DEBATE: Should Barry Bonds Be a Hall-of-Famer? l THE ODD COUPLE 

Bonds was a hall of famer long before people thought he was on roids

I absolutely hated Bonds, but without question, he is the greatest hitter I have ever seen. Edit: If Bonds hadn't of been intentionally walked so much the year he hit 73 he would have hit 80 to 90 HR's. Lol

Barry Bonds was a HOF based on years with the Pirates alone. He was one of the players that brought ratings to baseball and people turned a blind eye to his steroid use. His bad relationship with the media is another reason he isn't in the Hall.

The title says “debate” but there is no debate Barry Bonds is a first Ballot Hall of Famer

I use to go Padre games as a kid from 84-2004 Barry was a hall of famer pre steroids easily. The problems is Barry pissed off the baseball writers.

Barry Bonds AND Pete Rose need to be in the HOF!!!💯💯

If bagwell,david ortiz, piazza and pudge rodriguez are in the hof, bonds should be in.

I have followed Bonds VERY closely from 1990 until his retirement. Yes he was EXTREMELY arrogant/cocky. He was not publicly friendly. He was not kind to all media. Yet, I have never seen such talent, EVER. To me, Barry Bonds was the greatest player that I had ever seen since. He was a HOF player if he would have retired in 94. It is also inaccurate that he "blew up" in 99-00. Since I followed him up close I saw his physical progression. Year after year he was getting bigger. I really noticed it between 93-96 and already looked really menacing. Did his upper body get bigger in 99-00? yes but it was not a 1988 Bonds to a 1999 Bonds. There was a natural progression. If he used substances that made him grow or become stronger I do not know but, when Bonds hit HR's against Gagne, Randy Johnson, and whoever was placed infront of him, no one can say with a straight face that he hit those thanks to steroids. The fact that he is not in the HOF is simply the writers revenge. It has nothing to do with his talent. It is hatred and hypocrisy.

Barry Bonds was already a Hall of Famer when he was skinny in Pittsburgh....Hand and eye coordination is the key 🔑.....and that's FACTUAL 💯

Without question Bonds should be a Hall of Famer..

Bonds is a 1st ballot hall of famer. Even if the steroids added an extra 100 home runs to his total, take them away and he’s still at 662. And what everyone forgets , he was hitting against pitchers who were also on steroids and PED’s and growth hormone. Put an asterisk next to the guys who played between 1988-2007, call it the steroid era, and put these guys in the hall of fame that deserve to be there. And stop talking about this nonsense

big head Barry needs to be in the hall. he was better than anyone in that era and he generated a huge amount of money for the mlb

He was a hall of gamer before he blew up.. so yes, he’s a hofer in my eyes and most peoples

A Hall of Fame without Barry Bonds is not a legitimate Hall of Fame.

Absolutely yes!!! Berry should be in the Hall Of Fame.

Chris and Rob knocked this segment OUT THE PARK lets go 🔥

Bonds was already 400 Homers in when started the juice

Barry Bonds is the total best baseball player ever. Period.

Bonds deserved to be in the hall of fame just for the first half of his career and he didnt use PEDs during that time in his career.

My problem is not with Barry Bonds or any player who allegedly or did use steroids in the steroid era. My problem is with MLB because the leadership knew of it beginning with Ken Caminiti and did nothing but accept the money from sold-out stadiums and media hype. Then when their pockets overflowed with cash they became "sanctimonious." Bonds, Clemons, McGuire, Palmeiro, Sosa all belong in the HOF. But Bonds, McGuire, and Clemens are absolutes.

Bonds is one of the greatest hitters on or off the juice the sport has ever seen, but with it he was superman. Absolute Hall of Famer.

Rob has literally said before that his BBWAA vote is his most precious possession moreso than if he ever had a kid lmfao. You gotta respect that level of dedication and love for baseball

Rob Parker back after another vacation I see smh😂

Bonds basically had TWO hall of fame careers. The greatest hitter I've ever seen, and there will never be another player as dominant. 7 MVPs. The most feared player of all time!

The 2004 Red Sox had 2 juicers in the heart of their lineup (Manny Ramirez & David Ortiz).

Barry Bonds is the single most dominant player in team sports that I've ever seen and that includes Michael Jordan.....not the greatest winner which would be MJ....but the most dominant within their sport......

David Ortiz is in the damn Hall of Fame He was on the juice

So we’re just going to ignore the fact that rob parker won’t vote Tom Brady into the hall of fame because of deflated footballs but will look the other way when Barry Bonds uses steroids??

whoever brings up the Steroid use clearly just doesn’t like Bonds! a bunch of guys were using at that time (Canseco, McGwire, Sosa) fair is fair 🤷🏽‍♂️

Steroids were being used in the early 80's by most WWF wrestlers. So it wasn't something people didn't know about.

Love what Bonds did during that amazing stretch steroids or not. He was phenomenal. It's like the 100 meter race in track, they're all doing something most have been suspended at one point in their careers. But I do not care, I want to see the fastest times, the most home runs etc.

Bond.. Hall of Fame!! No questions about it 💯

Curt schilling should be a hall of famer but he’s being denied because of his political views which is ridiculous.

Barry bonds was the greatest player of his generation. That is a hall of famer

BONDS & PETE ROSE WITH HIS 4200 HITS 3 BATTING TITLES 3 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIPS WORLD SERIES MVP SHOULD BOTH BE IN THE MLB HALL OF FAME 💯💯🤞🏿

Pete Rose needs to be in the Hall also.

Barry Bonds one of the greatest players ever. Absolutely he’s a HOF

It shouldn’t even be a question. Yes.

As someone who has never watched baseball heavy when bonds was going for the hr record I was watching for weeks

YES!!! I used to watch the race between Barry and McGwire and Sosa!!! Loved the ball leaving the Stadium into the Ocean to be retrieved by Boaters!!!

Rob back from load management already? Lol

They were all taking gas, even if the 70's. Hell, even in the 60's bodybuilders were taking. Go back further, and Russian Olympians were taking. EVERYONE HAS BEEN TAKING FOR DECADES. And don't let anyone fool you into thinking they are not taking anymore. They still are.

The real reason Bonds is not in the HOF is that reporters found their interactions with him distasteful, but Ty Cobb had no problems getting in.

Barry is the greatest hitter I ever saw.

I'm going to save this video so I can remember all of Rob's points when this conversation comes up in the future. He nailed it 😂

Si, es el mejor jugador que vi en mi vida, si no esta en el salon de la fama entonces el salon de la fama no vale nada.

For the Record Bobby Bonds was Built Hit 332 Home Runs and Stole a Ton of Bases with 914 Walks 75 intentional. They don't know what Supplements Ruth, Maris, Ted Williams, and Harmon Killebrew were taking in that Era. Barry Bonds was Awesome, and the Scariest Hitter That Ever Stood in the Box Flat Out.

Another great debate fellas. Way to take a look at both sides.

He wasn't just knocking it out of the park he was crushing the ball I've never seen nothing like that

Agreed with all of this! Barry Bonds needs to be in the Hall of Fame immediately!

Bonds hit the ball like nobody ever did. The Achilles heel of baseball, the intentional walk was exposed. Put him in.

You see Rob put that phone up for them baseball topics 😂

The funny thing is Bonds only hit over 50 home runs once (73)

Bonds should be in. Period. If "everyone" was using is some fashion, was it really an advantage? Second, I always suspected that the first players to get on steroids during that era were the pitchers. Remember, before the HR kings there were the freak strikeout, high-heat pitchers like Rob Dibble. I always suspected him of being on something before any other player. To the point of Pudge losing 40 pounds... This is not as far-fetched as this dude makes it out to be. I did it myself. In 2004, when I was 36 years old, I went from nearly 240 pounds to about 182 in about 5 and a half months by eating nothing but soups and salads, cutting out alcohol and sodas, and walking about 4 miles every day. So for an athlete like Pudge to claim he did the same is not as stretch. You can suspect he was on the juice and probably be right, but that doesn't mean that his story isn't real either. In my case, in case you are wondering if I got weaker by the "rapid" weight loss, the answer is no. I was able to walk those 4 miles at a decent pace (in little over an hour) and I used to do over 1,000 ab crunches and still work a regular 8-hour job.

Love him or hate him, Bonds breaking the home run record was must watch TV and those juice years were the most culturally relevant I've ever seen the MLB. Chicks dig the long ball.

Yes. The only reason why Bonds isn't a HoFer is because his perception among media members. This was made all the more apparent when Ortiz got in.

The crazy part is that he never tested positive for steroids. His name was on the Biogenesis ledger, but so were the initials LJ. The media won't touch that though.

I don't watch much baseball but you guys make fantastic points! Love the authenticity as always!

He’s the best hitter ever - let’s get real! MLB HOF is a farce!

Way to go Rob and Chris!! Bonds should be in the hall of fame for all of the reasons you discussed. Clemens, Sosa and McGuire should be in as well. Bonds was hands down the best!

I think that the reason some guys have been targeted, is their attitude towards the steroid investigations. So it was more a character ban. But at the end of the day, you guys are right.

His work and stats with the pirates alone was worthy of HoF

Life long Dodgers fan here! I hate the Giants but Bonds was one of my favorite players ever.

YES!!! Put him in!!! Tell me which is the CLEAN period. Performance enhancement may have been at Munich Olympic Games in 1938!!

If he's not in the HOF, it's not a real HOF.

Sosa,McGwire,Palmeiro,Clemens, Bonds Get them in the HOF

I agreed with your views before but you made some great new points here I hadn't thought of. I don't think the writers should make the decisions about the Hall because if they were offended by someone like Bonds,Albert Belle, Shilling or possibly Delgado had HOF careers, they keep them out. Which is childish. It's about what they did on the field. And what Rose did playing harder than anyone should trump what he did (betting not throwing a game) when his playing days were over.

I agree 100%. I think Rafael Palmeiro also needs to be in HOF.

Don't forget that Barry despised the same baseball press that used to bash his father...These sportswriters were a joke!!!

I think what people forget too is Clemens and Bonds weren’t liked by the media. Also, add in how vilified Clemens was too for throwing the piece of bat at Piazza and then the affair with his babysitter? It’s less about steroids and it’s personal revenge for a lot of these voters

The baseball writers are to blame for the steroid problem in Baseball.

Everything you guys are sharing is exactly why I can barely even look at baseball standings anymore, let alone a game. And I won't be able to watch them again until they put Bonds & Clemons in the HOF.

Wow!!! I didn’t know any of this history! I’ve always thought Barry didn’t belong in the HOF… I have to rethink this…

Barry bonds should of been in the HOF! 🤦🏿‍♂️ Little head or the Big head Bonds was a HOFer!!

This the same man that said Brady shouldn’t be in the hall of fame for deflate gate.

When you go to court and win, it’s no longer about the perception of people. He proved his case and should be in the Hall.

Guys, let's end the debate about Bonds and everybody else who is not in the HOF but has the credentials to be there. Another facility needs to be erected. Call it the Hall of Shame. Put in there a bust of every player who should be in the HOF but disgraced themselves in some way that prevented them from being inducted. Each bust should have its head hanging down, the lighting in the room should be dimmed and the ceiling should have a mural of dark clouds painted on it. This way these great athlete's accomplishments on the field are finally recognized but, in a way, so that their shame and the disgrace they brought to the game is recognized as well.

Barry Bonds deserves to be in the hall of Fame! No question! Don't care what anyone says! He was a great player before the alleged steroid use!

It’s a crime that Bonds is not in the H.O.F 😡😡

Hundreds of reasons -- he is 200% better than his father ( who is in HoF)-- it is disgusting shame and personal

Bonds is the goat. Having said that, men who were great players around the era and with no suspicion surrounding them got shafted and were either one and done on HoF ballots or have just been overlooked because of the video game numbers that were being put up, making them look pedestrian by comparison. Berkman, Giles, Abreu come to mind. McGriff got it the worst but got his due. Walker just barely got by

Not even a question…yes.

Yes! This shouldn't even be a question anymore. And it sucks he isn't. Had a hof career before the juice.

Here’s the problem…those PEDs helped keep his bat speed late into his career. Which made his routine fly outs into Bay home runs. He didn’t need the steroids to be a HOF, that’s the Pathetic part. & he refuses to take accountability.

Bonds, Big Mac, Sammy and Palmero all should be in the HOF. Just my opinion. And no this ain’t no social justice post. I’m a 60 year old white man who has been a baseball fan since I was a kid. I got to see Aaron, Mays, Rose, basically everyone from ‘68 on. I agree with these guys, you can’t tell the story of baseball without them.

I played baseball on a very high level in the 90’s and everyone I played with was on steroids college and minor leagues! Baseball scouts and coaches encouraged players to use steroids inadvertently!

Bonds should definitely be put in H.O.F.

You can't hold a player accountable for what the game allowed. For some reason, when it comes to wrestling, I don't really care, but there is supposed to be integrity in professional sports. The whole era is a wash and it's impossible to pick and choose whose achievements are valid. Baseball became wrestling in the sense that it was no longer a professional sport, and it was only a form of entertainment. No integrity, no respect, and without respect, your achievements are only ego-based numbers.

Barry Bonds was a Hall of Famer by the fifth year in the league where he probably was still with the Pittsburgh Pirates. The sheer nature of the controversy itself has ruined the appeal of the game for me. Outside of the times I’ve lived in San Francisco and St. Louis and near Baltimore, where the stadium experience and the job offered free tickets, I’m never going to a game, I’m never following sports media on baseball and MLB further disappears.

Yes, he should. Can’t take his skill sets away regardless what he took. Great player, period!

This is a great idea with two down to earth people great show

What drug test did he fail? Hypocrisy at its best! He’s a HOF’er period !!!

Have the alumni had their vote on Bonds and Clemens yet? They should vote both in.

The Writers should write critical opinion about the league rule legislators, and rule enforcement, not about the players, if they think appearances were invalid

Gentleman, I have seen alot of commentary on this issue over the years, this by far is the best segment there has been, you might as well shut the Hall of Fame down if Bonds is not in it. If all the writers that vote watch this how could you not vote him in. Its simple are his stats valid.. yes. Was he ever suspended by baseball .. no. Thats all you can go by period. The only aspect I think missed in your segment is he was not a media or writers darling , it became personal and not based on his resume. Saw Bonds play live alot and he is the only player that the venders stopped in their tracks to watch him hit, and the sound it made when he did…. Vote him in…. Be well fellas

Steroids or not, Barry Bonds should be in the HOF. How do PED’s help anyone hit a major league pitch in a hand eye coordination game?

He should have his own wing.

Just count Barry Bond's first seven years and he is still a hall of famer so yea he should be in for sure, Pete rose too

Im not emotional like these die hard baseball fans, but from what i watched him and Griffey were the 2 best players of my lifetime and Bonds was above Griffey (and Griffey was my favorite player). I dont care about the steroids i really dont. Fact is, if the hall of fame is a museum, itssupposed to tell the story of the history of baseball. You cant tell that story without Barry Bonds.

Good talk guys, agree with you both 100%. Hopefully they make it right.