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@UnplannedPodcast
@UnplannedPodcast 10 месяцев назад
Watch Ep 27 here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nOMyJwOnDxw.html
@Becca-jt5ec
@Becca-jt5ec 10 месяцев назад
This comment section is a reflection of what the Barbie monologue was saying by stating it’s impossible to be a woman. Here we have a woman who is sharing what she knows is best for her, and yet there are people in the comments deciding she doesn’t have enough agency to make her own decisions and she needs their input. None of you are saying anything new by saying she might be too old one day to have kids. Do you all really think that women don’t think these things through before making decisions about kids? Absolutely wild how little trust people on the internet have in a woman’s ability to make her own decisions for herself.
@Azendas
@Azendas 10 месяцев назад
Agreed, there is a part of the fan base here that has a very narrow view of what a couple should do and should look like. They don't seem to understand that people can still be happy by choosing a different path in life than their own.
@mayo3778
@mayo3778 10 месяцев назад
The comment section on this video is really, really gross.
@b_sus87
@b_sus87 10 месяцев назад
This is a nice sentiment and all, but clearly you didn’t watch the full video. She NEVER says she doesn’t want kids, quite the opposite actually. She said that if Nate said that he wants them to have kids, that she would be all in, AND at times she really wishes he would just say that and make the decision for her.
@lmt6672
@lmt6672 10 месяцев назад
Are you really quoting barbie 😂
@davisj7973
@davisj7973 10 месяцев назад
honestly no. no one is attacking her, they're just reflecting that most people realize too late they want kids...is anyone ever really ready for kids? probably definitely not those of who walk around being victims because of a comment section that is tame for social media standards.
@Essouza81
@Essouza81 10 месяцев назад
There's absolutely nothing wrong with not having kids.
@rebeccaa2097
@rebeccaa2097 10 месяцев назад
There is if you want them
@dibsdibs3495
@dibsdibs3495 10 месяцев назад
@@rebeccaa2097yeah but that’s not what this is related to. This is a conversation about choosing not to have children, not about infertility.
@Gwaycee
@Gwaycee 10 месяцев назад
There's everything wrong about that, unless one is the serial killer type, then don't have them.
@dibsdibs3495
@dibsdibs3495 10 месяцев назад
@@Gwaycee serial killer is the only exception? There’s a lot of terrible abusive, narcissistic, immature people that aren’t at serial killer level that shouldn’t be parents
@annaburke8537
@annaburke8537 10 месяцев назад
Why does someone always have to say this I mean duh
@clairegordon8765
@clairegordon8765 10 месяцев назад
People are crazy. If you don’t want to have kids don’t have kids if you want to have them have them live and let live.
@dibsdibs3495
@dibsdibs3495 10 месяцев назад
Yeah totally. I do think you should try to spend time in both situations’ shoes (obviously try not to get blinded by baby fever cuz that goes away) and try to imagine if you’re happy with either one being the rest of your life.
@maryjaneferguson2711
@maryjaneferguson2711 10 месяцев назад
​​@@dibsdibs3495 alot of women don't have baby fever. They don't want children. Plain and simple.
@InspirationalSmiles
@InspirationalSmiles 10 месяцев назад
💯💯💯💯💯
@dibsdibs3495
@dibsdibs3495 10 месяцев назад
@@maryjaneferguson2711 yeah I know I’m just saying that for a lot of people it’s complicated because of things like baby fever so they should try to figure out if they’re really all in or just want to spend time with a cute baby and stop caring when it grows up
@christinacanto3740
@christinacanto3740 10 месяцев назад
Not wanting kids is very different than just putting it off till it’s too late
@1927su
@1927su 6 месяцев назад
I’m older ; I’ve never regretted not having kids; I’ve been a “mom” to many adults & seniors that needed that mom figure; very fulfilling for me; And you give back to the world in other ways! I know I’ve been able to travel thru you guys!! A huge contribution for my life! Thanks!
@maryheller8560
@maryheller8560 2 месяца назад
truth! there are more adults out there that need 'parenting' because their parents had kids and weren't meant to.
@deannad9105
@deannad9105 10 месяцев назад
I hope that kids are never filling a void! I hope that they are adding to an already full life❤
@Essouza81
@Essouza81 10 месяцев назад
Kids are a ton of work. It's definitely more stress than enjoyment. It's okay to not have them.
@ButterflyElsy
@ButterflyElsy 10 месяцев назад
@@Essouza81 Some people are seriously mentally incapable of handling the challenging and rewarding work of raising kids- yewwww right!!!!
@Becca-jt5ec
@Becca-jt5ec 10 месяцев назад
Such a great distinction. Far too many people are having children to fulfill their own needs in life to be unconditionally loved, and there are not enough people reflecting on that and asking if it’s the most responsible decision to bring an innocent child into the world to make themselves feel better. I really appreciate you saying this.
@Gshiznit74
@Gshiznit74 10 месяцев назад
Beautifully said!
@p1271p
@p1271p 10 месяцев назад
Kids are a ton of work. But they are defiantly more enjoyable than they are stressful. I'm just assuming you don't have children.
@Majf0821
@Majf0821 10 месяцев назад
Such a refreshing conversation. I have one kid and was raised in rural area where people have 3+ kids. I am ONE AND DONE. So many people don’t understand that. Have kids, don’t have kids, adopt, foster, have one, it doesn’t matter you have to do what’s right for you and your life/family.
@amyjones5411
@amyjones5411 10 месяцев назад
Exactly 😂 I agree 100% do what's right for you because it doesn't matter what we choose someone will have something to say. No kids?! Only 1? Have two but then the age gap is the topic. Oh that's a big age gap 😳 oh so close together. How many kids?! That's too many! 😂😂
@Becca-jt5ec
@Becca-jt5ec 10 месяцев назад
Appreciate your honesty! Parents who are honest about how difficult it is to have children, and it’s not all just rainbows and butterflies and sunshine are so refreshing!
@dee4716
@dee4716 10 месяцев назад
Just wanna say my mum was an only child and absolutely hated it. And even now being older she still feels she missed out not having a sibling. When her mum died she wished she had a sibling to turn to and help each other, she felt so alone. Just food for thought for you.
@Majf0821
@Majf0821 10 месяцев назад
@@dee4716 siblings do not guarantee friendships at all. I am the oldest of 7 and am only close with one of them. My mom is one of 5 and doesn’t have relationships with any of them. My dad is the youngest of 4 and doesn’t talk to his siblings that are still living. Only children do not need siblings to feel less lonely. My in laws are both only children and they have developed life long friendships with people that they consider family and support them like a family. Having a second child just to entertain the first or benefit the first child is a terrible reason to have another child. It’s why a lot of middle children feel neglected emotionally. The only reason to have more children is if YOU simply WANT more. I do not want more children because I want an accessory for my first child. I don’t want more children period. I think having a child you don’t want just for the POSSIBILITY to make your first child feel less lonely is worse than being an only child. Families with one child are typically happier overall
@dee4716
@dee4716 10 месяцев назад
@Majf0821 of course not I my self am not particular close to my younger siblings but I know if anything happened to our parents we would have each other for support and understanding of what the others is going through. Having too many siblings and bigger age gaps is a different senario than having just 2, it changes the dynamics altogether. All my friends growing up who had a sibling close in age was very close and that's always what i wanted for my own family. Was just offering food for thought and in no way suggesting you have another child.
@plantwithroos
@plantwithroos 10 месяцев назад
When I was 20 I said I don't want kids. People told me to 'just wait'. I'm now 39 and still very happy and confident in my (our) decision to not have kids. People still tell me ''just wait' sometimes but now I know it's totally normal and ok to not want kids. ❤
@jboudie
@jboudie 9 месяцев назад
I'm happy for you :)
@annav21
@annav21 8 месяцев назад
Check in when you're 50 and 60 and 80.. and let us know then..
@sd1660
@sd1660 8 месяцев назад
@@annav21😂😂😂 crazy thing is she does not need to check in with you. Your approval for her life choices is not needed😂😂😂. Fun fact almost 25% of adult children are currently no contact with one or both of their parents and nursing home population is skyrocketing. So not sure your logic is sound on any level.
@average0910
@average0910 8 месяцев назад
​​​@@annav21what a bitter and condescending comment!! You can have many kids and still be alone/lonely. Having kids to not be alone when being older, is definetely the WRONG reason to have kids. If you don't want to, don't do it, it's that simple!
@annav21
@annav21 8 месяцев назад
@sd1660 not saying she needs to lol I'm just wondering where are all the older women who are still 100% happy with no kids.. a 30 year old saying shes happy with her choice doesn't mean she is making the right choice.. 30 year old is still young and healthy and can do whatever she wants
@amberlibirkhead4170
@amberlibirkhead4170 10 месяцев назад
Respect. So many people have kids not realizing they did t want them and they make their kids suffer. You all thought about, considered your current life situation, and made a plan.
@Ididntwantayoutubehandl
@Ididntwantayoutubehandl 10 месяцев назад
Who does that? You know "so many" people who had kids and now don't want them? I doubt it!
@heliotikis
@heliotikis 10 месяцев назад
@@IdidntwantayoutubehandlOh I do…
@Becca-jt5ec
@Becca-jt5ec 10 месяцев назад
@@Ididntwantayoutubehandl there’s literally an entire subreddit for regretful parents.
@ABTafevideos2022
@ABTafevideos2022 8 месяцев назад
@@Ididntwantayoutubehandlyes! Actually I have had multiple people disclose to me that if they could go back in time they wouldn’t have children, even though they love them very much. This has included both people who have children right now, and those with grown children. Parenting is a huge undertaking, and now that people have more avenues to explore it (ie online support groups for regretful parents) more people are able to recognise and name their regret for having children. It’s very important for everyone considering having kids to think hard abo it whether or not they actually want to raise a whole human for 18 years and beyond.
@atmosphericentry0
@atmosphericentry0 8 месяцев назад
@@Ididntwantayoutubehandl You set yourself up with this comment...
@sarahlola96
@sarahlola96 10 месяцев назад
Honestly it’s better to admit you don’t want kids than to force yourself to have them and not take proper care of them or give them the love they deserve. That would be selfish.
@Ididntwantayoutubehandl
@Ididntwantayoutubehandl 10 месяцев назад
Hardly any mother would do that and the ones that do are ill. Having a child, becoming a mother, changes you. Very few are cold to their children and as I said, are ill.
@briitt777
@briitt777 9 месяцев назад
@@IdidntwantayoutubehandlWow, how close minded are you. NOT EVERYONE WANTS KIDS. I have nieces and nephews that I take care of while my sisters work, and I know how hard it is to take care of kids. It’s hard, it’s not easy. Not everyone wants to have to deal with that.
@ABTafevideos2022
@ABTafevideos2022 8 месяцев назад
@@Ididntwantayoutubehandlunfortunately that just isn’t supported by evidence. In fact, child free women over 35 are the happiest demographic, and women with kids are among the least happy and satisfied. The majority of regretful parents (male or female) do not have a mental health disorder.
@Yestes
@Yestes 8 месяцев назад
@@ABTafevideos2022so miserable parents gave birth to happy children , so if no one has children you won’t have the happy demographic you’ve stated how interesting
@sophiebell4758
@sophiebell4758 7 месяцев назад
​@@Ididntwantayoutubehandlpeople Like you are the reason people Who believe they dont want Kids still "try". And than they have Kids, have Not changed, regret having Kids and cant Go Back. And also Woman/parents Who regret having Kids are Not ill.
@SR-ti3lf
@SR-ti3lf 9 месяцев назад
We are 72 and we agreed to no children at 21. We have been married fire 47 years. We have 12 nieces and nephews and 18 great nieces and nephews. We have a wonderful relationship with many of them, we’ve help pay for college for some. It’s enough.
@jboudie
@jboudie 9 месяцев назад
I'm so happy for you, I admire your self-assuredness, and how it has paid off!
@ronnie-lynn
@ronnie-lynn Месяц назад
I only have 1 niece. I don’t have children and I’m happy about that but I wish I had that many nieces and nephews ❤
@gigi2k326
@gigi2k326 10 месяцев назад
If everyone was as sure as this lady, the world woukd be a much better place.
@sarahlevine2397
@sarahlevine2397 9 месяцев назад
“This lady” lmao
@annav21
@annav21 8 месяцев назад
Shes not sure.. she said she doesn't know if she slows down she might feel different
@hollyfulton2636
@hollyfulton2636 8 месяцев назад
@@annav21 right and I guess her husband just wants whatever she does or doesn't want.
@Sara-May
@Sara-May 5 месяцев назад
Tf? Her entire point was that she’s not sure
@diamondly6250
@diamondly6250 4 месяца назад
@@hollyfulton2636 from what he said in the past i think there going off what they both want, but if she just said no he would be okay with it. but i think she would want his say also
@h.l.6156
@h.l.6156 8 месяцев назад
it's so crazy how there is a narrative that women will regret not having kids yet its not acceptable for women to openly say they regret having them. I personally would so much rather long for something I don't have that only exists as a concept in my mind than regret a choice as big as creating a whole human and having to take care of them in some way for the rest of my life.
@goviralgo6418
@goviralgo6418 7 месяцев назад
It’s not a narrative most women usually regret when they are older . Hopefully she wont
@hollym1821
@hollym1821 5 месяцев назад
Most childless, by choice, women I know don't regret the decision. I know quite a few, so not sure where you get that from. Conversely, I have met a few women who were coaxed into having children, and openly admitted if they had to do it over, they wouldn't.
@wiezyczkowata
@wiezyczkowata 2 месяца назад
@@goviralgo6418 women who make those decisions never regret them, we actually do think long and hard about it, because we are the ones who will bring those kids to the world and in the end we will be the pnes taking 99% responsibility for them, so if a woman makes that decision - she knows what she is doing
@chaeyoungsstrawberryfarm3327
@chaeyoungsstrawberryfarm3327 10 месяцев назад
This is amazing. If less women felt pressured and really thought to themselves about wanting to have kids, we would probably have less parents resenting kids. It’s not completely the parents fault but it’s definitely not the kids:/
@melissam7379
@melissam7379 8 месяцев назад
I don’t see any women pressured to have kids today. It’s the exact opposite in fact….women are pressured to work and have a career and not worry about being a wife and mother. It’s frowned upon to want a family in 2023. Women are more celebrated for abortions than being stay at home moms…..
@mollybrown4764
@mollybrown4764 8 месяцев назад
@@melissam7379as a woman who doesn’t want kids- yes, people do continue to pressure me/say I’ll regret it, etc.
@chaeyoungsstrawberryfarm3327
@chaeyoungsstrawberryfarm3327 7 месяцев назад
@@melissam7379 it’s true but in those very traditional eras of the world there’s definitely pressure, and I think it’s a lot of them that shouldn’t actually have kids. Anyone who’s pressured shouldn’t have kids😬
@sophiebell4758
@sophiebell4758 7 месяцев назад
​@@melissam7379na dont agree. As a Woman in her mir twenties Who has a Career and doesnt Want Kids, i get Pushed so often because "Kids are the Greatest, they are so rewarding" "once you have Them, you will Change your mind" "you will regret Not having Them" "If you dont want Kids than you are sick" etc. I get definetly encouraged or even Pushed to have Kids, and Sometimes even downright called mentally wrong For Not having Them.
@van2165
@van2165 7 месяцев назад
@@melissam7379no women are often pressured to have kids. Maybe not where you are but it’s still very common
@marinamayo7994
@marinamayo7994 10 месяцев назад
I had my first child at 32 and the third at 38! Family planning is so individual! God bless you!
@Jessica-gk4on
@Jessica-gk4on 10 месяцев назад
Same 😊
@lizisasleep
@lizisasleep 10 месяцев назад
I had my first at 34 and will be having my second at 37 :)
@TheUnderCoverMother2020
@TheUnderCoverMother2020 10 месяцев назад
I had my 1st at 24 and my 2nd at 34. She's turning 18 in December ❤
@raheezamajeed9664
@raheezamajeed9664 8 месяцев назад
How vulnerable of cara. I appreciate her. Even as a mom of 1 who wants more.
@E.L.A.I.N.E
@E.L.A.I.N.E 10 месяцев назад
I’m so glad they had Kara and Nate on there podcast! They are such amazing people and great representation that not all people are ready for kids as soon as they turn thirty. She loves children but that doesn’t mean she’s ready for them or really wants them🤍 Her and Nate have so many more adventures and places to explore
@lindseypiilani
@lindseypiilani 9 месяцев назад
i love how Nate doesn’t interrupt or talk over her he lets her speak freely i love them together ❤
@emmajones8590
@emmajones8590 8 месяцев назад
Men generally get a lot less flak for being childless by choice.
@tessa4668
@tessa4668 8 месяцев назад
Always surprised that a woman has to justify that decision.
@stacym735
@stacym735 7 месяцев назад
Wouldn't you think we'd be past that by now? Sadly that doesn't appear to be the case.
@tobysmomexplores3556
@tobysmomexplores3556 2 месяца назад
Thank you for being willing to say it not only out loud but for the world to hear! The CHOICE needs to be normalized. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!
@heidiwright5248
@heidiwright5248 10 месяцев назад
This comment section is so judgemental and disgusting. Having children is a personal choice, there are many reason for and against. Be respectful of others' decisions, you wouldn't want them judging yours
@InspirationalSmiles
@InspirationalSmiles 10 месяцев назад
I think there’s so much emphasis on this and it should be much more natural. If You have kids cool if you don’t cool- your life is your life do all the things you can/want to enjoy in it.. if you want to raise a child, there are many out there to be raised, if you want to go through pregnancy I wish you the best with it but life is fulfilling with or without things/experiences kids aren’t the exception in my opinion. I am also childless, but open to having them or not.
@macgirl1234
@macgirl1234 9 месяцев назад
Wow this is a hard thing to share in a circle like this. It shouldn't be. You should be supported whether you decide to make a literal human. But sadly that's not the world we live in. I think it's a great choice! I hope you can withstand the pressure from others. I can PROMISE if you decide to have a kid, the pressure won't go away. It'll just switch. Then it'll be"but what about a second?? They need a friend!" Then it'll be "aren't you too old to be a mom?" And all of those people will be NO WHERE when you need help. Because it was "your choice" to have kids
@jboudie
@jboudie 9 месяцев назад
Exactly!!!!
@shamekathompson988
@shamekathompson988 5 месяцев назад
Love this ..at least she knows and they're both in agreement.... they're living life...‼️💪🏾🗣️🙏🏽💙🎉
@seraphinataylor676
@seraphinataylor676 9 месяцев назад
I cannot put into words how much I love this. So fantastic to hear open and honest discussion on this topic. It takes a village to raise children and that can't happen if the whole village is exhausted from looking after kids. Fulfilled and self-actualising adults are the role models kids need and, many times, parenting can be overwhelming and self-sacrificing to a degree that leaves the kids with only a model of survival and not thriving. Let's have more people available to help model happiness for our kids and fewer strung out parents. Anyone who decides not to have kids can save the time and resources that would have gone towards their potential children, which can then be put towards kids that are in the world. Just like environmental resources, mental health resources, positive messages and great influences all need to come from places of peace and bounty, not overwhelm and exhaustion.
@jboudie
@jboudie 9 месяцев назад
Wow, I just loved everything you wrote here!! Thanks for sharing this
@cassandranavarro8430
@cassandranavarro8430 10 месяцев назад
LOL Abby’s face 😂
@coffeencats
@coffeencats 10 месяцев назад
Oh the facial expressions...😳
@danni6257
@danni6257 9 месяцев назад
It's ok not to have children though. Just because someone has chosen to, and another has chosen not to, that both of there respective decisions 🙂 Just be happy for each other
@cassandranavarro8430
@cassandranavarro8430 8 месяцев назад
@@danni6257 yes of course lol I just thought Abby’s face was so funny here I’m sure it wasn’t intentional
@danni6257
@danni6257 8 месяцев назад
@@cassandranavarro8430 Naa I'm sure it wasn't haha! It's funny how things happen at certain times
@amandaeaton1177
@amandaeaton1177 10 месяцев назад
Some people will say "She's gonna have regrets later on for not having kids" but guess what, its better to feel regrets for not having kids instead of feeling regrets for having kids... u can't just dump your kids away. If she wants to have kids in her 40s /50s /60s, there's always the option for adoption.
@amicosfoodindustries999
@amicosfoodindustries999 10 месяцев назад
But its not always like that you cant just easily say you can adopt at any age when you have kids its your whole responsibility you will have to take care of that child. Adopting in your 50s to 60s you are not as physically capable then 20 years ago
@amicosfoodindustries999
@amicosfoodindustries999 10 месяцев назад
You cant just say they can adopt at any age they want being in your 50s and 60s you body is not as physically capable then 20 years ago plus for a child their gonna have to sleep less, take care of it, and feed it. Stop commenting about your side only!
@krystalnguyen3285
@krystalnguyen3285 10 месяцев назад
@@amicosfoodindustries999 There's older children who need to be adopted too, not just babies. They also need a home. A 50 or 60 year old might not be as physically capable, but maybe more mentally prepared for an older child who needs more guidance in the world than a little kid.
@TheUnderCoverMother2020
@TheUnderCoverMother2020 10 месяцев назад
​@@krystalnguyen3285Many Grandparents in their 50's and 60's have wound up raising their own Grandkids. 50's isn't old at all.
@Snagprophet
@Snagprophet 9 месяцев назад
People want to pass their genes on, otherwise they'd just sterilise themselves and adopt in their prime.
@acardamone9
@acardamone9 8 месяцев назад
I respect this so much, you have to reflect and figure out what's best for you. I just had my second baby after having a very traumatic experience with my first and saying I would never ever have more kids. It's been such a healing experience, like I feel like a completely new person because of this little baby I never thought I would have. I'm also 36 so it's definitely my last. My husband and I also talked about not having kids and we would have had a great life that way too, but of course we are so in love with our little family of 4.
@ashlygh_michael
@ashlygh_michael 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for normalising not wanting children. A lot of women are confronted with that possible thought and don't want to share it out of fear that they will be reprimanded. I have some friends going through that thought process. ❤
@lizaikin3194
@lizaikin3194 7 месяцев назад
Normalize??
@ashlygh_michael
@ashlygh_michael 7 месяцев назад
@@lizaikin3194 I'm in Australia
@van2165
@van2165 7 месяцев назад
@@lizaikin3194yes making it more comfortable and normal for regular people
@angelanotes
@angelanotes 10 месяцев назад
For those asking what will she think when she is 50, I can't speak for her particularly but as an almost 60 year old, no regrets. If I did, I rather regret the kids I did not have then regret the ones I did.
@jboudie
@jboudie 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for this insight!!! So happy for you
@MarkHarper-ek8ss
@MarkHarper-ek8ss 7 месяцев назад
❤❤
@tamarakelli687
@tamarakelli687 5 месяцев назад
As a parent who chose to have kids, I don't regret them. Not sure I've ever met someone who regretted their children.
@hollym1821
@hollym1821 5 месяцев назад
​​@@tamarakelli687met a few people that have. Most don't really want to admit it simply cause it would imply they don't love their children. The people I know who are most candid about it say they love their kids, but if they had to do it again, they wouldn't.
@Poddizle
@Poddizle 10 месяцев назад
Omg thank you!!! I love her response. I don't want kids and I get so much shit for it. Why can't that be more socially acceptable.
@karleyj9706
@karleyj9706 10 месяцев назад
I don't know how many times I've said that and everyone still says "well, WHEN you have kids..."
@Poddizle
@Poddizle 10 месяцев назад
@@karleyj9706 I hate that response
@traceypotter7669
@traceypotter7669 10 месяцев назад
I never wanted kids, had one. Love her beyond words. But I would never, ever sit in judgement of people who don't want kids and don't have them. It's nothing to do with anyone else anyway, and it gets under my skin more than most things about how adamant others are you should have kids or you will regret it. Mind your own business, and let others live their own life as they deem right. What's right for one, isn't right for others. Choice. It's a thing!
@Poddizle
@Poddizle 10 месяцев назад
@@traceypotter7669 love everything you said.
@kris7833
@kris7833 10 месяцев назад
⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@traceypotter7669may i ask what made you change ur mind? Was it finding the right partner? Or was it your decision changing after some time? I’m young rn and i feel like i wont want kids but idk if that will change
@malibubarbie9098
@malibubarbie9098 10 месяцев назад
I just turned 33 and my husband and I don’t have any kids yet. All our friends and family always ask us why and when..knowing damn well we have been trying for years now. I’m starting to panic at the thought of never having kids but maybe I should try to look at the positives and if it happens it happens and if it doesn’t it just doesn’t. It’s to painful to focus on.
@heatherrowles9930
@heatherrowles9930 9 месяцев назад
It took my husband and I 5 years to conceive our daughter.....I was nearly 30 when she was born. I conceived my next 5 pregnancies within 2 years (no, none of them survived). It will happen when and if it is meant to....and, although I have no regrets about having my daughter, she is now 27 years old and considering for herself whether or not she wants to carry babies....we share an auto immune condition that makes pregnancy and childbirth very difficult......I kind of hope that she doesnt. The treatments she takes for the auto immune condition are something she'd have to stop for pregnancy and breast feeding and there is a high chance (50%) that any child she has will also have the condition. Parenthood isnt necessarily a good idea for everyone.
@jboudie
@jboudie 9 месяцев назад
@@heatherrowles9930 Thank you for sharing your experience and perspective!
@TheTeslacoilz
@TheTeslacoilz 9 месяцев назад
Such a scary reflection to ask yourself as a person what you really want out of life. It's important to question ourselves. Especially when it comes to asking yourself about birthing/raising children. It's a lifelong commitment that's always filled me with great anxiety as a woman. I'm glad she said this.
@jboudie
@jboudie 9 месяцев назад
I'm with you. This is such a huge, many-lives-altering decision that I've never taken lightly and has always caused me great anxiety as well.
@laurenskee2665
@laurenskee2665 10 месяцев назад
Adoption is always an option. If you decide later on you want them, there are thousands of kids who need a home.
@SuzNbhollenberry
@SuzNbhollenberry 10 месяцев назад
Yup! Thats my plan since I cant have kids
@heliotikis
@heliotikis 10 месяцев назад
Especially older kids, it hurts to see everyone just go for babies
@lisanagle7893
@lisanagle7893 9 месяцев назад
Or maybe they don't want any!
@denisewilson1309
@denisewilson1309 9 месяцев назад
And from all around the world
@earthangel.k.
@earthangel.k. 8 месяцев назад
Right
@elsa_nyc
@elsa_nyc 9 месяцев назад
Personally I have never met a woman who regretted not having children but I have spoken to women who've had children and have regretted it. I think that there is so much pressure from society and families to do something that very few people can really stand on their own 2 feet and say I don't think this is right for me. Brother to this young woman who made that decision and there's a lot of support for you out there in the universe. Please just ignore the judgy lookFrom the other woman in the video.
@demetria3626
@demetria3626 8 месяцев назад
@@m2543 yeah it usually is
@sd1660
@sd1660 8 месяцев назад
43 no regrets. Half my friends do not have children. Oldest one is in her 60s. So far none of us regret our choice and interestingly all made it for different reasons. To each their own.
@hegetv2111
@hegetv2111 8 месяцев назад
I know several people regretting not having kids. I also know people regretting having kids with the person they had kids with, but I've never met anyone regretting having kids. They just wish the father/mother was someone else. We are "programmed" to care about our children's safety and wellbeing first and foremost. That's nature's way of securing that our species live on. I think it's very rare that a "normal" parent with no extreme issues in life wishes their child had never been born. When it does happen, I imagine it must be very damaging for the children.
@carrela1000
@carrela1000 8 месяцев назад
​@@m2543So because you haven't met them, they don't exist? That's a very entitled way of looking at the world.
@carrela1000
@carrela1000 8 месяцев назад
@m2543 Opposite of what? All I said was that you're entitled for thinking that just because you've never experienced something means it doesn't exist. No one said the opposite of that above?
@Evergreenvic
@Evergreenvic 7 месяцев назад
I had mine at 33 and 36. I 100% knew I wanted to be a parent. You need that full commitment cause parenting is the hardest.
@Zz2424zxcvbnn
@Zz2424zxcvbnn 8 месяцев назад
I’ve followed Kara and Nate’s channel for some years now. Kara is genuinely one of the sweetest and most wholesome women I’ve ever seen. Whether or not they have kids, a marriage between these two would make life just as whole and complete as any one can wish for!
@baumeister5705
@baumeister5705 10 месяцев назад
Kids aren’t here to fill voids they enrich our lives and if you feel like your life is perfect without kids that’s totally acceptable
@truepenny2514
@truepenny2514 10 месяцев назад
Unless you are 💯 sure you want a kid - don’t have one. Extremely responsible decision!
@snuff-lh1zt
@snuff-lh1zt 9 месяцев назад
Nothing wrong with having kids, but if I knew then what I know now I would have slowed down. I had my oldest, graduated hs (on time and from a tech school that year also), worked a few yrs, went to college (double major, bachelor's degree) and then after college I wanted another kid. I ended up having 2 (and losing 1). All 3 are considered disabled, but the oldest is very high functioning. You never know what situation you may go thru with them medically or whatever. Everyone imagines a "perfect" baby and no one "expects" certain things to happen. So that's a huge thing to consider when having kids, that things may look normal but you find out after they are born that things won't be how "they should" . ❤ do you girl!
@carlierose3998
@carlierose3998 9 месяцев назад
YES!! This is so refreshing. Go you Kara ❤️
@emilyjanexx1
@emilyjanexx1 10 месяцев назад
I feel the exact same way at 33 and I love that people are talking about it more. I am so happy to not have kids, and I am so much happier than all of my friends that do have them. It’s just not for some people
@mplp1959
@mplp1959 10 месяцев назад
They are not less happier than you. They have purpose and purpose can be hard and a lot of work. Purpose is giving and bringing life to others as life was brought to you. They will see their children grow and graduate school, marry and have their own children. Those are the rewards of purpose. You have no purpose you will have no rewards.
@tessietrue7485
@tessietrue7485 10 месяцев назад
@@mplp1959to say someone has no purpose because they do not have children is beyond ridiculous. If that’s your purpose in life GREAT but that may not be her purpose or anyone else for that matter.
@mplp1959
@mplp1959 10 месяцев назад
@@tessietrue7485 If life is lived for your own self and choosing not to pass on what was given to you by your parents then yes you have no purpose.
@cassyschraft6268
@cassyschraft6268 10 месяцев назад
​@mplp1959 there are countless people who have contributed so much to our society who don't have kids. Jesus didn't have children...are you saying his life had no purpose? Oprah, George Washington, Isaac Newton, and Leonardo da Vinci are all individuals who don't have children that have left important legacies with the work they've done. They didn't have any purpose?
@mplp1959
@mplp1959 10 месяцев назад
@@cassyschraft6268 Women are there for children.
@jj-if6it
@jj-if6it 9 месяцев назад
Love what she said. I'm 36 and that maternal instinct and need has just never kicked in
@annythesilent6697
@annythesilent6697 9 месяцев назад
33 here, same :)
@michellel7872
@michellel7872 8 месяцев назад
Maternal instinct doesn’t kick in until you have a baby and trust me it is instant ❤
@jj-if6it
@jj-if6it 8 месяцев назад
@@michellel7872 it doesn't for some people though which is scary. Also I kinda meant the instinct to have a baby, which just isn't there like it is for some people.
@katherinetomasello3661
@katherinetomasello3661 7 месяцев назад
That's a LOT more normal and common than you think.
@davinanaylor9443
@davinanaylor9443 7 месяцев назад
Im 25 and same, i dont get baby fever
@41takeiteasy23
@41takeiteasy23 8 месяцев назад
I'm not surprised. I kinda felt that vibe with yall ❤
@coleengoodell7523
@coleengoodell7523 9 месяцев назад
Kara and Nate are the best Aunt, Uncle, friend of those who have kids. Wherever they go, children are drawn to Kara and she puts her full self, her love and light towards them. Not having their own is by no means selfish. It allows them to reach out, not only in person, but also online to bring joy, excitement and wonder into many families lives.
@brittneyhoward9595
@brittneyhoward9595 10 месяцев назад
You never wake up “ready” to have kids. It’s a blessing and a choice to take that step. I know it’s not for everyone, but it’s been the greatest adventure I’ve ever taken!
@AngelaR1117
@AngelaR1117 10 месяцев назад
Absolutely! Well said.
@bidenstillsucks2249
@bidenstillsucks2249 10 месяцев назад
I agree as someone who struggled with fertility problems. My kids are a blessing it took me five years to get my oldest.
@LifeWithKarisha
@LifeWithKarisha 4 месяца назад
Good for you.
@xaivlys
@xaivlys 9 месяцев назад
Also, just a heads up for those who don't know them and judge them for not having kids, Kara and Nate are full-time travellers. Personally, if I'm roaming around the world, I'd rather not have kids as well 😊
@kirbi_
@kirbi_ 8 месяцев назад
There should be no judgment for them choosing to not have kids regardless of their circumstances. Those decisions are incredibly personal and individuals outside of their relationship should have absolutely zero opinion because it has nothing to do with them. We shouldn’t feel the need to say “don’t judge” when there’s nothing anyone should be passing judgment on. Full time travelers, full time work from home, full time whatever - it doesn’t need to be justified.
@BonnieJoan
@BonnieJoan 9 месяцев назад
It’s a decision you get to make. I am now a young grandmother and all my friends are too. If I was the only one of my friends without children and grandchildren I would be so very sad. Our adult children are a huge blessing both with their love and with their help. I guess my point is to make the decision with your whole future in mind.
@junesorenson279
@junesorenson279 10 месяцев назад
Kara, people have children all of the way into their 40's and FLYING THE NEST are traveling with two understand two. But there's nothing wrong without having children, but there's is hope if you want it ❤❤
@sarahmariab00
@sarahmariab00 8 месяцев назад
Abby’s face 😂😂😂
@Kw14357
@Kw14357 10 месяцев назад
It's mad that women are mad to feel like they need to have kids in life. Deciding not to have any should be just as accepted as having them.
@Mmc.Indigo
@Mmc.Indigo 10 месяцев назад
It's crazy but it's also the "traditional" way of thinking. We're evolving out of that mindset now because there's so much to life than settling down with someone and working to death. There's nothing wrong with starting a family but it's just not ideal for everyone in this new age.
@gritvoigt3340
@gritvoigt3340 8 месяцев назад
Respect for you Kara, your decision is truly brave. ❤
@dulceg928
@dulceg928 10 месяцев назад
Same tho, im 27 and i thought I would have at least one kid by now. But things just haven't slowed down or been steady enough for me to be able to have kids yet, i want little ones so bad and I want to be a mom. But I don't know if my husband and I will ever be ready to bring life into the world snd thats just really sad to think on
@jcfeb14
@jcfeb14 10 месяцев назад
Just started watching the whole interview! I’m so excited! Kara and Nate stories that I’ve never heard. Yay!!
@shoggy1713
@shoggy1713 10 месяцев назад
If it’s not an absolute yes - strongly consider no! More people regret having kids than you’d think
@maryjaneferguson2711
@maryjaneferguson2711 10 месяцев назад
I know women who regret having them. The children don't know, though.
@heliotikis
@heliotikis 10 месяцев назад
@@maryjaneferguson2711They’ll figure it out eventually unfortunately
@mandyschlender
@mandyschlender 9 месяцев назад
You still have time! Be patient! I didn’t have kids until I was 44 & 46. Enjoy NOW and don’t worry about kids!
@jimbarino2
@jimbarino2 8 месяцев назад
You are the EXTREME exception. Most women have no chance - none - of having kids past 40, and the chances past 30 go down precipitously.
@melanieladd7689
@melanieladd7689 Месяц назад
Wow. Thank you for being so open and honest with your decision. Makes me feel like I can do the same!
@laurierodriguez1432
@laurierodriguez1432 9 месяцев назад
I don't have children and I'm 61 years old and I have zero regrets. You do what's best for you!! I LOVE being an auntie✌️💜
@TiyanaJ
@TiyanaJ 9 месяцев назад
Not having children should be the norm, and not an expectation thrust on women. Having children should be something we make a conscious decision about if we decide parenthood is right for us. Not the other way around!
@kittywafffles
@kittywafffles 8 месяцев назад
Loved this episode!
@michelegoesglossy1879
@michelegoesglossy1879 8 месяцев назад
I wanted to be Mom since i was 20 or at least i thought i wanted to at that age. Thankfully, for healthy reasons, it never happened until now that I'm 40. I'm pregnant at 40 and I know i'll be a better Mom now than if it had happened when i was 20 or even 30. Life led me through a journey where i'm more aware of my emotions, of who I am and understanding that patience and resilience is part of happiness. I'll be able to teach that to my baby and because at this age i've accepted i'm not perfect, I'll be able to accept naturally my flaws as a Mom. I'd also like to point it out that I have friends that decided not to have kids and they are very happy with their decision. Each one has its own path towards happiness. We don't need to fit stereotype boxes.
@rebeccaradbourne5651
@rebeccaradbourne5651 10 месяцев назад
Its WAY more responsible going child free over having kids u dont want or cant support. Good on her.
@traceypotter7669
@traceypotter7669 10 месяцев назад
Why the question of why someone doesn't want kids is so inflammatory is beyond me. You either do or don't want kids. It's individual. It's personal. ITS PRIVATE. If someone wants to offer their choice, good on them. But hiw dare anyone question or judge their choice. Kara and Nate, I've followed you guys for years, and I love you guys. Your choices are yours and don't need explained or justifies.
@lizcleave5717
@lizcleave5717 8 месяцев назад
Completely understand about thinking about having children by a certain age and then changing your mind. It’s your decision. Love watching your adventures. And if you ever decide differently you could always adopt.
@Freedom_and_Acceptance
@Freedom_and_Acceptance 8 месяцев назад
I understand the idea of filling a void with kids if you don't have them (yet). It's actually completely the other way around, you fill up your kids with what's inside of you and it's also a really hard process of letting go because kids grow up and they challenge you. If there is a real void in your life, having kids will be even harder because they will ask you to give everything you have. I totally understand having kids and also not having them, two different but equally valid paths.
@leslieholland7843
@leslieholland7843 9 месяцев назад
Over time I found that I could not have kids. Eventually I became ok with it. The worse my mental and physical illnesses have gotten the happier I am that I did not pass my genetic lottery on to them. My late husband had a lot of kids (7). in his youth and in the military. His genetics were fine, so that's ok with me.
@chiwawa6612
@chiwawa6612 10 месяцев назад
I love kids and always thought I wanted to be a mother when I was younger. I’m 33 now, and don’t feel that desire at all anymore. I know soon I will have to make a decision, but I just can’t picture it anymore. People make you feel like there is something wrong with you.
@thefelixfam
@thefelixfam 10 месяцев назад
X2 Im 27 and i have never had the desire to be a mom but unlike man i know theres a chronological clock for us... ive been married for 6 years and people constantly ask us when are we having kids, we both happy enjoying our life , we have so many hobbies... this year i was like okay i guess 30 it is , so pretty much im training myself but im so scared ... people dont talk how hard it is and i dont if i will be ready ...
@sundiegoshine2922
@sundiegoshine2922 10 месяцев назад
Same girl
@user-jv2xo5gt5f
@user-jv2xo5gt5f 10 месяцев назад
People definitely do, I can't have them due to medical reasons at 23 and literally EVERYONE tells me that it's wrong to accept that fact and I should risk my health to have a child even if I don't desire one because "miracles happen" and "you'll change your mind"
@jboudie
@jboudie 9 месяцев назад
@@user-jv2xo5gt5f What an ableist mindset of those people who judge you and place their projections onto you. I hope you continue to stand in your power and choose whatever is right for you !!
@lareece2549
@lareece2549 9 месяцев назад
I love how transparent these talks are. Wether it’s just you two or the guest, I love that Eve try one is saying their truth at that point in life or talking about an experience. Very cool❤😁
@Mommaloo20
@Mommaloo20 8 месяцев назад
Hey that’s okay Kara ❤ you are awesome just the way you are!
@a.schmidt3096
@a.schmidt3096 10 месяцев назад
Abby and Matt, as someone who has been a long time viewer of Kara and Nate’s channel, I’m disappointed by how judgmental your comment section is (especially about Kara’s looks wtf??)
@Summer09824
@Summer09824 7 месяцев назад
You know what’s incredibly selfish? Having kids because you feel like it’s what you’re supposed to do & then realising afterwards it’s not what you really want. That’s selfish.
@thekiahjane
@thekiahjane 8 месяцев назад
Yasssss Kara&Nate is what we needed on this channel!
@susanalbanese2787
@susanalbanese2787 8 месяцев назад
You guys are awesome and I love that you are doing your thing. It’s OK to not have kids. You would make awesome parents but I totally get it. Kudos to living the way YOU want to.
@FireCracker3240
@FireCracker3240 9 месяцев назад
I'm so proud of Kara for speaking publicly about her and Nate's feelings on the subject of kids. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with choosing to not have them. Here I am, over 40 years old, childless and very happy about it. I love my life the way it is and there is NO shame in this. The shame is the insane pressure and expectation to have them. Women (and men) who choose to remain childless should be supported, not scoffed at. Thank you, Kara, for being brave and talking about this! Love you!
@lexximartin6809
@lexximartin6809 10 месяцев назад
I’m so happy I’m never having kids, the best decision I’ve made for myself; although I’ve never even wanted them before so 🤷🏻‍♀️
@sarahlind24
@sarahlind24 9 месяцев назад
I liked hearing this. At 32, I too was struggling with the idea of having kids and thought surely at any moment I would start to feel maternal and longing to start a family. Last year I actually tried to hype myself up to the idea because I realized that I wasn’t getting any younger and I needed to start soon if it was even going to happen. Little did I know that a uterine fibroid took over my uterus and fused to one of my ovaries and earlier this year I had to have a hysterectomy. Everything but one ovary is gone, I’m robbed of my all of reproductive parts before I could even think of using them. So not only did it make my decision for me, but it also solidified the fact that even if I wanted to, I can never have a pregnancy and therefore, never having a child of our own. I just thought I was doing right but waiting until I felt mature enough to have children, and to feel fully ready to take on the role. I guess that’s irony when you say you don’t know what you have until it’s gone.
@arosewillbloom
@arosewillbloom 2 месяца назад
Don't worry, you can always adopt!
@AshleyOliviaDaCosta
@AshleyOliviaDaCosta 8 месяцев назад
There is no void, Kara! It’s a scam😂! You are complete as is! Be the best auntie ever! Keep living the dream!
@nathalie1122
@nathalie1122 10 месяцев назад
Love you Kara! This is exactly my point of view on kids. Thanks for saying it out loud!
@mlev1111
@mlev1111 8 месяцев назад
Yes! I just got surgically sterlized and i have no children. I have never felt like there was a void in my life that only having children would fill! I love my life the way it is!
@shalinisen
@shalinisen 8 месяцев назад
More power to you, Kate. Its your choice, always. Not even Nate's. Your body, you mind, your comfort levels, your future, your choice. And hey, feel free to change your mind, if YOU wanan, or not.
@shalinisen
@shalinisen 8 месяцев назад
*wanna
@Peace210ve
@Peace210ve 8 месяцев назад
I love this sm!! I’ve always wanted to have kids and be a mother. There’s something beautiful in being able to grow and nurture something that is a direct part of you. But as I’ve gotten older, I’ve realized just how unequipped I am for that kind of responsibility. I have AHDH and very little patience, I’m scatterbrained and can barely function as an adult. I can’t keep any pets bc I would t be able to care for them the way they should be. I’m selfish with love, and find it hard to ever ask for help. Maybe this will change as I get older, but despite me longing to be a mother, I just don’t think it would be fair to bring a child into this world if I can’t give it the absolute best I can give.
@asmita_nancy
@asmita_nancy 10 месяцев назад
I absolutely support women not wanting kids, but specially love the fact when their husbands/partners feel the same and support their decision.
@khadijahaddad3273
@khadijahaddad3273 10 месяцев назад
Abby is just giving her a really judgyyyyy look 😅
@magdalinethompson5023
@magdalinethompson5023 10 месяцев назад
It’s just her poker face. It’s an opposing view and she’s contemplating. I don’t think Abby is against not having kids, she’s just personally always wanted to be a mother herself.
@jessiewhitman8688
@jessiewhitman8688 9 месяцев назад
Like I said, I think it made her uncomfortable. Her hand on her belly and body language really makes me think that answer really made her uncomfortable.
@ruledbyvenusss
@ruledbyvenusss 8 месяцев назад
@@jessiewhitman8688i don’t really understand why this answer would make her uncomfortable. it’s just another person making a different decision & they both seem happy with their different decisions
@MirandaM450
@MirandaM450 9 месяцев назад
Whaaaaat!! Love Kara and Nate totally gonna watch this one❣️
@tehilagracie6466
@tehilagracie6466 4 месяца назад
Which eye cream and suntan lotion do you use for your face?😮😊
@jendavis2402
@jendavis2402 9 месяцев назад
I can completely respect the choice not to have children. However I will voice one thing. If you're going to make this choice please make plans for care in your old age. Buy into long term healthcare insurance. Decide what assisted living facility you'll be at. Assume that your friends will all be in a similar state. You don't want to get to that phase of your life and not have a plan.
@jboudie
@jboudie 9 месяцев назад
This is true and good advice for everyone hoping to live into old age regardless of whether they have kids or not. Many people have children and do not consider these things, assuming their children will take care of them in their old age, then are saddened and shocked to grow old and find their children have started their own families and no longer want to put in the work/time to take care of their own aging parents.
@nayvirodriguez5358
@nayvirodriguez5358 8 месяцев назад
So you had kids just to use them and anchor them with the responsibility of taking care of their elderly parents. So beautiful 😒
@stacym735
@stacym735 7 месяцев назад
Everyone should do all of that; not just childless people. People who have kids just so they'll be "take care of" in their old age should probably not have them.
@elsa_nyc
@elsa_nyc 10 месяцев назад
And stats prove that there are significantly more happily married couples without children. Marriages with children, fewer describe as happy.
@jboudie
@jboudie 9 месяцев назад
Yep! Statistically the healthiest and self-described "happiest" cohort of anyone are women without children who never married!
@elsa_nyc
@elsa_nyc 9 месяцев назад
@@jboudie yes, exactly. But men don't want to believe it, so they chose not to accept reality.
@donnawarmouth9329
@donnawarmouth9329 6 месяцев назад
Totally your decision!!! I commend you for not feeling like you have to.
@supermanisrad
@supermanisrad 8 месяцев назад
Omg that’s me. I’m 32. Almost all my friends have kids and I always thought I’d be a young mom. Now I’m not sure I want to be a mom at all. It’s interesting how you plan something for so long only to decide it’s not what you really wanted after all.
@jocelynkeene533
@jocelynkeene533 9 месяцев назад
As a 25 year old who’s known for years that I don’t want kids, I really appreciate this. Kids are NOT for everyone, and not everyone should be a parent. I wish more women could talk about being child free without the negative reactions and people who claim we just “don’t know that we want them yet”, that’s so patronizing and degrading. Do what’s best for you, and if that’s not having kids, then don’t have kids ♥️
@lexie1371
@lexie1371 10 месяцев назад
Absolutely nothing wrong with not having kids.
@justdana23
@justdana23 9 месяцев назад
Enjoyed listening to Kara & Nate! If you guys are curious about traveling van life with kids check out the Travel Beans who are traveling with a 4 month old!
@DracoMalfoy994
@DracoMalfoy994 8 месяцев назад
I love watching Kara and Nate’s vids there the best!,
@rai8889
@rai8889 10 месяцев назад
It’s time we normalize women not wanting children. This shouldn’t be a shameful thing.
@jessiewhitman8688
@jessiewhitman8688 10 месяцев назад
I'm getting a vibe that made Abby uncomfortable.. I never wanted kids.. I don't like kids... But when I had mine it was the best thing ever... Still don't like other peoples kids, but I love mine to pieces.
@faile66
@faile66 10 месяцев назад
This! I never liked kids and still don't. But i love my own, would kill for them, and don't regret a sigle one, even when times are tough
@jessiewhitman8688
@jessiewhitman8688 9 месяцев назад
@@faile66 Exactly!!
@rachelcooper408
@rachelcooper408 6 месяцев назад
I admire this so much and completely hope other people respect your decision. I have one child and was so annoyed by people saying "when is your next one?" when I totally did not desire to have another child. She's 20 now and I still don't regret it only being her.
@shelibecksilveria7825
@shelibecksilveria7825 8 месяцев назад
Kara and Nate are such awesome people❤
@juliej5917
@juliej5917 9 месяцев назад
I think FINALLY people are being more supportive to women/ couples that don’t want children. My son is engaged, and my future daughter-in-law finds herself with breast cancer and needing a hysterectomy. My daughter doesn’t want children. Sometimes the universe makes the choice for us, and other times we may get a say. They used to call unmarried women “old maids,” or BARREN if she never got pregnant, never taking into consideration what is going on with the man.
@twothousandandchew
@twothousandandchew 7 месяцев назад
how about we do not push people who do not want kids to be mothers and fathers… people who do that clearly don’t understand what it’s like to have parents that didn’t want to be parents and never learned how to be parent like. people forget that children literally are going to grow to be their own people not just an extension of their parent
@twothousandandchew
@twothousandandchew 7 месяцев назад
i never had parents i simply had a guardian and that guardian had a leech of a sperm donor. 💀 like family dinner all together at a table? who’s she never met her you can’t make people want a family they have to have that desire within their soul
@lorengjr
@lorengjr 8 месяцев назад
Love this, found myself in this state of life as well
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