 they both build their own .Me saying they can use about anything to build was to mean even when they're captured or stranded, they can still improvise. At the end of the day Tony's tech is considered ahead of Bruce's because thats the one thing he has to rely on in battle.
@@Cibbic Well if you just consider Mechsuits and Armors, then yes. But those are not the only things that fall under the category of "tech". If you include, AUTOMOBILE/AEROSPACE ENGINEERING, ASTRO-PHYSICS, BIO-CHEMISTRY, etc, then I'd say overall, Bruce is a step ahead.
As a huge Batman fan the match was pretty good and evenly matched but Tony had this one especially with those nanos, its ok to agree with it i still love batman more then ironman. Facts is Not every Dc hero can beat Marvel and not Every Marvel hero can beat DC, Fair Match Good Game Tony
Man I wonder how this fight would look like if Batman uses all of his suits because eventhough this was a great battle, it was basically Hellbat vs all of Ironman's suits. I was hoping to see other stuff Batman's Insider suit, Justice Buster,(eventhough it's specifically designed for the justice league) and final Bat Suit in this fight.
I'm not sure if you know this, but if it was put into the analysis, it was factored into the victor. They didn't use other suits due to time and budget constraints.
Wait a second. I just realized. Tony had enough preparation to know who Bruce was and find him on the watchtower as well as understand that he was dangerous enough to warrant sneaking nanobots into his body in the first five minutes of the fight mean that Batman new Tony to. And can you honestly tell me that Bruce would have been able to sleep at night without devising some kind of countermeasure for him. It's not like he's any stranger to nanotechnology. Just sayin, if you're going to give both characters all their comic feats at least give them the same levels of preparation.
@@brandondgalarza04 it's entertaining because it's accurate. Don't yuck my yum because I disagree. I'm just saying if you're going to be fair, be fair. Both guys like to rely on preparation so either give neither preparation and put them in a cage match and see who comes out or give both preparation to an equal and fair degree. Edit: Reading this back it sounds way more aggressive than I meant it. Just read this in a casual tone lol
We know both r insane preppers & geniuses. I like Bats too, but the Bat fanboys gotta realize IM's in a whole different league with the tech game. Hellbat & Elem X r Bats' top dogs & Stark's got armors that hsits on both(I won't even include the Justice Buster). Stark owns the armor schtick, there's no out-prepping that IMO.
I like putting it this way it’s kind of like having Batman fight Superman without Batman knowing anything about superman That’s how I like to put it at least
Nah, because that fight has inevitabilities. This fight is useless to have prep because it wouldn't help Batman with someone like Tony. Honestly, it would give Tony the advantage because it would give him a chance to build a suit specifically to counter the Hell Bat while Batman doesn't even build his own weapons and wouldn't really be able to achieve anything with his prep. As brilliant as Batman is with his prep, it's as a detective and finding weaknesses in opponents. However, Tony is a normal man who builds his own suit and would be coming in with a completely new armor. So, Bruce is not going to find anything there, and there's no way in hell he would ever in a million years hack Friday on his own.
:58 There was a scene in one of the Iron Man Movies where Tony held his own against some armed Gunmen with one of there Guns and the Arm from his Suit just after freeing himself from capture in an Enemy base
Now that you say that I really wonder what it would be apart from the final bat suit. Emp's don't work, suffocation won't work, brute force won't work, and weak points won't work. Maybe the crap he tried pulling on the flash with the light speed vibration bullet
@@Trigger-ub6xn The problem is that Tony is a genius prepared for anything. He is a normal man with no super powers under those suits, so they are designed to compensate for anything. Especially the God Buster would have no such weaknesses if he is able to compete with reality warpers like those they said he did.
yeah batmans intellect is easily on par with ironman...genius intelligent strategist..scientist and captain america in terms of fighting ability ( minus the superhuman abilities) all in one and batman has contingency plans too
Tony Stark without a suit would beat Bruce Wayne without a suit mostly because stark has nanotech that is literally in his bones.... If it was without suit powers THEN Tony wouldn't win
It's because of marvel fans, if I remember correctly when batman won against captain america alot of marvel fan boys got mad and im pretty sure it's popularity contest now so they don't get hate
Death battle is very wrong and biased, Batman can easily dodge a lot of iron mans attacks. In the comics THEY SAID THAT HE HAS “infinite knowledge” so he should be much smarter, and Batman is much more skilled, and his his hand to hand combat is WAY better Batman slays
Wrong, Tony's prep time can contend with his, also Superman with prep can beat Batman who frequently admits Superman would beat him whenever the question comes up. You're just biased.
@@Bleeperblopper497 Right. What people also don't understand is that all of Batman's "contingency plans" for the other league members are under the predilection they don't go full on evil. Because we've seen what happens when Superman was infected by Doomsday's cells and became Superdoom. He immediately went to Bruce and beat him to within an inch of his life before he could even do anything.
I really thought for sure Batman was going to win at the start, didn't count on iron man using the nano suit in that way. Can't fault Stark for his ingenuity and creative resourcefulness, pretty much have to have that to get a leg up on the Mother F****** Batman. But the statistics don't lie no matter my hero preference.
@@beanhead5398 that's true, there were issues I took with some of their data on All Might during the bout with Might Guy. Though I don't know if it would have changed the overall results.
Aww...that's cute! Jazz knows so little about Iron Man that she thinks he isn't a fighter...even though he has received hand-to-hand training from Captain America, Black Widow, Black Panther, Shang Chi, Iron Fist and many more quite regularly.
Batman fought against people that were more smarter and were around the same league of tech just as Tony Stark, example being Lex Luther and Batman bodied them.
I find it funny how they like to power scale that hellbat suit to be more powerful than Batman's six-dimensional Sue even though it literally rewrite people as well as it moved multiple Suns to a different galaxy
@@kingkb54 than godkiller can survive celestials they can create species they created the mutant gene and they can just wipe existence and create a new one entirely
Tony does have more better stuff than the League or the Avengers. He’s Definitely overcompensating on something. That explains how Morgan Stark was born.
did he? he just seemed to have way more at his disposal than bats did. you put a karate man in a bat suit against a mecahnical god..not surprised at the outcome since bats had no plot armor
@@antiscopez1571 I’m all fairness they did him dirty in this one. Batman lost cause tony put that baño suit in him, but Batman’s whole thing is that he a ninja and always observant to believe tony got it on him without him noticing is ludicrous. They also always portray batman as a thug. They talk about how smart he is then never actually show him doing something smart.
Hey guys, this is a bit off topic, but something I'd suggest you give a watch: What if you talked in Subnautica? by Press Start to Laugh. It's freaking hilarious.
@@wassimsisko3908 it just means that the winners has stronger plot armor than Batman but captain America has a weaker plot armor than baty-bat. Heh it’s a battle of plot armors
There’s a lot of problems I have with this battle, what with the feats they used for both the Hellbat and Godbuster armors being exaggerated by quite a bit. Like the Hellbat beating Darkseid never happened and if they had read the comic they would clearly see it barely made a scratch on Darkseid, same for the Godbuster vs the celestials, that armor did not last long and took Ghost Rider possessing an old dead celestial body just to beat them. But you mean to tell me Batman had enough time to put on the armor but didn’t grab an EMP to fight a man who’s entire arsenal is tech?
0:51 Incorrect. Tony’s been trained by Caption America, Black Widdow, Black Panther, Shang Chi and more. Also BatMan on his own stands NO CHANCE against even the most basic Iron Man armors so what are you talking about.
Who the fuck on Death Battle’s team came up with Goku Black vs Reverse Flash? Not only is that a complete and utter mismatch, those two have NOTHING in common besides being evil doppelgängers. They said this season was going to be the most requested fights by fans, but there’s no way in hell that is one of them.
You’d be surprised how much non VS debaters function off of “These two are kinda similar, it’d be cool if they fought.” Doesn’t help that Goku Black became popular around the same time that the CW flash show became popular with Reverse flash as the villain.
I felt like Batman should’ve won, Stark is just as smart as Wayne, but Wayne is a master at manipulation, contingency planning, and of the martial arts. A fist fight with Batman won’t end well at all, so without all the suits in use, and stark only using his regular suit Batman would’ve had an advantage. Technically, Batman can hack Stark’s suit as well (had brother eye been brought into play) and since it has happened with Stark’s previous A.I Javis, via ultron, the fight would’ve been decided as batman
"contingency planning" is out of the question when you're pitted to someone you've never encountered before, remember. it's DeathBattle. a fistfight definitely gives Bruce an advantage, but then again. Tony is aided by AI's assisting him which actions he can do. his AI can analyze fighting patterns, and assist him in CQC, even without that, Tony is also trained by Captain America, Black Panther even Shang-Chi. so Tony can stand his ground. but Bruce still has advantage in CQC because of his vast experience in fighting. but Tony is also experienced in hacking, so he'd also have countermeasures against hacking, Backup AI's is one of those said countermeasures. and other than that, he'd still require a lot of time hacking when Tony summons all of his suits. it will require hacking from firewall to firewall. Tony just happens to have more toys than Bruce. so I'd say given the situation, it was a fair fight,
@@harlandagoat True. Tony's tech is far superior but Batman doesn't just rely on tech but his senses, stealth, planning ahead, ETC. If Batman can disable Tony's suit and get Tony to ground level then Batman wins.
