Deborah Bräutigam - China in Africa: Think Again 

it never ceases to amaze me how Americans view the rest of the world as theirs in which no other country can make solid relations unless through America.

What would the Americans say if a Chinese does a talk about the US in Africa? What America did in Africa except building military bases and supplying weapons, also support dictators

"If you want to rise out of poverty, you first have to build roads." Chinese proverbs While the West funds NGOs and if that doesn't work goes to war. There you go.

The African people and their govement are able to tell what is good for them.

should we study how did west "helped" africa?

Deborah is an eloquent, fact-base, and elegant speaker! Love your work.

very comprehensive and non-MSM style "china/chinese" lecture. Still great after 6 years and enlightening. A comment on her answer to charity and missionaries. Although missionaries built schools and hospitals, the major different between that and Chinese built schools and hospitals, is that missionaries built for religion, and Chinese build schools for schools, build hospitals for hospitals.

VERY INFORMATIVE. THANKS, MOST CHARMING LADY PROFESSOR. APPRECIATION FROM THE PHILIPPINES.

This was a wonderful lecture and I love the reliance on economic statistical data. There seems to be a disconnect between the American government and the expertise available in our great educational institutions.

What if US in Africa? Is it ok? US wants hegemony. Is ot fair?

There has been a quantum shift in China's stance on the environment and damaging trade in things such as ivory. They have banned both trade and import of the latter and the market price has dropped 70%. Their business practices are much more aligned to UN SDG'S.

What Brautigam said about aid and the (false) good intentions of the west: VERY true. aid doesn't bring development, it brings dependency.

The Chinese probably don't disclose much of their aid amount because they don't want to talk about it. They want others, most probably the recipients to talk about it. They don't want to brag.

not sure but I do believe you because u are fair pls explain fairly for we do not understand

from my obseravtions after watching both the contents and the comments section of hundreds of videos about China, Internet really has created a very divided world, from both pro and anti sides, people are really equally extreme, ranting and bashing anything that disobey their belief. I'm just a college graduate, i deeply know that i'm no where close to be able to speak for anybody or on anything, but i think the least and best i can do is to observe and analyze then i can summarize some characteristics profile that help me better understand netizens from all kinds of social and political backgrounds. I think to understand the world, we can always start from observation.

Even you said Taiwan was China 🇨🇳

China's role in Africa isn't perfect, but they have shamed us in terms of diplomacy.

When zheng ho a chinese eunuch general led an armada the size of which is bigger than that of the european's ships to explore the world. They reached various countries in africa but went there not to colonize but to trade. When they went home to china they brought with them goods traded from the various nations and a giraffe for their emperor. With the powerful fleet he brought along he could have defeated some of those small african tribes and enslaves them and brought some as tribute to the emperor but they didnt as the speaker pointed it out. Now when 1.2million more or less chinese stayed in several african nations bring no arms but their knowledge and money to invest, the westerns accused them of colonizing africa in mind. They should be ashamed and reflect who are the real african colonizers

If we checked all historical documents, and look at the rise and fall of African and Chinese Empires, there has never been a war between the Africans and the Chinese. As a matter of fact, all they were recorded doing was entertainment, business and education.

I agree with marcia

Very good talk.

pls understand

china is keeping cost down through automation

37:18 lol one of my favourite way to win in Civilization 6 - Diplomatic victory! Get into good terms with all those city states :P

Any countries can help Africa too

Salam good evening miss Deborah i am from West Malaysia Harrison's kl i lisnian to your video about China and Africas China invasting very big the American and British and Japan India lost that to me i from Malaysia no very much about the Chinese they were in Malaysia for near 150 years in Malaysia all super market factory's formens shop fisheries department are all control i was working in Singapore Hong Kong Papua New Guinea with the Chinese company in 1984 alamdullila from uncle West Malaysia Harrison's kl

Now end of US and Europeans Era. And start of Asian Era. And would come later African Era.Every dog has a day.

omo six years ago！

nice try, youtube's algorithm, but you will not brainwaishme

Pure Trash

Why Africa refuse our (the West), loan at 10% interest, and take China's loan at 2%. 10% interest is easier to repay than 2%😂😂😂

Go to any prison and you will c those with the Guns R on top and those without R 2 Legged Butt Steaks ..

With so much abundant resources, how did Africa ended so poor after the colonisation by the west and leave them with so much debts and minimum infrastructures ?? Let's settle with that score first before you have the cheek to talk about Asia. Hell will reserve a place for this shameless speaker

Is she beholden to China in any way?

"When the Missionaries arrived, the Africans had the land and the Missionaries had the Bible. They taught us how to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them, they had the land and we had the Bible." - Jomo Kenyatta (1st President of Kenya)

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

god bless Africa and China

At last some one is offering a helping hand to Africa and treats Africa with respect.

I hope china one day can invest in latin America since usa has look down on us but love the resource that they might have

Is is good that your nightmare and criticism has happend now CHINA IN AFRICA ...Yesssss. it is a lot or huge better than AMERICA IN AFRICA, because if that happened, on this time 2018. will see somerhing similar like AMERICA IN IRAQ or AMERICA IN AFGANISTAN.... dont think so??

1. Ever since Chairman Moa's time, China has been helping African countries. At that time, China was not seeking their votes in UN or WTO. They came to make friends first, and then those friends returned China's help with their votes many years later. 2. Today, what China has been doing is to help African countries stand up on their own. They build development projects in exchange for their natural resources, but at fair market value, not by stealing or robbing or colonization. Through trading with China, Africans are getting dignity, which they never had when dealing with the westerners. They get to prosper with their resources, as they should, instead of just reaching their hands out palm up. 3. The westerners do not need to fear that China's influence will rise or call it a "debt trap." I am sure China will welcome wholeheartedly that the westerners help African countries the way they do: help them prosper by creating jobs and building infrastructures, and not interfering nor influencing their politics so they can have a stable society they need to develop.

It might also have been helpful to have highlighted China's diplomatic and materials support to liberation movements against European colonial governments and subsequent military dictatorships that were supported by the US.

What's wrong with moving some of your lower end manufacturing to other countries. Hasn't the US been doing that for decades?

China and Africa forever!

Yes, China has been doing in Africa for a very long time; yet, Africans never complained about this country. I have seen huge structures made by Chinese in Africa: One example: Stadiums in Kigali, Rwanda and Kinshasa, DRC Also, DRC has their "Palais du Peuple" that was built during the Zaire era. Now, let me tell you, I haven't come across such a "honest" intelllectual in a long time. Thank you Madam! I will buy your book. Also, if you have time, please, take a look at " Quand la Chine s'eveillera...le monde tremblera". By Alain Peyrefitte. Paris, 1973. I am pretty sure you already read it! I read it in my high school years. So it seems true that China is rising; it's the " Dragon" is shaking things around!

Since when was America’s decades old imperialistic oppression ever about altruism? Wtf bull**** is that? Lmao

"Africans are also concerned." Did you ask us the Africans? No we are used to competing with others. We've been competing with Europeans since independence, namely the Portuguese, English and Italians. Who do you think were the small traders in our business districts? Hell, we were not even granted permits to set up shops even in the rare instances when an African had the money.

I think everybody here got it wrong. Professor Brautigam was praising China for its smart investment and really helped to lift a lot of Africans out of poverty. She criticized the NGO, the aid from the Western country, while praising China built the infrastructures helping Africa to set up its industry, People! you have to listen well, put on subtitles if you cannot understand.

We WANT China, Russia and even North Korea

For my asian opinion, westerns are mostly misunderstand and underestimate chinese. Western knowledge and paradigm can not be applied with chinese philosophy.

That Once Upon a Time story twist at the beginning was quite a hook. Looking forward to more content about China without all the prejudice and propaganda.

Fairly Detailed presentation (in how she touched on most of the prevailing issues on China’s presence in Africa) on China’s commercial and economic interests in Africa but I disagree totally with her take on corruption and its impact. On the political front, better job could have been done in capturing some of the intricacies and dynamics that often eludes most us who are often sympathetic to a lot of the good economic and commercial work being done by China in Africa and as such allow that bias to get the best of us. One thing most concerning is that at times these loans secured by the wagering of some of these African nations resources, often are lost to corruption or fail to affect the needed change through mismanagement, waste, embezzlement and misappropriation of public funds. This is why I was surprised when she asserted that corruption is not or has not been a problem to Africa’s advancement. It makes one wonder how thorough some of the conclusions made here are. However, some valid and verifiable facts were made.Great job.

why is there critic about china in africa from who is it

How many africans participated in this conference? As an African, I am afraid to know that important issues on the continent have been analyzed by Americans, Europeans and Asians. If I “thought again”, my conclusion would be that all of you are not interested in helping Africa achieve better solutions and results, but in your own interests.

Please allow me to try to explain this from understanding as a Chinese. US has been in dominant position in global economic for so long, that she takes resources, and production from other developing countries. What US is doing is printing currency in order to sustain such position and structure. Any country or economic entity(including European Union) try to challenge it, will receive different kinds of punishments, including starting wars for no-reason, and Hollywood doing the best to beautify it, condemnation based on economics, customs and ideology, for which we didn't talk and focus on for decades. But as a rapidly developing country, China, is able to and probably the only one who's able to bring second choice to the rest of the world, we call it multi-polarism. Based on our tradition and culture as an ancient civilization, we are not interested in taking over the world at all. Please let more people to realize it, stop hegemonism, give every country freedom in choosing their economic development, political structure. Especially give developing countries a chance to break such food-chain economic structure by allowing the existence of second choice.

国内的喷子真应该看看这个视频，看看毛泽东的远见

This speech was uploaded 7 years ago, when there were still sanity left in US.

When listening to this lecture one wonders the openly neglecting the fact that Europe has had colonies and still under colonial influences on all aspects. China coming to the Modern threatening commercial aspect to USA has played very important part was through Kissingers PING-PONG diplomacy. Contemporary History should trustworthy for the White eurocentric colonial mighty might should meet Africans Africa with RESPECT which the Chinese fo

Silly us and european crippled their business in Africa

It is a wonderful speech, just wonderful.👍 But the click, click, and click noises are from the two mics that keep knocking at each other every time when professor Bräutigam moves. The host could have done something about it during such a long, very informative, and very educative speech. 👎

An interesting lecture. Thank you. I'm curious to know what IS the "West's aid architecture"?!

Since Africa is beginning to look 'delicious', I am beginning to wonder if China would be willing to assist Africa when it comes to "IMPROVING AFRICA'S MILITARY" 👍

I Only blame AFRICA leader for not building the living of it Citizens, wake up and free your self from mental slavery AFRICA

More credit? Anytime someone volunteers to give you something and hardly knows you, you should question their motive.

She said very simple things: _ feed _ clothe _ shelter The people .... Not with one man one vote Democracy

Deborah Brautigam's writing is embedded in excellent researched ma terials that penetrated the domination of western colonial imperial control of the economy of Africa. Her inclusion of the cross-cultural East - West cultural practices is evident of the amazing peripheral scope of her books... a must buy for understanding 'Africa's perception of the competition to influence Africa today. 1:02

Fascinating talk. Very informational. Fair evaluation of China's role in Africa rather than fear-mongering. Thank you!

Since the policy of the US doesn't believe in diplomatic engagement with each & single nation in Africa. Dealing only with so called anchor states that mean ignores the sovereignty of the rest nations. China follows the International rules of respecting each and single sovereign country on dealing business while the westerns punishing multiple countries across the continent denying them from integrating the global economic. What do those countries can do other than welcome China? As the conflict in Africa? It's engineers are always the same people.

I absolutely loved the connection with Ming dynasty. I am pro China development but even I had a lot of misunderstanding until I listened to professor Thank you

fuck aid let the people stand on their own feet hard work is the only way

Western missionary the most dangerous lol

Good stuff starting from 47:34. Start from there and you will have a totally different picture of what Deborah is talking about. Very interesting and illuminating stuff.

Appreciate her insightful lecture !

China was emerging from conflict? More like it was emerging from nearly a century of colonization, exploitation and underdevelopment (I'm using that last term as a verb), at the hands of the Western Powers. The fact that this woman reads "Foreign Affairs," tells you all that you need to know about her jumping-off point. Then she talks about Chinese goods flooding markets. Yeah, American companies would rather Africa remain underdeveloped so that American companies could flood African markets with their overproduced goods.

Missionaries have done a wonderful job.........mmmmh

america thinks it owns africa

Somalis ... Somalians is not a word

Everything that is said here is accurate. These are well researched materials. I do admire the lecturer's "intellectual honesty" and her 'fluid' entire analysis towards the China-Africa economic relationship. I see Africa rising soon as some glitches (such as corruption) are eradicated; that may take NGOs and other unnecessary organizations to close, as one of the prerequisites. Thank you Madam!

US help Africa countries improve human right standards so that people there can over throw their government to have better human rights and die in the process to have better human rights.

This informative information is from the very beginning White Eurocentric Colonial Aspects. Don't forget to see China was a colony too. Nearly all so called African States. They were created 1884-1885. This history is not true.

African brothers and sisters ! Don't listen this hypocritical mentors .Africa need defend yourself against old ( Europe .America...) and new ( China ) colonizers. Financial-economic colonialism is more cruel.

in the Cairo conference prior to the end of the second world war, it was a period where it was semi-determinative that Germany has exhausted any potential path to a military victory, at the time, the US promised China the return of Taiwan. Then the US went back on their word, which outraged the Chinese for a while until they realised that the US never really cared and broke their promises all the time. Like the Iran nuclear deal, or the various UN Resolutions regarding Israel, or the Paris Accord. There is really no point to expect America to have honour as they merely used it as a way to get countries to lower their guard.

Africa never needed help but business partners. China you're most welcome for business..pamoja twende mbele🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪

Salam good evening to miss dorah i have learned more from your video about the China in Africa it starts from 1970s and very disappointed about American they rull Africa form 100 over years but the prisiden of the American don't listen to advise from America alamdullila from uncle azlan West Malaysia Harrison's kl

I never finished school but understood her lecture all because I did some research.Thank you.

you don't know that many Chinese workers also work more than 8 hours per day, and 6 days per week! You should see how china is forming its colonies in Laos and Cambodia!!! And in some countries in Africa, the same process is happening!! Many Chinese build their business displacing local business, those Chinese capitalist are happy to develop their business in Africa, because their own country the competition is very hard and they can not survive so they come to Africa where they are able to win the competition with local business. Don't listen only to the opinion of the elite of the governments of Africa, who always praise Chinese capital investment, you should also a listen to the voice of those representing local people. Donl;t forget that chinese capital is also looking for profit!!! China now is no longer socialist, it has become imperialist, plundering third world natural resources...

years ago coming out of south tip of sahara on my bicyles and there were three parallal n-s lines i saw and cound't forget. along the left side of newly paved road there was a transmission line that was under construction. on the other was the oil-pipe line. i knew the road and the transmission line were financed and build by the chinese. 2 years ago a friend in germany told me she went to tanzania to help out an european couple working for a ngo. the couple lived in a fortified house in a village and told her "its dangerous out there and do not go out of the house". so nothing did she.

Except the change white skin you hv failed to change africa, the money you give African presidents it end up in their pocket it leave no tress but China bring money and tell our politicians that we will help you to build something, in which is very good coz if they build hospitals or school, rich or poor families one day will step on that project. I hope you get what I’m trying to say. Money you give to our president, it’s you who see it and president you give , the whole africa benefit nothing at the end, but Beijing bring roads in which many of us we will use it good China God bless China land of game change I wish you many years to come China best frnds to Africa

Either this speaker is clueless about the different ethnic groups in Liberia or she’s intentionally promoting or perpetuating a narrative that started the genocidal killings of the Mandingo or those she called Mandinka at the start of the bloody civil war in Liberia. She needs an education in the peoples of the Mano River basin before colonialism. Liberia was a former American colony, while Sierra Leone was English. Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea and Ivory Coast have their shares of similar ethnic groups that transcend political boundaries drawn by colonial greed.

Americans are only interested in what and where China is doing but has no intetest in else where which need their help. Americans has failed to help his nearest neighbours in his backyard such as Mexico, Venezula, Argentina.. so this will be again China's job to help.

Stop patronizing africans. Leave africans and chinese alone. Mind your own business and Teach yourself

Rubbish/

This is a US propaganda video; very subtly putting down China and glamourising US: 1. While the world is admiring what China's unique win-win approach helping Africa with its infrastructure projects, she pointed out China learnt it from receiving similar aids from Japan; a country beaten and surrendered to the US. 2. She then pointed out China used African countries to get things its way with world organisations, like their votes on WTO. 3. She went on and said the money US gave to Africa are humanitarian aids, unconditional charities; while the money from China are loans.

day no our weak points us africans.huu.africans wake up.europeans i mean.day dont wont as to grow.i no dam.

I believe Miss Broutigam this time; the first time that I came across her talks on China, she made it her main theme to make jokes on China.. I was so surprised when she appeared on Naidoo's "HEAT" just a couple of weeks ago. In her early days she made it her main point that China exaggerates her size and importance of her contributions. Our Chinese people do not try tocourt world admiration, we do what we do for our own benefit. China does not need world admiration. This time around I can say for sure that Miss Broutigam speaks from her own experiences....she is cleansed of thaat annoying American hubris !

From her PHD much better my class A driving license the west they been 70 years in Africa 70 years the same shit Seneca the Chinese come in Africa Africa see a lot of changes that’s the point miss it please can any one Advise her to go back to school and don’t mention you have PHD

How fucking boring! A crap presentation by an uninspiring hag.

Why are you racists jealous you don't like as whatup with you

African Continent do not need any type of intervention from outside.

My parents who were very rich had an ivory Buddha in the hallway of their penthouse in Geneva. It was very old and incredibly beautiful. My mother, who was a Protestant used to sit in front of it for hours in the evening and I asked her what she was doing. She said it was obvious this Buddha had been carved with great love and that sitting in front of it and staring at the Buddhas face gave her a feeling of peace. She was a farm girl born in Yorkshire. 阿弥陀佛