Debunking PragerU Party-Switch Denial and Conservative Propaganda 

“I’m not a flat-earther, I’m not a round earther….” - Candace Owens.

Please compare MAGA Republicans and Trump to the Nazis and Hitler

So funny as I just recently read an article about the wide awakes! I believe it was in the NY times a couple weeks ago. Very fascinating stuff

Are those state ed boards run by member of Moms For (being really against) Liberty?

There was also a strengthening and righteous cancel culture, er, abolition atmosphere.

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Mr Breast give me $1 gazabillion

*beat boxes*

Lol. Even the starting narrator used was 😂

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Or asbestos for building houses

Or Radium water for gastric cancer...

Or that prageru is to education as fox is to news.

And the party switch is a simplistic story that facilitates scapegoating. It allows people to feel good without actually learning anything. I generally disagree with PragerU, but this conversation facilitated by PragerU is important

@@Stevie-J I disagree with this completely the party switch isn’t some simplistic “story” it’s a decades long realignment of the major political parties. From FDR and Truman in the thirties and forties to Dixiecrats to Nixon really. Pragure u brushes most of that stuff aside to sell a narrative, not facilitating discourse.

American Christian nationalism is sunch a weird paradox for both Christianity and USA. For Christian, part of the appeal of it is that any person for any ethnicity can join. in fact one of the first schism/debates was between Jews Christians and non-jewish Christians was if Christianity should spread to more gentiles. For USA, many people including "white" have a mix of many different ethnic groups. I mean there even a strong connection with Latin American both historical and social wise.

I’m suddenly thinking about Mormons for some reason.

@@DiamondKingStudios Ironically, Mormons have been the version of Christianity most RESISTANT to Trump, just in terms of not voting for him and supporting him. Now, that's slipping, and that cap will likely break this year, but it's still worth noting.

​@DiamondKingStudios you're not wrong because that's essentially what Mormonism is. It is Christian Nationalism but with an American exceptionalism twist. Where now their mentality of the US being God's favorite country is "canon" with the Joseph Smith Americana blended with the old testament

Look up Mormon Church

​@@The2012Aceman This would be like saying an abolitionist couldn't be an anti-black racist.

Or that Marx's writings were published in abolitionist newspapers and Lincoln said "Labor is superior to capital, and deserves much the higher consideration"

​@@The2012Aceman so...i think you just really don't understand the term you're using. A different version of your same argument is if CEOs let their employees unionize that obviously capitalism is pro-worker. It's mixing terms and ideas to support what I think you already feel - that people who complain about patriarchy in society are just complaining too much

@@EthanMitch It is just disingenuous. History is filled with Minority Groups setting Policies, Nobility comes straight to mind. So common is this, that one can not crack open a history book to any period without finding clear examples of it, thus it has to be well known to anyone who studies History. We could go into the many different Sociological reasons as to why this is obviously the case, list more examples then just the centuries of Kings, but what is the point if someone is being disingenuous with their very premise?

@@The2012Aceman you're arguing against a point I'm not even making

Who won?

I mean, if you keep in mind that racism is a core Republican value, then it makes sense to say they vote values.

@@aprotosisLMAO fr

Good point. They voted the value that mattered the most.​@@aprotosis

I can tell you who lost…

intentionally so.

To an extent, it's kind of Double think. One moment they'll say they're actually the ideology of freedom, and then another they say that they abide by tradition, not indulging in freedom

He would have maybe turned into a conservative republican after Dallas had he survived (due to massive brain damage)

“In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. And what was terrifying was not that they would kill you for thinking otherwise, but that they might be right. For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable-what then?”

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Heck just look at Civil War Democrats stances and compare them to the parties today. A modern Republican shares more in common with a Civil War Democrat than a Civil War Republican.

Yeah

That's not exactly right either but it's far closer to the truth than the lies Swain and Prager are pushing. The party switch narrative gives Republicans too much credit and

Yep

Teddy Roosevelt would literally be slandered as a radical socialist by Republicans of today. I’ve often wondered how modern Republicans would react to someone quoting Teddy or his policies at them without telling them who it was from.

It is a weird concept of truth not existing, so any lie is excused. The bigger and more brazen the lie, the more they respect you. Kind of the same thing as Putin did when he said that he would not invade Ukraine. And then did a few days later.

They love playing two narratives to everything

“America can’t be racist we’ve changed, but the parties haven’t we are the party who freed the slaves and still are today while the Democrats currently are the party of racists, slave owning, kk*, confederates. Now will you excuse me I have to go to this rally waving my flag of “heritage”, while complaining about whatever group fox tells me to be mad at today.”

I'm not a Republican, but I'm still gonna sing it anyway. "John Brown's body lies a moulderin in the grave, John Brown's lies a moulderin in the grave, John Brown's body lies a moulderin in the grave but his soul goes marching on. Glory glory hallelujah! Glory glory hallelujah! Glory glory hallelujah! His soul goes marching on!"

​@@michaeltheundeadmariachi4494"But his soul goes marching on!"

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@@michaeltheundeadmariachi4494 we all know who’s on the right side of history, and it AINT the ones who DENY the party switch 😂😂 John Brown died to put an end to slavery. Yes he did!

both events occured in Fortnite

Two sentences that are the worst in their contexts

Given the history of Oklahoma, I doubt they want to spell it right in the first place, because they’d have to talk about the Trail of Tears, the Sooners, and Tulsa.

That's the Washington Herald

Having Ryan Walters try to get prageru into my kids classrooms is not comedy gold. Fortunately, Tulsa public schools declined to join in on that

Jeez, im Polish and somehow i know how to spell it. Can't they bother to have someone watch this and catch errors? You know some simple quality assurance? To think they actually show this crap in schools...

@@wolfexer8250 I live in Tulsa, ok and Tulsa Public Schools have not adopted any of this curriculum. They also will not be including the Bible in classroom teaching. If they tried to use these things with my kids, I'll be at the school immediately to strongly voice concern. Sadly, the only districts that will go along with Walter's proto-fascist agenda are in the small towns outside of the cities where the education quality is already abysmal and tainted by both poor funding and an abundance of right wing influence. Our city kids are shielded from that and learn reality instead of small hick town ideology. Btw, Walters is from Ada, which is a tiny shit hole town where meth labs are a stone's throw away in random trailer homes in the woods. It's the kind of place kids can't wait to leave from when they're old enough

I'm gonna go out in a limb here and suggest that the people who demolished the Jackie Robinson statue and destroyed three Emmett Till monuments were not Democrats.

It's not a party switch though. But I don't think so for the same reason as pu. There has always been leaders that took parties into new directions. That has been true for much of American history. A new direction but not a switch.

​@@erica.7231 Yeah, new directions that just happened to cause the parties to switch parts of their ideologies.

"The spirit of Jefferson Davis lives in the Republican Party platform." -Trent Lott James Henry Thornwell's quote about the sides in the Civil War demonstrates that Lott was actually correct for once.

Yeah, way too many Republicans wave around confederate flags for them to be taken seriously when they claim to be the party of Lincoln.

My father listened to Rush, but I never paid attention

Your last paragraph was so accurate and succinct.

He is going to be so surprised when Trump pushes him in the oven

Yeah it's difficult to argue reality with a complete and total idiot.

This is amazing in retrospect since Republicans were bragging about the southern strategy in the 70s and 80s. Harry S. Dent even wrote a book about it; "The Prodigal South Returns to Power."

The thing is which party today has people defending Lee and George Wallace? Which party openly talks about the IQ explicitly as a way to say that black people are inferior and undeserving? Who cares what the party names were during the civil war?

​@miskatonic_alumni not only that but just how simply comparing most political maps that are decades apart starting with the 1860s, particularly with the north and south literally shows that both parties switched their geographic influence. Republicans used to control the northeast but now control the south and vice versa with the Democrats. And conservatives don't see any logical corelation with gradual ideological shifts over 150 years 😂

​@@The2012Aceman hey champ, what the fuck are you talking about?

I remember that, and then when crime went down hard under Biden, they start saying that they didn't FEEL safe.

Love this comment!

It didn't start in 1970. Rightwingers have been undermining public education pretty much since it became a thing. They denounced it as socialism and tried defunding it during the post Civil War white supremacist counter revolution. In many places, they shut down their own kids schools during Massive Resistance rather than accepting the Brown decision. They've also worked to make education about producing pliant workers rather than informed citizens. The tactics change but the undermining has long been a constant.

“Those aren’t actual reps flying rebel flags and swastikas! They’re actors planted there by Dems!” No joke, I’ve actually heard this used with a straight face.

Fr. Pointing out the very obvious facts that the Republican North is now largely Democrat and the Democrat South is now largely Republican is about the most clear cut proof of a party switch without even needing to dive into the complex history of the party switch

I've heard people claim that the Confederate flags carried by the insurrectionists is the clinching proof that the traitors of January 6th were AntiFa, and not donald's supporters. What this proves is that the trumpery have completely forsaken reality.

Oh the freakin’ irony.

@@diogeneslamp8004 Is it even "irony" when it's this blatant...?

That’s some top notch alliteration right there!

My stammer hates you. thbb

PP prattle for short.

even better: just call it pragering

Prager-puke

And somehow even less coherent than my civics homework.

Yeah

THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID 😏

​@@user-bu3nb4ck7s yeah straight to jail 😂

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PragerU on Republicans: "We're the party of Lincoln! The party of abolition! The Democrats are the evil racist Confederate slaveowners!" PragerU on the Confederacy: "The Confederacy was great! Be proud of your heritage! They did nothing wrong!"

I mean considering the american right wing stances on boycotts of israel, protesting in general, burning of the american flag, recreational weed and other banned substances, and many others, I'd argue they don't even like negative freedom. The "freedom" they endorse ends where their donors want it to end. They want everyone to have the freedom to be exactly how the conservatives want them to be.

You don’t find it ironic at all the dems believe they have a right to thing like housing and internet for free(which took peoples work to make for them) while the repubs dont want interference(not fing with them is free and requires no human labor). Cause if u dont i cant actaully explain to u why yalls are wrong.

Lincoln nailed it with his "we all declare for liberty" speech about wolves and sheep following emancipation. But that fill in the blank aspect is exactly why propagandists lean on it (and family values and parental rights and....) so heavily.

Yep. Academia has a left wing bias according to them. Wonder why

You make some good points. It was important, the switch from the Republicans being for a strong Federal government to being states rights.

Also note very carefully - "states rights" for conservatives mean only that if they agree with a subject, like say being anti-abortion, then it's ok. If a state is pro-abortion, I will guarantee that republicans will go all federalist on that state, like what they've been doing now with the abortion issue.

Very, very few people or political parties have been for states rights or a small or large federal government, per se. Reagan certainly didn't. He presided over a growing federal government (by number of employees and budgetarily) that practiced protectionism and other interventions in the "free market". The slave power and other white supremacists also insisted on states' rights when it suited them and strong federal action to negate states' rights, like the Fugitive Slave Act, when that suited them. States' rights is invoked to signal disinterest and a sense of principle. You could pretty much substitute "the Constitution" wherever someone says states' rights without changing their arguments much. Your point about how anamalous it is to have the two parties so clearly being one liberal and one conservative is crucial and part of what makes "the party switch" misleading in its own right, while still being far more accurate than claiming rightwingers opposed slavery and Jim Crow while the Democrats who supported it were liberals. But this fact also means that there was a bipartisan Conservative Coalition that opposed the accommodations that say Eisenhower made to the New Deal. Think Robert Taft, Richard Russell, and the forces that wrested control from the East Coast Republicans to nominate Goldwater and dramatically accelerate the right vs. left realignment we have today.

Yeah, they are... that is how ads work. Still pretty ironic that they show up on videos that are critical of them though

@@queztocoaxial you literally explained my second sentence joke.

@@JonBerry555 Yes, I did, by replying to your comment and describing the amusing situation at hand, but in a way that pointed out, however subtly, that your wording was comical as well (though I ultimately agreed with your sentiment). And when you followed up with the criticism that I merely restated your initial jest, I responded with a meta-commentary that bordered on pedantic, and even though my own joke about your phrasing was overlooked, which stung a little, I assured you wholeheartedly that I meant nothing by it other than I thought the way you parsed your initial comment was humorous, though truthful, and then I never thought about it again. And we parted as friends, wiser and more fulfilled for having experienced even such a small and otherwise seemingly insignificant misunderstanding together, for it enriched our lives in no small measure to be reminded that good people can make mistakes, forgive each other, laugh, and love life, and be enriched by each other's humanity. Godspeed, Jon Berry.

They have been like... so aggressive that it's even more sickening.

@shcdemolisher it's clear the deliberately target those who are not in lock step with them. it's really sickening watching a queer creator and getting a prageru ad.

so true It's why I'm republican now

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Wait, morning coffee aside, I didn't mean racism and the ilk got worse, they are about the same they have been, but by worse, I don't think anybody would have been taken aback by the radio ad now, but that's just the way it works when it's easier to say what you want to say when you want, to whoever you want. Big shift, but coming up I was taught that racism is/was bad, by any stretch. Way back in like 91' my family was forced out of a town in Arkansas because we took in a black truck driver, whose truck stopped working. I don't hang on that memory though, I was 4 turning 5, and that's all faded memories, and what Mom and Dad told me happened, we did get run out of town, I just can confidentially say how it happened beyond what I was told. The food bank lady in Mississippi told my mother to get there early so that we can get the good food before the N words did. The Baptist preacher, or whatever the leader of a Baptist church is called, yeah this was in Arizona, and my parents were looking for food vouchers or vouchers for gas, but we stayed there through their sermon, and went out to smoke cigarettes with him, not me, I wasn't 10 yet, don't remember how old I was, but not 10 yet. They are smoking, and a black family is walking down the other side of the road, outside the church, and the holy man who was just got done doing preacher stuff yells, "Look at them N words!" And no one said a damn thing, I know they had to have heard, it was like he was yelling it across the road at them, but they said and did nothing, and I'm guessing whatever my family wanted to get from the church must have been important because Mom and Dad were also silent. When that ad came on, I was 17 pushing 18 in December, so I missed my chance to vote anyway, but it didn't matter, I couldn't believe a radio ad like that could even come on in the year 2004. Maybe I'm a puss, that hearing that, and knowing it was on a radio station, made me grow up. I was a dairy farmer's son, and honestly you don't, or didn't at the time, meet a lot of not white people in upstate New York. We also moved a lot, this is just 4 of the 18 states we lived in before I was 13, just at that point it seemed to me like some places were bad, but that's just people being jerks, others not so bad. Funny thing about being poor in Mississippi, is that no one is poor if everyone is poor, and that felt good. I found that strange as a kid too, but it was just a southern Ghetto seen through the eyes of a child... Arizona too, but I never learned a lick of Spanish, and the other kids didn't speak any English, for the most part, but tag is tag, and ice cream trucks sell the same ice cream. Aceman, the person on the radio ad was black, or sounded as such, and I feel like, after having nearly 20 years to grow up that the lady from that ad was not supposed to get the fable "Uncle Tom" vote, but make borderline racists feel okay about how they feel, I think late teens and early twenties was the target audience. I have more, but this is already starting to look like a chapter book, but I think it needed to be said, after that. You said the same thing, but this time it was you understanding how stereotypes work, so this long story to let you know, that I know. This was never lost on me, I honestly just didn't think putting that on ad on, anywhere was okay, and it made me think. Hasn't really harmed my life any to see things like this, I still think a lot of these things can be cultural, bound ever so lightly to towns, zip codes, states, background, only that radio ad uprooted those thoughts, it was clearly targeted, and to me more than a bit antagonistic. If you want, I have way more stories like these from my past, when you're poor, and on the road you get to see more life, things you didn't ever want to see, and great things you will never forget, but that was the first time I had ever heard something like that on a radio station, or replayed on TV, but there it was, in all of its glory. Right like that, like hey we are going to mock you, make you sound nappy, and gross, and fake for everyone to hear, and there is nothing you can do about it. That is why after all those years, it stuck with me, and changed me too, I have heard worse, I've seen a lot worse, but it was never out in the open the way that was.

​@@The2012Acemancool story bro👍🏿

Trump regularly claims that people forget that Lincoln was a Republican and kindly reminds them. Like the video, it's simply a linguistic lozenger for rightwinger's uncomfortable with identifying as white supremacists. It's not like the Great Emancipator could have been an avowed white supremacist! Truth qnd understanding history have nothing to do with it.

Same!

What's even funnier is that in one of her books she admitted that there was a southern strategy. She's a clown

Carol Swain has published at least one book accurately describing the Southern Strategy. She also wrote a book about the rising threat of white nationalism. People do sometimes change though and she was let go by Vanderbilt for ranting about "reverse racism" and other rightwing catechisms before she started making the rounds as a grifter beloved by white supremacists. Recognizing the role she is performing in the world is the important part, regardless of what's happening in her head, heart, and bank account.

Yup. By former West Point historian Ty Sedule (sp?). This was before rightwingers fully decided the military had been emasculated by wokeness. The confused and angry comments on that video are glorious.

My God. The Confederate flag in WV looks extremely weird even from Russia where I am xD

West Virginia native here, they know West Virginia became a state because it didn’t want to join the south, we are taught that in state history class, you get taught people in the state where fighting on both sides and it was a “border state”, they don’t teach you why the state formed. And it wasn’t because people at the time opposed slavery because they thought it was morally wrong, they opposed it because they felt keeping slavery legal would hurt them economically and were interested in their “independence”.

@304Kid my understanding was wv didn't depend on slavery like eastern Virginia and wanted to stay with the union because they saw it as a better long-term prospect. So, it was more politically advantageous without the loss of economy. Other border states kept slavery too. Like the war was about slavery but more the expansion of slavery than freeing slaves. But the writing was on the wall. The south knew it.

@@nebulan Yes, it makes perfect sense: mining doesn't require slaves and its products (coal etc) are mostly used by industry, not agriculture. So the secession hurt WV with no benefits. I think the same goes for Eastern Tennessee (it didn't secede from TN but stayed mostly pro-Union): slavery was simply redundant there.

@kristaskrastina2863 well slavery could benefit mining. And the black codes purposefully tried to put blacks in prison to work places including mines. But that's a dark history of post civil war south :(

I find it funny how they criticize DEI and pull the "we have a non white and non male" card alot.

It's insane. So many Republicans, even "moderate" ones now think ANY person of color in power is a "DEI Hire" (unless of course it is one of theirs). It's extremely transparent.

They say "DEI" with a hard "R" on the end.

It’s one of those times where the obvious joke is still good. Pretty big bart has done it a million times and I will probably chuckle a million times more.

@@btarczy5067 I wonder if Dennis’s reaction to it would be similar to when Goebbels found out about the whole “Lambeth Walk” video.

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Lmao that means that prayer u inadvertently funded this video.

Thank you

I don't assign textbooks. You can see what I assign on screen

MLK and Jackie Robinson had it right. Goldwater, while not personally a white supremacist, was leading a campaign to empower white supremacy. Being personally against fires and tirelessly working to eliminate fire departments is complex, I guess. But it also privileges one's ideological fervor over the lives of millions and spectacularly wrongheaded, especially for someone whose entire life was made possible by an interventionist federal government. Lots of dudes are really, really committed to the fantasy that they're rugged, self-made superheroes and everyone else should be, too. He definitely cooked the religious right. Rick Perlstein's Before The Storm is the best treatment of Goldwater's candidacy I've encountered and all of Perlstein's books about movement "conservatism" should be required reading.

Of course, watching the coverage from polling night in ‘68 shows that Wallace was actually hoping to carry the border states (Kentucky, Missouri and Oklahoma). The understanding is that those states were supposed to be his springboard into picking up states in the Middle West. Instead, he lost all three. Additionally, a number of Democratic voters in the Rebel states ended up staying with Vice President Humphrey, enough for him to finish second, for instance, in Georgia (to Wallace) and Florida (to Nixon). That resulted in Nixon carrying as many Rebel states as he did, thereby containing Wallace to his geographical base in the Deep South. It’s frightening to contemplate how, early in the evening, it was Nixon and Wallace going toe-to-toe in the College vote; Vice President Humphrey was seemingly a non-factor nationally during the early hours of the count. It was only when he started carrying the big states of the Northeast and the Middle West and Wallace had been successfully contained to the Rebel states that the national tally shifted to the tight matchup between Humphrey and Nixon. Of course, it must also be remembered that Nixon and Wallace had essentially entered into a “gentlemen’s agreement” to not directly campaign against each other and instead focus their collective ire on the vice president, who was already facing a large degree of lukewarm support from rank-and-file Democrats over the war in Indochina.

I'm not sure that's backfiring. Not all viewpoints are equally legitimate and your teacher gave you what you needed to recognize that. The trouble comes when people insist that true objectivity is refusing to evaluate which viewpoint better conforms to the known facts.

I think I had three over the course of that livestreams

​@@CynicalHistorian😂

I used to make them before my channel got deleted