INSTALLATION OF EV MIGHT BE EASY .. BUT HOW ABOUT SAYING HOW DIFFERENT EARTHING SET UPS EFFECT IT . And / if additional earth rods might be needed for it .. also what rating of 32amp idle needed eg 6/10/30 kw
Funny that Corey mentioned he thinks the consumer unit is secondhand by the odd labels. My house used to have a crabtree c50 too and one of the MCB's was labelled up as "vending machine"
I don't remember Rawlpugs made from asbestos, they were always brown fibre, there was an asbestos type loose in a tin which you had to moisten and roll into shape to fit the hole- I think it was called Philliplug. In my apprenticeship days we always used a Rawlplug tool and a hammer, could take 10 minutes to make a 1½" x8 hole, Rawlplug started to make 'Durium' drills around 1965, my boss had one No.8, he used to keep it in the safe!! I think they cost about 6/- (30p) then.
With all the regs electricains go by. Have you noticed that other trades don't bother or their regs have lower z Standards. A few times fire ro escape routes have been mentioned. Did anyone notice gas pipe around building. Plastic clips?
I noticed that on your EV installations I noticed that you mount the plug holder on the right, wrap the charging cable clockwise and then hang the plug into the holder, Thisbuts undue stress on the end of the charging cable. If you wrap the cable counterclockwise, hanging the plug normally, that stress is gone due to a smooth transition to the holder.Try it. En g,. karl schueler ee fcc emt
To be fair, the regs are pretty solid. Britain has some of the best electrical safety regulations on the planet. The problem is the lazy cheap buggers that refuse to follow them
That they may be but I used to be an Industrial electrical Technician and when all the immigrants come over from Europe they were given J.I.B CARDS for nothing! One guy I confronted, because he didn't know how to connect up a plug, openly admitted, in his country he was a farm labourer! So there are plenty out there, not qualified at all. Regs is one thing, but when it comes down to. cost cost cost all kinds of corners were cut.
@john christmas We even harmonised our cable colours to European standards to make it easier for them, when Red meaning both live and danger being the most sensible. Red Yellow and Blue being vibrant clearly distinguishable colours to identify phases, are now brown black and grey. So what was once the colour to identify a live phase conductor is now the neutral and what was the neutral is now a phase. Brown is now a line conductor which many moons ago would have been the earth and probably still is in other parts of the world, the wonderful logic spawned from the EU never ceases to amaze.
Great channel and content. At first Cory wasn’t my cup of tea, but I was proved wrong long ago. He is a great professional and explains things patiently and with care. Great asset to the company. Excellent work. Keep those videos coming.
Having worked on the meters for 3 years, I cannot STAND henley 2-tier blocks. Luckily SSE was using 5-way Lucy blocks which you would wire up Line and Neutral separately and they were far, far easier to work with and didn't break as often. The same cannot be said for our isolators. Bet every spark out there has sheared the screw on the top cover of the new Wylex isolators.
You don’t actually need a bag in a Henry, the “membrane” filter stops dust. But be prepared to pull the filter out in a bin bag so the dust doesn’t go everywhere, and bang the filter out on a tree or post to get the dust out of it 😀
Cory, I still have a tin of that asbestos filler powder in my workshop. Must be over 40 years old now, and I haven’t touched it for decades. It was made by Rawplug, and came in an orange tin. It was good stuff in it’s day, and as the apprentice I always had to mix it up with spit - ahh the good ‘ole days!!
I remember that too. We always had some in the toolbox at home in the 60s and 70s. Rolled it with a little spit in the palm of a hand and then squeezed it into the hole ready for the screw.
"If it's not educational then I might as well stop it now." :( Educational or not, the entertainment value of these videos alone should be enough to keep you going. I am not an electrician and I am addicted. Better and less bull-shitty than anything TV has to offer. Please don't speak such scary words again. Every job you do has something different - I have binged several EV installs and it never gets boring. Nothing wrong with being a performing monkey. Monkeys are fun.
Try the X1900 stretch 1999 super comfortable. I've got 1 different variants of them now. A little pricey but blow snickers out the windows. The Englebert Strauss e.s motion denim look pretty similar to what Corey's wearing they were pretty good but I've gone off denim now.
Cory you are an absolute brilliant electrician. Really enjoy all the content you push out here on You-Tube. I don't know why the main UK Power suppliers cannot allow qualified and registered companies to remove their fuses when needed. I can understand however them not allowing a bigger fuse to be fitted but if it's just a case of someone i.e a registered company and their registered electricians removing their fuse for safe isolation, then what is the problem ??...I don't see why this is such an issue if there is no other way of isolating the supply... My moan over..
I might be missing something here, but if you're a regular installer of Hypervolt, surely they could issue you a plastic/metal template to keep in your kit & use every time. I imagine they are under pressure to cut down on unnecessary packaging. Surely there are more professional installers than DIY purchases.
Just started watching this channel over the last week, I'm not in the trade but this is enjoyable viewing. Cory from 5:00...I'm always incredibly impressed by leaders who can readily admit they don't know something. It's a strong statement of character. Best wishes from Sydney, Australia.
That reddy reddy tail almost got as a firework surprise ...cory what's out man better put on some insulated gloves on some of those ...we want more of yours😂..take care ,keep doing it ,we love it.
This guy is a clone of my best bud who also is a electrician, Stuart, he is hilarious and always happy, I used to say Henry blok,when I was a young en, everyone knew what I meant, did not correct me, lol, "I have safely isolated 'don't ask me how" sssssshhhhhh, 23:40, Oyeah part P came about because a mp' s daughter passed away in uni digs, so yeah, the guy on the video is spot on, good lad,
? Is crossing the cables in a Henly block less 'explosive' with a TN-S supply, reversed polarity is definitely a no-no - particularly bad if left undetected.
Nice Vid as always Corey. Sadly until they close the “open to interpretation” nonsense that always gets used to excuse shoddy work, you’ll always be dealing with crap like that bad connection inside that widow maker board. Also the ongoing joke that still exists regarding electrical engineers legally pulling a main fuse to permit safe isolation needs to be sorted out. 🤟🏻🤟🏻
I don’t think there’s any open to interpretation that would make *that* okay - but there’s also the fact that it’s just been there forever. It’s entirely possible that it was tight, or at least more or less tight, when it was installed (and of course that was pre-torque settings). All the other screws on the board Cory checked were also getting an extra quarter turn or so. Things just loosen up over time (to be more accurate, over thermal cycles - that’s why the main tails got it worst) and as long as the regs assume “as long as nobody touches it it’s going to remain okay if it was okay at one time” this can happen. Not sure how you could fix that, especially given that most electricians wouldn’t want to certify this as safe, or probably even as “as safe as it could be given that it is to 1965 standard”, and yet mandatory replacements of anything but the very oldest crap is a hard sell. Here in the Netherlands, pulling the main fuse is straight up allowed, but *reinstalling* it is where you need a certified electrician that can put a seal in with his personal number on it, who also certifies that the entire consumer unit area is up to standards (but not necessarily the rest of the house).
Anyone watch these who isn't an electrician? Just wondering if it's just me that likes watching folks do interesting and high quality work? Not an electrician, no interest in being one or even DIYing it (petrified of electricity). So yea, I'm weird. Anyone else!? :)
Hi Cory. After over 40 years in the industry nothing surprises me now. All the time the DIY stores are supplying boards and any jo bloggs can buy one your going to get issues.
Electrics aside, the frightening part was the nails sticking out of the wall behind your head. I was cringing at the thought of a noggin-nail interface moment.
Here is a tip no charge Artisan😇. Before you do any work for any consumer you do a week of electrical data logging on usage by putting CT clamps on for a week. That way you have a great sense of the load usage and can really dial in the installation. It will provide you with more options and be confident with any additions that the installation is not going to be compromised by your additions. Moreover that extra step is in line with the Artisan way going above and beyond.
If the house has gas heating and the EV charger has a correctly configured grid limit there are highly unlikely to be any overloading issues even with a main fuse of "only" 60A.
@@bramcoteelectrical1088 😂 yep not for a standard install unless you go above and beyond. I do suspect when you do repair a property in the future with more DC smart devices, solar, EV and various other power needs - power quality issues are going to be become important and it will become an important part of future testing. At that point the busy sparky will be even busier.
For estimating I think I saved about 20 hrs per month by having them send photos in. Even if some needed tweaked those quotes either eliminated customers quickly or got people booked in even with the caveat that costs may change if we found crazy stuff.
Yeah, unexpected circuits can be simple with a bit of thought. Some years ago a potter wanted me to wire up his electric kiln. WTF? A kiln? But a bit of research and essentially, treat it as a commercial cooker. So, max current draw with no diversity. Simple.
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Fantastic spot that the lights flickered when you wiggled a tail, great testing technique ! Impressive that you went after it, and fixed it. Entertaining and impressive video. Also learned about the plasticiser leeching issue from soft polystyrenes. So, educational, too. Next door left their house, turned the power off, then simply cut an external IP65 plug socket from the wall, snipping through the supply, which they poked back flush with the wall. Next contractor in turned on the power, and left it on. Dry day. When it next rained, we had our own lightening show and explosions from the live supply end of the external plug cable. All resolved with a call to the new owner, and no-one hurt - but REALLY ! You can’t write this stuff.
Would you need them on something so close to ground level? ie there wouldn't be a risk of it falling on someone or obstructing an escape route. Not disagreeing, just interested too.
well said Cory on the state of the industry, i get sick off saying because nobody seems to listen, oh and the pixies removed the cut out when you was at the van or they do mine
I know who tug tested a live board and it did touch the earthed metal casing of the board main fuse blow and fuseboard nearly came off the wall.... he's now blind
Corey get the 4 fingered kitkats at Costco get 24 for less than a tenner. Don't keep the whole pack in your van though or you'll turn into a big unit like me.
Credit to you for venturing into the old crabtree unit. A useful lesson to be learned about checking all connections. I suspect whoever installed the small consumer unit for the submain neglected to check if the tails were secure in the crabtree unit.
I used asbestos rawlplugs at one time as my Dad had a tin of it which I inherited. As it was both easy to use and effective it was a good system (apart from the minor matter of the health hazard!)
It's funny hearing you talk about the state of regs in England. I'm in Ireland and if anything the regs are over the top in some cases eg. cable sizes but ye do have some crazy stuff like going on a short course and bang you are now an electrician how that is a thing just blows my mind.
this is thank god all stopping... the new CPD continued personal development you have to do for Napit and NICEIC is increasing the quality of workmanship now and not a day 🙄 sooner...
Great video as per, one thing you should always do before re-inserting the main cutout fuse is a short circuit test, this will indicate whether or not you've accidentally put a line or neutral conductor in the wrong terminal of the Henley block. To do a short circuit test use your voltage indicator and go between both contacts where the fuse carrier sits in the service head if your probs light up saying there's 230v then you've mixed your polarity in your Henley block
@@MrEnixa no you wouldn't you'd get a lighting bolt warning signal if your testers have single pole voltage indication, If you use Drummond tester it won't light up which is what you want
So work have told me my next company car is a pure EV. Not ideal for the type of journeys I do but hey ho. They will fit a charger though. Which one should I be urging them to fit?
Also going for company EV through octopus - only nice option is a zappy v2 from what I’ve seen that comes free install with car. Have to pay for a Anderson :-)
@@peterthomas9440 Interesting, what sort of journeys do you do? Some of mine can be up to 200miles + the my list is fairly limited so probably an Audi Q4. The guy at Audi told me to get used to hanging around charging points. 😬
Just an observation, I did not see a DP meter isolation switch in there, if you were connecting into a Henley block, or repacing it, that main fuse would have to have 'fallen' out at some point, would it not,? for you to make your connections? That wall plug you were hesitant to touch looked like a mushroomed head of the old wooden Rawlplug... yes, the word Rawlplug has an 'L' in it as it is the company name, all the rest are wall plugs or expansion wall plugs... it aint 'Rawplug' That product you mentioned that contained asbestos was also a Rawplug product and it was named 'Rawlplastic' Originally a British company named after John Joseph Rawlings, original plugs were a mixture of jute fibres soaked in glue and animals blood !! I only discovered that last fact when checking if the company was still British, just now.
That vacuum mounted on the SDS - I've had them on order for 4 months with Dewalt !! We get a lot of pre-2000 Artex and it looks like the best solution .... when I can get it
I've come across a house wired in bell wire! Many years ago I admit but hey it was cheap!! Even the old mauve twin twisted flex, stapled to the wall, with the excess nailed to the ceiling! Our term was its a wet string job!
Good to see decent sparks at work the only ones we ever see are shoddy ones working as sub contractors for the company doing work for the housing association. Ripped out our airing cupboard recently & left the junction box for immersion heater on wall & live & a random cable with new colours one side & old colours the other jointed with crimps & then wrapped in insulating tape again all live no reason for it being there shouldve been removed or jointed properly (in our bedroom) they also left all the water pipes too & holes in the floor. Only other thing he did was rip our smart thermostat out & run off with it without telling anyone so had to threaten police to get it back. Absolute cowboys the guys who work for the housing association, dread them coming round & quite frankly I'd rather pay someone who cares to do the job. Same housing association have also said I can't have an EV charger as they don't have a policy yet. I kid you not I've had to get my MP involved who is furious at them. (no reason can't have a charger, off road parking, modern board, spare ways, all DNO work done & standard meter not shared or included with rent etc).
Loose cables - just like I found after sparkies did our oven and hob circuits less than 5 years ago, also a number of 13 amp sockets. Reputable registered company but reality was sloppy
For that type of installation in a pitch-black electrical storage room, I would recommend an LED head torch band. Absolutely brilliant, both hands are free and as bright as day. Good job though as always!
Still got a 3 phase C50 board in service (also second hand). The breakers only have a magnetic trip, no thermal but they still comply. You don't need RCD protection on earthed armoured cable (522.6.204), so as long as you're putting a board in the garden with an RCD main switch and your EV charger has an RCD you could technically come off that old C50. Not that I'd want to either :D
No one can remember everything, but knowing that something should meet a regulation and how to check the requirement, then doing it the right way, is pretty much the battle won.
Good point about the PRS. Unfortunately, until someone starts actually enforcing some of the regs (electrical and otherwise) that are being brought in it only costs the good landlords. The bad ones don't do the work and get away with it. Ace channel!
Would it not of been easier, to either add a circuit to the garage sub board, or replace that with a larger one to accommodate another circuit. Apparently it's not just a radial circuit, I was told by someone fishing for people to do an ev course, obviously the laws of physics are being changed😂😂 Your right you can't know everything, that's why we have books so we don't need to, and let's face it the IET can't even produce a book without errors😂
I think those meter tails needed securing back to the wall would help. And stop saying it's easy it only because you make it from skill and experience.
