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Deck Job: Replacing Wood with Composite 

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Pretty standard deck job. Removed the old pressure treated 2x6 decking, added support for the "picture-framed" border, installed pressure blocking to stiffen things up, cut new stair stringers, and installed the new decking. A nice upgrade.

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@edwilson6366
@edwilson6366 11 месяцев назад
It's a pleasure to watch a man work that knows what he's doing and is not trying to rip off somebody.
@dannythervguy
@dannythervguy 2 года назад
Great 👍 job, only thing I would do differently is add some waterproof membrane on the tops of the joists and flat boards.
@majorkursk780
@majorkursk780 Год назад
I agree, adding the membrane would be well worth the effort, being that this was a major overhaul project.
@myalfie
@myalfie Год назад
That what I was thinking 🤔
@craftman5632
@craftman5632 2 года назад
Nice work you're a fast worker I would have saved that lumber for another project.
@D-NICE33
@D-NICE33 2 года назад
Should have hit those steps with some fascia boards. otherwise, very good job!
@MichaelJ674
@MichaelJ674 5 месяцев назад
Joist tape!! If you’re going to install decking that has a 25 year warranty, you’ve got to protect the framing underneath, especially now that you have hundreds of holes from the old nails that were removed. The nail holes allow water to bypass the pressure treatment right into the heart of the joists. Butyl deck tape (Spax, Trex, Reeplar, Felizshop, etc.) helps your framing last as long as your decking. It also promotes sealing around new fasteners (just don’t overdrive into the concealed fastener clips). It’s also best to install the additional framing for the “picture frame” boards vertically with at least a 1/4” space between joists so you can tape the tops and promote drainage in between. Hope this helps you DIYers out there build a better deck that will last a good long time.
@sssendas
@sssendas 4 месяца назад
thanks
@FXAllThingsFun
@FXAllThingsFun 3 месяца назад
thanks for the tips!
@30guarino
@30guarino Месяц назад
So the picture frame border you're saying to double up on the 2x10 like he did in the middle of the deck? .....I definitely agree with tape
@javirodify
@javirodify 2 года назад
I don't see what is the purpose of showing this video... you don't give any tips, like what screws did you use, how did you insert them.
@aljay2955
@aljay2955 Месяц назад
I dismantled my 25 year old 16' x 25' wood deck and believe me it is not as easy as he makes it look. Mine was screwed down and I "crab walked" two crowbars to pop the boards out. Some split and some were harder than others. I couldn't believe what accumulated under the deck. Never again. I'll just clean the concrete and use it as a patio and make a composite landing 3' x 6' with one step coming off my sunroom and call it a day.
@dannymatts1883
@dannymatts1883 2 года назад
Frame it 12in on center for non wood products boys. Been puttn em in since they came out w it.
@randygreen007
@randygreen007 2 года назад
Even more satisfying at 2X speed.
@zigzag2211
@zigzag2211 2 года назад
Looks beautiful!I had my 12 x 16 deck redone about 10 years ago with Azek. I was so tired of cleaning and re-staining every 3 years. I also replace all of the railings with white painted aluminum so that I can pressure wash each spring without blowing all the paint off. I asked the contractor to use the Azek Side Loc tool when fastening the decking so that all the screws are invisible. That was a good choice in my opinion because screw holes tend to fill up with dirt and look like black dots. They also ran rubber strips along the top of the joists, wider than the joists, to protect top of the joists from rot. It was a big investment but it has paid off in time and effort for me. It has held up well and still looks beautiful.
@joe1071
@joe1071 Год назад
Built a big wood deck 8 years ago. After a couple years of re-staining I learned a lot. Moved and the new house has a deck size we like, bones are good but surface and railings need replacing. After my maintenance experience with the wood deck, the only option this time is composite. I’m excited for spring so I can lay the new decking down!
@ekurdesov
@ekurdesov Год назад
@@joe1071 I got sick of staining too so built a clear roof over it :) that works too lol but I agree, next time I build one the walking boards will be composite 100% I built mine maybe 10 years ago and it has cider boards on finish. they last worse than treated wood ones I think. the railing posts surprisingly are in great shape. railing cider boards after 10 years of summer heat and cold minnesotan winters was crunchy to break by hand
@Pepe-dq2ib
@Pepe-dq2ib 2 года назад
Hmmm love the smell and feel of scorching plastic decking. Who needs ceder.
@davidshettlesworth1442
@davidshettlesworth1442 Год назад
Thanks for a great video. I learned a lot. Carry On Sir.
@swamp5050
@swamp5050 2 года назад
Dude you're a beast but where are your knee pads? Beautiful workmanship..
@MrSki-tyvm
@MrSki-tyvm 21 день назад
No flashing tape on flat areas where picture framing joints are. That's horrible, any standing water on pressure treated wood will rot after time. This is why I flash tape all top sides of everything. I have had a deck last over 20 years to this date with absolutely no rotting.
@HeavyJuicedPicks
@HeavyJuicedPicks Год назад
how was your knee caps after this job good video invest in some knee protection next time lol
@Stan_in_Shelton_WA
@Stan_in_Shelton_WA Год назад
That looks like more than a 12 inch span. I thought the composite materials required a 12" spacing of joists.
@samu3813
@samu3813 3 месяца назад
Some do, but I don't think this work included redoing the joist. He just reused what was there and braced them the best he could. When a customer doesn't want to pay for additional things, the co tractor can either refuse the job on principle or do the best they can for the price. D
@littleflower23
@littleflower23 2 года назад
Nice job!
@timallison8560
@timallison8560 Год назад
should have waterproofed the wooden support beams while you had the boards off.
@scottmcbride2237
@scottmcbride2237 4 месяца назад
A lot of work but done incorrectly. People looking to do this please watch other videos so you dont make the same mistakes. Good luck to this man and his new deck.
@jimbob4456
@jimbob4456 2 года назад
The only thing I would say is you should really wear knee pads. Otherwise incredible work.
@jacobtovarvallecastelan3634
@jacobtovarvallecastelan3634 2 года назад
Good job. Looks great 👍 thanks for show us
@First-Adhesive-Technologies
How old is this deck? I didn't see any rot on the joist and no joist tape added on it to prevent any rot.
@JR-xj2vr
@JR-xj2vr 2 года назад
So so so…. I am in the process of doing this as we speak….400 sq feet bi level. Using Wolf PVC. Lesson learned 1…..retro fitting a mix of old and new joists will test your patience’s. Why….the old wood probably shrunk about a quarter inch over time. A 1/4 inch here and there will make you crazy. Lesson Learned 2…..You MUST go from 16” OC to no more than 12” OC…so you are net adding joists. Lesson Learned 3……over engineer it….I went from nails to all screws. Lesson Learned 4. Your stair stringers also need to go 12” OC or less….and buy precut stringers from HD or Lowes. PVC isn’t cheap, nor extra wood for joists and whatever. Supplies(wood screws, brackets, cortex screws, joist tape)…I’m in for about 1,500$ for supplies alone. Aall in right now about 10k….yes….10k$….and I am doing all the work myself.
@vladseva
@vladseva 2 года назад
I am starting my process on a similar size deck 1) What is OC? 2) why did not you want to do composite? 3) are you doing rectangular pvc deck boards? I have WOLF serenity as a sample in teakwood. 5) are you replacing railing for deck? sorry for many questions?
@JR-xj2vr
@JR-xj2vr 2 года назад
@@vladseva OC= On Center….you have to modify the distance between the joist to 10-12”. This way your floor will be rock solid.
@JR-xj2vr
@JR-xj2vr 2 года назад
@@vladseva I had a friend who did pvc about 5 years ago and his deck has held up nicely…..mind you, minimal usage, no kids, etc….and that’s the reason I went with Wolf.
@JR-xj2vr
@JR-xj2vr 2 года назад
@@vladseva I am replacing the railing. Looking like I am going to use a vertical Cable type railing for more of an open and bigger view. Going to cost this Putin the next 2 weeks.
@JR-xj2vr
@JR-xj2vr 2 года назад
@@vladseva one more thing. This material gets really hot when exposed to direct sun…..so much so that you can’t walk on it bare foot when outdoor temp is 90 degrees and direct Sun.
@kevinseversonandhisvizslas8287
Why are you using nails and not screws on the framing?
@busterbrown1686
@busterbrown1686 4 месяца назад
I'm so glad i was smart and spent the extra money and bought Eon ( all plastic top of the line) back in 2003. A 20 footer was $33, today top of the line is about $115 a board. it's still the only way to go. Pressure washing and staining every 2 years sucks and end up costing more..I know a few people replacing their decking and the redo is very exspensive
@cz1always608
@cz1always608 6 месяцев назад
Nice you were able to leave it 16’’ and not move the joist to 12’’ ????
@gunsnsails
@gunsnsails 2 года назад
Looks really nice! This video popped up in my feed because of the RU-vid algorith and my viewing of other similar videos. I am looking to do the same with my decks and need some tutorials and such. One question I have for you is about the placement of the field boards. One guy says not to line up the ends of the boards (recommended 24" offset) and then I see many professionals doing like what you did with the ends all lining up on the same joist. Is there a right or wrong to either methods?
@billkea7224
@billkea7224 2 года назад
He had a double joist where they all lined up.
@rmcguire-pg6io
@rmcguire-pg6io Год назад
It is a matter of which looks better to the owner.
@bigfootswatching9986
@bigfootswatching9986 2 года назад
This has to be the fastest guy working ! look at them speed!
@ryanoconnell4646
@ryanoconnell4646 7 месяцев назад
Joist Tape
@gwp4eva
@gwp4eva 6 месяцев назад
nicely done! you should use joist tape next time, it’ll stop water from getting into all the old nail holes and rotting out the wood another thing i did when i redid my deck was to dig under the rim joist that was in contact with the ground so there was a 3-4” gap then added about 2” of gravel. i know PT lumber is rated for ground contact, but all that wet soil will rot it out eventually
@billwong7420
@billwong7420 2 года назад
Very impressive, but I hate to tell you that deck will not last. Will all the nail holes that you pull out from deck joist, you forgot to put in a roof rubberize table at least the width of the joist before you install tree decking. Water will sipped i the joist old nail holes and side of the joist. I hope you don’t get a call back to replace all the joist again. Good luck.
@FerociousPancake888
@FerociousPancake888 4 месяца назад
I’m doing this exact job to my deck this summer and the joists are fine so I’m keeping them. What do I need to put on my joists so they stay healthy for a long time? The decking is nailed into the joists just like the one in the video.
@strjourneys7919
@strjourneys7919 4 месяца назад
You don't sound like you "hated" to say that...if anything you sound very eager to come off as a smart ass😂
@sav5477
@sav5477 Месяц назад
I did the same type of job on my deck 20yrs ago with composite. No tape on the joists. Deck still there and looks beautiful. 😮
@markharmon6942
@markharmon6942 Месяц назад
Don't be a douche.
@resabape
@resabape 2 года назад
You don't get paid by the hour, obviously.
@thomasjgour4678
@thomasjgour4678 5 месяцев назад
Trex decking is deadly if you walk on it when snow or ice is on it.
@ftnirish74
@ftnirish74 Год назад
Great video. Just started demo on mine. Did you run into any issues with reusing the holes in the joists from the nails you pulled? If so, how did you combat?
@timdafler3223
@timdafler3223 2 года назад
To much plastic in the world, I'll stay with wood
@jamesclark7248
@jamesclark7248 2 года назад
Any reason why you didn't use weather shield along the top edge of the framing?
@bernardinobotellolopez4257
@bernardinobotellolopez4257 2 года назад
Nice floor ugly handrail
@richardb7093
@richardb7093 2 года назад
Another how to where all the joists were level and even..Lucky you! Bet majority of redoes arent as lucky!
@panjrobarobaipanj7259
@panjrobarobaipanj7259 2 года назад
Great video, Keep it up 👍Subscribed and Like 👍 #7 from me
@motorheadbanger90
@motorheadbanger90 Год назад
How much does replacing old wood from an old deck with these trex board normally cost? average wise.
@motorheadbanger90
@motorheadbanger90 Год назад
@@tailgatecarpenter26 What do you mean "Seriously?" I got two quotes , and not pursuing a third. If you have nothing helpful to offer someone then don't reply to their comment. I don't need to deal with patronizing assholes on the internet like you.
@deonjackson193
@deonjackson193 3 месяца назад
I'm at $1400 in materials (trex enhanced natural @16 ft $44 a board).
@robh063
@robh063 Год назад
a $10K upgrade that adds 2K in value to your home
@robh063
@robh063 Год назад
@@tailgatecarpenter26 If anyone ever spends the $8K difference in stain and sandpaper they need their head examined!
@samu3813
@samu3813 3 месяца назад
Not true! I tried to sell a home once that had a rotted out deck. The buyer tried to negotiate a 30k discount, based on contractor quotes for a new deck. Excluding my labor, I redid the deck for south of 10k and sold the house as offered.
@robh063
@robh063 3 месяца назад
@@samu3813 $30k quotes for a new deck? Where was this at and what was it made out of Gold?
@mocheeks709
@mocheeks709 2 года назад
How about all the rotten stringers that's what I have a problem with
@Booster1310
@Booster1310 2 года назад
We replaced our redwood deck with Timber Tech composite @ 12 years ago. With an occasional wash it still looks as good as the day it was installed ... and it looked great then. Only drawback we have found is that it can be a little slippery when wet.
@miltonturner2977
@miltonturner2977 2 года назад
Find a UV stable clear coat that will last, mix in some fine grit sand, roll it on. Keep mixture stirred up or the sand will settle...
@patmason7276
@patmason7276 2 года назад
Haven't found any composite that holds up to the hash climate of the coastal areas.
@WW3_Soon
@WW3_Soon 3 месяца назад
harsh not hash
@barrymarson9658
@barrymarson9658 22 дня назад
No joist tape, flashing, ir water proofing. You just wasted your time
@Boja23
@Boja23 4 месяца назад
After spending the day in ER with my wife after being hit by a drunk driver, I realized a good majority of us will be victims of gravity. No one ever thinks that, as they toil away. Just reminded me when you "thanked" gravity for knocking the camera over. Thanks for the vid. Building a dock with composite starting today, and one day, replacing all my decking with composite.
@TheLayla33
@TheLayla33 Месяц назад
Nice job! What material is the beam of the new deck?
@birdlegs846
@birdlegs846 4 месяца назад
No matter what sealent or paint Ive used wood rots at a alarming pace, deck faces the north and in the shade all day and often stays damp. I want to build a deck with composit. At 2:57 why nail??? Square drive deck screws and a nice milwaukee or makita cordless screw gun would be easier and maybe faster. Deck turned out nice.👍
@MC-px9eq
@MC-px9eq 9 месяцев назад
Thinking about doing this to my deck. My only question, wouldn't the joists have to be 12 inches apart in order to use composite? I was told it would otherwise start sagging shortly after we walk on it.
@mrteausaable
@mrteausaable 10 месяцев назад
Can you tell me about how much you spend on this size of deck? I plan to budget for my deck DIY and where do you get this board from?
@erickjason9092
@erickjason9092 2 года назад
NO knee pads?!?!?! You must got some strong ass knees
@Gomoboo
@Gomoboo 10 месяцев назад
The composite decking material looks great. However, I have seen carpenters protecting the deck foundation with butyl tape and/or other water protection coverings so that the structural lumber doesn't wetrot like the wood decking.
@gabedelgadillo6811
@gabedelgadillo6811 2 года назад
looks great but damn you must be rich! We don't waist wood from where I'm from. That was good wood for another project.
@240LTS
@240LTS 2 года назад
... 100% agree!!! .
@WW3_Soon
@WW3_Soon 3 месяца назад
waste not waist
@raymondatwood5266
@raymondatwood5266 2 года назад
Plastic crap period , looks like crap in 4 years ,you can never match it .redwood is still the best choice if built correctly it will last 40 years new uv stains require less maintenance
@lafos4914
@lafos4914 2 года назад
fascinating! loved your vid style - sped up, key captions when appropriate. good job!!
@chrisbadger4089
@chrisbadger4089 Год назад
We spend all that time watching you rip out boards, just to skip halfway into the composite wood install.
@billkea7224
@billkea7224 2 года назад
The 2x6s you removed are better than what you can buy today. You did an excellent job. A shame they left the crappy old railings.
@Boss-vd8vt
@Boss-vd8vt 2 года назад
YOU CAN PAY THE EXTRA $5000 THEN!
@justlooking4771
@justlooking4771 Год назад
Like laying floor vinyl, do you have to rip certain end boards to fit? Aww…never mind. I just saw where you cut the ends even and made a solid border. Nice!
@glendavis1266
@glendavis1266 Год назад
A little voice might be helpful! I wished I worked that fast.
@fabdabz7104
@fabdabz7104 Год назад
Nice job, looks great. I don't recall you mentioning, but what color(s) did you use? I'm looking into doing mine.
@sethpotter9592
@sethpotter9592 5 месяцев назад
Power tools are our friend. A nailer really speeds things up. Also, hire a haul away vendor. Where I live, he will do all the hard work of loading the container for a nominal fee.
@breeness56
@breeness56 2 года назад
It's so perfect, I teared up at it's beauty. Um which store might I find a man that can help me do carpentry in GA? 🥰🤣🤣
@gregjones3660
@gregjones3660 2 года назад
Clean...
@divebarsnguitars7074
@divebarsnguitars7074 Год назад
You skipped to half way on the new decking. Can’t even see how you started it
@johncoleman9261
@johncoleman9261 2 года назад
I looks great ,but for an amateur like me it would be nice just to see some of the work at normal speed so you get an idea how to do it exactly, thanks
@240LTS
@240LTS 2 года назад
Play it is slow motion, Speed- .25. .
@kennp9184
@kennp9184 4 месяца назад
Everyone that I see who is redoing their deck Do Not Wear Need Pads.
@Agent77X
@Agent77X Год назад
You cannot beat the those composite deck boards!😮 Glad I had them installed 5 years ago and went to big box store, the 16’ were around 3X the cost now! Ouch!
@greenlantern1174
@greenlantern1174 2 года назад
Must have cost about $100,000.
@ricecrash5225
@ricecrash5225 2 месяца назад
Two words…..Joist Tape. Otherwise nice work.
@dustbat
@dustbat 2 года назад
Never use a wrap material. This stuff grows like mad. I had spaces up to half inch that are now closed tight. Mine failed and was replaced twice by company. Even cracked and broken it is better than wood.
@concretelandscape
@concretelandscape Год назад
Can’t See what you’re doing🥲
@phoenix21studios
@phoenix21studios 2 года назад
you should use stainless steel screws.
@TF_TV
@TF_TV Год назад
There's actually a specific screw for this type of material. It has two different tread patterns on it.
@Slyder695
@Slyder695 Год назад
If at all possible never butt composite
@kmnmalaska
@kmnmalaska 2 года назад
Cutting stair stringers on the ground? You're working uphill.
@BasementEngineer
@BasementEngineer 2 года назад
Built a 12' x 16' in-ground deck between swimming pool and the sliding doors, using synthetic planks made of cedar saw dust and polyethylene. This provided a level no-step walk between door and pool; very nice indeed. These planks were double sided, allowing them to be turned over if one surface were damaged, and I spaced the support joists at 12" centres. This deck was rock-solid! The surface finish was patterned as you might expect from seasoned wood, providing an anti-slip surface when wet. With an occasional cleaning every couple of years with soap solution and scrub broom, the deck looked as good as new when we sold the house 10 years later.
@BasementEngineer
@BasementEngineer 2 года назад
I really liked the feature of holding down these planks. The clamp blocks fitted between the planks, thus spacing them appropriately while holding them down. Clever and very tidy looking. A long Robertson screw driver bit in the electric hand drill made short work of fastening the decking.
@spsproductions2614
@spsproductions2614 3 года назад
wow i wish i could redo a deck in 12 minutes
@zzzbrianxxx
@zzzbrianxxx Год назад
I'm sure this is a dumb question, but why isn't it an issue that the joists had nail holes from the original deck boards?
@moodberry
@moodberry 2 года назад
At 8:18 in the video you put a final piece in. Did you have to cut it lengthwise to make it fit in that space?
@xuedoosterman
@xuedoosterman 2 месяца назад
They always twist and sag
@greenfrog8871
@greenfrog8871 4 месяца назад
joist tape... ...cheap and great
@ianashdown
@ianashdown 2 года назад
On a sunny day is the deck hot underfoot?
@Justicewarrior908
@Justicewarrior908 2 года назад
My toxic trait is that I think I can do this
@patrickradcliffe3837
@patrickradcliffe3837 2 года назад
Just finished a similar job out at Lake Cushman client was very happy with the finished product.
@odessa3186
@odessa3186 2 года назад
This was on 16” centers?
@rainmaker3700
@rainmaker3700 2 года назад
Probably sagging now, 12" OC max for composite decking.
@danbasta3677
@danbasta3677 2 года назад
This is just me. Think that if I were dismantling that deck, I would start first removing those planks by the house first, then working my way out to the ending. This give you a more secure working environment and your more prone to not fall or get hurt or have a mishap. Maybe I'm wrong on this.
@supervisor404atlanta3
@supervisor404atlanta3 Год назад
Where are you located?
@mattb2389
@mattb2389 2 года назад
What was the sledge hammer for when putting the new boards down?
@bridesnyc
@bridesnyc Год назад
Amazing..all by himself ! great job
@alecarpinteiro3347
@alecarpinteiro3347 Год назад
👏👏👏👏👏👍🇧🇷🇧🇷
@jazzlouise
@jazzlouise 3 месяца назад
That railing has to go.
@BOPilot5517
@BOPilot5517 2 года назад
What brand composite decking is it?
@skimanfree1073
@skimanfree1073 2 года назад
I would hire him by the hour
@paulmoffat9306
@paulmoffat9306 2 года назад
One thing to add: get ready to shell out $40+ per 12 foot length of 1x6 (depending on brand). And they are not a stiff as dimensional lumber - it bends as you walk over them.
@dustbat
@dustbat 2 года назад
It can also be damaged easy during shipment.
@chrisnelson6991
@chrisnelson6991 2 года назад
Joists should be 12" on center. This should make it so there is no flex as you walk on them.
@jayralston2305
@jayralston2305 Год назад
@@chrisnelson6991 that's a fact I put my joists on 12' center on all composite material but going over a old deck you better check the existing joists they are probably not PTF if its that old , you might be tearing it apart in a couple of years because of
@HybridKoy
@HybridKoy 2 года назад
Is the composite slippery when wet?
@zbabyg6998
@zbabyg6998 2 года назад
Where did you dispose of the PT wood?
@observergoldstein3709
@observergoldstein3709 2 года назад
A lot of decks Nationwide need that done
@jimbob4456
@jimbob4456 2 года назад
Man! You work fast. 🤓
@BryanBarcelo
@BryanBarcelo 2 года назад
The Dutch angle, also known as Dutch tilt, canted angle, or oblique angle, is a type of camera shot which involves setting the camera at an angle The primary use of a Dutch angle is to cause a sense of unease or disorientation for the viewer.
@danstaab7961
@danstaab7961 2 года назад
Were the joists of old deck 16 oc?
@jimbob4456
@jimbob4456 2 года назад
Wow!!!
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