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Debunking Zodiac Killer theories: Chronicle reporter responds to Reddit questions 

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@theartfuldodger935
@theartfuldodger935 22 дня назад
Stopping suddenly doesn't make a whole lot of sense??? We just caught the Golden State Killer who stopped for 35 years.
@DanielThureskog
@DanielThureskog 20 дней назад
The Long Island Killer was also recently caught.
@kathykline7202
@kathykline7202 18 дней назад
@@DanielThureskog I am going to get attacked but the Zodiac killer was found too. He was found 3 ways. Z340 and Z408 name was there. I got several copies of lady of doom. I thought he had read that. It said right on front page on a reissue edited by Zodiac name. His uncles pulps matched some of the murders. Black Mask. Yearbook. Page 119
@8176morgan
@8176morgan 26 дней назад
I would say that the Zodiac Killer whoever he was has already passed away by now and has probably been gone from this world for quite some time. But is he is still alive he would be 80+ years by now and there is always the slim possibility of a deathbed confession. I'd be amazed if that were to ever happen, for as he would say "why spoil the game"?
@nileswillis7992
@nileswillis7992 20 дней назад
Yeah...dude would truly ruin his legacy. I am sure he took satisfaction that nobody will ever know his identity.
@thecat8905
@thecat8905 14 дней назад
@@8176morgan He died November 12th, 1975.
@christopherlerude4
@christopherlerude4 25 дней назад
This came up in my RU-vid. I’ve always been fascinated by this. By the way I was an actor in Fincher movie and an extra. Both as I was bumped up. Was on those sets about 20 days. Also my family lives in Pacific Heights and I have checked out many of the locations around there: the cab location, the park location where he escaped after walking right by the cops. The reason I started this message is because I remember reading about some guy from Brooklyn who may have killed that girl in South Lake Tahoe and I remember going into that rabbit hole for a few days, a few years ago. On some Zodiac site I remember it said he wasn’t the guy. Best to you!
@christopherlerude4
@christopherlerude4 24 дня назад
P.s. I just spent an hour looking at that Brooklyn guy Kane. He was definitely a bad dude. I think he was a part of the Zodiac “team” or “cult” as it may have been a bunch of people doing things. Kane coming from Brooklyn makes him my number 1. Was married to the #1 hit maker of 1950 (remarkable) she dumped him (makes me think of Bundy, good looking guy rejected by a woman he wanted set him loose.) and he would never have it so good.
@TonyB2279
@TonyB2279 20 дней назад
He doesn't really address the question of whether the crimes themselves could be unrelated. Instead it sounds like he's responding to whether he thinks a journalist at the Chronicle could've been the killer. My theory: Killing people turned out to be too hard, and didn't bring the killer the satisfaction/enjoyment he thought it would. (Two out of his first half-dozen victims survived, after all, and the lady with her baby got away from him as well) So he decided to just keep writing letters taking credit for random crimes. When the cops and media stopped paying attention, he tapered off.
@theycantallbezodiac
@theycantallbezodiac 18 дней назад
@@TonyB2279 we don't know for sure that Johns was Zodiac
@averydaymond1560
@averydaymond1560 18 дней назад
🧐Why did you do it Tony?
@TonyB2279
@TonyB2279 18 дней назад
@@averydaymond1560 I died and was reborn in 1979. I haven't recovered that particular past-life memory yet!
@theycantallbezodiac
@theycantallbezodiac 18 дней назад
@@TonyB2279 I thought you knew the case. Kathleen Johns is the lady who claimed to have been picked up by the Zodiac
@averydaymond1560
@averydaymond1560 17 дней назад
@@TonyB2279 We’ll let it go since it happened before you were born. Ya know I joke and everything but if the real zodiac killer were alive the odds of him being in this comments section are actually realistically possible. He’d probably say something morbid or compliment the killer’s intelligence. But I do believe he’s deceased.
@spinsandneedles
@spinsandneedles 26 дней назад
Thank you Kevin for staying with the case and speaking to these issues as a professional. I always look forward to the next Zodiac article in the Chronicle.
@adamivester9876
@adamivester9876 18 дней назад
This case is actually one of the easiest cases to solve once you understand the simple key to solving it. The Zodiac killer walked away from his last murder, killing a cab driver in the Presidio Heights neighborhood. He was last seen by a police officer named Don Fouke. Zodiac faked him out and misdirected Fouke to go search in no-man's-land. Ok, this gave Zodiac about a 2 minute window to vanish into thin air. Where did he go? Remember that he was walking away from the crime scene. SFPD are swarming towards the scene from all directions. For nearly 40 year's officer Fouke lied and said he last saw Zodiac go down to the Presidio Park. In 2007 he admitted that he actually last saw Zodiac going up the steps of 3---- Jackson Street. The 7 dogs that searched the Presidio Park never picked up a scent. Well no wonder, Fouke finally admitted that he never saw Zodiac going to the Presidio Park. Ok now at this point you don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure out how to solve this crime. Simply start at the address Fouke mentioned 3---- Jackson Street and simply go house to house and "canvas the Presidio Heights neighborhood (research everyone who lived in the area) well guess what, NOBODY ever did. I was the first person to ever "canvas " house to house to house in a systematic & methodical way. Well I knew Zodiac had to get behind closed doors -and fast. So he couldn't have gone too far, remember he's walking. Okay well across the street from the last known sighting of the Zodiac, is a man named John Parr Cox. I have this guy - John Parr Cox on tape discussing how - just like the Zodiac killer - he too would walk up to kids in parked cars with his gun, and they would think he was a police officer. Well the Zodiac killer walked up to kids in parked cars with his gun and they thought he was a police officer - the exact same M.O. Also John Parr Cox's handwriting is identical to the Zodiac killers. He even was at the intersection of Mason and Geary the very night Zodiac was picked up there. I have tons more information and evidence. You can go to my RU-vid channel Real Zodiac Killer Revealed for more information , just click my profile pic 👍
@theycantallbezodiac
@theycantallbezodiac 18 дней назад
@@adamivester9876 another nonsensical ramble, I'm surprised your still spouting this rubbish.
@kathykline7202
@kathykline7202 18 дней назад
That was honestly him Adam. The Zodiac killer. I heard they questioned him anyway, and let him go. When Cheri was first killed someone did turn him in. He was brought in for questioning and they gave him a handwriting test. He aced it, but then again he writes two ways. When i first found him, his name was in the FBI archives as a potential suspect. The FBI removed that page when they finally listened and knew he wasnt cleared. They did listen later that day. . he got away from them not once, but TWO TIMES. i KID YOU NOT. His police reports probably still exist, but not the page in the FBI archives. I did a little test. I posted his picture in a zodiac site yesterday. NOT ONE PERSON KNEW WHO HE WAS. Toschi thought he was "too clean cut". LOL I dont know what is wrong with this world. The case and so called ciphers couldnt be any easier than what they were. The "ciphers" were only language translations. They were all done within an hour. Really, I kind of feel sorry for the cops but when I think of what he did I get angry that they didnt get him the first time. I have pictures of him. There was a third time. I have subscribed to your channel. You have common sense to know when the police do not. The so called ciphers are solved this way" --- you are going to laugh. No one even tries but this is honestly how they are solved. Put it in google translator and press enter !!! ha, ha,ha, This works. Make sure you get all special characters though. Line 6-20 contains the most clues ever! They told you more of the same ? Nope, not true, and it isnt meant to be solved in sections either. Line 5 will say "I am leaving you people with ......" It takes just 3 minutes for Z13 and Z32 but no one wants to waste their 3 minutes. It actually works, I was surprised also. But its no surprise he is a liar. We found him 4 ways Adam, got the same name each time and I wasnt the other one working on it.
@sclogse1
@sclogse1 26 дней назад
My father, a GS 11 at the Presidio was given Zodiac stuff to decode. He worked on it at home while the TV was showing ball games. He worked communications at Headquarters for his second twenty years, having retired active duty in the late 1970's. Born in 1907.
@SpicyTexan64
@SpicyTexan64 23 дня назад
So he wasted a lot of time for nothing
@Leonardo-tm8eu
@Leonardo-tm8eu 22 дня назад
​@@kathykline7202who are you talking about
@kathykline7202
@kathykline7202 22 дня назад
The zodiac ciphers are super easy to solve. Get a file that allows special characters to go in google translator, drag and drop the word phrase or line. Let translator detect language, press enter. The answer is on right and it will be automatically correct. They aent ciphers, he could not do that. Yep, that is all there is to the translations. you dont decipher anything. It takes about an hour to do them all. I turned in mine and they sent me Don Olsens address for approval. They were approved. His name was in Z340 and Z408. Did he know Chester? He was working there in 70's for 3 L. He worked with radar. He was an advanced weaponry specialist. Only 4 lines of Z340 were done, you will need to do those lines over because they are incorrect, then lines 5-20 has never been seen by the public. It is Zodiacs personal information. Remember Red Drawer, thats where the killing stuff was, and you will know then I solved them. Law enforcement has them. If you dont want to solve, send to an arabic translation company. Z was fluent in 3 languages.
@Venmaylove
@Venmaylove 22 дня назад
U wot m8 ​@@kathykline7202
@Leonardo-tm8eu
@Leonardo-tm8eu 22 дня назад
@@kathykline7202 what your suspect name?
@johnfontenot7861
@johnfontenot7861 18 дней назад
Is the woman who was taken for a ride by supposed zodiac still alive? If so show her pics of the suspects to see if she recognizes anyone, was this ever done? If not why not?
@calicoasting
@calicoasting День назад
That first letter would be a great movie
@jamessherosick2747
@jamessherosick2747 26 дней назад
The Zodiac killer was D.B. Cooper, that is why it has been so hard to solve.
@Redondo-ex6oh
@Redondo-ex6oh 25 дней назад
I have a theory about D. B. Cooper. The reason it’s been so hard to find evidence on him is 1. He never existed and 2. No one ever jumped out of the plane .. The only thing better than having a bomb and high-jacking a plane for ransom and then jumping out of it - is to make people believe that is what happened..
@thecat8905
@thecat8905 19 дней назад
@@jamessherosick2747 no no no
@jamessherosick2747
@jamessherosick2747 19 дней назад
@@thecat8905 help me make sense of it. I was 10 years old and and there has been a zillion theories, this is the first one to make my brain stop leaking fluid.
@yoda9518
@yoda9518 19 дней назад
There is some guy at work who doesnt flush. He is only known as D.B. Pooper.
@NUKEHOAX2024OFFICIAL
@NUKEHOAX2024OFFICIAL 17 дней назад
@@jamessherosick2747 start by reading only the known FACTS. Refer to ballistics, crime scene data and logic
@jackduncan5311
@jackduncan5311 18 дней назад
My personal theory is that of the top 3 FBI suspects, all of them committed at least one of the murders. Claiming credit for kills he didnt do fits the psychologist profile as the FBI BSU profile says that the main factor was "proving his intellectual superiority to compinsate for an inferiority complex" I think Laurence Kane, Aurthur Lee and Jack Tarrance are all likley to hage commited one of the murders at least. For me the question is how the kills are divided between these suspecys
@NUKEHOAX2024OFFICIAL
@NUKEHOAX2024OFFICIAL 22 дня назад
Reddit is garbage for anything about Zodiac
@kathykline7202
@kathykline7202 22 дня назад
Reddit is just plain garbage. Plesse let me tell you what i found by accident. I hit the wrong keys one day before I left. They have your internal id number. Someway they are capturing your emails. What they had on me, was everything zodiac captured and sorted in alphabetical order. I did ask Edward Snowden on Twitter about it, and he told me always stay away from Reddit. Maybe because it is all chrome, I dont know how they did it. Dont trust Reddit.
@MegaAppl3
@MegaAppl3 27 дней назад
Great video. Very fascinating case.
@aguy559
@aguy559 21 день назад
I wonder why Richard Gaikowski isn’t on more people’s suspect list.
@LouGuise
@LouGuise 26 дней назад
I really think he told everyone his name .. several times. “Guess”
@BananaKatana123
@BananaKatana123 13 дней назад
I really find the people that keep trying to link all the murders of serial killers to just one person or group annoying. No, the Manson family isn't responsible for every unsolved thrill-seeking murder in California in the late 60's and 70's. Whoever the Zodiac is/was, you probably haven't heard of him before unless it's one of the main suspects the FBI were following back during the time these crimes occurred. He was definitely a loner in his 30's or 40's, and he probably wasn't in the best of shape. I assume he was of above average intelligence but never really did anything meaningful with his life. Probably drank a lot and was extremely resentful of young couples since there is a good chance he wasn't in any long-term relationship or had much romantic success himself. The anger was focused primarily on the women; I don't think it's just that they made easier targets, I think he was resentful he couldn't find a date of his own so these murders were a way of 'taking back power' from those who have denied him in the past and who he probably blamed for lowering his sense of self-worth. He was also probably for the most part estranged from his family apart from some holiday get-together's perhaps, and probably didn't have many friends at work. Arthur Leigh Allen, in terms of physical and character description still seems like the closest guy to match the profile of the Zodiac. He was a semi-criminal, semi-recluse social deviant that lived in his mothers basement until he moved out into a trailer park. He died of a heart attack in 1991 and I feel even if he wasn't the Zodiac, then whomever was probably shared a similar fate dying in their 50's or 60's after a life of loneliness and excessive drinking, eating and smoking.
@BalOutGolf
@BalOutGolf 21 день назад
⁠ Here is as much as I will say without being prejudice to my own work. Oranchak’s mathematical guy said he found a pattern that picked lines or letters at a skip of 1/2 2/3 3/4 etc. Which means he extracted an embedded code at best. The Zodiac did have multiple levels of coding, so that is possible. If in fact that extracted code was truly a substitution transposed cipher and by some means Oranchak found the ‘key’ - He did not, repeat did not solve the z340 cipher. The z340 cipher is a plain text cipher in English, with truncated words, abbreviations, anagrams, acronyms and Morse code, that code in all directions with each line depending on the intersecting lines to complete the phrases and the complete message. It is not a substitution with a ‘key’ and the few characters that are transposed as to position are ‘reversed’ to indicate a position replacement or other characters direct the reader to the application direction , so as to not transpose characters. His solution adds absolutely nothing on the planet earth to the case. So in the end it’s irrelevant.. Lastly, a code or cryptology is what the code maker wants it to be - what ‘error’ did you find and where did you get a direction to randomly remove text to complete the result that just seems to appeal to you versus having that ‘rightness’ you feel when decoding is done accurately? To me it’s an- invalid result, and forced.. Steven
@Redondo-ex6oh
@Redondo-ex6oh 17 дней назад
For those responding to my comments or in general : Kevin is a friend of mine.. He does listen and he was the first person to recognize that we had something very different.. His story that he ran about David Oranchak cracking the z340 was due to reliance on ‘Cameron Polin’ the PR person for the San Francisco division of the FBI, who for some reason thought it would be good to ‘plant’ a false story about the z340 being cracked and David Oranchak’s 15 year deep desire to be famous and significant in the zodiac case allowed him to be the perfect patsy .. Kevin - is restricted by his editors and management and they have the ‘truth’ from us about the case, but due to real people with real motives and real opportunities and who have self-identified in the actual cracked ciphers and codes, he is not allowed permission to publish that information unless the police ‘officially’ name them as suspects .. Steven
@14Cinnamongirl
@14Cinnamongirl 3 дня назад
Maybe a death bed confession one day
@johnsilva-henebry5819
@johnsilva-henebry5819 27 дней назад
Based upon the 2007 Zodiac movie: I think the Zodiac was possibly two people. One who wrote the letters (left handed as a right handed person ambidextrously), and another who was a murderer. I think that is why the suspect's hand writing never match the Zodiac's hand writing. And the Zodiac's murders were possibly two people wanting to try to outsmart the judicial system, and wanting to hurt other people. I hope this can help in some way. I think the people who focus on the Zodiac (except Police Officials) relish in the darkness with life stupidly. I hope for justice for those who where affected. And I hope we go on too with life.
@EdEdwardsCiphers
@EdEdwardsCiphers 27 дней назад
You don't say? Tell me more.
@michwashington
@michwashington 27 дней назад
I believe it was 3 people, The cab 🚕 driver in San Francisco was just a fluke and random killer , but the zodiac killer took credit for it.
@RobertBurke-tq9zu
@RobertBurke-tq9zu 26 дней назад
​@michwashington How could that be? He sent a piece of the cab driver's bloody shirt with a letter, and the handwriting matched the previous letters.
@michwashington
@michwashington 26 дней назад
@@RobertBurke-tq9zu If that be true , then I stand corrected. But I think because he broke the pattern with Paul Stine , I think it was a different guy parading as the Zodiac, plus the zodiac took credit for other people’s crimes because of the attention.
@JR-sq2of
@JR-sq2of 26 дней назад
​@@EdEdwardsCiphers OMG 😳, That's exactly what the Zodiac Killer would write! Keep him engaged and maybe you can get a confession. Good work @EdEdwardCiphers!!
@emanueleambrosio7551
@emanueleambrosio7551 6 дней назад
Actually we got a confession. Zodiac=Moster of Florence may be: Amicone's suspect was Joseph aka Giuseppe Bevilacqua (Totowa, United States, 20 December 1935 - Sesto Fiorentino, Italy, 23 December 2022) a former ABMC superintendent at the Florence American Cemetery in Italy, who testified to the Pacciani Trial.. What do you think?
@Redondo-ex6oh
@Redondo-ex6oh 26 дней назад
Here is my question: Don’t newspapers offer retractions when the information they print is subsequently proven inaccurate? Secondly, the Unibomber case went unsolved for over 20 yrs with Law Enforcement’s best trying to stop and active killer, but the case was not solved by law enforcement was it? The answer, it was solved by his brother’s wife who recognized the handwriting and the themes.. So, in conclusion- yes many thoughts and theories on Reddit are false.. 98% are pure speculation based on nothing .. But the Los Angeles investigation is based on the words, images, and code of the letters, envelopes .. which has gone directly to real people .. Finally, the z340 has not been solved by David Oranchak .. The FBI did not solve the unibomber case - so how can you say they are the final word? A fellow who actually knows the truth.. Charlie & Ellen & Albert Lee Terry, Jr.
@zzodysseuszz
@zzodysseuszz 23 дня назад
It wasn’t his brothers wife, it was his brother recognising his handwriting.
@kathykline7202
@kathykline7202 20 дней назад
YOU ARE RIGHT REDONDO, DAVID DIDNT SOLVE. THE 4 LINES HE DID HAVE A MISSING WORD "ABROAD" WHICH IS WHERE HE WENT AND THAT WORD ALSO MISSED. Lines 5-20 contain all clues about himself, who he hates, and is a little rant about green energy. All you do to solve is put in google translator with the special char. It always was that easy and it was even easier to find him and his accomplice. I gave his name and cipher solves to all of LE there and the FBI and DOJ. I got calls or letters back. They were nice enough to tell me the end of the story. But they got a confession. Its on tape. A woman who knows truth too. Dont bother giving that to Kevin, he believes nothing not even the truth. The name is english in Z340 and Z408.
@Redondo-ex6oh
@Redondo-ex6oh 17 дней назад
Kevin is a friend of mine.. He does listen and he was the first person to recognize that we had something very different.. His story that he ran about David Oranchak cracking the z340 was due to reliance on ‘Cameron Polin’ the PR person for the San Francisco division of the FBI, who for some reason thought it would be good to ‘plant’ a false story about the z340 being cracked and David Oranchak’s 15 year deep desire to be famous and significant in the zodiac case allowed him to be the perfect patsy .. Kevin - is restricted by his editors and management and they have the ‘truth’ from us about the case, but due to real people with real motives and real opportunities and who have self-identified in the actual cracked ciphers and codes, he is not allowed permission to publish that information unless the police ‘officially’ name them as suspects .. Steven
@aleksoctop
@aleksoctop 26 дней назад
Was it true that Arthur Lee Allen lived very close to the house of pancakes where Darlene worked? Or is that ruled out for some reason?
@MiMiiViVi
@MiMiiViVi 26 дней назад
Ruled out. Also DNA didn't match.
@theycantallbezodiac
@theycantallbezodiac 25 дней назад
​@@MiMiiViVithere is no Zodiac DNA
@theycantallbezodiac
@theycantallbezodiac 22 дня назад
@@kathykline7202 I'm not Tom, but you are odd
@kathykline7202
@kathykline7202 21 день назад
@@theycantallbezodiac aND YOU ARE WEIRD.
@curtisrobinson7962
@curtisrobinson7962 21 день назад
"The closest police have to Zodiac’s DNA are the stamps he used to post his cryptic letters. In the early 2000s, San Francisco investigators developed a partial profile by testing saliva traces retrieved from beneath a stamp. Because the profile is incomplete, it cannot rule anyone in. But it did rule out long-time suspect Arthur Leigh Allen in 2002."
@omidbaramaki7691
@omidbaramaki7691 21 день назад
This mystery didnt solve ever
@curtisrobinson7962
@curtisrobinson7962 21 день назад
Didn't ever solve this mystery
@James-zx1qy
@James-zx1qy 16 дней назад
It's none of the known suspects which is why the case has gone nowhere in 50 years. It will never ever be solved.
@brockgrace7470
@brockgrace7470 11 дней назад
But...they don't just stop.They can't. He,or her,dead or in prison.Gotta be.
@mrplow8
@mrplow8 22 дня назад
I still think it’s Ted Cruz.
@aguy559
@aguy559 21 день назад
Drew Carey.
@thecat8905
@thecat8905 19 дней назад
@@mrplow8 you’re high !!
@mrplow8
@mrplow8 19 дней назад
@@thecat8905 That’s inappropriate. A lot of people’s lives are destroyed by drugs. You shouldn’t joke about such a serious subject.
@thecat8905
@thecat8905 19 дней назад
He would have been like 6 or 7 years old Genius!
@thecat8905
@thecat8905 19 дней назад
@@mrplow8…lol..Look who’s talking bone -head …!!! …hahaha 😂😂😂
@simonmaguire5250
@simonmaguire5250 20 дней назад
I'm Brit and we joke about everything.
@detroitpolak9904
@detroitpolak9904 26 дней назад
Excellent video, sir! I agree with getting the info out there. Kaczynski is a perfect example (and being Polish-American as well, we don’t claim him) but I’ve heard people seriously criticize True Crime podcasts, CrimeCon, etc but I see them as modern day America’s Most Wanted, Unsolved Mysteries, among others. If it wasn’t for Most Wanted, John List would have never come to justice. 25 years later, and 2,000 miles from where it took place. When it comes to newspapers printing thing at the request of the killer, they can only give themselves away. BTK was foiled by new technology he didn’t thoroughly understand. If you guys print his stuff, he’ll probably continue making contact, and at some point he’ll slip up. Not just Zodiac, but any criminal. I think the good you make possible far outweighs any bad.
@kathykline7202
@kathykline7202 20 дней назад
I found his name, it was in Z340 and Z408, it has been gived to the FBI and editor of SF chronicle with proof. HE WAS THE FIRST TEEN SERIAL KILLER. DNA was a match. Kevin doesnt listen, so I had to send to someone else there. The ciphers were never ciphers, Zodiac was multi lingual. Those are all different versions of arabic in an english like form you dont see much. Now pop the whole thing in google translator, press enter. It was just that easy. The most clues you are going to find is in Z340 lines 5-20, do those 4 lines over to correct those. He told you he was going abread and that was missed. It is right. All of it including identity. LE will not tell you at this time. There may be two vics more, and the number 5 is not correct, it is higher than that. It only took 50 years and they had him twice and let him go. There is someone else as well, and before your critisim solve one of them. You will know I am telling the truth, I DARE YOU TO DEBUNK KEVIN FAGAN, BECAUSE YOU CANT.
@averydaymond1560
@averydaymond1560 18 дней назад
Lol! This guy? WTH? Three times he said “I don’t know” to questions he posted. He’s a fake news reporter who’s done nothing with this. He literally offered less than nothing new or interesting. He’s a dummy and a bore.
@thecat8905
@thecat8905 26 дней назад
Debunk mine … Seriously ! You won’t be able to . I am the hidden Daughter of Darlene Ferrin . She got involved with a Merchant Marine Captain . I am her first Daughter before Deana. I am the spitting image of Darlene. I know the story . One more thing … I didn’t know this until 5 years ago . Spun my world a complete 360’/180…whatever …! I am very very serious !
@jamessherosick2747
@jamessherosick2747 19 дней назад
@@thecat8905 Darlene was a cat?
@thecat8905
@thecat8905 19 дней назад
@@jamessherosick2747 ….hahahaha… you so funny chump! Not - -
@jamessherosick2747
@jamessherosick2747 19 дней назад
@@thecat8905 just being silly, in an otherwise very serious topic. Please take no offense.
@thecat8905
@thecat8905 19 дней назад
@@jamessherosick2747 Meow…
@kathykline7202
@kathykline7202 18 дней назад
You have my condolences Cat. I am so sorry that this happened to your mom.
@patrickmccarron5059
@patrickmccarron5059 13 дней назад
Real Zodiac, wherever he is, will still have a piece of the cab driver's shirt and probably the black hood he used at the lake attack.
@Geistlos0
@Geistlos0 11 дней назад
Good point. But I don´t think so. Because the Zodiac killer seemed not to collect trophies.
@kevinhensley4643
@kevinhensley4643 24 дня назад
Interesting video, love it. Thank you for sharing....but serial killers do stop cold turkey, in my opinion. BTK did it, and so did the Golden State killer. They might not have stopped taunting, but they didn't have any further killings.
@zenvagabond
@zenvagabond 21 день назад
There never was a Zodiac killer.
@WhocaresWhy44
@WhocaresWhy44 27 дней назад
This reporter is ready to do some C W Nevius type stories.
@djjrfromred
@djjrfromred 27 дней назад
Don’t get upset over what people think or said
@deathbystereo-
@deathbystereo- 23 дня назад
always laugh at people who get but hurt by someone's opinion of something
@henrywallacesghost5883
@henrywallacesghost5883 26 дней назад
We all know the Zodiac was Ted Cruz😂
@ficationsare6552
@ficationsare6552 4 дня назад
This guy has way too much neiveity for those in his own profession. Psychopaths flock to journalism.
@nileswillis7992
@nileswillis7992 20 дней назад
He likely continued killing. Just didn't yap about it.
@jackib8589
@jackib8589 19 дней назад
I believe the zodiac was BTK. Has anyone interviewed him about that.?
@petrcejka2125
@petrcejka2125 18 дней назад
There are similarities between Zodiac and BTK, but motive is different. Zodiac´s murders are not driven by obvious sexual deviation as in case of BTK and also his m.o was very different. Plus AFAIK BTK was confirmed to be somewhere else (at the time of murders I think he was in army), than where Zodiac crimes were commited.
@petrcejka2125
@petrcejka2125 18 дней назад
By the way, from known serial killers who really were active in SF area at that period, I always thought Traillside Killer was fairly good suspect for Zodiac (despite the fact that his motive was also sexual deviation, which is not the case of Zodiac) - he actually was suspect for Zodiac, but he was in jail at the time of first December murder.
@K862-l2l
@K862-l2l 25 дней назад
Hi Kevin. I reached out to you several years ago on a candidate. I have continued to research him and I can tell you with absolute certainty that he checks every box on the Zodiac crimes. There is no angle from which he does not answer. IF there is ever the possibility of a sleuth coming along and presenting a legitimate case for who the Zodiac Killer is, this has to be the one. I should have been able to rule him out. There is a wealth of material available on this individual. It should have been easy to rule him out. Yet nothing has been found that enables me to do so. When I spoke with you, you rejected this individual as a potential suspect out of hand though you said you could be wrong. This is not a criticism because I fully appreciate your position here and it was a logical response on your part. So he remains, not only a viable and compelling candidate, but an absolute gold standard prototype for who the Zodiac Killer was.
@theycantallbezodiac
@theycantallbezodiac 25 дней назад
Name your suspect then
@K862-l2l
@K862-l2l 25 дней назад
@@theycantallbezodiac I understand the why of your challenge but there is no point to engaging in a tit for tat here on this topic. It is juvenile and unproductive and will not affect or effect anything of value. This perspective comes from several years of experience in this matter. Absolutely no offense intended. I do really like your user name BTW.
@theycantallbezodiac
@theycantallbezodiac 25 дней назад
@@K862-l2l every week people come forward claiming theyve solved the case or have the perfect suspect but can't back it up. I challenge you to provide details that your suspect is Zodiac. It's not tit for tat, I'm asking you to show the evidence to back up what is just another silly claim. I also have been interested in the Zodiac for several years.
@Redondo-ex6oh
@Redondo-ex6oh 25 дней назад
I don’t believe you ever talked to Kevin .. period ! And if your information is based on the Presidio Heights suspect sketch - you may be right about who killed Paul Stine, but you have no clue who the Zodiac is .. there were two men in and out of that cab on that street that night .. One was the Zodiac - who arrived from downtown and the other was the killer of Paul Stine who hailed the cab a block later and shot the man in the back of the head .. and fled
@kathykline7202
@kathykline7202 24 дня назад
@@K862-l2l You replied to Tom Voight and he is playing a game with you. He already knows his name from hacking my email.
@thecat8905
@thecat8905 19 дней назад
I sent you an email .
@Redondo-ex6oh
@Redondo-ex6oh 26 дней назад
I wish you would listen to your own words.. Real people died!! Real families are in anguish.. and they deserve the ‘truth’ - no one on the planet creates one of the most unique ciphers in history to just say - I like killing .. If you are sincere in your thoughts about the family - why won’t you engage with the very person you personally reached out to from an unsolicited email - of which came in with the thousands of leads you say you get a day!! It’s easier to be a great reporter if you use your skepticism to investigate vs. saying the FBI is the final word .. My dear friend .. and you know I got nothing but love for you .. but you were tricked and being used.. but I have your back - because you are a good man and you recognized our work - ‘what was your quote on the phone’? Oh I remember - you said in 30 years you had never seen anything like what we sent you and that’s why you reached out” Follow that instinct and forget about Oranchak- he knows nothing .. nice guy but has nothing to contribute- maybe they used him also.. it doesn’t matter .. The families do deserve answers and there are answers
@kathykline7202
@kathykline7202 20 дней назад
Thats why I solved them. I heard Cheris dad collapsed, I wonder how many others. Found his name. Gave to LE, DOJ and FBI. It was him. But there were no other victims in those so called ciphers, (those are other languages too) I will tell you his name and send pics if you like. Its him all right, dna and confession, no one knows till now.
@CutterDriftwood
@CutterDriftwood 23 дня назад
This was posted 4 days ago and he's supposed to be the "zodiac guy" but he doesn't know that ALL of the messages have been solved now and have been for probably a few years?😂 Typical fake news, arrogant about how little they know.
@NUKEHOAX2024OFFICIAL
@NUKEHOAX2024OFFICIAL 22 дня назад
The irony… The Z13 and Z32 are UNSOLVED. The Z13 essentially CANNOT be solved because it’s too short to verify a solution
@kathykline7202
@kathykline7202 22 дня назад
@@NUKEHOAX2024OFFICIAL They are solved. Z13 says glasses male me, now manipulate the langugae and break it again. it now says put P over A and C over N? I think thats it. Make the changes Zodiac told you, and do it again. this time you will get XXXXXXXZ13, the X's you get to solve. Z32 says Solar, Enkman, Emperor of Japan. Z13 is HIndii and Z32 is Telugu. These were broken and have been approved. YOU TRANSLATE THEM ALL, YOU DO NOT DECIPHER A THING. z COULDNT CIPHER. You do the same with all the others, and they should take you about an hour, not even 16 or 26 years like some people.
@kathykline7202
@kathykline7202 21 день назад
@@NUKEHOAX2024OFFICIAL Z13 is Hindi and it says glasses male me, you get a file that allows you to copy special char, you put that in google translator, and you press enter, the answer is on right. Z32 is Telugu, it is Solar, enkman and emperor of japan, not a single one of those are ciphers, they are all other languages, and if you do not believe it, send them to an arabic translation co, he can speak 3 languages fluently.
@kathykline7202
@kathykline7202 18 дней назад
@@NUKEHOAX2024OFFICIAL They were solved. You can solve them easily too. They are Hindii and Telugu. No they cant be solved as a cipher, because thats not what they are, they are other languages, an obsolete form.
@NUKEHOAX2024OFFICIAL
@NUKEHOAX2024OFFICIAL 18 дней назад
@@kathykline7202 PROVE IT
@65if2007
@65if2007 21 день назад
Jack the Ripper DID leave behind a diary.
@Bigwave2003
@Bigwave2003 21 день назад
That was a hoax.
@65if2007
@65if2007 21 день назад
@@Bigwave2003 No, that was the diary of Jack the Ripper.
@buckodonnghaile4309
@buckodonnghaile4309 21 день назад
Love Courtney.
@petrcejka2125
@petrcejka2125 18 дней назад
1.) I am actually quite optimistic and I think that Zodiac case will be solved in next 10 - 15 years..... and AI will probably help too. 2.) I have no idea who Zodiac killer was, but I think that police and armed forces should search in their archives from 50s or early 60s. Zodiac clearly had something to do with armed forces (regarding recent rumours - I do NOT think it was Hoffman) and it was someone who failed to join armed forces or was fired / left with shame..... I actually think that we never really found real motive for murders yet - but I suppose it was some sort of revenge - I´ll make fools from you. 3.) My suggestion.... Letters, ciphers.... get rid off it and investigate it like if they never existed. Dont search for a clue which never existed. They are false lead, probably "made up" to create false direction of investigation. They say actually nothing relevant about killer.... "collecting slaves for afterlife"? Give me a break..... No. I would suggest one more idea. I always thought that Zodiac killer was "fictional" character created by serial killer who murdered before and after Zodiac murders, BUT he created this false almost "comics identity" because for some reason, he needed to "hide" his true identity behind this crazy character. I mean.... there was personal connection with one of those victims and he used this "alter-ego" to cover it.... By the way, by serial killer who murdered before and after Zodiac, I dont mean like 20 victims combined with Zodiac, I mean like 8- 10 including Zodiac´s ones.
@kathykline7202
@kathykline7202 18 дней назад
He did he did, what he was copying was his uncles pulp murders, he wrote mostly for Black ace, and Black Mask and he worked for Stan Lee also, he was an editor for one reissue of Lady of Doom. Great insight. Yes it was revenge. It may be this year it is solved, its real real close. Those ciphers are actually obsecure languages. Translator will tell you the answers or an arabic translation co. You will know his name by Z340 and Z408. Its right there.
@jere.nurkka
@jere.nurkka 18 дней назад
I always got the same idea that that collecting slaves was just bs. I'm not sure why he talked about it but I have NEVER believed he actually believes that. About that personal connection part with one of the victims I don't think so but it's totally possible. That would also explain why he seemingly stopped but there are countless other possible reason for that I think it's importart to remember that intially police investigated the crimes just like any homicides by trying to figure out who would want to kill those teens. That's how you find suspicious people etc who had nothing to do with the killing. The idea that Zodiac knew one of the victims does deserve some more investigating but at this point I don't believe so. Military connection of some type seems very possible. Letters should be looked gor physical evidence like DNA and they have at least palm print from one of them. I also believe Zodiac was clever enough to create false leads in his letters so everything he says should be taken with grain of salt however I do think he might have slipped something about himself for example when he mentioned having basement in one of those letters. Even that could be intentional false clue but one thing Z340 solution proved Zodiac does sometimes give hints. He used almost identical wording in his later letters the frase "I hope you are having" and the fact he used diaconal writing on envelopes including the one Z340 was sent in. So I wonder if he give some other real hints aswell.
@petrcejka2125
@petrcejka2125 18 дней назад
@@kathykline7202 Maybe I am wrong, but.... I assume ZK never revealed his identity in his letters or ciphers.... But... who knows, BTK actually revealed his identity in one of ciphers sent to press (he actually gave up his address..... but it was discovered AFTER he was caught!).
@kathykline7202
@kathykline7202 17 дней назад
@@petrcejka2125 He did though.
@Scorp308
@Scorp308 21 день назад
Yes, it is Ted Cruz!
@blazbratovic2724
@blazbratovic2724 27 дней назад
Jack the Ripper was Charles Allen Lechmere (the guy who was found at the scene of Polly Nichols murder). QC James Scobie says the case against him is strong enough for a modern murder trial. Never give up, I guess.
@theycantallbezodiac
@theycantallbezodiac 25 дней назад
Thats not a fact
@zzodysseuszz
@zzodysseuszz 23 дня назад
Actually dna from semen proved the Jack the Ripper cases were actually by several different people all unrelated and most of them were immigrants who would go on to leave the country. Not surprising considering some of them were Indian and they don’t seem to have much respect for women even today, some throwing acid in faces of girls who reject them
@blazbratovic2724
@blazbratovic2724 23 дня назад
What is a fact? I am sure you have heard the phrase "beyond reasonable doubt", if you are commenting here, right? :) But you cannot compare legal terms with mathematical proofs.
@theycantallbezodiac
@theycantallbezodiac 23 дня назад
@@blazbratovic2724 you're stating as a fact that Lechmere is the Ripper.
@blazbratovic2724
@blazbratovic2724 23 дня назад
@@theycantallbezodiac And I am asking you what do you consider as a fact.
@michellesaylor3880
@michellesaylor3880 27 дней назад
I like how staged your little research nook is.
@billydominguez493
@billydominguez493 11 дней назад
The zodiac is Donald Trump
@yoda9518
@yoda9518 21 день назад
Tea he
@kathykline7202
@kathykline7202 20 дней назад
You spell it TEE HEE
@yoda9518
@yoda9518 19 дней назад
@@kathykline7202 its actually tea she
@kathykline7202
@kathykline7202 19 дней назад
@@yoda9518 LOL yoda Good comeback.
@91lifetime23
@91lifetime23 14 дней назад
Yoo the zodiac was already found brother, Richard Hoffman, do your research
@vibingdude7188
@vibingdude7188 4 дня назад
bro just stop
@91lifetime23
@91lifetime23 4 дня назад
@@vibingdude7188 you ok bro?
@91lifetime23
@91lifetime23 4 дня назад
@@vibingdude7188 you must be living under a rock or your mama’s basement
@keithstringer1140
@keithstringer1140 26 дней назад
Arthur Leigh Allen was the Zodiac. It’s already been solved.
@theycantallbezodiac
@theycantallbezodiac 25 дней назад
When?
@NUKEHOAX2024OFFICIAL
@NUKEHOAX2024OFFICIAL 22 дня назад
While, yes, that’s *almost* certainly true (and yes, I’m EXTREMELY knowledgeable in this case) the case is NOT officially solved
@Bigwave2003
@Bigwave2003 22 дня назад
ALA was only Zodiac if all the evidence is wrong: the bloody fingerprints, the palm print, the eyewitness descriptions, the handwriting. Modern FBI profilers also rule out ALA because he was a pedophile: his victims were children. There has never been a case of a pedophile who was also a serial killer of adults.
@theycantallbezodiac
@theycantallbezodiac 22 дня назад
@@kathykline7202 I'm not Tom. Please stop
@curtisrobinson7962
@curtisrobinson7962 21 день назад
"The closest police have to Zodiac’s DNA are the stamps he used to post his cryptic letters. In the early 2000s, San Francisco investigators developed a partial profile by testing saliva traces retrieved from beneath a stamp. Because the profile is incomplete, it cannot rule anyone in. But it did rule out long-time suspect Arthur Leigh Allen in 2002."
@kathykline7202
@kathykline7202 17 дней назад
@kathykline7202 10 minutes ago (edited) Kevin. I am just going to tell you this straight on. I solved all ciphers and gave them to the cryptos including David. I solved jeach one time, a couple weeks later I noticed somehing. There was a under translation under the original. It said put P over A and X (i cant remember now over M. That that the second iteration. Then you do the same again, this time making changes that Zodiac told you and manipulate the languags again - The 3rd sats XXXXXXXXXXXZ13. I will let you solve third iteration. This will be Z13. Z32 and emperor of japan. using translator to break you get Solar Enkman (solar Pnel) emperor of japan, do the third the way zodiac said. Make Z32 and Z13 You have to do 3 breaks- he tells you what to do. The third Z32 says XXXXXXXXXZ13, I am not going to say what I am tired now. The small ones are separated by spaces and there is a one space delination. Youwill do Z32 all multiple lines line feeds, Do it like you did the first one. You get a file that will allow those special char, and you put it in google tranalator and pess enter.This will be the third and final break on these. The last translation will be the one you want. Now Z340, See the bad killing stuff. He said that before so why say it again. David is checking this for another translation. There should be letters you need to change, tDo that manipulate again and the third is the final informaiton. Z340 has 16 lines not solved, all informaiton about himself. Z408 That is Afrikaans Has name too. Z340 has his name, andZ408 has his name. Quite Bluntly Z13 andZ32 break 2 times, Z340 did the rest of the 20 lines. I believe there could be a double under that killing stuff, David is checking on this. Z340 and Z408 has 2 ciphers in there maybe 3. I asked David to see if there is. His name was in 340 and 408. Accumulated all iinformation and then we know a lot about Zodiac. We found identity first and that process took so long i cant write it -all doen. Z408 os Afrkaans This language was created when the Dutch colonized Africa. Two times to get his name. Z18 is one simple expanation - something is hidden. Since Z340 and Z408 had his name we got the zodiac killer. And here is one you wont believe Z13 and Z32 have 3 hidden solves. So does Z32. YOu might hear a phase 3 in one -thats self explanatory/ We found him with this information, there ws a deathbed confession and DNA natches in Fl snf CA. Le kows all this. They confronted him and a bedside confession was taped. we then did crossreferencing of his dna. Floriida was the first, Full DNA match. SFPD full DNA match. He is none of he supects he was a hs kid. Yes, he was caught and several people know his name all of us were cautioned not to tell. Some media was told but not you apparently becauase you try to debunk theories. I dare you to try to debunk this, you cannot because its right, There is no key as these are not ciphers. So the 4 lines dones has errors. It will need to be redone. Maybe they are not telling you because you try to debunk. Debunk this one, I dare you to do this. After 50 years, we got the right guy and we know it. He was cooperative. So many on here call me names want proof or just call me a liar. Not one thing did I lie about. I was the first to find him and solve all translations. I was kept updated. Now you know, we caught the Zodiac after 50 years. David knows, some of the media, DOJ, sfpd flpd sffbi fl fbi. The day we found him the FBI office cheered and they let me listen. I did not know who to send to in 2020. So I sent to you. It went into the garbage the entite thing. SFpd then told me who to send too. They wre all 100 percent right. So you cant debunk everything without proper analysis. AND WE GOT HIM AFTER 50 YEARS. pAUL HOLES IS ONE WHO IS AWARE ALSO. David knows but probably will not tell his name. I will save how he was found for another day WE GOT HIM, ITS THE RIGHT GUY. Now I am expecting to fend off THEY CANT ALL BE zODIAC AND NUKE HOAX. nUKE BELIEVES THE zODIAC IS THIS OTHER PERSON HE CANT POSSIBLY BE, tHEY CANT ALL BE ZODIAC JUST HARRASSES ME AND CALLS ME A LIAR A LOT. hE SAID I CAN EITHER TELL HIM THE NAME OR JUST MOVE ON. i SPENT 4 YEARS ON THE CASE, 6 MONTHS ON fLORIDA. fOOUND zODIAC AND SOLVED TRANSLATIONS MYSELF. tHE WAY PEOPLE T REAT OTHERS MAKE ME SICK. nO WAY DO THEY WORK TOGETHER. They got their man 100 percent and DL and Cheri are now being worked on with the paperwork. It was ihim too. I wonder why you were not told. Maybe because you just debunk. Well debunk this. Three countries could not do it. My way of solving was correct. and he with out a doubt is the Zodiac killer. WE GOT HIM AFTER 50 YEARS OF THIS CRAP. The end of story Scott Zodiac killer seargeant told me how the Zodiac story ends. At this time nothing more will be said. But this good news. Thousands thought they would never see this day. Well it happened./ The Harrassment is really bad here. I wont write to you any more and bug you. AND there was a death bed confession and dna matches in two states. This is now over. What did Zodiac try to hide. Well he is a terrorist. A red box came up on the background check saying this. Thats what David means by 3 in one. Solve all with google translator. I think this note will probably be deleted and you will not read it. It is HUGE news for whomever receives the full story.
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