TBWL: Owlman, who do you think you're talking to? If you exist, it's because I LET YOU EXIST and you're helping out my plans in ways you don't even realize right now...
As a fight or a story? Because for what I recall the Justice Lords are a Cold hearted version of the Justice League that are Tyrants but not really evil, they are more like Generals in a war scenario so unless they pull something like the animation crisis on two earths, there's isn't much of a story
@@ricardomiles2957 As a story. You're right, of course, but they're also characters that appeared in a single two-part episode of a cartoon, so I think there's probably room for a good writer to expand on the concept and actually make them interesting. Interacting with the Crime Syndicate could cause them to re-evaluate their morals. Some characters could have a redemption, but maybe some of them get even worse or even join the Crime Syndicate.
@Atomic Portel The Seven would be torn apart immediately. The Crime Syndicate is literally an evil and merciless version of the Justice League who scale way above The Seven.
You guys remember when you would go to your toy chest and then dump out all the toys onto the ground, and then smash all of them together, even if the toys weren't from the same manufacturer? That's this. The only difference? Your toys didn't have CAPTAIN CARROT! Rob loves Captain Carrot. Captain Carrot's a Super-Bunny.
Man Rob if I had a Dollar for every time you said word for word “Captain Carrot! I love Captain Carrot. Captain Carrot is a Super Bunny” I’d have like 10 Dollars from the amount of times I’ve heard
Rob missed one of the most important parts of the story: When Owlman kills off Baby Batman and the rainbow Lantern Corp Batmen he gives a Meta commentary on all the dumb/silly/stupid characters that people have complained about in these Death Metal issues
i saw that too. man its too bad theres not 100,000 other people waaaay better that deserve the paychecks to draw this. what a clusterfuck. maybe ppl refused when they read the story lol
If I recall. There was an Animated Series...uh...what was it called again *does a quick search*..."Loonatics Unleashed". It is not Zoo Crew but it is kind of an Alternate Earth Zoo Crew lol.
The episode based on the idea the Justice Lords lost their way when Wallace (Wally the redhead ) died. They decided to be proactive. To not rule by taking personal control but sitting above humanity and acting as peacemakers. You will be allowed to rule but only in the manner we think best. You will be good and peaceful because we are watching. We won't let you hurt eachother anymore. As for the Zoo crew of the JLA (Just 'Lotta Animals) they are adorable. Any better reason to keep them. Justice Lords BTW the inspiration for Injustice. Though no doubt inspired by Armegeddon 2001 from 1991. A future superman through sadness/regret/despair becomes a tyrant and try's to take over the planet. A possible future.
This story is a solid 10 outta 10 for me.. can we all agree that perputaua was based off kaguya from naruto.... Rebelled against her those against her station. Perputaua rebelled against the presence nd kaguya against her clan. Both try seize power for their selves . Both got betrayed by their sons and sealed by their sons
Scott and tynion are world builders involving old characters. He just is reminding everyone on what was already there, just not clear b4. This book gave much memories. Owlmans got his old betrayal thing pushed on him, same as n52 and b4.
I liked how the story provided an explanation to how the past events connect to the now-canon, good character focus to Captain Carrot and Owlman, and finally the Justice League win one battle against Perpetua
Crazy Idea: DC Comics is preparing for a Marvel comics merger, and potentially more. The last 2 crisis events are building up to OmniCrisis. The Omniverse being the major characters from different companies...
But wait, after this time they will reveal who was pulling Perpetua's strings all along, all along! Like, I'm not even paying attention anymore because this will all just get retconned away later. These crisis level stories are just an aroboris that eats away at the legitimacy of what came before it.
@@travisbewley7084 I realize you are just kidding, but *nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.* Perpetua is at the ceiling right below that all powerful, absolute character that exists purely because of Christians, so there cannot be a bigger threat. Not to mention that this thing is already really big when measuring in released issues, so I doubt there can be from a business standpoint. Also, that comparison with an ouroboros was nonsensical and argued your previous statement about it getting retconned away by complaining about the earlier stuff *sticking around.* Sure the ouroboros is a symbol of rebirth, but your use of it was just poor.
@@Bezaliel13 I'm not saying it as a literal sense more more from a readers point of view. The new stories and bigger bad eat away from the things that happen before. Now the anti monitor wasn't just his own character with his own motivation but a pawn in a grander scheme. For me (Just stating my personal tastes here, as we all are) this just cheapens things that came before. How many times have you though you knew the ceiling of power in the DC universe? How many times has that got shattered with a new layer made up? They keep raising the stakes with bigger bads and it's no replacement for building interesting conflicts. I just can't take this universe seriously because I'm just waiting for the next retcon to tell me what I knew was only a small part in a grander picture that is itself a small part in a grander picture and so on and so on. This sort of thing has its limits.
@@travisbewley7084 Oh, you were going for a metaphor of them "cannibalizing" stuff. Even ignoring using a symbol of the life cycle around the concept of reboots, which was a bit mindscrew-y, you should just avoid using the ouroboros because how it features autocannibalism when you are trying to say this "ate away" at something else. As for your "cheapening," I see it more as that thing where a character was initially not that big, but then gets retconned as being more important, for he was introduced as some villain just from the anti-matter reality that stuck around to stay relevant before this retcon of him "always being important" or whatnot. None, for it is still DC's version of the "One Above All," because... Christianity. Like I explained earlier, I do not think they can go beyond her, for she was connected to the Presence, monotheists will get upset if they make someone beyond God, and this has been really, really long. Personally, I like Perpetua because she feels important. BarBATos just seemed like another "Ultimate Evil" that would have appeared, be beaten, and basically be moved on from, like Hecate, but his crazy power of the Dark *Multiverse* ended up mattering by breaking the Source Wall and lead to Perpetua, which means they already did what you joked about in this arc. Of course, I say that because of Marvel lately. Seriously, Marvel had Hulk tell Venom that his older than the universe dark god, Knull, had nothing to do with him when he has his own, The One Below All. Also, I missed what happened with Nyx, but she seemed to have also been just like the Chaos King. Compared to that, Perpetua is far better by being a bigger bad that *_FELT LIKE IT._* She was not just one event that came and went. She had a events that lead to hers, which was made up of several events instead of the usual. I get that you dislike that "Ganon" was just a "manifestation of Demise," but this is better than the norm. p.s. Ugh, I just realized that your statement about the ceiling was made messy by the Source *Wall.* It is confusing that you are not talking literally, and yet you use metaphors like that, especially the _ouroboros._ Stay away from the ouroboros.
@@210SAi It's hard to say, there seems to be a slight difference in the color palettes from skin to pants. That would be a neat design though. Like how Vegeta wears a unitard with a breastplate in DBZ/DBS.
DC making there characters overpowerful even beyond Omega level if they continue to make characters more powerful this would make a bigger event than crisis
Probably the best tie in after Trinity Crisis Love that the Green Lantern Corp were front and center with Morrisons Justice Incarnate. And Owlman was amazing👏
After seeing how much you love Captain Carrot, I knew the moment I saw him on screen you would be hyped! This story has been crazy up to this point, but the whole thing with Owl Man just having an ass pull to beat Perpetua like that was lack luster.
“Death of the Multiverse” Me: “So, where is The Presence in all of this? Why is The Presence absent and inconsequential in a story this far reaching? Especially when you compare this story to ones where The Presence was active and doing stuff.”
Yes, i need to see the Presence/The Source come down to beat Perpetua and New Dark Evil God Darkest Knight by himself not just Lucifer to kicks their asses.
This was my fav episode yet. I had ZERO idea this group existed! This is my new fav team!! And YAY FOR CAPTAIN Carrot 🥕! I still have my copy of their version of original crisis!!!
Omg, DC is so lost with this story. They pulled Perpetua from their asses and now they are saying no look she is not that powerful, but she could be hey you never know.
dont know if you've ever done this VS one, but how would Apocolypse and the Horsemen do VS Justice League? I think that'd be a fantastic fight and video
There's probably hundreds of DC characters that have all been in the Justice League at some point. And so many different versions of each character, so it depends.
Best moment for me was Guy Gardner doing the “One-Punch Knockout” from JLI, and also Captain Carrot, and also Owlman saying “f#%$ The Batman Who Laughs I’m the OG”
Pete W. Batman would loose so bad to Midnighter Even Batman has said he don’t fw him I’m a Batman guy And lemme tell u Batman won’t even touch this guy
I DRAW COMIX And stuff Monarch (DC) VS Rune king Thor Rune King Thor VS Dr.Manhattan OR Quantum Superman Strange visitor Superman VS Rune king Thor Rune King Thor VS Superman Prime (Amped version of Superboy prime not SMPOM) Space punisher hulk VS Rune king Thor Idk why these matchups interest me
Once I saw Captain Carrot on the cover for this one shot, I knew I could expect to hear one of my favorite Rob-isms, one that you don't get to hear as often: "Captain Carrot! I love Captain Carrot! Captain Carrot's a superbunny!"
Your explanation for Perpetua and the source wall reminded me of Rita Rapunzel from The Mighty Morphin Power Rangers intro. XD "Ah, finally! After 10,000 years, i'm free! It's time to conquer Earth!"
What said about the Batman Who Laughs is how I've felt for awhile about it and the Dark Multiverse. They introduce this great concept and instead of exploring it over time it becomes a focal point that never went away. Aside from the awful Bane story with Bruce's father it has been here. Just constantly him getting away with everything and it all being some larger perfect plan. It is stupid and I am sick of it. We never got to explore the dark multiverse at all! We just got BWL who never shut up constantly there winning. It sucks and I hate it.
They could easily make a series of one shots about literally anything and make the most grim, brutal and evil stories every, they don't even need to connect things, can you imagine a horror comic with high quality levels with DC characters?
Character Explanation: Trigon(DC) Character Explanation: Phantom Stranger(DC) Character Explanation: Mammoth Mogul(Archie) Character Explanation: Durge(Star Wars)
There is no character explanation their is only phantom stranger. Seriously, the guy gave a black lantern ring a migraine when it tried downloading it’s memories after another succeeded in gaining control of the spectre(aka god’s wrath). If you can give a clear and easy to understand explanation of the phantom strangers motives and backstory beyond composite being and “deus ex machina incarnate” the writers are doing something wrong.
0:29 genuinely wonder if that’s a Justice League: Unlimited refernce. When Darkseid is taking the anti life equation from Lex that’s exactly what he says
*ima write a quantum mechanics theory that posits only 52 other worlds. you can do that, like we do w/dark matter or the universal constant - if you have something to anchor back to, you can force the math to reflect that as if 'true'*
Considering how confusing and over the place the recent events are, and that Marvel only did one "direct" reference to the DC in recent comics, I think DC is rushing everything they had before so they can focus on that secret crisis
Hey Rob, can you explain: 1)Trigon 2)Spider-Woman (Julia Carpenter) 3)The Mother of Existence 4)Kang the Conqueror 5)Mogo the Living Planet 6)Crimson Dynamo (Valetin Shatalov) 7)Bat-Mite 8)Blue Beetle(Jaime Reyes) 9)Solomon Grundy 10)Etrigan 11)Hellboy 12)The Young Avengers 13)Judge Death 14)The Tick 15)The Mask 16)Hawkman & Hawkgirl 17)the Mandarin 18)Steel 19)The Eradicator 20)Cyborg Superman 21)Reptil 22)the Doom Patrol 23)The Key(DC) 24)Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew) 25)Lobster Johnson What If scenarios: Darkseid gets a Cosmic Cube Darkseid invades Mega City One Lobo vs. Homelander & The Seven Ultra Man fights Homelander and The Seven Judge Death gets a Astral Regulator Judge Dredd meets Billy Butcher & The Boys Unicron battles Shuma-Gorath Mangog battles Doomsday All Might becomes Captain Universe Manchester Black & The Elite fight Homelander & The Seven Judge Death gets Black, Red, Orange & Yellow Lantern Rings Beyond Omega Level: Odin’s Doom(Ultimate Alliance Dr Doom) Chuck Norris
I look at it as the presence and the one above all as brothers who live across the street. Connected but not running the show of the other brothers. They work in tandem but have different motivations. Presence doesn’t go into one above all’s house without permission and the one above all doesn’t go into the Presence house without permission. But effectively they are siblings with a lot of the same views but different motivations and goals. On the other side of the source wall which is what I like to think as as a street is the Marvel Multiverses. Around the corner is Dark Horse and etc. if the source wall ever crumbles (I.e. DIsney buys out DC Comics or WB buys out Marvel Comics) then the universal realms would merge.
Presence as revealed in the death metal #1 is shown that the connective energy and the crisis energy is born from the presence and the source and the source judges are servants of the presence. Presence dosent care.
Earth-Three is literally Opposite Day Earth. With small changes that have a big difference. Most heroes are villains and most villains are "heroes". Though Owlman is not Bruce Wayne but his older brother Thomas Wayne Jr. Who had Alfred kill his parents and Bruce instead of Joe Chill. Then, Alfred became the Outsider.
I totally believe that batman could possibly wield each lantern corps ring separately, except for the orange lantern ring. I don't believe that even a dark multiverse version of batman/Bruce Wayne would submit to absolute greed. Even most of the dark characters "think" they're making the world a better place
I think the reason this is not a Crisis title because the next one (next year) is going to become a Crisis, Secret Crisis. DC and Marvel collides, both DC and Marvel has touched on this.
honestly given her status and power, odds are she is alive, but hurt a lot, probably what the darkest knight was hoping for or that just will play into his favor
I want to see Rob cover Spider-Man Back in Black storyline. Its a badass story for Peter. Also, DC/Marvel Heroes Explained: Midnighter. That be cool too.
Justice Lords are kinda Injustice before Injustice from the old JLA cartoon Also Perpetua is basically just getting some weird version of Lucifer Morningstars origin, the way you're explaining it which is weird
I can’t help that this whole string of events all roping in the original crises and even Watchmen will lead to a reboot to end all reboots, leading to a universe where DC can essentially move on from crisis events. It has so much of an Endgame feel that I couldn’t imagine them continuing on as usual. They know there’s confusion with rebooting and trying to explain what carries over and what doesn’t, so maybe they’re gonna try to take more of a marvel approach where they keep the most important lore for characters (like death of Superman and Death in the Family for example) and move forward with a storyline that involves little to no reboots
1 question I have is why are their multiple universes that reflects on Bat-Man and not the other heroes like Wonder Women, Super Man, Flash, Green Lantern,etc.
