This is the result of demasculation. Feminizing men has created a high suicide rate. The best thing a man can be is a toxic male. That's what we were born to be. When you change that, that's when you'll have these type of situations. And when there isn't a father in the home to help in these situations, that is the biggest problem in society today.
Conrad was asking for help, he did not really wish to die, he was looking for answers, for love and understanding. I am so sorry for Conrad and his family.
@@susansamsel8080 Hi Susan, I've never been on anti depressants, but I've heard horror stories. What do you know about this drug? Any real insight would be greatly appreciated. I have a child (24) and I am concerned about treating depression with drugs. Thank you Take care. Be Well
@@elizabethferguson7002 id definitely research the different medications, and if you have a family Doctor I would speak to him/ her about it... Unfortunately your son is an Adult now and really you can only talk to him about it.. we are living in a time of uncertainty and mental health seems to be out of control. Especially for our children it's a whole new kind of peer pressure nowadays, and it's in my opinion a much different world.
@@MalphasMikaelson She tried helping him for 1.5 years, while he was gaslighting her. I'm going to do it right now, then ignoring her replies, making her think the worst. After reading the true, not one-sided, facts of the case, I'd have found her not guilty tbh. Two extremely troubled kids, that sadly met up.
She looks like a decent person. And not a bully type. What about his family his friends? Why they did not take his words seriously? You all have to take the responsibility so do i.
@@asiaellis2164 Based on ALL the facts, the 1.5 years of texts back and forth, she got an appropriate sentence, if not acquitted. 48 hours is telling a one sided version of the whole, actual story. It's shameful.
Agreed. I thought the same when I first watched this episode when it aired a few years back. Believe it or not - she had many supporters back then and it seemed like I was in the minority on message boards and comments sections when i would call her out. Glad the opinions of the masses have since changed and see it for what it was. I don’t care if she was young and pretty or what! Instead, I care more about what she encouraged, supported, and even urged on almost in a bullying manner… totally sick and twisted!! Who does that…!?!? I would’ve never done such a thing at 17. Or ever. At anytime, to anyone. It’s not just that she didn’t make his suicidal expressions known to someone but that she pushed him on until he did it. This is why I can see where words became weapon in a criminal proceeding. Which is what the judge more less decided in that ruling. It was a first of its kind. And I’d be incredibly cautious where this can be used and the frequency where it applies. But the added details and background facts inside this case paint just that. Both young and gullible. She meant everything to him and he overvalued who she was as a person and what she had to say, unfortunately. To bad she didn’t care for him at least half as much as he did her. He’d probably be in University right now about to wrap up his degree if so. She as well. It’s unfortunate all-around and a messed up story. It sucks she ruined her life, but it truly sucks for his parents who lost him forever. I can only hope her stint in prison will do her some good but we know it won’t and she’ll likely come out hardened even more and without many options. But…. again - she gets a life to resume to an, so…… it’s kinda difficult to feel any sympathy for her.
Arianna seems like a beautiful soul. I wish he had had more friends like her. This was a truly sickening story. Everything beautiful, delicate, vulnerable, needs protection from malice.
@@alteredcatscyprus we’d be grateful if women actually behaved this same way in real life like how they virtue signal online about women they don’t know….
@@edithtierce8209 Depends on what you teach them. Some will fall away, no matter what, but a heck of a lot more won’t. The garbage young women are being taught today is not helping them. Virtue doesn’t change. Same thing it always was.
Shame. People who lack empathy ... are scary. Narcissistic and selfish ... they are able to fake empathy when it's a means to an end ... but they do not have real empathy. They are unable to reflect on how their behavior, affects others.
@@plynwow Did you even read the comment? It's not in any way implying it should be against the law. It's basically stating a fact ... that people lacking in empathy are unable to reflect on what their behaviors do to another person. And I started off saying people like that are scary ... a personal opinion, since that's what people do, give opinions, in the comment section. Yet I re-read what I wrote and nothing in there is implying that it is, or should be, against the law. But you have a great day, Sunshine!
Based on decades of experience working within mental health, it's important to remember that when a person is serious about ending their life, they just do it. They neither hesitate, think about it and they certainly don't talk about it with others. When someone talks about it, it's always a cry for help! They want to end their pain (be it emotional, physical, mental etc), not their life!
This is so correct , even as a call handler on suicide line if we believed that someone was dying we could track the call - this boy needed a friend not tomorrows psychopath !
Unfortunately very true I had a friend who done it and there was no signs at all just done it,I saw him the morning he done it and he was very much like himself and seemed pretty happy then 2 hours later got news he had passed away
I think the fact that she basically made him get back in the truck after he got out because he didn't want to do it holds a lot of weight over this. You never encourage anyone to take their life. She encouraged him the whole time even giving him different ways to do it. Sorry but she was definitely in the wrong she should have told someone. It was all about her and wanting attention. I pray 🙏 for the family.
@@encycl07pedia-yes I know but also he was venerable and his state of mind was foggy and he wasn’t thinking right. He was suffering mentally. Mental illness is real. Yes it’s easy to say he should have bad self control but it’s not always that easy not everyone has that awareness not everyone is strong mentally
@@misspacino4081 I think you mean "vulnerable." I never said MI wasn't real. The fact remains if he really didn't want to do it, he wouldn't have. S..c.d.l ideation is pretty common, but most people don't follow through.
@@misspacino4081"Being vulnerable" isn't an excuse to take life advice from a teenager. Also, if he'd really changed his mind, he would've blocked her number and called 911 or his parents. Here's a crazy thought: If you genuinely don't want to die, then stfu about it.
I’ve never told this anybody, but when I was 15 (33 now), I had a friend who tried to do the same thing to me. She had it all planned out for me, too. How, when, the details. It’s truly sickening
I am so, so sorry that happened to you. What a horrible thing to be faced with. I hope you know that you deserve better people around you. ❤ When I was 14, 15, 16 I spent an inordinate amount of time playing therapist to friends with serious amounts of trauma and mental health problems because I was a sucker for *anyone* in pain. In hindsight I was definitely....taken advantage of a few times by people a good bit older than me--there were instances where it was used to keep me around in very manipulative ways. My heart just wouldn't let me see it when I was worried about someone--with the bonus benefit that my problems could be shoved away too! I said all of that because: as unhealthy as it was in my case, I spent a significant percentage of my formative years putting a lot of energy into keeping people from self-harming. I did the training to be an outcry counselor and worked on a su!c!d€ hotline. I ultimately even got my official interventionist certificate. Here's the thing--I did this with a group of a dozen other high school students in a really small town. My graduating class was about 75 kids. I guess I'm just baffled that there can be such a lack of empathy, so little regard for the majesty of life when I have seen teens be capable of such incredible selflessness and service.
Yep. I don't mean to be rude but I don't think many of these people who grew up or interacted with Michelle understand what teenagers do or are like- especially mentally disturbed ones. Especially one that is admittedly not eating or has disordered eating. It causes brain damage and teenagers haven't developed the same amount of empathy as an adult.
@@ronniemead805 To call her a monster on the level of Ted Bundy or the Toy Box killers is kind of ridiculous. She's deeply disturbed and ill and she will have to live with this until the day she does. Whether that bothers her or not, well, she might be young enough for a psychologist to partially fix what's broken. To say there's nothing good in her is too far.
@@MissSpaz people don’t have to be cold blooded serial killers to have zero redeeming qualities as a human being. When it comes to conscience less sociopaths, it’s usually best to just throw the whole person away.
@@MissSpaz idk, not to be rude or hateful towards your comments, but im never ever sympathizing with her. Been on and off with my mental disorder and never once have I thought of manipulating someone into hurting themselves, not even a tiny scratch on their body. Her disorder/s, her being a teen and having imbalances in her brain, and her having struggles is not a reason nor an excuse for her to do what she did to another individual. Let us kindly not validate those people.
He was extremely vulnerable, extremely mentally unstable and crying to a friend for help by putting his life in her hands and she did the absolute worst vile and evil thing possible. Like the father said, she was using him as a pawn to help her social life.
Thats nonsense. People with mental disorders take about their disorders and about suicide. If one party is determined already to go out, the other will often help. It may even be the case that she is the one dragged into this, but you, like most other people, let your opinion be determined by cherry picked messages that establish nothing about the relationship they had.
@@AspireGMD oh boy... you got me. I didnt know and since im dutch (NL/Europe) i never thought id be related. So i checked my ancestry and hers and it seems we actually do have a common ancester about 10.000 years ago!
Most Dopefiends are all those things, just requires the courage for a Hero to stand up to them. Who needs Batman in a world where little girls like this can slaughter a hundred Jokers. Nancy Drew be damned, got a real child prodigy here. I bet this was all a cover so the FBI could enlist her help.
This girl wanted him to die so that she could get attention both from friends and on social media. Terrible that people like her exist. She definitely deserves jail, and I don’t understand how this case is even under debate or “controversial”.
Yes we need to teach our kids compassion and to trust their intuition! I just helped my granddaughter with a toxic friend in first grade for Pete's sake!!
I can't imagine being Michelle Carter's mother. Just knowing my daughter is capable of such a heinous act. How did they even move past it? I don't think I'd be able to look at my daughter the same way ever again.
She probably told her mom that she didnt think he was really going to do it. And that she got tired of his complaining and his constant suicide chatter everyday. And her mom is going to blame the victim and say that he was pressuring and burdening her daughter with things that she’s not equipped to treat. She’s not an healthcare professional
Such a darling young man. In 1991 our 23 year old son chose to end his life in the same way. We will never know what was so painful in his life that he felt the only way out was in death. I’m very sorry for these parents. As a Christian I know it’s not right to want revenge or vengeance but as a mother I believe that’s what I would feel if our son had had a “friend” such as this evil girl. 😢😢😢
Definitely. I’m a mother of a murdered son who I believe had a death wish already. It’s been three years now and it’s just as painful as it ever was...I knew if he left with those people that I would never see him again. I begged him not to go anywhere also. I feel guilty for not staying with him that night! This young man’s mama ...poor thing is in for an awful journey as am I.
I disgree in part as each huMAN is RESPONDSible for their own ACTions! and yes her's ACTions were self serving as all huMAN$ are to some DEGREE and she only had a HS degree, correct? how old was she when he committed suicide? and how old was he? YOUNG people need ADULTS who are GOoD role MODels in the last days then as now....
@@jesska16 You're trying to say that saying words should lead to a life sentence. If a teenager sent you a million text messages telling you to rob a bank, would that force you to rob a bank? Secondly, didn't Conrad have the power to block her? I'm starting to think all these ppl who think she's guilty must be "suicidal" themselves and are furious that one woman decided to finally call their bluff.
@jamielehman4934 Clearly, he was troubled. Troubled people usually don't have the right mind to know they should block someone. She knew he was troubled, and she still encouraged him to harm himself instead of getting help. Therefore, she is a monster and doesn't deserve to be free.
@@jamielehman4934 your comment shows you have no idea how depression works and calling it a bluff is appalling. Shame on you. Depression makes you feel hopeless and worthless which makes it easy for people to abuse you and make you feel like there is no way out.
This story makes me so sad because as a male who used to be so happy and struggled with so much depression when I was teen I feel if she hadn’t messed his life up it probably would’ve gotten so much better
The poor mother. You know they take the blame but for her to be in that field and not see it in your own home. Gotta be extra hard for her. I give her all my prayers to this day
I’ve dated this type of girl multiple times. I’m fact I actually married one of them! During an argument, I said “I can’t handle this, you know my issues and when you do this it makes me want to die” to which she pointed at a knife and said “if you’re going to do it? Do it now. I’m tired of hearing about it.” I grabbed the knife, went out an repaid my outstanding debts, returned keys to people, and then I thankfully got a phone call that saved my life. Unfortunately I stayed with her for years, but fortunately all that abuse made me realize I deserve respect and love too. If you’re feeling lost, or suicidal, please know it can get better, you just have to find support. Try to get into a support group, look into therapy, and reach out to your loved ones. I’ve got faith in you. ❤
@@GigiWright isn’t that the truth. My dad is a serious narcissist and he doesn’t understand that he “prepped” me for other people abusing me for the rest of my life. Thankfully I’ve reclaimed my life but for many years other people just played with it because I thought I deserved that.
@@imdoneplus Same thing happened to me. It took me until I was pushing 60 to get fed up with all the abuse from everyone I encountered. It started with my father.
the fact she got into his head enough to convince him to get back in the car when he'd decided not to go through with it makes her a murderer,she's the worst kind of human possible, my thoughts are with the mother and the family
WHAT? She talked him into suicide and did nothing to stop him or get help while he was in the act…and she’s out having her best life? Something is very wrong. That judge is wrong.
@@muse8n what about he himself? He didn't let n made himself did it in the end? I ain't defending her, but be real n put credits where it's due Every man are responsible for their own action n choices Literally
@@laurainfinity1390 As if mom wasn't biased, right? Sorry to say, but mom might be trying to change the topic from her failure to defend her son from his abusive father and grandfather. Even without that, she would obviously be extremely biased. Understandably so, but that doesn't change the facts.
If it's any comfort, she will be a pariah for life. Branded a killer, an outcast in her own country. She's going to prison, alright. One of her own making. And she's already serving time.
I hope everyone knows what she did and that no one wants to be her friend. I hope she will have an unhappy life, even though she got away almost unpunished with this. RIP Conrad 🙏
When my father killed his self, it was right when the police and my stepmother found him on the side of the road and she saw him put the gun to his chest. I asked her “why didn’t you run up to him and stop him?” She said because people like that in that moment aren’t in their right mind. It took maturity and adulthood for me to understand what she meant… I don’t know how that Conrad survive that long with that kind of “friend.” Poor kid. That girl is a demon, she’s just plain evil and sick. I wouldn’t even know what to do with her…. When I was in the army, we were taught knowing someone is suicidal, it’s mandatory to say, and/or do something immediately to get them medical intervention. To do nothing was punishable!
@@jimwerther The authorities should make it mandatory for this young woman to receive psychiatric counselling for the rest of her life. Unfortunately because of Conrad's previous suicide attempt we will never know whether he would have tried to end his life at some future date. The girl is left to live. Will she ever express true remorse: time will tell.
She went to his wake and even text his mum. It’s like how a serial killer goes on the look out for the body. Sickos I reckon she’ll do something to ruin someone else’s life. She should have got 15 years.
Michelle Carter really did know what she was doing. It's sad she only got 15 months. She encouraged and pushed Conrad to go through with the suicide. This is so sad. 😢
she should have been declared innocent. The government of Canada encourages ill people to end their lives even when they clearly state they don't want euthanasia yet no one is going to prison over that...
I’ve seen this case before but always just in photos. To see Conrad in video and to hear him speak is stunning. He’s highly intelligent. He’s aware of his struggles and his goals. He wants to be the best he can be. And he’s only 17! Michelle not only took Conrad’s life, but she took him from his loving family while also robbing the rest of the world of an amazing person. Our justice system is outdated and subsequently ineffective when it comes to cases involving modern technology like social media.
@@Sonjalynn97 yes, she is not a good person at all. With a proper care he was able to make it, until the fase of adolescent would be over. My nephew was on medication from 13 or 14, until almost 18. Psychotherapy in my country is very hard to get in public hospital, so he did some, but it was not that good. Sometimes he was able to pay for few sessions with a private one. Now he is in his twenties and doing so well, finished college and everything. He is not married though. Conrad was an angel and he thought he was a bad kid, it was a lot of guilt as well. But now there is no more pain for him, but his family and friends.
The saddest and most sickening thing is Conrad thought she was helping him, helping to end his torment that she helped perpetuate. What a sick girl, wanting to bask in the attention of (in her head) "being the grieving widow". How different it could of been of he hadn't of met this girl. I'm so sorry for Conrad, his Mum and dad, his sisters family and friends. Fly free Condrad your light will always shine brightly on this world x
Hearing about this on the news and hearing what his so called girlfriend did made me sick. She should've spent years in prison, I see her as an unfit person, a danger to the public, no one can possibly say these things to a person who is suicidal, I wouldn't say anything like what she did to no one.. I lost my brother in 09, he took his life too. My prayers go out to his family..
You are way off on this one. The kid was miserably depressed, had thought about suicide for years, and allegedly attempted it repeatedly. She talked him out of it for a long time, before changing her mind and agreeing that it was his best option. Good idea? No, horrible idea. But she was easily as troubled as he was, and therefore reached terrible conclusions. Did she have bad intent? There is no evidence that she did, any more than he did. Suicide is always wrong, but you can't blame her for thinking it was a good decision for him unless you also blame him, as well as everyone else who goes that route.
@@DannaK247 And there's more. Why is no one focusing on Roy's abusive father and grandfather? Does anyone believe that his suicide had more to do with Michelle Carter than with his abusive childhood? But that doesn't make for a sexy story, right?
@@jimwerther - Then why is she texting "I'm scared, please tell me you're ok" within hours of telling him to do it Over and Over and Over? If she *really* thought it was the right thing to do, why text that? Clearly she knew it was wrong, and I absolutely buy the theory that she was doing it to get her own attention. Our culture is so narcissistic that someone else's life means less than affirmation from casual acquaintances. I don't necessarily think it should be a crime to tell a person on a ledge to jump, but it's certainly gross af. I do agree that the media would ignore whatever they have to in order to make a story more sexy, though.
I understand that that the mother had to deal with her own issues during the divorce. As parents we have to make sure our sons have little time to spend on social media - let them play several sports and/or volunteer or work part-time to get rid of their energy and anxiety. Depression feeds on depression, therefore encouraging moping and over-thinking is unhealthy. Most kids have bouts of depression, but they also need to be taught the skills to deal with it as they grow into adulthood.
She went to his wake and even text his mum. It’s like how a serial killer goes on the look out for the body. Sickos I reckon she’ll do something to ruin someone else’s life. She should have got 15 years.
I remember someone who was similar like her, great in manipulation that the person who was sad due to his physical disability almost went to depression because of that person kept telling him that how he was incompetent of living a normal life. It took a lot of moral support to pull him out of that person's grip.
There are professionals who care about you. Professionals like me who have felt what you felt and dedicated their lives to helping others fight the battle I too have fought my whole life. You matter and people love you. Even if we've never met I love you like soldiers who have served on the same battlefield. You can do this. Get help and take the first step to the rest of your life.
My doctor prescribed Pristiq, hope I spelled it correctly. But it has really helped. I had to have 2 spinal surgeries and live in pain, so it’s easy to get depressed for pain patients.
She knew exactly what she was doing! I’m calling BS on her and her attorneys. This really angers me as the mother of a child that went through bouts of depression as a teenager. Thank God he never came across a girl like Michelle Carter 😤
It’s sad. He was struggling and he did want to live and he didn’t want his family to be in pain. But she was the devil on his shoulder and knew his mental state was bad. He wanted to get better but she didn’t
I'm so disappointed about the outcome on this case, she deserved 20 years behind bars. And a law named CONRAD to punish people encouraging suicide to others. Conrad, RIP. ♥
I learned early that people just enjoy seeing how much control/manipulation they can gain over you. It’s all a game to them. This is very heartbreaking and wicked.
I dont know if it's addressed further on in this documentary but I read that her motive was because she was obsessed with a main character from Glee where the actress was dating her love interest on the show in real life and when he died of an overdose in real life, this freak saw an opportunity to live out her own version of it. If that's true then she is surely sociopathic or clinically narcissistic
I can honestly say, with a fair amount of certainty, that if she hadn't been so aggressive with telling him to get back into the truck when he was having second thoughts, he would still be here today.💔 My thoughts and prayers go out to his family for their unimaginable loss.
@Chatta Huffman the amount of text she sent shows intent. I don't understand why he didn't or couldn't see that She was the reason he was having these mental problems. She fed on his sadness and confusion and pushed him to this. What a disgusting person.
@@chattahuffman5117 Oh, absolutely! You're totally right. In that moment, he needed (and wanted) someone to reassure him, and be there to talk him down. NOT someone pushing and manipulating him to end his life. Like, who DOES that?! She's a despicable person, imo.
As a guy whose been a paraplegic for 26 of my 51 years from a diving accident, its hard to wrap my mind around that kind of depression. What a dark place his mind must have been in, especially for someone who had a close, supportive family like he had. My family has been great and I could never put them through that kind of never ending pain. I believe he'd never have gone through with it if it weren't for her encouraging him. I believe she got a very lenient and unfair sentence. The judge was very easy on her. Her getting out three months early was just another slap in the face to Conrad's family.
That’s amazing you’ve learned to live that way. I don’t know if you’ve heard of Joni Erickson-Tada? She became paralyzed from the neck down at 18…diving accident. She makes beautiful pen and paper art with her mouth. She’s an inspiration and so are you! ❤😊
Michelle hounded him in the months preceding, manipulating a vulnerable young man. She psychologically tortured him. He was confused and in pain and she basically pushed him off the precipice. When Conrad stopped himself she pushed harder. Then she NEVER a called for help, but tried to cover her tracks!!! Michelle is to blame 💯!
I have now watched this episode. My heart goes out to this family. What I saw in this girl was evil eyes. She knew exactly what she was doing. If she was a good person that really loved him she would have screamed "get out of the car". I just feel terrible that this young man was put on this earth for a reason and we will never know that reason.
Gosh, what I wouldn’t give to be the person sending him the texts: sympathy, understanding, the encouragement to keep putting one foot in front of the other… God bless his soul and his family’s sense of purpose🌟💫
His mother in particular has my deepest sympathy. The suffering caused by losing a child never goes away. She is a wicked person who exploited a defenseless individual in his most fragile moment. He needed a friend because he was sitting on the cliff, but she pushed him over the edge instead. I also disagree with the judge's verdict. She should to spend many years in prison.
By her getting a light sentence is bad in another way, it promotes it to happen again to somebody else. The judge was definitely wrong on his decision.
My deepest sympathy goes out to him and his family. She may have been a little young and immature but she was old enough to know better. She obviously didn't care about right and wrong and in my opinion is a Monster!
There shouldn’t have to be a law for talking people into suicide, it should be a given. You have to be a horrible person to try and convince someone to do something like this. My condolences to Conrad and his family 🙏🏼.
The fact that this girl did this is proof that it should be a law. There are always gonna be sick people out there that will have no problem with encouraging someone's suicide if they think they can benefit in some way. It's sad.. and for the majority of us it is a no Brainer. But there are always those few. That's the world we live in.
Definitely cause she manipulated him knowingly he going threw a life changer should have seemed help rather than persuade him to end his life!He had parent's sister's friends teachers aunts uncles 💔🙏
When my hubby was diagnosed with lymphoma in 2019, he thought it's the end of the world and told me he wants to jump in the hospital corridor where he was confined. I didn't sleep at all and monitored him every minute! I asked all his relatives and friends to tell him we are here to support him all the way. He was healed now and working! ❤ When someone is not in their best mental and emotional state, you don't get tired of them. You help them find the best solution and if you can't, ask someone else.
Wow.. Mothers are so strong even though they have so much hurt and pain in their hearts... This brought tears to my eyes watching the sister cry and the Mom be strong and try and keep her composure.. Just sad
What a complete psychopath. The poor guy, being manipulated like that. People who are emotionally distraught are needing someone to help them or listen to them, not push them RELENTLESSLY to commit suicide. How sick!
Being someone who suffer from depression this was horrible to hear. I wouldn't be able to survive if I had to listen to someone go on like that. May her rotten soul only bring pain to herself. She preyed on him and attacked his flickering will to be. He seemed to be a beautiful person. Vulnerable people deserve to be protected.
just goes to show that no matter how physically attractive someone might be on the outside. the person inside could be struggling with depression, anxiety and suicidal thoughts, or be a straight up psychopath.
True. Amazing how we are programmed to think that attractive people aren’t capable of the very worst crimes. Comes as a shock when it shouldn’t; considering Lucifer was the most beautiful angel.
As someone who has those exact feelings and thoughts as Conrad. I would feel compelled to end it all if someone sent me texts like that, especially if I thought they loved me. It's absolutely heartbreaking. The main reason I choose not to commit suicid3 is because I don't want the people I love to feel guilty.
I hope you realize that the people you love literally love you in return. Life can be tough at times but it usually doesn’t remain that way. Suicide is a permanent solution to temporary problems. In reality it isn’t a solution at all. I don’t know you but I’m proud of you for thinking of your loved ones. That’s a truly beautiful characteristic. Please dig deeply & realize that you matter, your life matters. Each day it’d be so awesome to write in a couple of words(nothing major) positive things about yourself. #1, you are beautifully unselfish & lovingly think of others ahead of yourself. Take care.❤️🩹❤️🩹❤️🩹
I have had those feelings as well, but please let me encourage you to know that had I done it, I would have missed the most beautiful times of my life; times that have been so wonderful they made up for the dark times in my life. If you ever feel that way again, you can reach out to me. You have wonderful times ahead of you. I promise! Please don't miss out on them.
@Angelique Benham thank you so much. I signed myself into a hospital that is helping me. I came home 2 days ago, but I go to a day program 5 days a week for 6 hours a day. I didn't realize how bad I was and still am. But I do feel much better in my head. I need to be able to sleep. I got only an hour and a half of sleep from Wednesday thru Friday. So I'm hoping the new meds I'm on will help me with that. My doctor said I'm doing much better. Thank you. I'm committed to getting better. I wasn't living. I was struggling just to exist. But I'm feeling hopeful. Thank you again for your kind thoughts and words.
@Manka thank you. I wouldn't want anyone I love to experience depression. I isolated myself so badly that I had a hard time just trying to communicate with my doctor. I couldn't form sentences that made sense at first. I had trouble finding the right words and lost my concentration constantly. Now, I'm still having a bit of trouble, but the more I communicate with people, the easier it's getting. I appreciate your thoughts and kind words. Thank you for taking the time to encourage me. I did 8 days in a hospital and I got discharged 2 days ago, and I'm doing what they call a partial hospitalization program where I go 5 days a week and 6 hours a day at the hospital. I have a lot of hope for the future.
I remember when this happened. But I never did hear the outcome of it. Didn’t know if the girl went to jail or not. I just can’t believe she kept insisting that he do that. Why she didn’t tell him, it’s not worth it. Give me positive vibes. I just don’t understand people. My heart goes out to his family
This is the first I’ve heard of this. How absolutely horrific! I am in complete shock. My heart goes out to Conrad’s family. That girl needs to be locked back up and silenced!
Oh I ve seen this many times, and all times I can't stand this girl, she clearly looked at life like it's a film/movie, no empathy, total psychopath..I won't be surprised if we hear anything sinister later on...
She had her own mental health issues. And then there was this guy at all times talking to her about killing himself. She was in no state to handle this.
I can't even imagine how you wouldn't try to stop him. I have had 2 people tell me that they were suicidal. One had already taken a bunch of pills. Both times, I immediately called for help. 911 for the one who had taken the pills, and I stayed on the phone with him until the ambulance arrived. The other, I called his mother as soon as I got her phone number from a mutual acquaintance. Both times, it was very stressful until I knew that they were safe. I can't imagine being so callous as she was.
she served 11 months. that's insulting to the family and loved ones. this disgusted me when it happened and it disgusts me now. especially when I've suffered with severe depression myself for the longest time. when you say those things to people close to you, you want them to tell you you're worth living. not to tell you to do it. this was and is absolutely devastating. rest easy Conrad
Words absolutely can have an impact, especially when they’re in a vulnerable state like that. That’s why it’s called “talking down” someone. She didn’t get enough time behind bars imo
I appreciate videos like this so that I can watch them with my teens and open the conversation about speaking up and taking mental health very very seriously. Awesome video.
I will too be applying this to my daughter. Everyday gets worse and worse and i need her to look out for herself, trust no one and make her aware so she can never let no one bring her down.!
I will too be applying this to my daughter. Everyday gets worse and worse and i need her to look out for herself, trust no one and make her aware so she can never let no one bring her down.!
@@Screencappedhats You're evil then. The boy was sick obviously. Any decent human being would have encouraged him to get assistance. Or if she was that annoyed by him, she could have just ghosted him. She's disturbed herself and I hope that she got some counseling in those mere 15 months that she had to sit down and think about the tragedy and heartbreak that she aided and abetted.
As someone who’s diagnosed chronic depression, those videos Conrad took of himself show that he had the strength to overcome this if he was consistent on taking his antidepressants or doing what needed to be done to feel better as a person. I hope we haven’t forgotten how susceptible people- especially teenagers in distress are . People like her, are the worse kind of people. She instructed this man to his death, not just “texting him” as the defense tries to belittle. The fact that she got 15 months is a slap in the face. And watch how her face brightens up and her eyebrow raises when they give her her sentence, as if to say “well, that’s not bad”. Minorities in this country get more time for less than what she inflicted on this young man. Taunting him for months. I hope she gets what she deserves.
With any luck the other inmates will see her story and they will all start to taunt and mentally and emotionally torture her, cause her to catch a new case or two while she's locked down so she has to do with more time, and continue with the torture. If they drive her to hurt herself, believe this or not it is a class c felony of destruction of state property. It can hold up to 5 years.
15 months sentence is a slap in the face. She’s an evil spirit & knew what she was doing. 15 years wouldn’t be enough. She’ll get what she has coming to her mark my words. Karma will ricochet right back & smack her off her feet! She’ll get what she has coming.
This episode is one of the most heartbreaking ever produced. I wanted to reach out and grab Conrad and tell him his life would be so much different in 10 years and to hang on. And to make sure he surrounded himself with people to uplift him instead of that awful girl. I wonder if she will ever fully understand what she did. The mind manipulation it takes to convince another person to self-harm. My heart breaks and I've watched this episode at least twice in the past few years.
But sometimes it doesn’t get better 😢I was at that place 10 years ago and my life had gotten better for a bit then my ex betrayed me hard and so much crap in my life. Wish I could have just left
I agree and I'm a 48 hours feind...but this episode Justice did not prevail. This girls a psychopath and she's free to live her life now? Evil like that doesn't learn, evil like that doesn't dissipate, evil like that will rear its head again.
The fact that she told him to "get back into the truck" tells me he wouldn't have gone through with it. But in fact she pressured him into it. She also didn't call his family or 911. She knew where he was and left him set there for 24 hours. This is horrendous.
Absolutely heartbreaking, coming from a family who lost my younger brother and my mum to suicide this is absolutely devastating My heart goes out to his family and friends 💙
@@lunalexington4464 ah ok so many people who watch 48 hours are from US I just presumed .... You are a very strong person for surviving such losses not sure if I could, credit to you
I cannot fathom how heartless a person has to be to encourage someone to end their life then turn around and portray the grieving girlfriend for attention. I’ve yet to see her show an ounce of regret and yet she’s out and free to live her life now.
To the young men out there: do not fight your feelings and know that someone will listen. Fear is just part of the courage that you have to get through first. After the words are out you WILL feel better. Stay away from the people that make you feel down and lift yourself up and out because you CAN!
I can't believe she only got 15 months. WTF. She is completely heartless. Do you really want her to live in your community and get married and have kids??
As the father of a little boy it was gut wrenching to see pictures of Conrad as a little boy. How painful this must be for his family, especially for his mother and father. I have tremendous respect for his mother, because this would be enough to break most people.
It's heartbreaking and the family will never get over the loss of Conrad. My one and only Grandchild lost his father to suicide when he was 4 months old. When he watches kids TV programmes, there's always a Mummy and a Daddy. Just hearing him talk about a Daddy, the words cut deep. Words are Powerful. My sister's husband took his own life, 2 yrs previously. He left 3 young kids. The Hurt to all our family will never heal. The thought that words spoken or texted from someone would encourage them, would have made their loss so much more painful. This girl knew exactly what she was doing was wrong. Her messages to a friend were ample proof that she was aware of the situation and knew it was wrong. Her punishment didn't fit the crime she was given..
I wish I knew Conrad irl. I would’ve done everything in my power to comfort him and help through his depression and expressing his feelings. He seemed like a gentle, kind guy.
What a vile parasitic person. She had a history of attention seeking behaviour, but her actions in this case were just evil. Ingratiating herself with Conrad’s mother and family just makes me sick.
The internet is toxic. Trolls, foes, and the easily impressionable often clash. This story cannot be alone. This young woman is deeply disturbed and appears to ba a dangerous narcissist among other things. She should do heavy time. I doubt she will.
I dont think she is a narcissist though. This is the work of a very malignant psychopath ... authorities should have an eye on this one. She will continue down this path ... doing worse things.
Sadly, this story is my story too. My firstborn son also committed suicide, and he told his girlfriend what he was intending to do. She did nothing...just let it happen. He was 27. I miss him every single day. My heart goes out to you and your family. It is truly this worst thing a parent can imagine.
I can only imagine how horrible that would be. It's bad enough to lose a child, but to know that someone could have alerted someone for help and did nothing makes it so much worse. I'm so sorry.
