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DEBATE: Shabir Ally vs. Mike Licona (Did Jesus Rise from the Dead? 2004) 

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Shabir Ally and Mike Licona debate the question "Did Jesus rise from the dead?" The debate took place at Regent University in Virginia Beach.
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@protactics406
@protactics406 2 года назад
As a Christian I am happy we can get together and discuss these topics in peace and leave in peace.
@Carlos-sr8km
@Carlos-sr8km Год назад
I didn’t come to bring peace but a sword
@Nabad-deed
@Nabad-deed Год назад
@@Carlos-sr8kmwhat is this supposed to mean?
@klaw1425
@klaw1425 Год назад
But the truth must be told
@carloswater7
@carloswater7 Год назад
​@@Nabad-deedyou won't get an answer because even Muslims don't know
@nestor3459
@nestor3459 Год назад
Be discernful friend
@Nameless-pt6oj
@Nameless-pt6oj 3 года назад
Came here because Nabeel said this was the debate that convinced him that the case FOR the resurrection was stronger than AGAINST.
@ahmedvawda1282
@ahmedvawda1282 Год назад
I want to find out if all those dead people who walked the streets of Jerusalem after Jesus alleged resurrection, find their way back under ground?
@24kgenie67
@24kgenie67 10 месяцев назад
​@@ahmedvawda1282are you on drugs?
@lamoudienawezi8479
@lamoudienawezi8479 7 месяцев назад
Same
@kayelolita7230
@kayelolita7230 5 месяцев назад
I came here for the same reason...and that's many years after he died. Yet even in death, he still evangelize the truth. Eternal rest be granted unto him and may the perpetual light of God shine upon him forever.
@Ricebag1482
@Ricebag1482 Месяц назад
Gary habermas was sitting right next to him and was commenting. bruh
@evermateo6166
@evermateo6166 5 лет назад
These gentlemen were able to respectfully have a discussion on their beliefs. The rest of the world should follow this example.
@samimas4343
@samimas4343 5 лет назад
Yes. This is the call of the Quran. God orders muslims, in the Quran, to debate and have discussions with the people of the book in a wise and a good manner.
@fredericktaylor3237
@fredericktaylor3237 5 лет назад
Ever Mateo very professional. You’re dead ass right
@xxphillips
@xxphillips 4 года назад
Sami Mas Quran verse please
@dankussma645
@dankussma645 4 года назад
@@xxphillips thats total delusion. there is no such verse. he is lying deligently
@incineratorium
@incineratorium 4 года назад
@@xxphillips And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him Quran 29:46
@emerald7857
@emerald7857 8 месяцев назад
These two (Shabir and Mike) really gave me insight into what real patience looks like. I love how they didn’t get frustrated with each other but spoke earnestly through out. Brilliant debate, learnt so much as a Muslim. Honestly there was a few moments where my mind wondered just thinking about isa/jesus and all that he went through. I can’t wait to visit Palestine just to feel the ground of where he once walked.
@ubahmohyadin4503
@ubahmohyadin4503 7 месяцев назад
It's my dream too🇵🇸💕😊
@guyhuy
@guyhuy 7 месяцев назад
free palestine
@Haggseeker
@Haggseeker 6 месяцев назад
Lol mike did
@asadbegad1
@asadbegad1 5 лет назад
Man, I love educated religious people!!
@siyandamakhathini9214
@siyandamakhathini9214 Год назад
They make jokes and say please don’t laugh 😅
@abu-shoaib4670
@abu-shoaib4670 Год назад
As a Muslim, I think Mike Licona is a sincere believer in God. May God help Muslims and Christians triumph over the wicked agenda being pushed by the devil
@DavidGregory-v7g
@DavidGregory-v7g Год назад
Just drop it all brother
@rocksmichael3845
@rocksmichael3845 Год назад
Ameen ya Allah
@Sinha010
@Sinha010 Год назад
Islam is diabolical. Mutah, black stone worship, pedophilia, lies and violent conquest are all defended by the quran.
@Julie-h1g7v
@Julie-h1g7v Год назад
When Jesus told Peter that he was going to be crucified, Peter said " this shall never happen to you. Jesus replied " GET BEHIND ME SATAN ". Jesus said ANYONE THAT DENIES THAT HE WENT TO THE CROSS IS SPEAKING FOR THE DEVIL. HIS RESURRECTION WAS OUR Victory OVER DEATH. NOW WE CAN HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. THIS IS WHY HE WAS BORN OF A VIRGIN. GOD WAS NOT JUST SHOWING OFF. GOD WANTED ALL EYES FOR THE ALL TIME TO BE FIXED ON JESUS. MIRACULOUS BIRTH, THEN RAISED FROM DEATH. WHY?
@thecrimsondragon9744
@thecrimsondragon9744 Год назад
May the Great Devil help us to defeat the great enemies of humanity - Allah and Yahweh!
@TheMrpalid
@TheMrpalid 4 года назад
As a Muslim I’m thankful for the unedited upload and the polite discourse of the speakers. Peace ✌️
@Timakiwala
@Timakiwala 2 года назад
All God's on this earth is man-made.. Formation of the Earth starts from 4600 millions of year ago.. See the evolution of man, started from 208 millions of year ago, first human appears called Homo Sapiens around 144 millions of year ago in Mesozoic era..... Then from where these God's appears ?????,, Then Cenozouc era starts... & perfect man/wemen started ....No existance of any God mentioned.. From so-called God's:::Religions are invented to make partition between human to human. & Because of God's & Religions killings of human being, fighting, clashes etc are on the Earth.. Muslims, Christian, Hindu, Hibru, etc are formed in a groups to FIGHT.
@cmtxmeltown3546
@cmtxmeltown3546 Год назад
If I proved to you with Muslim literature that Mohammed was a false prophet what would you do?
@edisongroupltd
@edisongroupltd Год назад
😊o
@redsun5681
@redsun5681 Год назад
What polite did you see from Mike liconas side? Throwing bombs and mention he's 9 year old son evil sarcasm!.
@lookman-2844
@lookman-2844 Год назад
Christians can prove nothing they assert, it is just fables.
@DRDEEBB
@DRDEEBB Год назад
Professional debate. Both very respectful and debated in depth. Love it.
@JassimBjj
@JassimBjj 5 лет назад
I'm a Muslim. Great debate between the two. Shabir Ali well done brother. Even though it's (the video) over a decade ago.
@pakipal3280
@pakipal3280 5 лет назад
Mike Licona have steel balls , He Uploaded this debate Hats off . Not many christian debaters can do this...
@jivin1982
@jivin1982 5 лет назад
Mike Licona maybe not a liar, he just re post this debate for educational purposes.
@nomorezoutsbats9707
@nomorezoutsbats9707 5 лет назад
Jivin Quezon He won. Why wouldn’t he post it?
@jivin1982
@jivin1982 5 лет назад
@@nomorezoutsbats9707 are you sure? watch again and listen. heehehehe
@endykakiay6657
@endykakiay6657 5 лет назад
@@nomorezoutsbats9707 dude did you actually watch this??
@AbuBakr.Abdullah
@AbuBakr.Abdullah 5 лет назад
@@nomorezoutsbats9707 good one hahahaha
@hanialturk5981
@hanialturk5981 4 года назад
As Muslim I respect Mike Licona. I don’t agree with him but I do respect him
@xxphillips
@xxphillips 4 года назад
Hani Alturk You seem like a honest Muslim I think Allah made a mistake if Islam is true Allah knows everything before it happens. If Allah was going to rise Jesus to him self anyway why did he not rise him before anyone needed to be made to look like him so there would of been no historical records of Jesus being crucified?? please tell me a good reason for Allah not taking Jesus up to him self before a false belief was made?? How has making some one else look like Jesus helped Islam or Christians to become Muslim?
@hanialturk5981
@hanialturk5981 4 года назад
xxPhilips my answer will come from an Islamic stand point and it’s the Quran. We Muslims believe and claim that the Quran is the literal words of God, and since Allah is all knowing, all powerful then Allah in the Quran says Jesus was raised and saved from crucification, I would have to believe it’s true. You will have to challenge that the Quran is not the words of God to disapprove the Islamic narratives on Jesus.
@xxphillips
@xxphillips 4 года назад
@@hanialturk5981 Do you think it will be hard for me to prove the Quran is not the literal words of God?
@xxphillips
@xxphillips 4 года назад
@@hanialturk5981 Do you believe Islam is man made or Allah made it or something else?
@hanialturk5981
@hanialturk5981 4 года назад
xxphilips, Quran challenge you to do it. Falsifications test is in the Quran. if you can do it with empirical evidence then i will convert to atheism tomorrow. It hasn’t been done in 1400 years
@notoftentold4076
@notoftentold4076 Год назад
Its very easy for any sincere person to find the truth. Thats why im a revert to Islam now. Alhamdulillah. - From Denmark
@Peanut888..
@Peanut888.. Год назад
What made you go back ?
@gardeneroftheeveningstar
@gardeneroftheeveningstar Год назад
yes, what made you? go back.
@phewphew1288
@phewphew1288 Год назад
​@@gardeneroftheeveningstarthe truth of cause
@Peanut888..
@Peanut888.. Год назад
@@phewphew1288 The Truth ??? Islam the truth look at the conduct of your exemplar !
@gardeneroftheeveningstar
@gardeneroftheeveningstar Год назад
this is a general statement. i can only assume. any elaborations? or i'll stick to this "the truth of cause" ?@@phewphew1288
@mandidissportsworld4576
@mandidissportsworld4576 5 лет назад
am chrestian,,but after this debates have to check my believes and use logic in it,,,this guy ally is so sharp and logic
@jasonbabilonia3037
@jasonbabilonia3037 5 лет назад
Moulay Mandidi u need to check your spelling lol
@afiumer7752
@afiumer7752 5 лет назад
Watch Ahmad Deedath
@1TalldrinkH2O
@1TalldrinkH2O 5 лет назад
Yes, he is sharp. I believe that is why 1 Peter 3:15-16 reminds us, "but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence; and keep a good conscience so that in the thing in which you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior in Christ will be put to shame." May this experience help us to grow in our faith in Christ Jesus.
@fransbrian
@fransbrian 5 лет назад
Is Sabir Aly same as Ahma Dedat, or Zakir Naik? Watch Christian Prince
@fransbrian
@fransbrian 5 лет назад
@@afiumer7752 Watch Christian Prince, and not only watch, but also call him to debate, and you will lose your faith.
@ntenzz1808
@ntenzz1808 4 года назад
All respect to Mr Licona, for uploading this in full.
@carolleos6816
@carolleos6816 9 месяцев назад
The Apostles saw Jesus after he was resurrected and Thomas challenged Jesus who showed his wounds from the crucifixion. Not one one deciple ever refuted Jesus' resurrection. Jesus is the only one known for healing people and raising someone from the dead as he raised Lazarus who had been dead for days and his body was disintegrating. No one else spoke ideas unique in Jesus's day such as loving your neighbor.
@adrianawalisch9014
@adrianawalisch9014 6 месяцев назад
@@carolleos6816❤️💯💯❤️
@MecHlal-m5n
@MecHlal-m5n 2 года назад
Love to watch such debates, educated people always have respect for each other. Both of them are respectful. ✊🏻
@notdisturbmusic5884
@notdisturbmusic5884 Год назад
I'm a Christian, We believed that Jesus was God And God is immortal, And I wondering... Why Jesus was dead...😂
@DankillerGTAhero4
@DankillerGTAhero4 2 месяца назад
Because His body was human but His nature remained divine.
@michaelrogers3857
@michaelrogers3857 2 месяца назад
Mate im not sure you are a Christian if you dont belive he died
@trump.for.the_win
@trump.for.the_win Месяц назад
Jesus never died he just probably leaved his human body for 3 days and then he entered his body again .He ressurected he never ceased to exist !He said I am the ressurection and he proved it !Their God cannot even protect the Quran from a Goat😂😂
@tupapisoyyo676
@tupapisoyyo676 Месяц назад
He was with The Father, so he is eternal...he doesn't die,only the human nature did. Just as we die and our soul becomes eternal
@littlebear231
@littlebear231 4 года назад
I am in awe of the respect they have for one another and their differing faith. I pray for Mike and Ali that the Lord will bless them abundantly and bless those that watch this video. These two are amazing examples of how we are to love and respect each other's beliefs. God Bless.
@jamescarlin569
@jamescarlin569 3 года назад
i wish the world can be like that seriously.very refreshing
@nabilsalim1108
@nabilsalim1108 3 года назад
On point!!
@Hannestv4607
@Hannestv4607 2 года назад
All religions presented themselves as Llies when they denied Jesus his sacrifice! God is holy and therefore inevitably always righteous. So God can never be merciful, gracious, because grace is not justice and therefore is wrong! A holy God can only be holy if he Never does wrong !! So Fact is without Jesus his SACRIFICE out of love for us we would all be lost! Only YHWH is not lying when he says he is HOLY and merciful! Who is YHWH equal? Exactly no one!! JESUS gave himself as a sin offering !! A pure life for a life !! Because we have to be holy = without guilt otherwise God will judge us fair and just !! Jesus is YHWH and thus the Creator of everything and thus has the weight to wash the whole creation clean with these pure lives (Blood) !! God bless you
@izzyaisa3179
@izzyaisa3179 Год назад
@haraldtv4607 Christians are confused in understanding what God is and what God does. What God is is the owner of majesty and perfection and he is the Almighty Creator of the heavens and earth, he created death and life and his perfect attributes never change, GOD IS IMMORTAL HE DOES NOT DIE, what God does however, he does as he wills in his infinite wisdom, Almighty Allah is far above his creation and does as he pleases, Almighty Allah is able to forgive the sin of his servants through his infinite mercy without any pagan like sacrifices let alone attributing partners or a son to the Almighty who is unlike his creation or anything that the mind can imagine that is the ultimate injustice/blasphemy to God and is a very grave sin (if one does not repent from it before death). Christianity is a word that came well after Jesus pbuh left as he did not call himself that and it was then heavily influenced by the pagan traditions of that time much after Jesus pbuh was gone. Then the corruption and confusion in the bible began, that's why you find many different books and gospels by so called men such as Paul who claim to have had "visions" and or "inspiration" from God, altered the true message that Jesus pbuh originally preached to the lost tribe of Israel and not to humanity which was to worship one God as he said he did not come to abolish the law. Also the arrival of the prophet mohamed pbuh was mentioned in the bible as the paraclete which means the comforter the counselor. Hope this helped. May Allah guide, forgive and keep us on his straight path. Ameen. I invite everyone to read the blessed Qur'an.
@TexasHoosier3118
@TexasHoosier3118 Год назад
@@izzyaisa3179 Islam is a mixture of pagan religions with some erroneous Jewish and Christian teachings added. The Qur'an does not say the Bible is corrupt. Muhammad said that the Qur'an gets its authority from the Bible. Muslims today by the millions have dreams and visions of Jesus, and become Christian. The word Christian is found on the book of Acts. Paul did many miracles, Muhammad did not.
@kenza2534
@kenza2534 5 лет назад
Whatever what you do, the person that wanna stay blind will stay blind unless if she decides to see. Th e truth is cristal clear.
@taslemk8435
@taslemk8435 5 лет назад
Allah says ....(i paraphrase) seeing they will not see, hearing they will not hear...
@mosasa1307
@mosasa1307 5 лет назад
@@taslemk8435 That's if they choose to ignore. Please state the full ayat(verse) not a snippet, don't take it out of context.
@mcw0261
@mcw0261 5 лет назад
@@mosasa1307 you must harmonize the Bible and Qur'an by yourself. The Qur'an tells you that you must believe in the Bible: Injeel, Zabor, Books of the Prophets, and the Torah. If you do not have Iman, your righteous works will be meaningless
@resomex
@resomex 4 года назад
@@mcw0261 No sweetheart the Quran said we should respect it not "Believe in it" only if it matches the Quran then we believe it if it goes Against it then we strictly reject it
@mcw0261
@mcw0261 4 года назад
@@resomex prove it? I says that if you do not believe in it then a humiliating punishment is there. But all you have to do is accept Jesus as the Messiah the Word of God. And the Qur'an says that. Just have to accept it.
@werWeis5779
@werWeis5779 Год назад
Proud of u brother licona! As well I gotta admit as a Christian how respectful and therefor respectable Shabir ally is!
@Haggseeker
@Haggseeker 6 месяцев назад
So let's love each other against the evil world dictation. Having differences and respecting them will make us great Humans
@soodmm13
@soodmm13 5 лет назад
Both these guys are very awesome, and so kind. Mike is the kind of guy I would enjoy watching a basketball game with, and Shabbir is the kind of guy you could sit and talk to for hours over a few cups of tea. Y'all are awesome!
@jamescarlin569
@jamescarlin569 3 года назад
yo exactly
@islam_is_false_
@islam_is_false_ 2 года назад
And Mike won the debate
@Hannestv4607
@Hannestv4607 2 года назад
All religions presented themselves as Llies when they denied Jesus his sacrifice! God is holy and therefore inevitably always righteous. So God can never be merciful, gracious, because grace is not justice and therefore is wrong! A holy God can only be holy if he Never does wrong !! So Fact is without Jesus his SACRIFICE out of love for us we would all be lost! Only YHWH is not lying when he says he is HOLY and merciful! Who is YHWH equal? Exactly no one!! JESUS gave himself as a sin offering !! A pure life for a life !! Because we have to be holy = without guilt otherwise God will judge us fair and just !! Jesus is YHWH and thus the Creator of everything and thus has the weight to wash the whole creation clean with these pure lives (Blood) !! God bless you
@BesserGlauben
@BesserGlauben 2 года назад
@@Hannestv4607 Amen!
@BesserGlauben
@BesserGlauben 2 года назад
@@islam_is_false_ Did Mike really win if he didn't even have an opponent with arguments?
@peterpan-pr7ok
@peterpan-pr7ok 5 лет назад
damn shabir got me thinking ..........
@eternity6124
@eternity6124 5 лет назад
peter pan hey Peter Pan, if you read the Old Testament you can see that the Israelites would sacrifice animals (lambs, doves) etc. They did this as a command from God the father, pretty much killing an innocent animal ( which represented Jesus Christ who died in the future) the Old Testament all points to a man who would come to sacrifice his life for the sins of the world. If you look at the sanctuary in the Old Testament, you will see it was all symbolizing the real sacrifice that Jesus suffered. Islam was prophecied in the bible in the book of revelation as well, if you read the bible to find error and to purposely look for contradictions, it will be difficult to see truth because you are coming with a proud heart. If you take Jesus and his sacrifice for the sins of the world, if you remove him from the equation, as shabir said that we do not need an innocent man to die or we don’t need anyone, then what was the point of the sanctuary in the Old Testament? Which points to a coming messiah. The enemy, SATAN, does not want to acknowledge Christ’s sacrifice, if the enemy can make you believe that Jesus did not die, even though Jesus himself said that no one can go to the father but by him, then you reject Jesus, that’s exactly what Satan wants. Read read read. God bless you peter.
@KingKongHitDaBong
@KingKongHitDaBong 5 лет назад
There's nothing wrong with having doubt. I would recommend watching Dr Ally's other lectures
@Drizzymumin23
@Drizzymumin23 5 лет назад
Go watch Shabir ally vs Jay Smith and you really start to reason and think.
@eternity6124
@eternity6124 5 лет назад
HUH Clipz as human beings, yes, you will have doubts, because we cannot see things physically there or because we don’t know everything. But when it comes to this topic, I don’t know, it feels like shabir no doubt a skilled and disciplined debater. BUT, If you base your truth and your foundation on what men say, you are not building a sure foundation. Jesus said the wise man builds his house upon the rock. The foolish man builds his house upon the sand. When the rain comes tumbling down, which could be trials, doubts tribulations etc, the man who built it on sand will tumble and fall. Islam says that they believe in the Old Testament, but it doesn’t even seem all that true... poking holes here and there with no valid evidence except PURE speculation, speculation which has been mastered over the years ... idk it just seems like if I would doubt anything it would be that. Read the bible, most of it is simple, Gods will is that all man be saved and that none should perish... people over complicate things.
@KingKongHitDaBong
@KingKongHitDaBong 5 лет назад
@@eternity6124 I am a Muslim. I am not here to debate but I do commend you for trying to spread your religion. Their are many misconceptions about Islam, which is why people often have second doubts once they hear it's truths. It's not the fastest growing religion in the world for nothing. Islam is a way of life for me and billions around the world. You seem like a reasonable man, may Allah (God) grant you an open mind and open heart and have a blessed day.
@TheHawk1811
@TheHawk1811 5 лет назад
I do believe that Ally dominated the conversation but I don’t think he necessarily “won” the debate. They both have information to chew on. I hope they meet again soon.
@Clipahoy
@Clipahoy 6 месяцев назад
I hardly think Ally dominated the conversation. Nabeel Qureshi May his soul rest in peace watched the debate and he said Mike made a great case of resurrection
@JesusM.Sarmiento-ds2kw
@JesusM.Sarmiento-ds2kw 10 месяцев назад
Oerall, it was a good debate. Thank you. God bless!
@rumahtherapyechathalisa5748
@rumahtherapyechathalisa5748 5 лет назад
Great debate... inspiring and widening horizon. Thank you mr Licona, mr Ally.
@judithwason
@judithwason 4 года назад
Thank you for posting this debate Mike. I’m here after reading Nabeel’s biography and commend you for honourably defending our faith in Jesus♥️
@mobl7911
@mobl7911 2 года назад
What defending buddy lmao
@geoffreyk6229
@geoffreyk6229 2 года назад
@@mobl7911 If you want to I can debate you. I am christian.
@BesserGlauben
@BesserGlauben 2 года назад
@Numair Khan If you truly think that's the case, then you don't understand anything of this topic, the existing evidence, or how arguments are considered as good. Mike didn't even have an opponent in this debate. Mike didn't even use the Gospels as evidence, while Shabir never answered properly to the statements and evidence provided by Mike and only tried to attack the Gospels, when they weren't even being referenced.
@mo7mova752
@mo7mova752 Год назад
@@BesserGlauben revisionist history there. Dr. Ally made numerous references to the gospels to show contradictions and in some instances to disprove the notions put forth by Christian’s, such as the crucifixion, original sin theory. As for Mike, the truth isn’t on his side. He showed up and tried and made a lot of assumptions, which require a leap of faith to believe. Simply too many contradictions and forgeries in Bible to overcome.
@1724nine
@1724nine Год назад
Just compare the behaviors of Christ to the behaviors of Mohammad and I think you will see who is holy , true, and believable. I can give details of your prophet( who is dead) and we can know who is evil and corrupt. This man is like Satan who tells Eve …. ‘Did God actually say, you shall not eat of the trees in the Garden? This man is trying to plant seeds of doubt and he seems to be quoting miscellaneous books written not by the inspired words of God. The only thing this guy smoked was some majic mushrooms before he come out on stage .
@إبراهيمالزيادي-ب7ط
Islam is the simplest most logical religion. We have no drama no exaggerated emotions in our religion as we see in Christianity. We talk logic.
@maryseisaacs4773
@maryseisaacs4773 5 лет назад
Do you mean Islam doesn't have this drama. Al-Adab al-Mufrad al-Bukhari 1183-It is related that Abu Hurayra said, "I never saw al-Hasan without my eyes overflowing with tears. That is because the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, went out one day and I found him in the mosque. He took my hand and I went along with him. He did not speak to me until we reached the market of Banu Qaynuqa. He walked around it and looked. Then he left and I left with him until we reached the mosque. He sat down and wrapped himself in his garment. Then he said, 'Where is the little one? Call the little one to me.' Hasan came running and jumped into his lap. Then he put his hand in his beard. Then the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, opened his mouth and put his tongue in his mouth. Then he said, O Allah, I love him, so love him and the one who loves him!'" (Al-Adab al-Mufrad Al-Bukhari, Number 1183) Musnad Ahmad 16245-[Mua’wiya said]: I saw the prophet sucking on the tongue or the lips of Al-Hassan son of Ali, may the prayers of Allah be upon him. For no tongue or lips that the prophet sucked on will be tormented (by hell fire).
@michaelonwuka8447
@michaelonwuka8447 5 лет назад
A religion isnt meant to be Logical because you can never understand God completely!!!
@bjessical07
@bjessical07 5 лет назад
michael onwuka hahahahah nice one 👍
@tengbehjosephnyuma8278
@tengbehjosephnyuma8278 4 года назад
If Islam is that simple, why the different sects then? Why even consider some as heretics or even kill others?
@motherearth6796
@motherearth6796 4 года назад
If islam is true. Why kill apostate/ who leave islam?
@ashrafgamiet9055
@ashrafgamiet9055 Месяц назад
Mike was sincerely trying, may Allah grant him peace,. Shukran Shabir brilliant, calm & collected. Really nice guys stay BLESSED ❤❤❤
@Musta8787
@Musta8787 5 лет назад
Very nice debate but I am still to this very time still in shock that Christians believe their enemy is Islam but in fact the ones that were torturing and murdering Jesus wasn't Muslim or from the Islamic faith background. Their enemy should be the one's that are trying to reject Jesus and his teachings.
@andrew_koala2974
@andrew_koala2974 4 года назад
Paul, the author of most of what is referred to as the New Testament, swept everything that Jesus (pbuh) taught under the carpet. Jesus himself denies what Paul taught. Paul who NEVE met Jesus in his entire life also stated in a sworn affidavit that he is a liar.. So who do you believe? Paul or Jesus? One of the two is a liar . It is my view that Jesus (pbuh) would not lie to save his own skin. Jesus was one of many prophets sent to Mankind to put him back on track, as people kept going back to their old established ways after each prophet died. The SUN of God is the savior... If the SUN of God does not rise and bring light to the world, the world would be a frozen desolate place without life without polysynthesis, and life would not exist. It was the Church inder control of ROME that made the SUN of God into the SON of God. It was a grand deception by the Elite to control the population. The real Gnostic Unitarian Christians were slaughtered by the thousand by the Church even as late as the 15th century. The Church murdered philosophers and men of science to silence them. Jesus never heard of nor mentioned any trinity, Though trinities existed in some 16 earlier religions that Vhristianity borrowed from as it was useful to unite people by incorporating earlier pagan beliefs that people were happy with. The unification required such a compromise. But it was a deception that continues to this day. How could Jesus have sacrificed himself for man as he himself denies this. Even Jesus himself says: “I will have mercy, and not sacrifice” Matthew 9:13 ... So is Jesus lying?
@ok-sw3st
@ok-sw3st 4 года назад
Andrew_koala well said
@sivad1025
@sivad1025 4 года назад
@@andrew_koala2974 So much of what you said is untrue. First off, Paul _did_ meet Jesus on the Road to Damascus (read Acts 9). Second, Paul said the exact same thing Jesus said: Jesus is God. If you don't believe me, read Mark 14. The pharisees ask Jesus if he is the Son of God to which Jesus says "I am," then says that he is, "The son of man coming with the clouds of heaven" (a reference to Daniel 7, a prophesy of God coming to Earth incarnate) and claims he will be "seated at the place of power at God's right hand" (a reference to Psalms 110 where it's revealed that only God is worthy of sitting st God's right hand). Jesus then went on to be accused for blasphemy (again, something he didn't deny) and was sentenced to death since Jews at the time thought blasphemy was unforgivable. Jesus absolutely claimed to be God just as Paul preached. If you don't think Jesus was a liar, you have to proclaim that Jesus is indeed the Son of God and the Son of Man (God incarnate)
@gardenerr.o.m7828
@gardenerr.o.m7828 2 года назад
Roman empire?
@adventistmessage4023
@adventistmessage4023 2 года назад
A true christian has no enemy except Satan.
@BF109G4
@BF109G4 4 года назад
I’m a Muslim and I really like you brother Mike. You’re tolerant, respectful and a real true seeker unlike David woods who always cut speeches, words, and context just to serve his inner purpose. God bless you mr Mike.
@t4r478
@t4r478 4 года назад
Edge Abdullah question. Do you think Muhammed marrying a little girl immoral?
@BF109G4
@BF109G4 4 года назад
Jeremiah Reed At that time even your people married (little girls). In fact, Abraham Lincoln married his wife when she was 13. The marriage of early teenagers become forbidden by law in the 21st century. BTW, according to the Bible (Numbers 31-18) the Lord ordered David to slay every woman and boy and keep the (young girls who haven’t known a man) for himself and the army. Not only he practiced pedophilia but also rape.
@BF109G4
@BF109G4 4 года назад
Jeremiah Reed Wanna talk about the incest between Lot and his daughter ? Or wanna talk about God ordering his prophet to eat fresh sh*t ? Ezekiel 4-12
@t4r478
@t4r478 4 года назад
BF109G I asked you a yes or no question and you responded with a paragraph. Yes or no. Was his actions immoral? And what is your take on Muhammed when he thought the devil deceived him?
@walidmakbouli259
@walidmakbouli259 4 года назад
@KingOfKingz OK HE GOT DESTROYED BY MOHAMED HIJAB PEAAACE
@Sumotori.
@Sumotori. 5 лет назад
Magnificent discussion between two great and respectful gentlemen! Peace.
@benhutchins5594
@benhutchins5594 8 месяцев назад
For the last time it's called FAITH believe in something you couldn't prove is scientificly real that faith and gods mercy is key to our salvation
@morrisallensheriff5241
@morrisallensheriff5241 5 месяцев назад
Ok So the people who are worshipping idols are also right right? Because they've faith in them and they believe them Having faith in something, doesn't mean it's automatically right, you might have faith in something and be very sincere about it, but it might be wrong, Those who worship idols say the same, Adulf Hitler believed he was upon the right, so if you take your assessment, they're all right. To think that a man can be a god, is illogical, because men do not think they're god, people can called them gods, but they're not, like Jesus, like Cyrus, like Many other men in history whom were considered gods after they left the earth. So we should believe it? God said in the book of ISIAH That God is not a man
@adamsmith586
@adamsmith586 5 лет назад
Shabir ally gives logical evidences and he is very humble person. I have huge respect on him 😇
@mcw0261
@mcw0261 5 лет назад
My heart breaks for those that genuinely desire a relationship with God, and are struggling. But If you don't believe in Qur'an and your don't believe in the Injeel, then you have made your choice. The Qur'an tells you that the Injeel is the word of God. The Qur'an tells you that the Bible is the word of God. Only Muslims have to figure out how to harmonize there beliefs and it's not that difficult. It's only difficult for those Muslims that put fear of man and pride of Religion above relationship with God. Muslims should not be making distinctions between messages, they must take them all and accepting them ALL in faith.
@mcw0261
@mcw0261 5 лет назад
@solomon duncan blessed are those poor in spirit brother. Not all Muslims have made an Idol of men and their Religion. Some genuinely desire God, but have been lied to all their life. Literally since birth and threatened with death if they fail to believe. But we can't give up on preaching the Gospel.
@mcw0261
@mcw0261 5 лет назад
@solomon duncan I don't disagree with the mixing of light and dark. And I do expect to be heart broken often with this community. But Saul spent an important part of his career attacking the church, but his zeal for God allowed him to be used as a tool. Some Muslims really desire a relationship with God. Many of them unfortunately have greater pride and idolize Religion and community over God. But I do desire for Muslim to actually follow the part of the Qur'an that says to believe in the Bible, or the part of the Qur'an that's says do not believe in some prophets and reject the others. I believe God created an escape hatch even in the plans of the deceiver. And the enemy has spent it's energy attacking the escape door and Muslims are either afraid and confused (in expectation of judgement) or complacent and prideful (following the anti-Christ). The Bible told us this would happen. But we must attack the Spiritual ramparts of the enemy and create escape routes into the truth in all Religions to Christ so that at least some may be saved from certain damnation.
@mcw0261
@mcw0261 5 лет назад
@solomon duncan I am after men and women, not Religion. I could compare my desire to Abrahams wishes to save the city of Lot's family. I only wish to be a tool for giving the word of God to Muslims that God has elected. I could compare my desires to that of Paul, he became like a Jew to win Jews even though Jewish meant nothing, he became like the poor in spirit to win the poor in spirit even though he be rich in faith. Please do not hear my words as a stumbling block. Stand firm in your faith. Christ is Lord God in the flesh. Even the Qur'an tells Christians to stand on their Bible. But only justice exists in the Qur'an alone, I cannot find salvation in it. So I hope there are more lost sheep destined for salvation in different pens (gates) like Islam that need to hear the word of God, that need to receive the Gospel. I have listened to the testimonies of some Muslims who were saved. The harvest is still ripe until our Lord God returns. We must fight.
@mcw0261
@mcw0261 5 лет назад
@solomon duncan I agree with you that we cannot look back, thought I am not looking back for my own help, but for their help. Also in the book of Acts Paul entered the Athenian Council and quoted from their stoic Philosophers in hope to shine a light towards the truth. There are verses in the Quran that can be used for the same purpose. And all must hear the Gospel, including Muslims. Verses such as these; يٰٓأَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوٓا ءَامِنُوا بِاللَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِۦ وَالْكِتٰبِ الَّذِى نَزَّلَ عَلٰى رَسُولِهِۦ وَالْكِتٰبِ الَّذِىٓ أَنْزَلَ مِنْ قَبْلُ  ۚ وَمَنْ يَكْفُرْ بِاللَّهِ وَمَلٰٓئِكَتِهِۦ وَكُتُبِهِۦ وَرُسُلِهِۦ وَالْيَوْمِ الْأَاخِرِ فَقَدْ ضَلَّ ضَلٰلًۢا بَعِيدًا "O you who believe, believe in Allah and His Messenger and the Book that He sent down upon His Messenger *and the Scripture which He sent down before* . And whoever disbelieves in Allah, His angels, *His books, His messengers* , and the Last Day has certainly gone far astray." (QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 136) إِنَّ الَّذِينَ يَكْفُرُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِۦ وَيُرِيدُونَ أَنْ يُفَرِّقُوا بَيْنَ اللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِۦ وَيَقُولُونَ نُؤْمِنُ بِبَعْضٍ وَنَكْفُرُ بِبَعْضٍ وَيُرِيدُونَ أَنْ يَتَّخِذُوا بَيْنَ ذٰلِكَ سَبِيلًا "Indeed, those who disbelieve in Allah and His messengers and wish to discriminate between Allah and His messengers and say, We believe in some and disbelieve in others, and wish to adopt a way in between -" Allah SWT said: أُولٰٓئِكَ هُمُ الْكٰفِرُونَ حَقًّا  ۚ وَأَعْتَدْنَا لِلْكٰفِرِينَ عَذَابًا مُّهِينًا "Those are the disbelievers, truly. And We have prepared for the disbelievers a humiliating punishment." Muslims need to believe in all the scripture that came before it. But by their own words they will testify against themselves on the day of judgement if they do not believe in the Bible. The Bible is the scripture that came before then (according to the Quran). But again I agree with you, but you have to differentiate between my beliefs and my evangelism.
@sudutbicaraku7947
@sudutbicaraku7947 2 года назад
As a moslem, i salute you sir, mr licona for uploading this video unedited, love this kind of debate
@spadecaller6300
@spadecaller6300 Год назад
Muslim pak, bukan moslem. maaf ya
@sudutbicaraku7947
@sudutbicaraku7947 Год назад
@@spadecaller6300 bahasa inggrisnya muslim itu moslem pak :)
@CalvinMayes-zv5di
@CalvinMayes-zv5di 8 месяцев назад
Lazarus was dead for FOUR days.
@CalvinMayes-zv5di
@CalvinMayes-zv5di 8 месяцев назад
Lazarus was dead for FOUR days.
@JohnsonMathew-w3s
@JohnsonMathew-w3s 2 месяца назад
A book came after 650 years of death of Jesus just says it appeared to the people. Why it has to be so? Was muhammad's saying were illution and appeared to the people as though he is speaking just like Muhammad thought that he had sex with all 13 wives in one night.
@silvacs638jj
@silvacs638jj 3 года назад
❤️ Jesus I love you ❤️
@AwesomeExperiencez
@AwesomeExperiencez Год назад
I love Jesus too 💞
@tlfccrn
@tlfccrn 11 месяцев назад
I love Jesus Too ❤
@nedmilburn
@nedmilburn 5 месяцев назад
Muslims love Jesus too . Because Jesus was a Muslim 🙏🏻❤️☪️💪🏻
@clydehoppers6375
@clydehoppers6375 8 месяцев назад
There is a difference between having the facts of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. And having every conceivable argument against it. If Jesus rose from the dead, that means Christanity is the only way to eternal life in heaven and EVERY other religion is false. God made the rules, I didn't. Mike you did great. Keep it up and God will bless you. I'm proud of you.
@Alimaxim1
@Alimaxim1 5 лет назад
Miss Ahmed Deedat may allah bless him heaven
@matthewveerasammy5616
@matthewveerasammy5616 5 лет назад
Ali makarove wym miss Ahmed deedat? Who’s that now ? Mashallah
@Alimaxim1
@Alimaxim1 5 лет назад
@@matthewveerasammy5616 who is that now. well he is a legend who once live and break all the question to answers which christians could not figure out . Alot can be learn till today from his videos.
@jeninvp
@jeninvp 5 лет назад
Ali makarove Tell ur shabir call Christian price channel 🤣🤣🤣
@Alimaxim1
@Alimaxim1 5 лет назад
@@jeninvp Mr shabir said your channel hang up on him
@jeninvp
@jeninvp 5 лет назад
nooooo he lain Ali 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@muamerblazevic1837
@muamerblazevic1837 5 лет назад
God bless the moderator for saying "move past your prejudices". And props to Mike for uploading this.
@Hassan_Omer
@Hassan_Omer 4 года назад
This is a fantastic example of a great respectful debate. Hats off to both gentlemen. Thanks for sharing this.
@ronwaldoreyes2162
@ronwaldoreyes2162 Год назад
God manifested into flesh and He was in the world but even His own did not knew Him...Isaiah 43;10-11 there is only one God and one saviour who is He?thats what we are going to look for in our lives if we are not scared of hell..God is very precise What He said will be done brothers and sisters...ISLAM is very far from the truth and there is no thruth in islam at all..
@redsun5681
@redsun5681 Год назад
​@@ronwaldoreyes2162 Quran words of Allah say be truthful don't cheat and honor your family and other people don't insult other religions do not use drugs or alcohol don't follow the footsteps of satan. If you are saying Islam is not saying anything the truth is just showing your hatred against Muslims, clearly you don't even believe Jesus also because Jesus said love your enemies and you hate allies because Muslims are only fate who believe Jesus messias only different is Muslims believe Jesus messias as prophet of Allah "God" also Jesus said only true God is he's father, I invite you to Islam and TRUE religion what Jesus believe.
@abutorab1004
@abutorab1004 Год назад
​@@ronwaldoreyes2162😂
@bakhtiyarguseinov9402
@bakhtiyarguseinov9402 9 месяцев назад
@@ronwaldoreyes2162cope buddy. Try harder next time
@ronwaldoreyes2162
@ronwaldoreyes2162 9 месяцев назад
@@bakhtiyarguseinov9402 wjhy not u try me not ur buddy...
@barackobama3719
@barackobama3719 Год назад
you can tell mike takes this seriously and i respect that
@gassamabakary2297
@gassamabakary2297 5 лет назад
True shall be reveal ☝️
@newsamplifier
@newsamplifier 3 года назад
@darkblue It's ok, kid. 😅 don't feel destroyed. Btw, shabir is fast cause he have so many proof that he just can't handle it. He knows more than Mike. It's okay, if you don’t wanna admit it.
@natf6747
@natf6747 Год назад
As a christian i really appreciate the discourse. And serious props to Shabir! I wish they could have gotten through the moscommunication on the pre gospel, gospel thing and just moved on. They weren't getting each other and spent a lot of time on that one thing.
@ahmadnurdin0202
@ahmadnurdin0202 5 лет назад
I tried my hard to understand about Jesus death & resurrection from Mike’s explanation however confusion is I got. In conclusion, I rather to believe Jesus is brought/rose up by God and will come down to explain about what happened to him. May God guide us. Aamiin
@descobra5462
@descobra5462 3 года назад
That's cause the evil one is blocking you from believing it. Just continue to pray
@sandrinayousif842
@sandrinayousif842 3 года назад
many could say the same about God’s existence, doesnt mean they are right. goodluck on your journey
@vimochanaraosamatha5141
@vimochanaraosamatha5141 3 года назад
Impossible to understand with eyeglasses of Islam
@mobl7911
@mobl7911 2 года назад
@@sandrinayousif842 no, god existence makes sense, but people killing god for them to be forgiven is nonsense and only dumb people believe in that
@CountCulture27
@CountCulture27 2 года назад
Try this. From the beginning of the Old Testament, sacrifice has always been the payment for sin. The only perfect sacrifice for the sins of the world was God coming down and taking the sin on his shoulders and dying for all of our iniquity.
@trekpac2
@trekpac2 10 месяцев назад
This was such a MARVELLOUS debate. Thank you so much. I loved it.
@sidaligada3112
@sidaligada3112 7 месяцев назад
Shabir is cunning He moves away from the essence of the debate
@sidaligada3112
@sidaligada3112 7 месяцев назад
The Quoran produces hateful people and the most trouble maker in the history of mankind
@sidaligada3112
@sidaligada3112 7 месяцев назад
You can not get wisdom or spiritual reason from someone who is an unbeliever
@4thDegreeKnight
@4thDegreeKnight Год назад
Knowledge without Faith is useless. God bless all!
@Cesar1492Enjoyer
@Cesar1492Enjoyer 3 года назад
I'm Catholic but I respect Muslims
@Hamza000h
@Hamza000h 2 года назад
Im muslim and i respect christians
@ProfYaffle
@ProfYaffle 2 года назад
Muslims are mostly wonderful. It's their religion and prophet that are not good
@IbnMurrah
@IbnMurrah 4 года назад
*Timestamps for those who need it:* 00:00:00 : Introduction 00:04:53 : Opening Statements - Mike Licona 00:24:04 : Opening Statements - Shabir Ally 00:44:41 : Mike & Shabir Discussion 01:45:55 : Question & Answer Session
@halalpolice23
@halalpolice23 4 года назад
Thanks for this It helped a lot
@niceguy9444
@niceguy9444 4 года назад
Fancy seeing you here imam murrah
@robocop3100
@robocop3100 10 месяцев назад
Mikes opening statement of 4 minutes is obvious. There is nothing to talk about.
@AllaahuAkbar60
@AllaahuAkbar60 2 года назад
This video made me convert to Islam Alhamdulila. READ QURAN EVERYDAY AND NEVER IGNORE YOUR FIVE DAILY PRAYERS
@kronos01ful
@kronos01ful 2 года назад
Covert to Islam ! Are you serious? Why ?
@AllaahuAkbar60
@AllaahuAkbar60 2 года назад
@@kronos01ful Saudi Arabia is a beautiful country Alhamdulila
@kronos01ful
@kronos01ful 2 года назад
@@AllaahuAkbar60 sure it is ! But what about pagan Muhammad? Are you a muslim?
@leefromnyc
@leefromnyc 2 года назад
@@kronos01ful Muhammad restored Monotheism and tells humanity to worship the One True God The God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob. Islam is the largest Monotheistic religion in the world, the way you said Muhammad was a pagan, I don't even know where to start with your idiocy.
@kronos01ful
@kronos01ful 2 года назад
@Lie NYC Muhammed didn't restore no monotheism. He actullay created another man made religion and forcing people to go to another God called allah ,Muhammed made himself conveniently the center "prophet" Figure of this cult. Jews and followers of Yeshua are monotheistic .we follow the one God ,Yahweh. According to scripture Yahweh is also a Spirit and he is one whit his son Yeshua is the messiah the one he sent to the world to love bring hope and salvation of sin. Yeshua ( Emmanuel) Is and the father are one one not 2 or 3 , just one. ! Muhammed was to stupid to understand this and he never was able to learn scripture because he was to pridefull to humble himself to learn from a pastor a priest or a rabbi about scripture. So Muhammed ended up making stuff up and scripture and deceive many till this day. Islsm is a very dangerous cult oppression, fear terror and killing ( jihad and sharia ) is the force of convertion instead of love and truth. Please ! Repent of your sin and receive Yeshua in your life.
@voiceInDetroit
@voiceInDetroit 2 года назад
Mike positioned himself on a hypothetical hill where he would not defend the accuracy of the gospel accounts, but prove the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus based upon history and logic. He gave an excellent opening. Then Ally kept attacking the accuracy of the 4 gospels, which Mike did not defend. Mike seemed unable to get off his script to defend against and attack Ally's argument on different "hills".
@jabogtewan3232
@jabogtewan3232 5 лет назад
Shabir Ali was very direct and precise
@SUPERBAKI100
@SUPERBAKI100 5 лет назад
Haha
@chriscarver528
@chriscarver528 5 лет назад
He was precise alright..he precisely avoided the argument.
@chriscarver528
@chriscarver528 5 лет назад
Yes, sir you assumed right.
@fakihashami790
@fakihashami790 4 года назад
I agree 👍
@notgoodatall
@notgoodatall Год назад
@@chriscarver528 why are these muslims not understanding that he totally avoided the argument.. are they having some kind of problem in understanding of english language.
@kiaoranacruise5087
@kiaoranacruise5087 Месяц назад
As a Christian Shabir answered some a very solid firm response great mind and you can see the study and research just flowed from his mouth awesome answers .
@thomasb4467
@thomasb4467 4 года назад
Perhaps Jesus didn’t actually die? What a ridiculous contention. I’m 100% sure Roman soldiers knew how to tell if someone was dead or not.
@shorefulislam6902
@shorefulislam6902 4 года назад
Jesus prayed to God to save him from crucifixion, now the question is did God saved him or his prayer denied?
@thomasb4467
@thomasb4467 4 года назад
Shariful Islam Hiran God’s will be done. I hope you know Jesus, because no amount of good works will get you to heaven. You’re too evil in the sight of God.
@roohullahsahak123
@roohullahsahak123 4 года назад
@@thomasb4467 what if I do bad things all my life and believe in jesus,would I then go to heaven ????
@thomasb4467
@thomasb4467 4 года назад
Roohullah Sahak There’s not a person on this earth who does good things in the eyes of God. Ever tell a lie? You’re a liar Ever steal? You’re a thief. Ever blaspheme the name of God? Blasphemer Jesus said whosoever looks at a person with lust is an adulterer at heart at heart. Jesus said if you hate your brother you’ve already committed murder in your heart. Ever get angry at someone? You can’t do good things because God says your good works are as filthy rags. You are unclean before him. A sinner. And if you are a sinner you are going to hell when you die.
@massinashannie398
@massinashannie398 4 года назад
@@thomasb4467Hi Thomas, If Hitler believed jesus died for his sins before he pulls the trigger and commits suicide. will he go to haven?
@TentangIndonesiaKita
@TentangIndonesiaKita 5 лет назад
I've decided to do my Ph.D in University of Toronto in comparative religion. Hopefully I can have Dr. Shabir Ally as my promotor.
@Hassan-fc2ts
@Hassan-fc2ts 5 лет назад
Summary starts at 2:21:00 Incase you dont have 2 hours.
@ChemysteryKids
@ChemysteryKids 11 месяцев назад
Notice how he says that Muslims should not put Muhammad above other prophets such as Jesus, but he says peace be upon Muhammad every time he mentions his name but he does not when he mentions Jesus. Also if you notice (outside this debate) that Jesus is more attacked and persecuted more than any other prophets, deities, worships Gods or other religious beliefs. For example, when a person mentions they believe in buddha, Allah, Hindu, or that they believe in Zeus, there’s no issue whatsoever, the mood in the room doesn’t change and there’s no issue. However, once Jesus is mentioned, you can feel a distaste no matter where you mention his name, almost as if people don’t want to hear his name just like they use his name in vein. I believe that shows proof Jesus is the true Lord for the devil does not attack false gods.
@abdullahwasiq1542
@abdullahwasiq1542 11 месяцев назад
Bro we Muslims are not even allowed to compare our prophets to us they all were sinless and that also includes Jesus Christ PBUH 😊
@bakhtiyarguseinov9402
@bakhtiyarguseinov9402 9 месяцев назад
What the hell did I just read
@bakhtiyarguseinov9402
@bakhtiyarguseinov9402 9 месяцев назад
What the hell did I just read
@Lmao-q1k
@Lmao-q1k 6 месяцев назад
Peace be upon Jesus 😊as Muslim
@Brabossa_
@Brabossa_ 5 месяцев назад
@@abdullahwasiq1542no because your greatest prophet was not sinless bro. Please inform yourself. Sahih Bukhari 6307. if he was sinless why would he ask God for forgiveness. More the seventy times a day? Doesn’t sound sinless for me
@wesleycolemanmusic
@wesleycolemanmusic 2 года назад
It behooves me to echo the sentiment of my Christian and Muslim brothers and sisters as I congratulate both interlocutors for such an informative and congenial debate.
@surreal2958
@surreal2958 2 года назад
Amazing!🤩
@izzyaisa3179
@izzyaisa3179 Год назад
All of the different books and bibles were gathered much after Jesus pbuh was gone and the first manuscript known to have been found in Christianity was centuries later and it was the size of a credit card, the bible is filled with contradictions and God is not the author of confusion. The Quran was revealed by God (Allah) through the Angel Gabriel (may also be known as the holy spirit) directly to the prophet Mohamed pbuh and established in his time and was memorized by heart before even being put into text. Please don't blind follow and do some research, read the blessed Qur'an with an open mind. Islam calls you to worship the one true Lord of the world's who has no equals and can not be imagined in this world. It even says in the Bible that God almighty can not be contained let alone in this world, also mentioned that no one can see God in this world and live. In Islam seeing God is considered the ultimate reward even higher than attaining paradise itself that's how holy the Almighty is considered and revearead in Islam. Christians are confused in understanding what God is and what God does. What God is is the owner of majesty and perfection and he is the Almighty Creator of the heavens and earth, he created death and life and his perfect attributes never change, GOD IS IMMORTAL HE DOES NOT DIE, what God does however, he does as he wills in his infinite wisdom, Almighty Allah is far above his creation and does as he pleases, Almighty Allah is able to forgive the sin of his servants through his infinite mercy without any pagan like sacrifices let alone attributing partners or a son to the Almighty who is unlike his creation or anything that the mind can imagine that is the ultimate injustice/blasphemy to God and is a very grave sin (if one does not repent from it before death). Christianity is a word that came well after Jesus pbuh left as he did not call himself that and it was then heavily influenced by the pagan traditions of that time much after Jesus pbuh was gone. Then the corruption and confusion in the bible began, that's why you find many different books and gospels by so called men such as Paul who claim to have had "visions" and or "inspiration" from God, altered the true message that Jesus pbuh originally preached to the lost tribe of Israel and not to humanity which was to worship one God as he said he did not come to abolish the law. Also the arrival of the prophet mohamed pbuh was mentioned in the bible as the paraclete which means the comforter the counselor. I also wanna add that as Muslims we believe in and respect Jesus pbuh as a mighty prophet of God and was saved from his to be murderers and will return one day to affirm Islam and deny the falsehood and lies that were unjustly attributed to him after his departure, we as Muslims worship Allah the way he wants us to worship him, Jesus pbuh use to fall on his face bowing down to worship God the way Muslims worship and (no offence) not sing or dance around etc.. Hope this helped. May Allah guide, forgive and keep us on his straight path. Ameen. I invite everyone to read the blessed Qur'an.
@abelruiz8586
@abelruiz8586 2 года назад
Awesome job Mike. Great Job staying focused on Historic facts and keeping and open mind. God Bless You. God Bless Everyone and may you find Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior.
@KwabenaDuku
@KwabenaDuku 4 года назад
Who is here from seeking allah finding Jesus? Nabeel Qureshi
@ebunopata9855
@ebunopata9855 4 года назад
I was going to comment this too lol
@tkhanghal7613
@tkhanghal7613 4 года назад
Me
@muhammadfitri1500
@muhammadfitri1500 4 года назад
as a muslim about 2017 im searching allah then found david wood and his friend...now after 3 years studying im now not searching anymore yet confident that islam is religion of god
@thewaytotruth1544
@thewaytotruth1544 4 года назад
@@muhammadfitri1500 Islam is religious of devil
@kas12324
@kas12324 4 года назад
@@muhammadfitri1500 Alhamdulillah
@albertgallegos9938
@albertgallegos9938 Год назад
JOHN 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” King James Version (KJV)
@omaryunes1769
@omaryunes1769 2 месяца назад
Which “Begotten son”? According to David he’s also the “Begotten son” Psalm 2:7 King James Version (KJV)
@albertgallegos9938
@albertgallegos9938 2 месяца назад
​@omaryunes1769 Genesis 3:15 is a remarkable verse, often called the protoevangelium (literally, "first gospel"), because it is the Bible's first prediction of a Savior. The second half of the verse gives two messianic prophecies concerning that Savior: This passage points to the promise of Jesus' birth, His redemption, and His victory over Satan. The woman's offspring is Jesus. Being virgin-born, He is literally the offspring of a woman (Matthew 1:25; Galatians 4:4; cf. Isaiah 7:14). Being the Son of Man, He is the perfect representative of humankind. The devil's offspring were the evil men and demonic forces who, like a snake, lay in wait for the Savior and struck at Him. Their venomous conspiracy condemned Jesus to be crucified. But the serpent's strike did not spell the end of the Offspring of the woman. Jesus rose the third day, breaking the power of death and winning the ultimate victory. With the cross, Jesus "crushed" the devil's head, defeating him forever. So, in Genesis 3:15, the crushing of the serpent's head was a picture of Jesus' triumph over sin and Satan at the cross (cf. John 12:31). The striking of the Messiah's heel was a picture of the wounding and death of Jesus on the cross. Satan bruised Jesus' "heel," but Jesus showed complete dominance over Satan by bruising his "head." The serpent's (metaphorical) offspring are demonic forces and also those people who follow the devil and accomplish his will. Jesus called the Pharisees a "brood of vipers" in Matthew 12:34 and said they belonged to their "father, the devil" in John 8:44. In short, God says that Satan will always be the enemy of mankind. It follows that people who side with Satan will be at perpetual war with God's elect and that we are engaged in a very real battle between good and evil (Ephesians 6:12). Revelation 1:17-18 King James Version 17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
@albertgallegos9938
@albertgallegos9938 2 месяца назад
​@omaryunes1769 Genesis 3:15 is a remarkable verse, often called the protoevangelium (literally, "first gospel"), because it is the Bible's first prediction of a Savior. The second half of the verse gives two messianic prophecies concerning that Savior: This passage points to the promise of Jesus' birth, His redemption, and His victory over Satan. The woman's offspring is Jesus. Being virgin-born, He is literally the offspring of a woman (Matthew 1:25; Galatians 4:4; cf. Isaiah 7:14). Being the Son of Man, He is the perfect representative of humankind. The devil's offspring were the evil men and demonic forces who, like a snake, lay in wait for the Savior and struck at Him. Their venomous conspiracy condemned Jesus to be crucified. But the serpent's strike did not spell the end of the Offspring of the woman. Jesus rose the third day, breaking the power of death and winning the ultimate victory. With the cross, Jesus "crushed" the devil's head, defeating him forever. So, in Genesis 3:15, the crushing of the serpent's head was a picture of Jesus' triumph over sin and Satan at the cross (cf. John 12:31). The striking of the Messiah's heel was a picture of the wounding and death of Jesus on the cross. Satan bruised Jesus' "heel," but Jesus showed complete dominance over Satan by bruising his "head." The serpent's (metaphorical) offspring are demonic forces and also those people who follow the devil and accomplish his will. Jesus called the Pharisees a "brood of vipers" in Matthew 12:34 and said they belonged to their "father, the devil" in John 8:44. In short, God says that Satan will always be the enemy of mankind. It follows that people who side with Satan will be at perpetual war with God's elect and that we are engaged in a very real battle between good and evil (Ephesians 6:12). Revelation 1:17-18 King James Version 17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
@albertgallegos9938
@albertgallegos9938 2 месяца назад
​@omaryunes1769 Genesis 3:15 is a remarkable verse, often called the protoevangelium (literally, "first gospel"), because it is the Bible's first prediction of a Savior. The second half of the verse gives two messianic prophecies concerning that Savior: This passage points to the promise of Jesus' birth, His redemption, and His victory over Satan. The woman's offspring is Jesus. Being virgin-born, He is literally the offspring of a woman (Matthew 1:25; Galatians 4:4; cf. Isaiah 7:14). Being the Son of Man, He is the perfect representative of humankind. The devil's offspring were the evil men and demonic forces who, like a snake, lay in wait for the Savior and struck at Him. Their venomous conspiracy condemned Jesus to be crucified. But the serpent's strike did not spell the end of the Offspring of the woman. Jesus rose the third day, breaking the power of death and winning the ultimate victory. With the cross, Jesus "crushed" the devil's head, defeating him forever. So, in Genesis 3:15, the crushing of the serpent's head was a picture of Jesus' triumph over sin and Satan at the cross (cf. John 12:31). The striking of the Messiah's heel was a picture of the wounding and death of Jesus on the cross. Satan bruised Jesus' "heel," but Jesus showed complete dominance over Satan by bruising his "head." The serpent's (metaphorical) offspring are demonic forces and also those people who follow the devil and accomplish his will. Jesus called the Pharisees a "brood of vipers" in Matthew 12:34 and said they belonged to their "father, the devil" in John 8:44. In short, God says that Satan will always be the enemy of mankind. It follows that people who side with Satan will be at perpetual war with God's elect and that we are engaged in a very real battle between good and evil (Ephesians 6:12). Revelation 1:17-18 King James Version 17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
@M2ohamad
@M2ohamad 5 лет назад
Legend has it Mike Licona is still on that hill today. Jk great, respectable debate. Thank you for the upload sir.
@cent7169
@cent7169 4 года назад
This is a debate I as a Muslim wants, here in the Philippines Religious leaders argues using bad words and too much ad hominem shouting at each other, Congratulations Licona and Shabir
@TheDitronik
@TheDitronik 2 года назад
oh ! professor shabir is really very very very strong It is not about winning or losing but about the truth Mike Licona is a Respectable Person nice greetings from Germany
@knowthings489
@knowthings489 Год назад
It's not always about who won the debate it's about having civil discussion about faiths loved the video
@harunskywalker4942
@harunskywalker4942 4 года назад
Shabir Ally is impressive in character and knowledge.
@TexasHoosier3118
@TexasHoosier3118 Год назад
Shabir is a character to be sure.
@baibureh3268
@baibureh3268 Год назад
Very
@shahtalha9325
@shahtalha9325 3 года назад
Good debate but as always Dr Shabbir really finished it and left it clear.
@rajeshshetty4862
@rajeshshetty4862 2 года назад
No way , just eloquence 8s not enough. You need good arguments and that where Ally is left high and dry.
@abdulelahkhunji6871
@abdulelahkhunji6871 4 года назад
What an Elegant debate , i really appreciate them both, may Allah guide us all to his path ... ❤️👍
@greyngreyer5
@greyngreyer5 Год назад
Allah can't do anything because he's a thought in your head
@armageddon2192
@armageddon2192 Год назад
Muhammad is Allah
@redsun5681
@redsun5681 Год назад
​@@armageddon2192" Muhammad is Allah" ?! Muhammad peace and blessings upon him is prophet no Muslim believes Muhammad is Allah why are you lying ?.
@armageddon2192
@armageddon2192 Год назад
@@redsun5681 Muhammad is the god of the muslems
@armageddon2192
@armageddon2192 Год назад
@@redsun5681 Allah isn’t God, so Muhammad is allah
@CalvinMayes-zv5di
@CalvinMayes-zv5di 8 месяцев назад
I lay my body down because I have power to raise it up again.
@nickssunrisesandsunsets
@nickssunrisesandsunsets Год назад
Clearly, Michael won the debate, thanks to both sides for the respectful discourse
@googleboombox6214
@googleboombox6214 Год назад
He never spoke about this hill so how did he win? Dont make claims that arent there
@mithunmathew6042
@mithunmathew6042 Год назад
Great dear Mike.. 👍 proud to be christian. 🔥🔥🔥John 8:58 Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am." Romans 14:11 every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God🔥🔥🔥 “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me” (John 14:6).🔥🔥🔥
@andresbustos3454
@andresbustos3454 4 года назад
Great debate. Shabir Ally is a very respectable and a calm speaker. One of or the biggest muslim debater. Mike was very consistent and he present a very good case for Christianity. The vast majority of scholars agree that Jesus died by crucifixion and that the tomb was empty and that the disciples was the risen Jesus. Islam doesn't have any good evidence to suppose their case and they make an historical inaccuracy on the historical Jesus died on the cross. To me it is overwhelming that the Christian faith by the historical event that took place is the best explanation that support the resurrection of Jesus. Without resurrection their would not exist any Christianity. Why would the apostles and disciples rise their life as martyrs preaching about the risen Jesus if He really didn't raised from the dead. They were absolutely sure to have seen the risen Christ. He's was with them for 40 days efter His resurrection before He went up to heaven in his resurrected body. It Jesus wouldn't raised from the dead, again Christianity wouldn't exist. The disciples of Christ were frightened to death and from being cowards and scared they were miraculously transformed by seing the risen Christ to be brave men and to obey later empowered by the Holy Spirit and preached the gospel and the risen Lord and even being martyred
@user-rl1go9bg6o
@user-rl1go9bg6o 2 года назад
Jesus died and resurrected - more than 500 witnesses said it; Jesus didn't die - only 1 person said it, who is not even a witness, ie Mohammad, and he made Allah a deceiver by saying Allah replace Isa(counterfeit Jesus) with another man to deceive mankind that it was Jesus died on the cross, indirectly starting christianity.
@jesusfreak7777
@jesusfreak7777 Год назад
Good debate good different thinking. May God bless Muslim and Christian peace and love in unity.
@Papashaft
@Papashaft 3 года назад
Imagine if all religions can sit down and discuss the similarities and differences between themselves in order to find common ground
@AsifKhan-hf9zy
@AsifKhan-hf9zy Год назад
3,000 lives could have been saved - osama bin laden attack on 9-11 300,000,000 lives would still be lost = mao, hitler, stalin, WW1, WW2, various african wars, south-east asian wars
@jibriilmohamed6080
@jibriilmohamed6080 9 месяцев назад
They will all become muslim Muslim means some one who submited his will to God Every religion scripture teaches believe in one God and dont take each other as god beside the Almighty God
@MEGALEXXXANTHRO
@MEGALEXXXANTHRO 7 месяцев назад
No Satan CHRIST IS ABOVE ALL EVERYTHING UNDER THE KING OF KINGS YESHUA HA' MACHSIA I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible; And in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Only-begotten, begotten of the Father before all ages; Light of Light, true God of true God; begotten, not made; being of one essence with the Father; by Whom all things were made; Who for us men, and for our salvation, came down from the Heavens, and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary, and became man; And was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, suffered and was buried; And arose again on the third day according to the Scriptures; And ascended into the Heavens, and sitteth at the right hand of the Father; And shall come again, with glory, to judge both the living and the dead; Whose Kingdom shall have no end; And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Giver of life; Who proceedeth from the Father; Who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; Who spake by the Prophets; In One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. I confess one baptism for the remission of sins. I look for the resurrection fo the dead, And the life of the age to come. Amen. The Son Exalted Above Angels 5 For to which of the angels did He ever say: “You are My Son, Today I have begotten You”? And again: “I will be to Him a Father, And He shall be to Me a Son”? 6 But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says: “Let all the angels of God worship Him.” 7 And of the angels He says: “Who makes His angels spirits And His ministers a flame of fire.” 8 But to the Son He says: “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”The Untamable Tongue 3 My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment. 2 For we all stumble in many things. If anyone does not stumble in word, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle the whole body. 3 Indeed, we put bits in horses’ mouths that they may obey us, and we turn their whole body. 4 Look also at ships: although they are so large and are driven by fierce winds, they are turned by a very small rudder wherever the pilot desires. 5 Even so the tongue is a little member and boasts great things. See how great a forest a little fire kindles! 6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire by hell. 7 For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and creature of the sea, is tamed and has been tamed by mankind. 8 But no man can tame the tongue. It is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. 9 With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the similitude of God. 10 Out of the same mouth proceed blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not to be so. 11 Does a spring send forth fresh water and bitter from the same opening? 12 Can a fig tree, my brethren, bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh. The Untamable Tongue 3 My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment. 2 For we all stumble in many things. If anyone does not stumble in word, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle the whole body. 3 Indeed, we put bits in horses’ mouths that they may obey us, and we turn their whole body. 4 Look also at ships: although they are so large and are driven by fierce winds, they are turned by a very small rudder wherever the pilot desires. 5 Even so the tongue is a little member and boasts great things. See how great a forest a little fire kindles! 6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire by hell. 7 For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and creature of the sea, is tamed and has been tamed by mankind. 8 But no man can tame the tongue. It is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. 9 With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the similitude of God. 10 Out of the same mouth proceed blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not to be so. 11 Does a spring send forth fresh water and bitter from the same opening? 12 Can a fig tree, my brethren, bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh. 26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
@ratusamoce4403
@ratusamoce4403 2 года назад
After this video, millions of Muslims around the world surrendered to Jesus, the God who created them not Allah (Satan)
@_SMTY85
@_SMTY85 2 года назад
Praise God 🙏🏼
@kaziforge1144
@kaziforge1144 Год назад
Allah is simply God in Arabic. Arab Christians call God Allah too. Do some research first. Don’t spread lies it’s not Jesus way
@YHWH_sheep
@YHWH_sheep Год назад
@@kaziforge1144read the Bible. The God of the Bible has a name. Allah is the god of Islam. When Moses asked God what is the name He should call Him. God answers “ I AM” … and throughout the Bible you get to know many of the names of God. Jesus said, before Abraham , I AM. If you don’t have the Son you don’t have the Father.
@MUZLIM1234
@MUZLIM1234 5 месяцев назад
Islam is the fastest growing religion and you really want to put out that claim without evidence. It’s rare for a well learned Muslim to leave Islam for Christianity vs a Christian leaving Christianity for Islam. I left Christianity for Islam. Alhamdulillah alongside my mother who was orthodox Christian. She became Muslim a few days ago after many years giving her Dawah she read. She was not lying to herself anymore about who Jesus was. Allah is God. How dare you lie and so ignorantly say Allah is something else when even Arab Christians use the word Allah in Christian bibles. Get a grip. May Allah guide you. May Allah guide those whom are sincere Ameen
@Nisa-bp8ou
@Nisa-bp8ou 4 месяца назад
Alhamdulillah, still a Muslim.
@coldtruth6354
@coldtruth6354 4 года назад
Interesting..always love discussions and debates like this.
@RyanJamesConiendo
@RyanJamesConiendo 10 месяцев назад
praise be His name Sir & His wisdom He put into you 💪🙏☝️☝️
@info.901
@info.901 4 года назад
As a muslim i do not agree with licona but he was a respectfull and good person..this was a nice debate and Thank you Shabir Ali for preaching Islam Allah will reward you in herafter life Sabir Ali..
@HdHd-je2pf
@HdHd-je2pf Год назад
You or He doesn't even know he will be rewarded in heaven. Its only inshallah and mashallah. If he feels like it, he will toss u straight to hell. Allah doesn't love yall. u don't know how to get to heaven and ur god didn't show u how to even get to heaven. ur gambling with ur eternity. Follow Christ who was manifestation of God on earth and loved u to where he died for u and ur sins, so that you can go to heaven and led by example to show you how.
@Peanut888..
@Peanut888.. Год назад
As a Christian l don’t agree with Shabir Ali ! And exactly what do you mean by God rewarding him for preaching Islam ? What’s this reward?
@Peanut888..
@Peanut888.. Год назад
What’s this reward ?????
@info.901
@info.901 Год назад
The reward means he will be given paradise and will be saved from hell fier in hereafter life.
@Peanut888..
@Peanut888.. Год назад
@@info.901 Hellfire is a pagan dogma NOT from God ! As for paradise , paradise is NOT in heaven as the Quran teaches ! The Quran contradicts the Bible right from the beginning , to it’s end . They are two different books with two different messages. The afterlife taught in the bible is 💯 percent different to the afterlife the Quran teaches so how can it be the same God ?.
@Mujahideen68
@Mujahideen68 5 лет назад
Qur'an Chapter 19 Maryam "Mary" 19. (The angel) said: "I am only a Messenger from your Lord, (to announce) to you the gift of a righteous son." 20. She said: "How can I have a son, when no man has touched me, nor am I unchaste?" 21. He said: "So (it will be), your Lord said: 'That is easy for Me (Allah): And (We wish) to appoint him as a sign to mankind and a mercy from Us (Allah), and it is a matter (already) decreed, (by Allah). 22. So she conceived him, and she withdrew with him to a far place (i.e. Bethlehem valley about 4-6 miles from Jerusalem). 23. And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a date-palm. She said: "Would that I had died before this, and had been forgotten and out of sight!" 24. Then [the babe 'Iesa (Jesus) or Jibrael (Gabriel)] cried unto her from below her, saying: "Grieve not! Your Lord has provided a water stream under you; 25. "And shake the trunk of date-palm towards you, it will let fall fresh ripe-dates upon you." 26. "So eat and drink and be glad, and if you see any human being, say: 'Verily! I have vowed a fast unto the Most Beneficent (Allah) so I shall not speak to any human being this day. 27. Then she brought him (the baby) to her people, carrying him. They said: "O Mary! Indeed you have brought a thing Fariya (an unheard mighty thing). 28. "O sister (i.e. the like) of Harun (Aaron) [not the brother of Musa (Moses), but he was another pious man at the time of Maryam (Mary)]! Your father was not a man who used to commit adultery, nor your mother was an unchaste woman." 29. Then she pointed to him. They said: "How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?" 30. "He ['Iesa (Jesus)] said: Verily! I am a slave of Allah, He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet;"
@hara3435
@hara3435 5 лет назад
Only he didnt say alla lol that is the moon god silly billy.
@hameedpta9435
@hameedpta9435 5 лет назад
@@hara3435 ,brother, this is the answer of your comment Read qran chapter 41 verses 37 And of His (Allah) signs are the night and day and the sun and the moon, Do not prostrate to the sun or to the moon, but prostrate to Allah, who created them ,if it should be Him that you warship May Allah guide you all Ameen
@mu9090
@mu9090 3 года назад
@Zechariah12.10 yup .. Islam has not made up anything original, all is borrowed, copied, plagiarised.. ~~~~ Narrated by Ibn Abbas. Mhd took the sentence what was uttered by his scribe Abdullah bin al-Sarh, thus caused him(Abdullah) to leave islam because he realised it that Mhd was false prophet. ~~~~ The story of 7 sleepers of Ephesus was written by a Siriac Christian priest few decades before Islam. Mhd copy it into quran, but mhd FORGOT the details, whether it was 3 or 4, OR, 5 or 6, OR or 7 with their dog. Sura 18:22 ~~~ Prayer beads. Praying 3 cycles holding 33 beads was originally created by an Egypt Monastic monk born 298 AD. 3 signify Trinity, 33 likely signify age of Jesus when he died. A complex knot making was introduced by St. Anthony the Great. A Prayer dedicated to Jesus, Son Of God, was borrowed by islam to became prayer to allah, not realising the significance of the knots, each being 7 interlocking crosses. ~~~ Story of Miraj was copied from zoroastrian legends. ~~~ Prayer (salat) five times daily and using Sun's movement to specify timings were copied from Zoroastrianism. ~~ Solomon talking to ants: Jew's children bed time stories. Also pre-existed befote islam ~~ Jesus says : I am the Truth I am the Resurection I am the Beginning & the End Mhd copied what Jesus said & claimed them to be the names of Allah, in order to prove Allah is God,.. Muslims ask "where Jesus said I am God worship Me"- yet here quran tells muslims, Jesus is allah ~~~ the Infancy Gospel of Thomas is considered unauthentic and heretical. However, its story of Jesus giving life to clay birds made its way to quran. ~~~ The verse abt Moon splitting, copied sentences from a poet, Imru’ al-Qays While in Persia, missionary William St. Clair Tisdall, came in possession of copy of poems created by Imrull Qays Q 54: 1,29,31,46 ~~~ Ramadhan Fasting came from the Sabians (Harranians- moon worshippers and Mandaeans- polytheists ) who practiced Ramadhan Fasting before Mohd was born and since 600 b.c. According to 10th-century historian Ibn al-Nadim, the Harranians called the feast ”al-Feter” الفطر, the same name by which the feast of Islamic Ramadan is called, عيد الفطر ”Feast of al-Feter”. The Harranians consider their mood god is greater than the counter-part polytheist gods. Greater = Akbar. Our god is greater vs allahuakbar co-incidence (?) ~~~~ Surah 18:83-102 Journey of Dhu l'Qarnayin was copied from a Syriac Legend abt Alexander the Great. As usual, Copy without understanding the depeer meaning. If they need explanation, they need to read the original text written before the quran. Eg. Ppl with no covering of protection against the sun - who are they? Ppl who scarcely understood a word - who? What Iron structure ?
@mu9090
@mu9090 3 года назад
@Zechariah12.10 the list is growing
@mu9090
@mu9090 3 года назад
@Zechariah12.10. Yes I do. I was shocked with the layers of lie that islam was built on.. First, quran was never perfectly preserved, as cfm by sheik Y.Q. Second myth that Mecca is in Saudi was busted when Mel proves it didn't exist in old maps & Dan's report that there is no archeology finding there & early mosque qiblat directed to Petra instead. Now the myth of Islam origin is under scrutiny. The thesis makes a lot of sense because the earlier Gnostic Christians sect call Jesus Muhammad, even before islam's muhammad was born.
@prico3358
@prico3358 3 года назад
1:35:50 I love how he corrected when the crowed laugh. Those are some good manners and values and respect. I mean the respect there was over 9000 and the face of apreciation and relief from the other guy was also priceless.
@ismailmuhd2709
@ismailmuhd2709 4 года назад
wonderful and respectful discussion, Kudos!
@ResearchTheology
@ResearchTheology 4 года назад
Thank you Mike for uploading with honesty and integrity. Peace.
@davidworrells7931
@davidworrells7931 2 года назад
Jesus died on cross for our sins on 3rd day raised from dead
@jambiarbi4073
@jambiarbi4073 4 года назад
When you want the truth , Truth will come to you Alhamdullilah Ameen
@NICKY-lm2xr
@NICKY-lm2xr 2 года назад
Pedophila street dog 🕋🕋🕋🐷🐷
@ultravegito4339
@ultravegito4339 2 года назад
And jesus is the truth ohh come on musalmaans you got deceived by satan😵
@manhwainfinite
@manhwainfinite Год назад
Jesus is the way the truth and the life
@VainFriggus
@VainFriggus 4 месяца назад
“The evidence is in this book” “Where in the book?” “I don’t know you’d have to read the book” Guy is doing everything to not answer the question 🤡
@MMOInformers
@MMOInformers 5 лет назад
Both debaters tried their best and I respect the efforts put down from both. I also respect Mike for doing this, as this is not an easy task to do considering he was new to it and Shabir has done it for a long time, it takes alot of guts.
@samicope2343
@samicope2343 5 лет назад
Whatever people come to, we can all agree this debate is fair and respectful debate from both parties. Both religions having respect for each other, God bless them both.
@toreal4u
@toreal4u 11 месяцев назад
I can tell you it says that he couldn't be recognized, they beat him to where he couldn't be recognized. Imagine being beaten so bad that his own wife couldn't recognize him.
@The_Buster01
@The_Buster01 Год назад
As a constant debate listener, I have learnt to understand which debater is not consistent on his or her own logic. And that goes for Shabir. . Here are my points about his game. 1: Shabir said the Gospels are not consistent and evolving, so not reliable. But then, Mike said he would even avoid referencing Gospels for the sake of argument and Mike reference scholars and historians dated before Gospels were written. But Shabir denies the reference and kept going back to Gospels. 2: Shabir said we should trust his reference scholars but he consistently kept denying references given by Mike. 3: Shabir doesn't believe or accept someone else paying the punishment for others. Then why didn't he denied Allah because Allah let someone else took Jesus place.. But then he said God must have done something miraculous in regards to this. He said this with assumption 4: Shabir said he doesn't trust written proof of empty tomb because the sources were written 20 years later after Jesus. Yet he believed in the Quran that is written after Mohammed 5: In the end, Shabir ended saying what he believe what happened to Jesus is according to his faith. Then why is he debating about Christian faith about Crucifixion and Resurrection?
@acecream1411
@acecream1411 Год назад
As a constant debate listener 😂😂😂 Bro you have no expertise don’t talk big because the side you were cheering for lost
@The_Buster01
@The_Buster01 Год назад
@@acecream1411 Comedian. I'm not supporting anyone in this debate. I'm actually pointing out who uses a logic when he wants and then denies the same logic when he wants. You did not even read what I wrote in the first sentence..
@acecream1411
@acecream1411 Год назад
@@The_Buster01 4: "The Quran that was written after Mohammed.“ If you’d use common sense something like that would never came out of your mind Or your 3rd point both indicate that you simply didn’t pay attention to what Shabir says in this debate and on top of that have no Islam knowledge
@The_Buster01
@The_Buster01 Год назад
@@acecream1411 Are you accusing Shabir for not having common sense because I was using his logic. Abdul, do not read my comment like you are reading Quran, read it to understand
@acecream1411
@acecream1411 Год назад
@@The_Buster01 I‘d rather be an abdul of Allah than being a blind follower of Paul
@TheMass33
@TheMass33 5 лет назад
Who saw Jesus first ? Mary did. She wanted to hug him. And Jesus said. Do not touch me for I have yet ascended to God. Wait I thought he was God. Then he tells Mary that he’s hungry to get him Honey wine and fish? Dead people do not eat.
@MuhammadAhmed-qw3qp
@MuhammadAhmed-qw3qp 3 года назад
@kimutaiboit8516
@kimutaiboit8516 4 года назад
I like such fair and educative debates. Big up Mike and Shabir. Little trivia. The noun cross comes from the Latin word crucere meaning torture which gives us the English word excruciating. It is not the other way round as Mike claimed i.e. excruciating coming from the word cross. Thanks.
@PowerGurhl
@PowerGurhl Год назад
Wow it’s amazing this was 10 years ago 😅 he has so much knowledge Shamir Ali!
@Positivefactsforlife
@Positivefactsforlife 3 года назад
Wow such a Respectable Scholars Especially Mike , while Ally has his Unique Style of Deviating the things from the Point, He was unable to Debunk Crucifixion by Nailing. But Both of you got the Same Respect.
@hasinjinna7921
@hasinjinna7921 5 лет назад
Mike Licona is a gentleman. May Allah guide him to Islam..
@lionofthecherubim4486
@lionofthecherubim4486 5 лет назад
May the Father bless you and bring you to the truth of the Lord Creator of All things, Jesus Christ.
@AM-qv9yf
@AM-qv9yf 5 лет назад
@@lionofthecherubim4486 I was going to say the same thing. It is odd how Muslims say may Allah guid you to Islam. I hear that often. But when a Christain is compassionate for the Muslim, they say, let me introduce you to My Jesus. We never say come to Christanity or come to my religion. Have you noticed that? We always say, come and meet my Christ, the true Jesus. We always make it about Yeshua/Jesus. We never make it about religion because God is not a religion. He is a Supernatural Being of great Love and Justice. (Wrath) Christanity is religions. It is made up of many sects and all have different beliefs. But Christ is not about any religion. He is about salvation. Redemption. Deliverance. He is about Love Forgivness, atonment and relationship. He is about Family. But never religion.
@markandrade2497
@markandrade2497 Год назад
Pray for the truth🕊️
@samsonadebayo8626
@samsonadebayo8626 5 месяцев назад
Im glad i found this, get them to do this again now and you will see a huge difference. Christians just really got intentional about properly analyzing their faith and Im loving it.
@danshikat363
@danshikat363 Год назад
I'm actually turned to this debate after Nabeel Qureshi's biography. Appreciate both the speakers for such calm and respectable debate. May we all be blessed and lead us to the truth through this knowledgeable debate. Amen
@khampel9589
@khampel9589 Год назад
Same here🚩👉
@izzyaisa3179
@izzyaisa3179 Год назад
Believing that Almighty God who created all things with his infinite knowledge and wisdom came down or had a son whom he sent to be killed by his own creation is in itself utter blasphemy and the most irrational disrespectful thing one can believe in, claim or imagine of an all powerful all wise all merciful Lord, it is the ultimate sign of weakness and injustice to Almighty God who's never weak, he also never ceases to exist and is not touched by death which only creation experiences, He is the ever living, self-sufficient, omnipotent and the reason why hell was created for the disbelievers, may Allah protect us from it. Ameen. Indeed such beliefs are of the devil who rebelled against his Lord and is to the son of Adam a clear enemy till the end of times. Compare that to what Islam (which is pure monotheism) represents and how much Almighty God is revearead and that argument falls apart.
@drazam6608
@drazam6608 Год назад
@@izzyaisa3179 Islam is Polytheism Stone Kisser
@redknight8215
@redknight8215 Год назад
​@izzyaisa3179 It's clear to me you don't understand what the message of salvation is in Christianity. God humbled himself by taking on the flesh of man, he humbled himself to the will of the Father and willingly gave his life for us on the cross. You're right, God is not weak. He could have stopped his death anytime he so chose. But he didn't stop it because he loves us. Hebrews 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. Jesus died with joy knowing the creation that fell into sin would have redemption in his blood. Our God is just and punishes all sins, and he is also merciful, so he took the punishment for sins we deserved. Jesus eternally existed, he was not a created son. Jesus created man knowing he would suffer and die for them. Our God is love. It is not blasphemy. We do not say what God can and cannot do. The Muslim God is not a just God. He does not punish sins, he merely sweeps them away. And if he does not sweep them away, he says Christian and Jews will burn in hell for the sins of Muslims. Allah only loves those who serve him, while the Christian God loves all and seeks that none should perish in hell. Christians are adopted as sons and we call God our Father. In Islam, the highest relationship you can have with God is a slave to master relationship. I feel bad for you and pray you will know the true God of the universe. I pray you will see Muhammad for the false prophet he was, and Allah for the Satan that he is. God loves you, and he wants you in his kingdom.
@calebayahaomelicor8770
@calebayahaomelicor8770 Год назад
@@izzyaisa3179it is true that God is omnipotent, divine, cannot be held by death, as Jesus have shown
@TruthIsSalvation
@TruthIsSalvation 5 лет назад
Shabir Ally and Mike Licona both esteemed gentlemen a credit to their community
@TruthIsSalvation
@TruthIsSalvation 5 лет назад
Muslims knees are bowing down in worship of the one true God, Allah worthy of worship. Muslims are not worshipping a man Mohammad or Jesus
@kranthiraj667
@kranthiraj667 4 года назад
This is the debate Nabeel Quereshi mentions in his biography, which he attended as student
@moments8562
@moments8562 4 года назад
Hes in the presence of God now. Glory e to God
@Frostx-t7m
@Frostx-t7m 4 года назад
@@prenom8793 to become a Muslim you only have to take shahada. Nabeel has taken that.
@scorpion20dz
@scorpion20dz 4 года назад
@@Frostx-t7m no you have believe that Muhammad is the last massenger if you disagree with that than you desagree with the word of God in Quran he says that ' هو خاتم النبيين ' meaning Muhammad PBUH is the last and the seal of prophets ahmadi believe a guy called gholam he claimed he's a prophet after Muhammad and he received revelation from God and he created new laws and he also claimed he's the recarnation of the seconde coming of Jesus 😂😂😂 i mean he converted from confusion to another big one
@جاذباحمد
@جاذباحمد 4 года назад
@@scorpion20dz Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) did not create new laws. He followed the Law of Prophet Muhammad (saw) until the last moments of his blessed life. If you wish to discuss more on this subject, email me at jazabahmad123@gmail.com.
@habibysharmoota9981
@habibysharmoota9981 4 года назад
And he still stayed a Christian ! Lol . A joke
@CandiceLawless-li4fd
@CandiceLawless-li4fd Год назад
Mike doesn't seem to want to address the bible, but he's Christian. He keeps referring to going back to the other side of the hill, not the bible. Why is that? Because he knows the contradictions in the Bible.
@1Corinthians13.4_7
@1Corinthians13.4_7 Год назад
Are you a Muslim and bias as well? The only reason you think there are contradictions in the bible is because you have been brainwashed to believe so Whether you are Muslims, atheist or whatever religion Your supposed "contradictions" in the bible is an ignorant statement Shabir poses only a hypothesis to disprove the biblical narrative He has no solid evidence The quran has no solid evidence The only reason you Muslims take the quran is because the quran says so Historical documents much older than the quran prove the statements in the quran to be false Islam is a false religion From a pedophile
@kurida7
@kurida7 4 месяца назад
Lol what contradictions in the Bible? Talk is cheap, prove it.
@TheCartieyeee
@TheCartieyeee 5 лет назад
Legends Say he is still on the other hill waiting...
@moink789
@moink789 5 лет назад
He is not on another hill but wrong side of hill!!!
@achai6847
@achai6847 4 года назад
Why is he on the other hill? Alone?.. come back here..
@mu9090
@mu9090 3 года назад
@@achai6847 Apa yang Quran katakan tentang Yesus? 1. Yesus adalah satu-satunya orang yang lahir dari seorang perawan, dibedakan dari semua manusia dan nabi: Dia (Maryam) berkata, "Bagaimana mungkin aku mempunyai anak laki-laki, padahal tidak pernah ada orang (laki-laki) yang menyentuhku dan aku bukan seorang pezina!" Dia (Jibril) berkata, "Demikianlah." Tuhanmu berfirman, "Hal itu mudah bagi-Ku, dan agar Kami menjadikannya suatu tanda (kebesaran Allah) bagi manusia dan sebagai rahmat dari Kami...." (Surat Maryam 20 dan 21) 2. Yesus berbeda dari semua nabi lainnya karena dia disebut Kalimatullah (Firman Allah) .. Al Masih, Isa putra Maryam, adalah Utusan Allah, dan Kalimah Allah yang telah disampaikanNya kepada Maryam, dan Roh daripadaNya (Surat Maryam 171). 3. Hanya Yesus yang lahir dari RUH Allah; karena alasan ini Dia tidak membutuhkan kelahiran genetik yang tradisional. ... Al Masih, Isa putra Maryam, adalah Utusan Allah, dan Kalimah Allah yang telah disampaikanNya kepada Maryam, dan Roh daripadaNya (Sura Maryam 171) 4. Hanya Isa yang berbicara saat di buaian. dan dia berbicara dengan manusia (sewaktu) dalam buaian dan ketika sudah dewasa, dan dia termasuk di antara orang-orang yang saleh." Al Imran 46 [Yesus, bayi] berkata, “Sungguh, aku adalah hamba Allah. Dia telah memberi saya Kitab Suci dan menjadikan saya seorang nabi… (Sura Maryam 29-30) Juga, Alquran mengatakan kepada kita bahwa Kristus tidak membutuhkan siapa pun untuk mengajari-Nya apa pun, bahkan bagaimana cara berbicara. Siapa yang telah mengarahkan Roh Tuhan, atau menjadi penasihat-Nya telah mengajari-Nya pengetahuan dan menunjukkan kepada-Nya jalan pemahaman. (Yesaya 40:13-14) 5. Yesus adalah satu-satunya nabi yang sempurna. Semua nabi lainnya telah berdosa. Meskipun ini bukan sudut pandang yang populer, tindakan dan dosa mereka disebutkan baik dalam Alquran maupun Taurat. Isa adalah satu-satunya orang yang tidak berdosa. Dia (Jibril) berkata, "Sesungguhnya aku hanyalah utusan Tuhanmu, untuk menyampaikan anugerah kepadamu berupa seorang anak laki-laki yang SUCI." (Sura Maryam 19) Al-Masih, Isa Ibni Maryam, seorang yang terkemuka di dunia dan di akhirat, dan ia juga dari orang-orang yang didampingkan (diberi kemuliaan di sisi Allah) (Sura al Imran 45) 6. Yesus dibedakan dari semua nabi lainnya karena, melalui Allah, dia memberi kehidupan: Aku akan membuat untukmu dari tanah liat seperti burung; maka aku akan menghirupnya dan itu akan menjadi seekor burung. (Sura al Imran 49) 7. Hanya Yesus yang bisa mengetahui rahasia orang lain ...dan aku beritahukan kepadamu apa yang kamu makan dan apa yang kamu simpan di rumahmu. Sesungguhnya pada yang demikian itu terdapat suatu tanda bagimu, jika kamu orang beriman. (Sura Al Imran 49) 8. Yesus melakukan mukjizat dan tanda-tanda yang tidak bisa dilakukan oleh nabi lain. Dan aku juga akan menyembuhkan orang buta dan penderita kusta ... (Sura Al Imran 49) 9. Hanya Yesus yang bisa membangkitkan orang mati. Dan aku akan menghidupkan orang mati ... (Sura al Imran 49 & Sura al Madiah 110) (Injil juga menceritakan kisah Yesus membangkitkan Lazarus setelah ia mati beberapa hari) 10. Hanya Yesus yang menerima gelar terhormat "Masih" (yaitu yang terpilih). ... Al Masih, Isa putra Maryam, adalah Utusan Allah, dan Kalimah Allah yang telah disampaikanNya kepada Maryam, dan Roh daripadaNya. (Sura Maryam 171). Taurat memberitahukan identitas sebenarnya dari Masih, dengan mengatakan: Lihatlah waktunya yang akan datang, Firman Tuhan, bahwa Aku akan mengangkat bagi Dawud Cabang yang benar, dan seorang Raja akan memerintah dan makmur, dan akan melaksanakan penghakiman dan keadilan di bumi ... dan inilah nama dimana Dia akan dipanggil: TUHAN KEBENARAN KAMI. (Yeremia 23: 5-6) 11. Hanya Yesus yang akan mati, namun juga memprediksi sebelum dia mati bahwa dia akan hidup kembali. Aku akan menyebabkanmu mati, dan Aku akan membangkitkanmu kepada-Ku, dan Aku akan menyucikanmu dari orang-orang yang tidak percaya. Aku akan menempatkan pengikutmu di atas orang-orang kafir sampai hari kebangkitan (Sura al Imran 55) 13. Yesus akan datang ke dunia ini untuk menghakimi yang hidup dan yang mati. Guru Arab Al-Bukhari membenarkan fakta ini, dengan mengatakan: Kiamat tidak akan datang sampai Putra Maria turun sebagai Hakim yang adil. Sahih Bukhari Volume 3, Book 34, Number 425: Yesus adalah Tanda dan Rahmat dari Allah Kepada orang yang jatuh di bawah beban dan belenggu dosa; yang karenanya, keadilan dan kesucian Allah mengutuk mereka menuju kebinasaan abadi. Karena alasan inilah satu-satunya Juruselamat, yang bisa menawarkan keselamatan abadi kepada manusia adalah rahmat dari Allah
@MuhammadAhmed-qw3qp
@MuhammadAhmed-qw3qp 3 года назад
@@mu9090 Jesus is the prophet of God as were many prophets.....
@MuhammadAhmed-qw3qp
@MuhammadAhmed-qw3qp 3 года назад
@@mu9090 most of your information is either misquoted or misinterpreted in a way to super impose Jesus as God....which he himself never claimed.
@josiahtejeros4896
@josiahtejeros4896 3 года назад
One thing is clear to me. Shabbir Ally is a smart muslim apologist. He knows his stuff.
@surreal2958
@surreal2958 2 года назад
@Josiah Terejos a true scholar indeed!
@kangaroo0061
@kangaroo0061 4 года назад
I LOVE THESE KIND OF DEBATES IT WAS HEALTHY CONVERSATIONS TO KNOWS ABOUT TRUTES .....
@멸문멸공-b4c
@멸문멸공-b4c 10 месяцев назад
Ally is really smart and rational.
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